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1. 04:12 AM - Re: Yak 52 Missing (Gus Fraser)
2. 07:39 AM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Dave Laird)
3. 11:41 AM - Help ... Australian Aviation Magazine back issue needed. (scott.huff@aivia.aero)
4. 12:06 PM - Re: Generator failure (Jorgen Nielsen)
5. 01:21 PM - South County ACM Training (ByronMFox@aol.com)
6. 01:57 PM - Re: Generator failure (Ernie)
7. 02:15 PM - Re: Generator failure (Jorgen Nielsen)
8. 03:10 PM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Brian Lloyd)
9. 04:56 PM - Re: South County ACM Training (YakL1@aol.com)
10. 05:21 PM - South County ACM Training....What a BLAST!!!! Hope to see more next time at ALL RED STAR !!!! (Mark Schrick)
11. 05:44 PM - Re: Generator failure (Walt Lannon)
12. 06:05 PM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Ernie)
13. 10:18 PM - Pacific Coast Avionics (Tom Johnson)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
There has been a case that I know of where one of the tank drains got
blocked. The design of the drains was changed in the mid eighties. What
happened as far as I recall was that the blockage lead to a vacuum collapse
of the center header tank. The tank did not rupture but the outcome was that
there was a very small header tank and fuel was just coming straight from
the main tanks.
If this happened to you then as the tanks get more empty then obviously the
chance of not being able to pull fuel due to aircraft movement is increased.
May of course not be your problem but I am just throwing it out there.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Coppersmith
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 Missing
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bryan Coppersmith <bryan@yaknz.com>
I have a weird problem with my Yak. Very smooth engine operates with no
problems at all power settings until fuel state reaches 15 litres each
side. Then I have an intermittent miss (about every 2 minutes. No
change in fuel pressure or any other parameters, just a quick cough
then smooth again.
Any ideas gratefully received...
Cheers
Bryan
________________
Bryan Coppersmith
Tel: 647 8649020
Fax: 647 8649087
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| Subject: | Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>> http://www.newark.com/product-details/text/CD121/59577.html
>>
>
> Perfect! I knew they existed but hadn't gone looking for a source
> yet. Thanks for the pointer.
>
>
You are most welcome...
Oh, and Brian, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN NIGERIA? Did you sail there in
the cat?!?!?
curious in Dallas....
Dave Laird
N63536 "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Help ... Australian Aviation Magazine back issue needed. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
Yak Listers (especially those in Australia),
I'm looking for a back issue (March 1992) of Australian Aviation Magazine that
had a feature article on the Yakovlev 18T "flight impressions."
I've sent two emails to the magazine (mail@ausaviation.com.au), but no response.
If anyone has this particular back issue, I would greatly appreciate a copy of
the article or maybe a scanned version in .pdf.
Thanks in advance for any information!
Respectfully,
Scott Huff
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| Subject: | Generator failure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
To all Yak owners:
This is something for everyone to check. Mine also came loose, but
without consequences. It seems it is a common failure mode, with the
screws backing out. After time, esp. during aeros, the wires will rub
through and short out. When flying with Gennady Elfimov recently, he
checked my plane out quite thoroughly (as he does), and he picked up the
problem before flight (just after annual) by noticing the screws were
backed out, by looking at the top 2 that protrude through the firewall.
Only one screw was holding on the bottom, and only just. It was
surprising that the whole fuse box had not pulled off and shorted out.
They are a real bitch to put back in. Three things make the job easier.
1. Loud and rude swearing.
2. Previous extensive gynaecological experience.
3. Replacing the missing screws with Allen screws, that are held
securely by the driver, whilst head down, upside down in the cockpit,
trying to insert the screw into the thread. If you use the standard
screws you will have to insert them by hand, which is not easy. I also
used ones that protruded by about 6/7 mm, allowing a lock-nut on the
firewall side.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Generator failure
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
There I was, at the East coast session this weekend, performing a lovely
hammerhead when, just at the top, a very smelly puff of blue smoke
emerged from the instrument panel. Throttle back, fall out and recover
while scanning the generator failure light illuminated. Headed back and
landed wiped out the fuse box access panel, Imagine my surprise when I
found the fuse board box screws had come loose at the top so the whole
panel was pivoted on the lower screws so that in the hammerhead it must
have touched something. So, I opened the box expecting to find a blown
fuse, did I find one, did I f &k. What I found was a wire that thought
it was a fuse. The + wire from the generator to the regulator had
TOTALLY fried itself. I left the plane there as Morty, thanks Morty,
said he would replace the wire this week. After looking at the circuit
diagram the wire goes straight to a fuse but does include a capacitor to
earth on the live side of the fuse. I suspect, but Morty you will have
to check, that the capacitor has short circuited and as the wire had no
protection it fried. This is one of the very few design faults on this
aircraft. I suspect that the capacitor should be on the downstream side
of the fuse.
Has anyone else seen this failure ?
Folks the next time you have the side panel off check the security of
the bolts that secure the power panel. They are not wired in and as
there is potentially 170 amps in there you don't want to start welding
at 6G.
hope this helps
Gus
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| Subject: | South County ACM Training |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Generally, I don't think much about the fact that my 65th birthday is looming
or that I'm 40lb heavier than I was at 25. This weekend at 3 - 5 Gs, I got
reminded, but was it fun!!
Thanks to Barry Hancock's hard work and bulldog tenacity, the scheduled Red
Star Palm Spring's ACM event got run instead at Q99 just south of San Jose.
Barry took the action north, letting CA's wet winter weather move south.
Keith Frost and his wonderful wife, Kathleen, became our ad hoc host and
hostess for superb diners for 12 at their home, while our IPs Cary Venden, Buck
Bender, Ace Ellinwood and Bob Watts with uniform flexibility came in from the
compass points.
All you folks are going to heaven. We learned a ton and had immense fun in
the process.
Many many thanks, Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Generator failure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
What exactly is coming loose????
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Generator failure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> To all Yak owners:
>
> This is something for everyone to check. Mine also came loose, but
> without consequences. It seems it is a common failure mode, with the
> screws backing out. After time, esp. during aeros, the wires will rub
> through and short out. When flying with Gennady Elfimov recently, he
> checked my plane out quite thoroughly (as he does), and he picked up the
> problem before flight (just after annual) by noticing the screws were
> backed out, by looking at the top 2 that protrude through the firewall.
> Only one screw was holding on the bottom, and only just. It was
> surprising that the whole fuse box had not pulled off and shorted out.
>
> They are a real bitch to put back in. Three things make the job easier.
>
> 1. Loud and rude swearing.
> 2. Previous extensive gynaecological experience.
> 3. Replacing the missing screws with Allen screws, that are held
> securely by the driver, whilst head down, upside down in the cockpit,
> trying to insert the screw into the thread. If you use the standard
> screws you will have to insert them by hand, which is not easy. I also
> used ones that protruded by about 6/7 mm, allowing a lock-nut on the
> firewall side.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Generator failure
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> There I was, at the East coast session this weekend, performing a lovely
> hammerhead when, just at the top, a very smelly puff of blue smoke
> emerged from the instrument panel. Throttle back, fall out and recover
> while scanning the generator failure light illuminated. Headed back and
> landed wiped out the fuse box access panel, Imagine my surprise when I
> found the fuse board box screws had come loose at the top so the whole
> panel was pivoted on the lower screws so that in the hammerhead it must
> have touched something. So, I opened the box expecting to find a blown
> fuse, did I find one, did I f &k. What I found was a wire that thought
> it was a fuse. The + wire from the generator to the regulator had
> TOTALLY fried itself. I left the plane there as Morty, thanks Morty,
> said he would replace the wire this week. After looking at the circuit
> diagram the wire goes straight to a fuse but does include a capacitor to
> earth on the live side of the fuse. I suspect, but Morty you will have
> to check, that the capacitor has short circuited and as the wire had no
> protection it fried. This is one of the very few design faults on this
> aircraft. I suspect that the capacitor should be on the downstream side
> of the fuse.
>
> Has anyone else seen this failure ?
>
> Folks the next time you have the side panel off check the security of
> the bolts that secure the power panel. They are not wired in and as
> there is potentially 170 amps in there you don't want to start welding
> at 6G.
>
> hope this helps
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
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> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Generator failure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
The fusebox. It is secured against the firewall by 4 machine screws, if
I remember correctly with a 5mm thread.
I have a spare one, it is quite heavy.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Generator failure
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
What exactly is coming loose????
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Generator failure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> To all Yak owners:
>
> This is something for everyone to check. Mine also came loose, but
> without consequences. It seems it is a common failure mode, with the
> screws backing out. After time, esp. during aeros, the wires will rub
> through and short out. When flying with Gennady Elfimov recently, he
> checked my plane out quite thoroughly (as he does), and he picked up
> the problem before flight (just after annual) by noticing the screws
> were backed out, by looking at the top 2 that protrude through the
> firewall. Only one screw was holding on the bottom, and only just. It
> was surprising that the whole fuse box had not pulled off and shorted
> out.
>
> They are a real bitch to put back in. Three things make the job
> easier.
>
> 1. Loud and rude swearing.
> 2. Previous extensive gynaecological experience.
> 3. Replacing the missing screws with Allen screws, that are held
> securely by the driver, whilst head down, upside down in the cockpit,
> trying to insert the screw into the thread. If you use the standard
> screws you will have to insert them by hand, which is not easy. I
> also used ones that protruded by about 6/7 mm, allowing a lock-nut on
> the firewall side.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Generator failure
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> There I was, at the East coast session this weekend, performing a
> lovely hammerhead when, just at the top, a very smelly puff of blue
> smoke emerged from the instrument panel. Throttle back, fall out and
> recover while scanning the generator failure light illuminated. Headed
> back and landed wiped out the fuse box access panel, Imagine my
> surprise when I found the fuse board box screws had come loose at the
> top so the whole panel was pivoted on the lower screws so that in the
> hammerhead it must have touched something. So, I opened the box
> expecting to find a blown fuse, did I find one, did I f &k. What I
> found was a wire that thought it was a fuse. The + wire from the
> generator to the regulator had TOTALLY fried itself. I left the plane
> there as Morty, thanks Morty, said he would replace the wire this
> week. After looking at the circuit diagram the wire goes straight to a
> fuse but does include a capacitor to earth on the live side of the
> fuse. I suspect, but Morty you will have to check, that the capacitor
> has short circuited and as the wire had no protection it fried. This
> is one of the very few design faults on this aircraft. I suspect that
> the capacitor should be on the downstream side of the fuse.
>
> Has anyone else seen this failure ?
>
> Folks the next time you have the side panel off check the security of
> the bolts that secure the power panel. They are not wired in and as
> there is potentially 170 amps in there you don't want to start welding
> at 6G.
>
> hope this helps
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Dave Laird wrote:
> Oh, and Brian, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN NIGERIA? Did you sail there in
> the cat?!?!?
No, I flew (commercially). I will be here on a consulting gig for a month. I
am going to try to get in with the Nigerian air force for a hop or two. They
fly RV-6s as their primary trainer. I'll keep you informed.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: South County ACM Training |
--> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com
Everything that Blitz said, squared.
Roger that.
John
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| Subject: | South County ACM Training....What a BLAST!!!! Hope to see more |
next time at ALL RED STAR !!!!
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Blitz was 110% correct.......
This weekend was a total BLAST!!!! The best part about this group is we had
NO WHINER's, absolutely none. Everyone pulled together, worked hard, no
delays in flights (4 flights Saturday alone), gas truck was always there to
ask "what do you need" and everyone learned something from beginners to more
advanced pilots. EVERYONE LEARNED something and safety and FUN were the top
priorities. It felt like a mini-ALL RED STAR with the groups working
together to increase everyone's knowledge and abilities.
It was fun flying with and against CJ's vs. Yak 52's. It really shows how
similar and also different the two aircraft really are.
If you attended, I know you will be back, if you missed it, you will sign up
and go the next time. It was discussed to have three to four of these camps
per year. No other warbird group does this. NONE !!!!! We are very fortunate
to be part of this wonderful group and this increases everyone's skill's and
abilities over all the other warbird groups. It will be hard for someone in
a P-51 to look down at you as you technically discuss how you can bring him
down in a dog flight or he will only beat you by running away.
I really hope more people get involved more in the ACM side for it is the
most satisfying flying I have done in years.
"Formation is what you do to get you to the ACM arena." Cary "MOTTO" Venden
Hope to see everyone next time (ALL REDSTAR) and fly safe.
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Generally, I don't think much about the fact that my 65th birthday is
looming
or that I'm 40lb heavier than I was at 25. This weekend at 3 - 5 Gs, I got
reminded, but was it fun!!
Thanks to Barry Hancock's hard work and bulldog tenacity, the scheduled Red
Star Palm Spring's ACM event got run instead at Q99 just south of San Jose.
Barry took the action north, letting CA's wet winter weather move south.
Keith Frost and his wonderful wife, Kathleen, became our ad hoc host and
hostess for superb diners for 12 at their home, while our IPs Cary Venden,
Buck
Bender, Ace Ellinwood and Bob Watts with uniform flexibility came in from
the
compass points.
All you folks are going to heaven. We learned a ton and had immense fun in
the process.
Many many thanks, Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Generator failure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <lannon@look.ca>
Good idea to specify the aircraft type with technical messages, but easy to
forget. Thanks
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Generator failure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> The fusebox. It is secured against the firewall by 4 machine screws, if
> I remember correctly with a 5mm thread.
>
> I have a spare one, it is quite heavy.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Generator failure
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> What exactly is coming loose????
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Generator failure
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > To all Yak owners:
> >
> > This is something for everyone to check. Mine also came loose, but
> > without consequences. It seems it is a common failure mode, with the
> > screws backing out. After time, esp. during aeros, the wires will rub
>
> > through and short out. When flying with Gennady Elfimov recently, he
> > checked my plane out quite thoroughly (as he does), and he picked up
> > the problem before flight (just after annual) by noticing the screws
> > were backed out, by looking at the top 2 that protrude through the
> > firewall. Only one screw was holding on the bottom, and only just. It
>
> > was surprising that the whole fuse box had not pulled off and shorted
> > out.
> >
> > They are a real bitch to put back in. Three things make the job
> > easier.
> >
> > 1. Loud and rude swearing.
> > 2. Previous extensive gynaecological experience.
> > 3. Replacing the missing screws with Allen screws, that are held
> > securely by the driver, whilst head down, upside down in the cockpit,
> > trying to insert the screw into the thread. If you use the standard
> > screws you will have to insert them by hand, which is not easy. I
> > also used ones that protruded by about 6/7 mm, allowing a lock-nut on
> > the firewall side.
> >
> > Jorgen
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Generator failure
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> > There I was, at the East coast session this weekend, performing a
> > lovely hammerhead when, just at the top, a very smelly puff of blue
> > smoke emerged from the instrument panel. Throttle back, fall out and
> > recover while scanning the generator failure light illuminated. Headed
>
> > back and landed wiped out the fuse box access panel, Imagine my
> > surprise when I found the fuse board box screws had come loose at the
> > top so the whole panel was pivoted on the lower screws so that in the
> > hammerhead it must have touched something. So, I opened the box
> > expecting to find a blown fuse, did I find one, did I f &k. What I
> > found was a wire that thought it was a fuse. The + wire from the
> > generator to the regulator had TOTALLY fried itself. I left the plane
> > there as Morty, thanks Morty, said he would replace the wire this
> > week. After looking at the circuit diagram the wire goes straight to a
>
> > fuse but does include a capacitor to earth on the live side of the
> > fuse. I suspect, but Morty you will have to check, that the capacitor
> > has short circuited and as the wire had no protection it fried. This
> > is one of the very few design faults on this aircraft. I suspect that
> > the capacitor should be on the downstream side of the fuse.
> >
> > Has anyone else seen this failure ?
> >
> > Folks the next time you have the side panel off check the security of
> > the bolts that secure the power panel. They are not wired in and as
> > there is potentially 170 amps in there you don't want to start welding
>
> > at 6G.
> >
> > hope this helps
> >
> > Gus
> >
> >
> > ==
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> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Whiel you're there see if you can come up with any L-29 stuff contacts. The
NAF used them as light attack aircraft.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
>
> Dave Laird wrote:
>
> > Oh, and Brian, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN NIGERIA? Did you sail there in
> > the cat?!?!?
>
> No, I flew (commercially). I will be here on a consulting gig for a
month. I am going to try to get in with the Nigerian air force for a hop or
two. They fly RV-6s as their primary trainer. I'll keep you informed.
>
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
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| Subject: | Pacific Coast Avionics |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
Recently ordered a Becker Transponder "kit" for my Yak . .
To take the place of the carb temp gauge-thing.
I bought the kit, which I thought included the transponder, blade antenna, encoder
and wiring harness.
I was surprised to find an antenna wire of appropriate length, along with extra
static line and a "T" fitting.
Most of the new installation was complete within 2 hours!
I NEVER expected they would send the antenna wire and static line in the installation
kit.
I was surprised and impressed.
Pacific Coast Avionics offered the best price, all the goodies and prompt service.
Your mileage may vary .. but I'm very impressed with their service.
Tom J.
Yak 52
Phoenix, AZ.
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