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Thu 02/19/04


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:19 AM - Re: Sam's Comments Re:EGT-JPI (Rob Mortara)
     2. 06:05 AM - Re: SM2000-Turbine 18T (scott.huff@aivia.aero)
     3. 10:58 AM - Re: EGTs (Yakjock)
     4. 07:59 PM - Gear Indicator Light Bulb (D Zeman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:05 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com>
    Subject: Sam's Comments re:EGT-JPI
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com> I have a JPI and fuel flow on my 285 Housai and have no problem finding peak and runing 30 deg lean of peak. Tom : To lean the JPI start leaning from 1/4 to 1/3 on the mixture press the lean find button. Then slowly move the mixture up until the the JPI flashes with the 1st cyl to go lean. hold the lean button in and the jpi will tell you the egt of the 1st cly to lean(lean R).You then can if you like go appx 30-40 deg kean of peak fuel flow appx 13-14 GPH. Watch you cyl head temps the factory guage sucks. It will tell you 175 c but you may find #3 and #6 over 400 not agood place for them. If any one is interested I can foward a excel spred sheet which data logged doing this rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry Lewis Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sam's Comments re:EGT-JPI --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Lewis" <talew@comcast.net> My manual shows a cruise mixture adjustment on the front side of the carb for the CJ . This is accessed between the two bottom cylinders . You may need to adjust this needle to get the full mixture range. Terry Lewis From: "Tom Noonan" <noonan@berk.com> Subject: Yak-List: Sam's Comments re:EGT-JPI > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Noonan" <noonan@berk.com> > > I'm interested in Sam's comments regarding the JPI. I have a 9 cylinder JPI > in my CJ with 285 HP Housai. As far as an EGT is concerned it is almost > useless since the Housai engine cannot be leaned enough to get the basic > first setting on the JPI. No matter how much I lean my engine out I can't > get the revs to drop or the engine to run rough enough to set the reference > setting required. What am I( doing wrong? > > Tom Noonan > >


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    Time: 06:05:20 AM PST US
    From: scott.huff@aivia.aero
    Subject: RE: SM2000-Turbine 18T
    --> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero According to Mr. Goode's website, USD$460,000 to $600,000, depending on airframe and avionics options. Performance specs and pictures are also on the website: http://www.russianaeros.com/SM2000.htm It's a unique looking airplane and the performance numbers are promising. I would like to know what the useful load is. The empty weight is not published on the site. I wonder if it can REALLY haul 5 belly-buttons plus luggage WITH full tanks? Scott Huff Time: 07:52:07 AM PST US From: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: SM2000-Turbine 18T --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> How much?? Ernie -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Subject: Yak-List: SM2000-Turbine 18T --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> SM2000-Turbine 18T This is a totally new aircraft, using only the central fuselage of the 18T. 240-knot cruise; take off and land at max gross in 350 yards; climbs at 2,500ft per minute at max gross. Currently going through full international certification - if anyone wants more details - please contact us directly. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom richard.goode@russianaeros.com Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 10:58:59 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: EGTs
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Last November I attended the Advanced Engine Management seminar in Ada Oklahoma. John Deakins (writes for Avflash) and George Braly (President of GAMI) were two of the instructors, and I learned a ton about operating engines - including round engines. For starters, unless you have a JPI engine analyzer monitoring ALL cylinders you don't know squat about what's happening in those nine separate engines connected to a common crank. I recently put the JPI on my F33A Bonanza. After running for six years according to Continental's instructions (50 to 75 Rich of Peak (ROP) -- which happens to be about the worst place to run an engine -- I paid the price with a burned exhaust valve and a $1,200 lighter wallet. I have the GAMI injectors in (they provide an even fuel flow to all cylinders and allow smooth Lean of Peak (LOP) operation), and I now routinely run LOP at much lower CHTs, lower internal pressures, less fuel and a much cleaner engine. Even before we did the compression test I knew we had an exhaust valve problem in #3 because the EGT was running consistently above the other cylinders. One other advantage, doing a LOP mag test shows up weak plugs very quickly and saves a lot of ground time (and mechanic's cost). The old time round engine guys in the airlines and military had the LOP process down cold, frequently by experimenting at night when they could see the color of the exhaust and thereby set up their standards. What the Ada guys show is that we either want to be very ROP or at least 40 degrees LOP. Stay away from the middle ground and CHTs above 400. As Brian pointed out, the round engines benefit from the supercharger that mixes the fuel and gives the same charge to each cylinder so they can be run LOP smoothly. Like everyone else, the M14P on "8" is leaned automatically. However, the Performance Airflow injection carb on "Hana Ho" is leaned manually. When Doug and I flew it up to Omak, Washington from Deer Valley, AZ, we found that the carb was very effective at leaning -- easily stopping the engine -- but not very manageable until we get the JPI on it this coming month. Since it will readily burn 22 gph (we did average 173 kts TAS), leaning and the JPI will be important. So, a couple of thoughts. Read John Deakin's articles on engine management (I can give you a link if you need it). Invest in the JPI engine Analyzer so you know more about what's going on. Attend an Advanced Engine Management seminar and see for yourself what goes on in your engine (it's $900 or so, and a great investment). Below 5,000 feet run very ROP with heavy power use - full throttle gives you extra fuel for cooling and keeps the CHTs down. I have no claim to being an expert, and -- of course -- your mileage may vary. Hal Morley


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    Time: 07:59:13 PM PST US
    From: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Gear Indicator Light Bulb
    --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com> How many Yak drivers does it take to change a gear indicator light bulb? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 1 to move it to the Lighting section 2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 5 to flame the spell checkers 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp" 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty 7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs 4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too" 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs" 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. ~~~~~ Taken from a Russian motorcycle group and modified for relevance. D. Zeman __________________________________ http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools




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