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1. 07:42 AM - Re: [ Jim Goolsby ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Yakjock)
2. 07:45 AM - Re: safety thing. (RANDAIRETV@aol.com)
3. 07:53 AM - ASI (Carl W.Hays Enterprises)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: VAC Tico (RANDAIRETV@aol.com)
5. 02:36 PM - Re: Chip detector - Aluminium (Ernie)
6. 02:40 PM - Re: [ Craig Payne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Ernie)
7. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: VAC Tico (Ernie)
8. 03:05 PM - F-16 Crash (Ernie)
9. 03:39 PM - Re: Chip detector - Aluminium (Jim Duffy)
10. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: VAC Tico (Schlafly Fred)
11. 04:40 PM - Re: Chip detector - Aluminium (jay reiter)
12. 07:07 PM - Formation Flying Northeast Region Feb 27-29th (Yak52w@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: [ Jim Goolsby ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
Pappy's been smokin some of that Florida stuff again!
Hal Morley
CJ-6M3E "8"
CJ-6M3E "Hana Ho!"
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no
good evidence either way."
--Bertrand Russell
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| Subject: | Re: safety thing. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: RANDAIRETV@aol.com
EWOK HERE,
SOME OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME AND SOME DON'T.
Name is Randy Hatchell of Timmonsville SC. Resurrected TWO
CJ-6's back in 1992-93. Both painted in Corsair colors as I am a
US NAVY man.( I also have a 1942 NA SNJ-5 )
Jim Plumlee owns one and I still own the other...
I am new to the list but would like to comment on what I just read..
If one of you guys took off from a maint. facility and didn't check
your aircraft over REALLY GOOD shame on you ... It is your life
in that seat and not the mechanics..!!!! Maybe he was unfamiliar with
that type of pin. Who knows... As an A&P and An IA I still get the pilots
to check behind my work... We all overlook things for all kinds of reasons..
Keep in mind It is " ULTIMATELY up to US..." (the PILOTS).. EWOK
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W.Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net>
Bryan,
I have the ASI's in stock. I think I may have one that has been
yellow-tagged over here.
Cheers,
Jill
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--> Yak-List message posted by: RANDAIRETV@aol.com
Hey Guys,
As a past 10 yr. + member of the VAC . I echo
my ole friends comments.. I quit the VAC awhile ago
because of the politics and only they worring about monies
to build the museum... They will reluctantly let you fly
but only at your EXPENSE ... It can be fun only if you
want to gather with your friends... EWOK
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| Subject: | Re: Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
The lead comes from the fuel, we run low lead gas not Un-leaded.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> OK, so next question, where does the lead come from? Have you guys
> (Bruce & Ernie) had this before as well?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
> --> <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
>
> I think they are probably lead.
>
> Bruce Campbell
> Yak52 n82623
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> To: "Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > For the engine pros: My yak's chip detector came on a couple days
> > ago. After pulling filters etc., found some "dust" in oil and a couple
>
> > tiny round particles of metal. These could easily be squashed by hand
>
> > using flat screwdriver on spanner - metal was therefore soft
> > (aluminium). Changed oil, cleaned all filters, ran engine on ground
> > for 1/2 hour, cleaned and checked again, then flew. So far so good.
> > Aircraft just had annual.
> >
> > Any ideas where aluminium could come from??
> > Could the tiny balls be formed by current pasing through ali dust on
> > chip detector?
> >
> > Regards
> > Jorgen
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [ Craig Payne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
You have way to much free time!
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Email List Photo Shares" <pictures@matronics.com>
Subject: Yak-List: [ Craig Payne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares
<pictures@matronics.com>
>
>
> A new Email List Photo Share is available:
>
> Poster: Craig Payne <cpayne@joimail.com>
>
>
> Subject: Enhanced image of flow field
>
>
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/cpayne@joimail.com.02.04.2004/index.html
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>
> o Main Photo Share Index
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> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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> o Submitting a Photo Share
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> If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
You cannot fly or get fuel if you are not a member, its a $100.00 bucks at
the door. You are assigned a rank of Kernel (mispelled intentionally) and a
lame newsletter every so often. I may not do it again this year.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: VAC Tico
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
>
>
> Based on my experience, if you are not a member they treat you as a second
> class citizen (at best)... They apparently do not value your willingness
to
> support their Airshow by taking the time and money for their cause,
instead,
> they feel that flying in their airshow is a great privilege and they are
> doing you a favor letting you fly in it. Granted, this was a sorry
> experience I encountered a couple of years ago - I hope they have
> improved... reading Bill Walker's post on this, I see that they haven't
> improved at all. Needless to say, I am not a VAC member.
>
> Sam Sax
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Walker
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: VAC Tico
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill Walker" <bwalker11@charter.net>
>
>
> Do I have
> > to be a VAC member to participate?
> >
> Craig, and others,
> I don't think so but I've put in a call to make sure - you might want to
> contact Mike McCann 321 751 4494 for more info. In the past, the airshow
> was free to members - others had to pay and it ended up being about the
same
> as the cost of membership. I'm sure formation prctice would be like other
> airshows - birds of a feather...
>
> Bill Walker
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Hey guys and gals, just got back from the CJAA annual convention at Eglin AFB today,
ran into good ole Liz Rizzo, both she and I got to fly the F-16 SIM last
night for a few hours, I personally splashed 3 Mig 21's with Guns :) Also the
nice F-16 Test Pilot that let me fly the SIM also gave me the straight skinny
on what happened during the F-16 crash thats people have been rumoring about
all week, since the guy is his friend.
Firstly the pics are real, secondly he did not get transfered to the Pentagon,
he is now flying a solo F-16 demo out of Nellis AFB. Also the cause was due to
a x-wind taking him over show center and towards the crowd, while trying to correct
for this while inverted he didnt hold enough forward stick causing him
to lose altitude over the top.
Had a blast, found out how the Eagle and Viper drivers party, now know how to point
correctly in the O Club, drank way too much Gerimia Weed, learned how to
play CRUD and finaly got a call sign.
Ernie "Python" Martinez
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| Subject: | Re: Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Duffy" <jduffy@webpipe.net>
You guys are loosing me, as an aircraft mechanic both fixed wing and
helicopters for the past 40 years, I have never seen balls of lead form on
a chipdetector, ferrious metal and carbon yes but not lead. Ball of lead on
plugs and in cylinders yes but not in the oil. What am I missing. Jim-----
Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> The lead comes from the fuel, we run low lead gas not Un-leaded.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > OK, so next question, where does the lead come from? Have you guys
> > (Bruce & Ernie) had this before as well?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
> > --> <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
> >
> > I think they are probably lead.
> >
> > Bruce Campbell
> > Yak52 n82623
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> > To: "Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Chip detector - Aluminium
> >
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> > <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > For the engine pros: My yak's chip detector came on a couple days
> > > ago. After pulling filters etc., found some "dust" in oil and a couple
> >
> > > tiny round particles of metal. These could easily be squashed by hand
> >
> > > using flat screwdriver on spanner - metal was therefore soft
> > > (aluminium). Changed oil, cleaned all filters, ran engine on ground
> > > for 1/2 hour, cleaned and checked again, then flew. So far so good.
> > > Aircraft just had annual.
> > >
> > > Any ideas where aluminium could come from??
> > > Could the tiny balls be formed by current pasing through ali dust on
> > > chip detector?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jorgen
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ==
> > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Schlafly Fred" <fschlafly@sprynet.com>
Shame you guys had a bad experience with VAC. I have been a member for a
number of years and went through one of their FAST clinics some time back.
Was treated very well at the clinic even though they didn't know me. Also,
have always been treated first class at their annual show. They do take good
care of their members. Have you voiced your concerns with them?
Fred Schlafly YAK-52
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: VAC Tico
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> You cannot fly or get fuel if you are not a member, its a $100.00 bucks at
> the door. You are assigned a rank of Kernel (mispelled intentionally) and
a
> lame newsletter every so often. I may not do it again this year.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: VAC Tico
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
> >
> >
> > Based on my experience, if you are not a member they treat you as a
second
> > class citizen (at best)... They apparently do not value your
willingness
> to
> > support their Airshow by taking the time and money for their cause,
> instead,
> > they feel that flying in their airshow is a great privilege and they are
> > doing you a favor letting you fly in it. Granted, this was a sorry
> > experience I encountered a couple of years ago - I hope they have
> > improved... reading Bill Walker's post on this, I see that they haven't
> > improved at all. Needless to say, I am not a VAC member.
> >
> > Sam Sax
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Walker
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: VAC Tico
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill Walker" <bwalker11@charter.net>
> >
> >
> > Do I have
> > > to be a VAC member to participate?
> > >
> > Craig, and others,
> > I don't think so but I've put in a call to make sure - you might want to
> > contact Mike McCann 321 751 4494 for more info. In the past, the
airshow
> > was free to members - others had to pay and it ended up being about the
> same
> > as the cost of membership. I'm sure formation prctice would be like
other
> > airshows - birds of a feather...
> >
> > Bill Walker
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Chip detector - Aluminium |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
Jim I think you are not to lost. The only way to find what the material is,
is oil analysis. If the problem recurs Jorgen should send out an oil sample
for analysis.
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| Subject: | Formation Flying Northeast Region Feb 27-29th |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Yak52w@aol.com
The Northeast Region of Redstar Pilots is planning a formation clinic and Fly
in at Flying W Airport (N14) in Lumberton, NJ on Feb. 27-28-29.
Dear Fellow Formation Pilot:
For several months the local group of REDSTAR pilots in Southern New Jersey
have been discussing an informal Formation Training Clinic and Formation
practice for February 2004. With the effort of a small core group we have scheduled
the first of what may evolve into many events to be held at Flying W (N14) in
Lumberton, NJ. Your participation is invited.
Tentative Schedule:
Friday 27th Registration & Hotel Check-in w/ Afternoon Formation
Flying
Sat 28th 0630 Briefing first flight w/ 07:30 takeoff w/
several 2-=BD hr flight & debrief
Sunday 29th Same Schedule (for those who are still standing
after Sat night)
The aggressive schedule enclosed is dependent on the weather and the
experience level of the attendees. Several types of sorties will be arranged based
on
the number of pilots, GIBs, and the number of qualified instructors who
attend. Our objective is to safely have some fun while maintaining or further
developing our formation flying skills. We all need a good workout after this
winters weather!
Please contact me prior to your arrival so that we may better organize the
format and flights.
To effectively plan the weekend your early registration is appreciated.
We may have to limit the number of new Trainee participants based on the
number of qualified instructors. Also, we would like everyone to attend the
Formation Clinic Training Lecture before flying with the group.
If you can contact a qualified formation instructor and encourage his
participation it would be a big help to the success of the weekend. Let me know
if
someone in your area should be sent this email.
To Pre-register, ask a question or volunteer to help Tim Stevens may be
reached several ways:
Most effectively by email at yak52w@aol.com
Days 856-222-1000 x103 Evenings 856-753-4030 Fax 856-222-9855
Schedule or Operations Questions call the EVENT ORGANIZER Marty Sheehan
856-979-4440 or email Marty at martinsh@aol.com
Please make separate Flying W Hotel Reservations directly at 609-267-7673.
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