Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/04/04


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:25 AM - smoke pump (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
     2. 12:38 AM - Re: smoke pump (Aubrey Price)
     3. 05:34 AM - Re: [SPAM] - smoke pump - Email found in subject (Jay Land)
     4. 06:11 AM - . (rob)
     5. 06:12 AM - . (rob)
     6. 06:12 AM - . (rob)
     7. 06:12 AM - . (rob)
     8. 06:12 AM - . (rob)
     9. 07:14 AM - FAA Has Second Thoughts On T-34 Fleet (Again) (Mark Schrick)
    10. 07:43 AM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Richard Basiliere)
    11. 07:45 AM - Air driven smoke (Barry Hancock)
    12. 08:17 AM - Re: Air driven smoke (Richard Basiliere)
    13. 12:13 PM - cracks in YAK 50 (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
    14. 01:35 PM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Brian Lloyd)
    15. 01:35 PM - Vladimir Travel ()
    16. 02:02 PM - Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS (Brian Lloyd)
    17. 02:18 PM - Re: smoke pump (Coffey, John)
    18. 05:08 PM - Pitot Tube size and the RPA! (Drew Blahnick)
    19. 06:03 PM - Re: Pitot Tube Size (cpayne@joimail.com)
    20. 06:30 PM - Re: Re: Pitot Tube Size (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    21. 06:42 PM - Pitot Tube Size (Terry Calloway)
    22. 08:02 PM - Re: Pitot Tube size and the RPA! (Graeme Frew)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:25:05 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
    Subject: smoke pump
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> we use a fuel pump from a fuel injected car, they run approx 75 psi and have a check valve built in. (anti drip) & Designed to pump fuel!! simple of the shelf and fuel flow does not reduce due to exhaust back pressure unlike the rotary flap/ vein type used by some people. Also they last forever with no parts to service. MJ, YAK UK. Time: 04:19:50 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> Can anyone tell me a type/source of 24v pump and solenoid to use in a smoke system? Thanks, Jay Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business


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    Time: 12:38:49 AM PST US
    From: Aubrey Price <aprice@vartec.net>
    Subject: smoke pump
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Aubrey Price <aprice@vartec.net> Mark, You have my interest. What is used at the exhaust stack. Is there a spray nozzle of some kind to atomize the oil. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd [mailto:mark@yakuk.com] Subject: Yak-List: smoke pump --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> we use a fuel pump from a fuel injected car, they run approx 75 psi and have a check valve built in. (anti drip) & Designed to pump fuel!! simple of the shelf and fuel flow does not reduce due to exhaust back pressure unlike the rotary flap/ vein type used by some people. Also they last forever with no parts to service. MJ, YAK UK. Time: 04:19:50 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> Can anyone tell me a type/source of 24v pump and solenoid to use in a smoke system? Thanks, Jay Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business


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    Time: 05:34:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: smoke pump - Email found in subject
    From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> Mark Could you let us know a name and part # for the pump? It works on 24v ? Thanks, Jay > From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> > Reply-To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 08:22:08 -0000 > To: "YAK USA LIST" <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: smoke pump - Email found in subject > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> > > we use a fuel pump from a fuel injected car, they run approx 75 psi and have a > check valve built in. (anti drip) & Designed to pump fuel!! simple of the > shelf and fuel flow does not reduce due to exhaust back pressure unlike the > rotary flap/ vein type used by some people. Also they last forever with no > parts to service. > > MJ, YAK UK. > > > Time: 04:19:50 AM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system > From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> > > Can anyone tell me a type/source of 24v pump and solenoid to use in a smoke > system? > > Thanks, > > Jay > > > Best regards > Mark Jefferies > > : Managing director YAK UK Ltd > Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. > ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax > ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile > : Conditions/ terms of business > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:11:57 AM PST US
    From: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: .
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>


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    Time: 06:12:12 AM PST US
    From: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: .
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    Time: 06:12:32 AM PST US
    From: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: .
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>


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    Time: 06:12:41 AM PST US
    From: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>
    "Yak-List Digest List" <yak-list-digest@matronics.com>
    Subject: .
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net> spam


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    Time: 06:12:51 AM PST US
    From: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: .
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "rob" <edmist_r@bellsouth.net> spam


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    Time: 07:14:00 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: FAA Has Second Thoughts On T-34 Fleet (Again)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> FAA Has Second Thoughts On T-34 Fleet (Again) On Monday, the FAA published a final rule <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2004/04-4372.htm> affecting the T-34 fleet, declaring that the Alternative Methods of Compliance (AMOCs) it had approved for an earlier Airworthiness Directive on wing spars are no longer valid. The rule follows the November crash of a T-34 in Texas, in which two pilots were killed when a wing separated from the airplane while they were performing air-combat maneuvers. The impact of the new rule on the fleet is not quite clear, Tim Roehl, president of the T-34 <http://www.gami.com/t34.html> Spar Corp., which provides modifications for the airplanes, told AVweb yesterday. "We expect that the AMOCs will be revised and resubmitted to the FAA," he said. If that process works fairly smoothly, as Roehl anticipates, new AMOCs may be approved before T-34 owners are due for their next 80-hour inspection. However, the T-34 Association <http://www.t-34.com/index.htm> 's Web site said, "It appears that any T-34 that has accumulated 80 hours or more time in service since August 16, 2001, will be grounded on March 15, 2004, regardless of whether or not any AMOC has been performed. The only exception to this is the aircraft that have complied with Raytheon Service Bulletin No. 57-3329 are not effected [sic] by this amendment." The T-34 Association is hoping to work out a temporary AMOC for those that have already completed an AMOC by inspecting wing station 66 per Raytheon Service Bulletin 57-3329. Victor Juarez, the Designated Engineering Representative that designed the AMOC for General Aviation Modifications Inc. (GAMI) and the rear spar inspection for Nogle and Black Aviation, is currently working with GAMI to develop an inspection procedure and a fix that will extend the 80-hour reinspection interval of the Raytheon Service Bulletin to several thousand hours between inspections. Roehl said the revised AMOC would make available a fix that is OK'd for about 7,500 hours. The new FAA rule takes effect March 15. About 350 T-34s are flying in the U.S., Roehl estimated. The FAA first issued an AD about the T-34 wings in 1999, after a wing on a T-34A separated in flight. The FAA estimated that each repetitive inspection would cost about $1,860. Mark "SHREK" Schrick YAK DRIVER, Inc Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!! REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. SW Regional Coordinator 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 Hm/Fax 408-323-5150 Cell 408-391-6664 Email <mailto:schrick@pacbell.net> schrick@pacbell.net Website <http://www.yakdriver.com/> www.YAKDRIVER.com


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    Time: 07:43:38 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Wait just a minute...that's my friend - he e-mailed me first >>> l39parts@hotmail.com 3/3/2004 9:32:04 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> I have a friend in Nigeria that wants to send me something. Will you have room in your suitcase for $2.5 million US dollars when you come back? He's been trying to wire it to me and will pay 10% for your trouble. It is money left over from a military contract/deceased ex-pat/government official who wants to "protect it" from local instability.


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    Time: 07:45:14 AM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
    Subject: Air driven smoke
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> OK, let's talk more about this. Factory Sukhoi smoke...seems to work real well. Does anyone know how it is set up? I do know that you need about 60 psi for good smoke...so there's, uh, adequate reserve from our systems. :) I have the plumbing installed for my smoke system, but still no tank or pump. I'm interested in doing an air pressure system. Hey, if it's good enough for Sukhoi, it's good enough for me! Anyone have anymore info on how the system is set up? Thanks! Barry


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    Time: 08:17:40 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: Air driven smoke
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Barry; I have all the engineering drawings for my Sukhoi, so I'll check. But, from what I understand the compressor on the engine not only is plumbed to the start bottle but also to the smoke tank. If there is a reducer I'm not aware of it. 500-700psi seems to do well. I'll get back after looking at the drawings. Rick >>> radialpower@cox.net 3/4/2004 8:45:06 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> OK, let's talk more about this. Factory Sukhoi smoke...seems to work real well. Does anyone know how it is set up? I do know that you need about 60 psi for good smoke...so there's, uh, adequate reserve from our systems. :) I have the plumbing installed for my smoke system, but still no tank or pump. I'm interested in doing an air pressure system. Hey, if it's good enough for Sukhoi, it's good enough for me! Anyone have anymore info on how the system is set up? Thanks! Barry


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    Time: 12:13:43 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
    Subject: cracks in YAK 50
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> This one is for the YAK 50 owners. Take a look at http://www.yakuk.com/img/longeron_crack_yak50.jpg it shows a crack on the fuselage stringer, this crack has been found on 3 a/c in the UK out of 25 in addition to one abroad. So 4 in 30 a/c , with 80 a/c in known existence there are another 7 or 8 cracked stringers out there flying around !! Whilst talking of cracks on the 50 take a careful look at the fuselage formers from engine to instrument panel there is another common area where cracks near the fuel tanks we have seen on several occasions. Especially if you hang smoke tanks from them !! Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business


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    Time: 01:35:25 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Ron Davis wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> > > I have a friend in Nigeria that wants to send me something. Will you have > room in your suitcase for > $2.5 million US dollars when you come back? He's been trying to wire it to > me and will pay 10% for your trouble. It is money left over from a military > contract/deceased ex-pat/government official who wants to "protect it" from > local instability. Heck, sure. What are friends for! -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brian@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 01:35:25 PM PST US
    From: <johnhilterman1@cox.net>
    Subject: Vladimir Travel
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <johnhilterman1@cox.net> Yaksters, If anyone is in need of Vlad's services away from the San Diego area, I have a $295 credit for him to travel on Alaska Airlines. I'm willing to fork over the credit for $200. Hitman Yak-50 N3016


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    Time: 02:02:37 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: LED replacments for LDG LIGHTS
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Jon Boede wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net> > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> >> >>I have a friend in Nigeria that wants to send me something. Will you >>have room in your suitcase for >>$2.5 million US dollars when you come back? He's been trying to wire it >>to me and will pay 10% for your trouble. It is money left over from a >>military contract/deceased ex-pat/government official who wants to >>"protect it" from local instability. > > > Isn't Brian over there *contributing* to the instability? :-) Of course. It is what I do best. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brian@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 02:18:53 PM PST US
    Subject: smoke pump
    From: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com> Mark, Manufacturer? Part number? We B interested. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd Subject: Yak-List: smoke pump --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com> we use a fuel pump from a fuel injected car, they run approx 75 psi and have a check valve built in. (anti drip) & Designed to pump fuel!! simple of the shelf and fuel flow does not reduce due to exhaust back pressure unlike the rotary flap/ vein type used by some people. Also they last forever with no parts to service. MJ, YAK UK. Time: 04:19:50 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system From: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land <jland@popeandland.com> Can anyone tell me a type/source of 24v pump and solenoid to use in a smoke system? Thanks, Jay Best regards Mark Jefferies : Managing director YAK UK Ltd Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England. ( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax ( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile : Conditions/ terms of business == == == ==


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    Time: 05:08:07 PM PST US
    From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Pitot Tube size and the RPA!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> Folks, Can anyone tell me the exact circumference of the standard/typical Nanchang and Yak 52 pitot tube? Radius, Diameter, circumference...something, we can always pull out pi to find the other numbers if required ;) This would be a BIG help, I'm not at an airplane and in a REAL time crunch... thanks folks! PS: SunnFun is some 40 days away, we will have a FAST ground school starting in the afternoon on the 13th for which we need safety pilots and back seat experienced instructors. If you don't have your airplane and want to commercial in to help with the basic FAST clinic and still take part in the good times of SunnFun, we could use you. This is the first year we will run a seperate Mass Formation seminar for FAST qualed folks on the late afternoon of the 13th or morning of the 14th, with dedicated mass form flying and flight presentation during the EAA event. For RPA members who prefer to help with the FAST formation clinic, you can contact your Regional Coordinator if we don't already have you on the rolls for SunnFun. Web site re-opens March 11th... Drew Drew Blahnick RedStar Pilots Assoc. 310.872.0754 "Communism: Lousy Politics-Excellent Airplanes"


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    Time: 06:03:44 PM PST US
    From: cpayne@joimail.com
    Subject: Re: Pitot Tube Size
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cpayne@joimail.com Not so fast here! Length is a closely guarded secret. The 1st (YPC) Longest Pitot Tube contest was held in 2001 at MTW. The winner was James Goolsby. Many suspected artificial enhancement but the truth is that Jim's CJ is an early 1962 model "CJ-6", not the "-A" and it still had the Yak tube, which is bit longer than the CJ-6A. But heh, CJ's are way better looking. Craig Payne


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    Time: 06:30:48 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Pitot Tube Size
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 3/4/2004 9:04:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpayne@joimail.com writes: > > Length is a closely guarded secret. The 1st (YPC) Longest > Pitot Tube contest was held in 2001 at MTW. The winner was > James Goolsby. Many suspected artificial enhancement but the > truth is that Jim's CJ is an early 1962 model "CJ-6", not > the "-A" and it still had the Yak tube, which is bit longer > than the CJ-6A. But heh, CJ's are way better looking. > > Craig Payne Hey!!! My CJ-6 was a 1969 model! (Jim Plumby of S.C. has the earliest built CJ-6, I believe. Its a 1962.) I believe my rather large pitot tube was actually a modification for some special secret mission still buried in the most secret files under Tinnomen Square. That is has some semblance to my physical attributes is just coincidence! BTW the winning numbers were: 1 1/8 inches in diameter and 20 15/16 inches long. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man.


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    Time: 06:42:31 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Pitot Tube Size
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> Drew, If you are looking to have a pitot cover manufactured, might I suggest you consult the T28-List (A.K.A. Trojans) tc


    Message 22


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    Time: 08:02:48 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot Tube size and the RPA!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net> Drew, Just got back from the hangar. 98mm is the dia and it protrudes 390mm from the leading edge. That last figure is interesting as the book value is 530mm. Hope this helps in a timely fashion. Cheers Graeme Frew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> Subject: Yak-List: Pitot Tube size and the RPA! > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <aapilot@adelphia.net> > > Folks, > > Can anyone tell me the exact circumference of the standard/typical Nanchang and Yak 52 pitot tube? Radius, Diameter, circumference...something, we can always pull out pi to find the other numbers if required ;) > > This would be a BIG help, I'm not at an airplane and in a REAL time crunch... > > thanks folks! > > PS: SunnFun is some 40 days away, we will have a FAST ground school starting in the afternoon on the 13th for which we need safety pilots and back seat experienced instructors. If you don't have your airplane and want to commercial in to help with the basic FAST clinic and still take part in the good times of SunnFun, we could use you. This is the first year we will run a seperate Mass Formation seminar for FAST qualed folks on the late afternoon of the 13th or morning of the 14th, with dedicated mass form flying and flight presentation during the EAA event. For RPA members who prefer to help with the FAST formation clinic, you can contact your Regional Coordinator if we don't already have you on the rolls for SunnFun. > > Web site re-opens March 11th... > > Drew > > > Drew Blahnick > RedStar Pilots Assoc. > 310.872.0754 > "Communism: Lousy Politics-Excellent Airplanes" > >




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