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1. 01:15 AM - DOSAAF Yak 52 Pilot Operation Handbook in ENGLISH ready to ship in USA!!!!! CJ6 owners should have also for safety!!! (Mark Schrick)
2. 06:55 AM - National Warbird Operator Conference (Tom Johnson)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: F-16 Crash (gpa)
4. 09:47 AM - Stormscope v. in flight weather (Barry Hancock)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Stormscope v. in flight weather (Ernie)
6. 02:00 PM - Re: Stormscope v. in flight weather (Jim Ivey)
7. 02:47 PM - Re: Stormscope v. in flight weather (Jim Ivey)
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Stormscope v. (cpayne@joimail.com)
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| Subject: | DOSAAF Yak 52 Pilot Operation Handbook in ENGLISH ready to |
ship in USA!!!!! CJ6 owners should have also for safety!!!
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
DEAR Yakers,
Mark Jefferies was kind enough to send me the first editions of the Russian
Pilots Operation Handbook for the Yak 52 on CD. It has many of the same views
you would have in the CJ6 also. The translation is in English and on a CD to
print out 110 pages in notebook form or to browse on the computer. Great color
and perfect pictures of the airspeed, rudder peddles and views from the
cockpit.
The CD Covers:
Formation
Acrobatics
Basic maintenance
Standard flight
Emergency maneuvers
Bailout
And many many more items.
YAK UK is selling for $80 USD and I have already paid for the over seas
shipping. I only ordered a few though.
I am selling them for what Mark Jefferies is asking for them ($80 USD) from
San Jose, Ca now. (Cheaper shipping and you get it in a few days)
Contact me off list if you wish to receive one of these CD's.
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
YAK DRIVER, Inc
Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW
Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!!
REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. SW Regional Coordinator
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email <mailto:schrick@pacbell.net> schrick@pacbell.net
Website <http://www.yakdriver.com/> www.YAKDRIVER.com
Mark Jefferies wrote:
Finally we have been able to complete the translated DOSAAF flight manual for
the YAK 52, its consists of 110 pages with color pictures and descriptions for
ever phase of flight from pre flight, circuits, aerobatics, formation flying
and instrument flying.
I have put some example pages on my web site showing the complete index.
http://www.yakuk.com/DOSAAF.HTM the page is about 500 kbs. The CD is in adobe
format.
It really is a "must have" document for any YAK pilot, you really will learn
something from it even the "advanced" owner will be intrigued as to how the
Russian military works in the mid 80's
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| Subject: | National Warbird Operator Conference |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
National Warbird Operator Conference
February 26 to 29, 2004
Ok City, OK.
Please email me directly if you are planning to attend.
If you are planning to attend and have not registered please do so: www.nwoc.homestead.com
Tom Johnson
tjohnson@cannonaviation.com
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "gpa" <catfsh4u@bellsouth.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "E R" <jogggles@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: F-16 Crash
> --> Yak-List message posted by: E R <jogggles@yahoo.com>
>
> Yes, Ernie, and you do recall that I set an Air Force record as the only
person to fly the F-16 Sim wearing an evening gown.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> Ernie <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie"
>
> Hey guys and gals, just got back from the CJAA annual convention at Eglin
AFB today, ran into good ole Liz Rizzo, both she and I got to fly the F-16
SIM last night for a few hours, I personally splashed 3 Mig 21's with Guns
:) Also the nice F-16 Test Pilot that let me fly the SIM also gave me the
straight skinny on what happened during the F-16 crash thats people have
been rumoring about all week, since the guy is his friend.
>
> Firstly the pics are real, secondly he did not get transfered to the
Pentagon, he is now flying a solo F-16 demo out of Nellis AFB. Also the
cause was due to a x-wind taking him over show center and towards the crowd,
while trying to correct for this while inverted he didnt hold enough forward
stick causing him to lose altitude over the top.
>
Indeed, that's what the groud crew video shows as well.
What I want to know is why he didn't pull it out of full burner on the
downside. The ground crew video shows him in
full burner over the top and on the downline, all the way until he punched
out. Is that how they do it in an F-16?
Greg A.
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| Subject: | Stormscope v. in flight weather |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Hi Gang,
I'm trying to gather information on which is better if you can only
have one. A storm scope or in-flight weather. Seems to me that if you
have in-flight WX capability the storm scope becomes a moot point.
Besides, I would rather have the decision making ability to fly around
weather than to be emboldened to fly through it (well, that's not my
nature anyway, but you get the idea).
It seems that the advantages of in-flight weather far outweigh the
advantages of a storm scope. BUT, I know there are those on these
lists that have far more experience with both these types than I do and
would like your input on the debate!
You can email me off-list, but I think this discussion might be
beneficial to more than just myself.
And, no, it's not for my CJ... :)
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Stormscope v. in flight weather |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I had a stormscope in my Spam Can, and its great if you're already in
weather. In flight weather is good cause it shows you precipitation. not
lightning info, so you can see the weather patterns and fly around the
stuff. In-flight weather however is usually about 5 to 15 minutes old, so
you cant rely on it for current conditions. Best is to have both, but if I
had to choose just one, I would opt for Nexrad only cause I would normally
not be up in the nasty stuff, but if you fly hard IFR the storm scope could
could keep you out of the really bad stuff. I guess it all depends on the
type of flying you intend to do.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Stormscope v. in flight weather
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm trying to gather information on which is better if you can only
> have one. A storm scope or in-flight weather. Seems to me that if you
> have in-flight WX capability the storm scope becomes a moot point.
> Besides, I would rather have the decision making ability to fly around
> weather than to be emboldened to fly through it (well, that's not my
> nature anyway, but you get the idea).
>
> It seems that the advantages of in-flight weather far outweigh the
> advantages of a storm scope. BUT, I know there are those on these
> lists that have far more experience with both these types than I do and
> would like your input on the debate!
>
> You can email me off-list, but I think this discussion might be
> beneficial to more than just myself.
>
> And, no, it's not for my CJ... :)
>
> Barry
>
>
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| Subject: | Stormscope v. in flight weather |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Barry:
You may well explore WxWorx. It seems to me to be the most up to date
weather out there and runs $49 per month. It's based on XM Radio satellites
and even has a version that tracks your path via GPS inputs.
http://www.wxworx.com/index.html
The WxWorx unit is a small portable device designed to send data to a
display like a tablet PC or laptop. XM is what Garmin is using in it's new
1000 series MFD/PFD system being installed in new Cessnas and similar.
Added benefit is full XM programming (including weather channel).
I flew with a friend who had Controlvision's Anywhere Weather last Tuesday.
It was okay but the Globalsat satellite phone and wires everywhere were a
bit much and the Nexrad display seemed clunky. It did, however, have METARS
and awos/asos reports built in and email and updates could be accomplished
in flight. It was his first try with the unit and there were some com port
problems.
http://www.controlvision.com
I personally fly with the Controlvision Anywhere Map with Bluetooth
interface (i.e. no wires anywhere) and use an iPaq 2215 for display. I also
have XM radio (Delphi Roady) piped into my stereo intercom. Were I to add
in-flight weather today it would be WxWorx.
Jim Ivey
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Barry Hancock
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:47 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com; commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Stormscope v. in flight weather
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm trying to gather information on which is better if you can only
> have one. A storm scope or in-flight weather. Seems to me
> that if you
> have in-flight WX capability the storm scope becomes a moot point.
> Besides, I would rather have the decision making ability to
> fly around
> weather than to be emboldened to fly through it (well, that's not my
> nature anyway, but you get the idea).
>
> It seems that the advantages of in-flight weather far outweigh the
> advantages of a storm scope. BUT, I know there are those on these
> lists that have far more experience with both these types
> than I do and
> would like your input on the debate!
>
> You can email me off-list, but I think this discussion might be
> beneficial to more than just myself.
>
> And, no, it's not for my CJ... :)
>
> Barry
>
>
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| Subject: | Stormscope v. in flight weather |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
I forgot to mention the display I would switch to as of today would be the
small E-Board unit from paperless cockpit. Here is the link:
http://www.paperlesscockpit.com/artpub/sprtart.cfm?objectID=1010&typeID=87
I loath wires in the cockpit and think a display should not be larger than
half a sheet of notebook paper. This unit fits the bill as it is a
completely wireless display utilizing a secured 802.11b wireless interface
to a tucked away laptop or tablet.
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com; commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Stormscope v. in flight weather
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> Barry:
>
> You may well explore WxWorx. It seems to me to be the most
> up to date weather out there and runs $49 per month. It's
> based on XM Radio satellites and even has a version that
> tracks your path via GPS inputs.
>
> http://www.wxworx.com/index.html
>
> The WxWorx unit is a small portable device designed to send
> data to a display like a tablet PC or laptop. XM is what
> Garmin is using in it's new 1000 series MFD/PFD system being
> installed in new Cessnas and similar. Added benefit is full
> XM programming (including weather channel).
>
> I flew with a friend who had Controlvision's Anywhere Weather
> last Tuesday. It was okay but the Globalsat satellite phone
> and wires everywhere were a bit much and the Nexrad display
> seemed clunky. It did, however, have METARS and awos/asos
> reports built in and email and updates could be accomplished
> in flight. It was his first try with the unit and there were
> some com port problems.
>
> http://www.controlvision.com
>
> I personally fly with the Controlvision Anywhere Map with
> Bluetooth interface (i.e. no wires anywhere) and use an iPaq
> 2215 for display. I also have XM radio (Delphi Roady) piped
> into my stereo intercom. Were I to add in-flight weather
> today it would be WxWorx.
>
> Jim Ivey
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > Barry Hancock
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:47 AM
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com; commander-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Stormscope v. in flight weather
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
> >
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I'm trying to gather information on which is better if you can only
> > have one. A storm scope or in-flight weather. Seems to me
> > that if you
> > have in-flight WX capability the storm scope becomes a moot point.
> > Besides, I would rather have the decision making ability to
> > fly around
> > weather than to be emboldened to fly through it (well,
> that's not my
> > nature anyway, but you get the idea).
> >
> > It seems that the advantages of in-flight weather far outweigh the
> > advantages of a storm scope. BUT, I know there are those on these
> > lists that have far more experience with both these types
> > than I do and
> > would like your input on the debate!
> >
> > You can email me off-list, but I think this discussion might be
> > beneficial to more than just myself.
> >
> > And, no, it's not for my CJ... :)
> >
> > Barry
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Stormscope v. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com
Barry,
Should not the real question be: what will be integrated
with the Stormscope or MFD? On Barry's budget, either the
Garmin/UPS coupled to the Stormscope or Avidyne EX500 type
of integrated flight management system would work well with
the main 'glass stack. On Craig's budget, we land and look
at the FBO's PC for free.
Craig Payne
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