Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:58 AM - Re: W&B, fuel tanks (Brian Lloyd)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: Wing Fatigue (Brian Lloyd)
3. 05:31 AM - Re: W&B, fuel tanks (Brian Lloyd)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: Re: parachute (Gus Fraser)
5. 07:45 AM - Re:Re: Wing Fatigue (Barry Hancock)
6. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (D Zeman)
7. 09:04 AM - Re: Sources for Metric Fasteners (Doug Sapp)
8. 09:05 AM - Russian Parachutes (Richard Goode)
9. 09:20 AM - Re: Russian Parachutes (Ernest Martinez)
10. 09:20 AM - Re: Sources for Metric Fasteners (Ernest Martinez)
11. 09:33 AM - CJ 285HP Leather Cowl Seals (Dave Laird)
12. 10:11 AM - Re: SPINNER (Doug Sapp)
13. 10:15 AM - Re: gills (Doug Sapp)
14. 10:39 AM - Re: Sources for Metric Fasteners (Doug Sapp)
15. 11:01 AM - Re: Sources for Metric Fasteners (Ernest Martinez)
16. 11:34 AM - FAST gig (Alan Cockrell)
17. 11:47 AM - Parachute For Sale (RV_8 Pilot)
18. 01:16 PM - Re: Re:Re: Wing Fatigue (Brian Lloyd)
19. 04:48 PM - RPA Update ()
20. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: Re: parachute (Jim Duffy)
21. 05:37 PM - Mark J - were you driving? (Janet Davidson)
22. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ron Davis)
23. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ron Davis)
24. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ron Davis)
25. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ron Davis)
26. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (D Zeman)
27. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (A. Dennis Savarese)
28. 09:00 PM - Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". (Andrei Litouev)
29. 09:21 PM - Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". (KingCJ6@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: W&B, fuel tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ron Davis wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Fuel transfer problems aren't unique to Nanching. Cessna's have a long
> history of glitches- 310s pump fuel overboard, 208s have uncommanded
> transfers, etc.
I know. Pretty ugly designs. What is it about airplane designers that they feel
a need to repeat the same stupid design flaws. Aircraft electrical systems
are amongst the worst offenders for perpetually propagated stupidity.
> If you think fuel transfer is problematic you better sail home from Nigeria.
I think it is a problem with a lot of ferry fuel systems. There is a single point
of failure, usually having to do with an electrical transfer pump. Now you
are in the middle of the ocean with three hours of fuel left and five or six
hours to the nearest land. Three hours to contemplate your fate. That's gotta
hurt.
> Boeings, and especially Douglas DC-10s have complex fuel transfer schemes
> (Shall we pump some fuel up into the tail now, captain?}.
I am familiar with the DC-10. Been through school on that one (back in the '70s
so I don't remember much now).
> The Concorde, to
> cite an unsucessful airliner, also transfered fuel to stay in CG.
I certainly understand why. And if you do a proper design you can survive a failure
of a single system.
> Sure pumps fail sometimes, but the most common fuel transfer failure is the
> pilot forgets to ____(fill in the blank)_____. If you can't get the knack
> of it, there's always the Cub or Champ: One tank, no valves.
And people still manage to have "improper fuel management incidents" in them too.
:-)
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Fatigue |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Ron Davis wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Theoretically, any metal will fatigue as Marshall stated. If you
> have some time get a piece of aluminum foil from you kitchen and
> deflect it 10 degrees up and back until it fails. I'd like to know
> this number, but don't have time to do the test myself.
The number of load cycles in aluminum varies with the loading. An aluminum structure
designed to handle a 6G load 10,000 times might last 1,000,000 cycles of
a 3G load.
Mild carbon steel is the exception. If you stay in its elastic range you can cycle
it forever and it will be as good as new.
> Certified transports in the U.S. have to do those tests to determine
> wing life. They do it while the fleet is flying because they don't
> want to do 20 or 30 years of testing before they deliver the first
> plane.
Yeah, you fly 'em until they fail and then you know to back off the lifetime from
that point. :-)
> The communists turned out to be smarter than Nixon told me they were
> when he sent me to Vietnam. Cheng Bushi designed a very good plane
> and since the others haven't been falling out of the sky, yours
> probably won't either.
Engineering knows no politics. Aluminum doesn't care who you worship. I have
always felt that the policy of, "make it too strong then beef it up just a little
more for luck," is good especially when my ass is on the line.
> If you really need something to worry about, then worry about a Beech
> falling on you. This product of American ingenuity has spar ADs on
> the 1940s vintage D-18 through the 1990s vintage King Airs, and lots
> of things inbetween. You can get a really good deal on a T-34 right
> now. Beech should offer Mr. Cheng a job.
This is where designing to a 100% overload factor really pays off.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: W&B, fuel tanks |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Brian Lloyd wrote:
>> Boeings, and especially Douglas DC-10s have complex fuel transfer
>> schemes (Shall we pump some fuel up into the tail now, captain?}.
>>
>
>
> I am familiar with the DC-10. Been through school on that one (back
> in the '70s so I don't remember much now).
BTW, here is a useless and little-known piece of trivia. A lightly-loaded DC-10
is capable of sustaining mach-1+ in straight and level flight.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I think the important point here is "or any other military
designation or specification number.", they sure have one, it may be in
cyrilic/chinese but it still counts. The issue I have always found is
getting someone to pack it, riggers tend not to like packing chutes from the
major manufacturers.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: RE: parachute
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Zeman,
The aircraft is legal to fly if it has an airworthiness certificate issued
in accordance with the FARs.
The last part of FAR 91.307 says:
(e) For the purposes of this section, approved parachute means--
(1) A parachute manufactured under a type certificate or a technical
standard order (C-23 series); or
(2) A personnel-carrying military parachute identified by an NAF,
AAF, or AN drawing number, an AAF order number, or any other military
designation or specification number.
I read it. I don't see where it says the chute is ok in a CJ. Please
explain it to me.
Please explain also how "it helps that the plane is designed to have a chute
at all times.
No, my seat cushion isn't TSO'd. Please tell me the FAR number that says it
has to be.
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| Subject: | Re:re: Wing Fatigue |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Just some clarification....
> > promote safety (which, to me, means giving practical solutions/
> > applications), but all I got out of that article is a bunch of
> hypotheticals
>
> > as it relates to our aircraft.
>
> OK, I am going to play devil's advocate here. First, remember that all-
> important
> quotation, "Never attribute to malice that which may be adequately
> explained
> by stupidity." OK, substitute "ignorance" for "stupidity."
>
> Any discussion of safety begins with a statement of fact. WBM did
> that. I then
> propose to you that they didn't have any more information nor did they
> have
> the background to even begin to offer a suggestion of a solution. I
> don't think
> that their article was malicious. I think they stopped at the end of
> what
> they knew which is what they should have done.
You seem to be insinuating here that I attributed malice to the
article...not so. I'm just frustrated by articles that state facts and
offer no solutions when it comes to a safety concern. It really serves
no purpose...other than to perhaps promote discussion that could lead
to a practical solution...but kind of a roundabout way of doing things.
I'm not here to discuss the merits of that tho'.
>
> Now here is another idea. Consider what it looks like to the rest of
> the
> warbird
> community when we erupt like a struck hornet's nest when WBM publishes
> an
> article
> of fact. We start accusing people of all sorts of mischief
Funny how people read into things. Again, no mischief portrayed, or
intended. To me (and perhaps one or two others) no article on safety
is complete without solutions or suggestions.
> when the right
> answer would be to produce the follow-on article that shows that RSPA
> is dealing
> with the issue.
That is a very good idea. However I don't think it is a current issue
for our aircraft. However, it is obviously a good idea to raise the
level of consciousness. If certain individuals, however, keep dog
fighting in their -50's *every stinkin' weekend* (me, jealous?
Naaa....) Also, a discussion on this list *might* generate a
worthwhile solution...which is why I started the thread in the first
place. I don't have one, but maybe I can facilitate one... I believe
your comment below is as applicable to you as anyone, no? :)----
>
> So quit bellyaching and do something. Or just quit bellyaching.
Hey, I think a discussion on the topic on this list is worthwile. It
ain't bellyaching to discuss the G-limits of our airplanes, or wing
fatigue, or give hard facts about those poor Target-34 bastards with
the peanut brittle wings (gives me warm fuzzies, actually, but I'm the
vengeful sort! :) Are you saying we can't air our dirty laundry,
Brian? Where's Mr. McCoy? :)-
>
> > If I remember correctly, the Russians use a G-limit that is 50% of
> > structural failure (of a NEW wing). I don't recall what the Chinese
> > used...Pappy?
>
> It is 50%, at least that is what I remember from our discussion with
> Bushi Cheng
> when he was here.
Me too, but wasn't sure. Anyone wanna go test it? :)-
>
> > However, the article did indirectly highlight that if you are using
> your
> > aircraft in a higher G environment you need to make sure you are
> doing
> > a thorough preflight (inspecting structural integrity, working
> rivets, etc.)
>
> > every time you fly, and it would be wise to be on a 50 hour
> inspection
> > program, etc.
>
> Common sense.
Not installed on all models...
>
> > Now, take this information, your own cup, and a quarter to 7-Eleven,
> and
> > you just might get a cup of coffee.... :)
>
> Yeah, and it was worth every penny I paid for it too! :)
See, you know a good value when you see one after all......
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Hi Gus,
"or any other military designation or specification
number." That is the line!
My point is it is your personal decision to use or not
to use Russian chutes - this decision has not been
made for you by the FAA.
A good rigger can pack you chute and taking the copy
of the manual (like Mark Jefferies offers) will help.
Zeman
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Sources for Metric Fasteners |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
For starters, the flare fitting on the air/ water filter end caps are 45
degrees.......you doubt me??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Welcome back Doug;
Where are the 45 deg. pipe flares on the CJ?
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Guys,
> Just back today from 16 days in China. I carry the 4 and 5 mm stainless
> steel truss head (Phillips) in stock @ $24.00 per hundred. Also found a
> source for the correct 45 degree metric tubing flare tool, brought 10 back
> in my luggage.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Metric Screw and Tool Company. The best source.
> http://www.metricscrew-toolco.com/
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> >
> > Ok, Can someone list some great sources of SS metric fasteners
> particularly
> > phillips truss head screws for all the access panels.
> > L. Williams, CJ-6 driver
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Russian Parachutes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak-List
Russian Parachutes
I am not an expert in parachutes, but I do know people who are, and I can say that
their view is that the quality of the Russian parachute is far higher than
those of commercially produced Western parachutes.
Also, importantly, the parachute part of the standard Russian parachute is exactly
the same whether in a Yak-52 or in a MiG-29/Sukhoi 27, and there has been
enough evidence to the world at Air Shows that those chutes really DO work!
On the negative side, they are not particularly comfortable, but is seems that
that is a fairly small gripe.
I raise this only in reaction to Ron Davis' letter saying that a "approved parachute"
is one identified by ... "any other military designation or specification
number."
He is possibly quoting in context, but I see nothing there that says it has to
be a US designation/specification, and the Russian parachute most certainly has
a military designation and specification.
If anyone is interested, I could certainly obtain these.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Newport House
Almeley
Herefordshire
HR3 6LL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Russian Parachutes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Is Mark Jeffries the one selling the English manual for the Russian
chutes? If so......Mark, can you sned me the price of the manual.
Thanks
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Subject: Yak-List: Russian Parachutes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak-List
Russian Parachutes
I am not an expert in parachutes, but I do know people who are, and I
can say that their view is that the quality of the Russian parachute is
far higher than those of commercially produced Western parachutes.
Also, importantly, the parachute part of the standard Russian parachute
is exactly the same whether in a Yak-52 or in a MiG-29/Sukhoi 27, and
there has been enough evidence to the world at Air Shows that those
chutes really DO work!
On the negative side, they are not particularly comfortable, but is
seems that that is a fairly small gripe.
I raise this only in reaction to Ron Davis' letter saying that a
"approved parachute" is one identified by ... "any other military
designation or specification number."
He is possibly quoting in context, but I see nothing there that says it
has to be a US designation/specification, and the Russian parachute most
certainly has a military designation and specification.
If anyone is interested, I could certainly obtain these.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Newport House
Almeley
Herefordshire
HR3 6LL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Sources for Metric Fasteners |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Doug,
Have you had a chance to manufacture the "Small" stainless air filter
for the CJ???
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
For starters, the flare fitting on the air/ water filter end caps are 45
degrees.......you doubt me??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Welcome back Doug;
Where are the 45 deg. pipe flares on the CJ?
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Guys,
> Just back today from 16 days in China. I carry the 4 and 5 mm
stainless
> steel truss head (Phillips) in stock @ $24.00 per hundred. Also found
a
> source for the correct 45 degree metric tubing flare tool, brought 10
back
> in my luggage.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Metric Screw and Tool Company. The best source.
> http://www.metricscrew-toolco.com/
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> >
> > Ok, Can someone list some great sources of SS metric fasteners
> particularly
> > phillips truss head screws for all the access panels.
> > L. Williams, CJ-6 driver
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | CJ 285HP Leather Cowl Seals |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
Hey Doug,
Did you ever get any of the leather cowl seals?
Did you sneak some back from China in your boots?
Anyone else have a source for these?
I think they are the same on the Yak engine...comments?
I'd like to replace all of mine on my CJ6A , "Betty"...
Dave Laird
N63536 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Art,
Get me the part numbers of what you need to complete your installation. I
found another parts vendor while in China and while visiting him I noticed
some of the controls you need.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Art Stavro
Subject: Yak-List: SPINNER
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Art Stavro" <art79@cwnet.com>
CRAIG, ARE YOU STILL LOOKING FOR A LES CROWDER ALUMINUM SPINNER ASSEMBLY? I
HAVE A NICE POLISHED ONE ONE MY AIRPLANE. I BELIEVE I HAVE FOUND A GILL
LOUVER ASSEMBLY (THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE RESPONDED), BUT I AM ALSO IN NEED OF
THE CONTROL KNOB AND PUSHROD TUBE THAT CAME WITH THE CJ ORIGINALLY. THANKS,
ART
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Sam,
The difference lies in the fact that the 4 bolt pattern on the M14 nose case
is just a bit different than that of the 285 hp engine. A set of gills off
a M14 will not fit the 285 UNLESS you change out the center ring. The
individual gills are interchangeable with either system.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Sax
Subject: RE: Yak-List: gills
--> Yak-List message posted by: Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com>
Doug, et al,
FWIW, Yak-52 stock gills should fit the 285 engine - providing the original
rods are used (with the "high tech" jam nut system...). Similarly, the
stock 285 gills would fit on the M-14 installation, using Yak-52 screw head
rods (a couple of my original 'stock' gills are on my M-14 installation and
work just as they should).
Sam Sax
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: gills
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Mark,
The M14 set of gills will not fit the 285 hp engine due to a difference in
the bolt pattern on the nose case.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Jefferies
YAK UK Ltd
Subject: Yak-List: gills
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
We have in stock a factory new gill ring set for a 52, 1600Euro.
cheers, MJ
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Art Stavro" <art79@cwnet.com>
ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A NICE COMPLETE SET OF GILL LOUVERS THEY MIGHT WANT TO
TRADE
FOR ONE OF THOSE LARGE ALUMINUM SPINNERS. CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE
FELLA
WHO WAS BUILDING THEM, BUT I HAVE ONE ON MY CJ. I PREFER THE STOCK LOOK.
IT ALSO GETS COLD UP HERE HALF THE YEAR. I SEEM TO REMEMBER SOMEONE ASKING
ABOUT
ONE RECENTLY ON THE LIST. THANKS,
ART
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| Subject: | Sources for Metric Fasteners |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
No, we saw no market for the small filter since it is pretty worthless
unless you live in a real dry area. I would recommend that you consider
changing to the higher capacity long filter since you live in a pretty damp
and humid area.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez"
<ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Doug,
Have you had a chance to manufacture the "Small" stainless air filter
for the CJ???
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
For starters, the flare fitting on the air/ water filter end caps are 45
degrees.......you doubt me??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Welcome back Doug;
Where are the 45 deg. pipe flares on the CJ?
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Guys,
> Just back today from 16 days in China. I carry the 4 and 5 mm
stainless
> steel truss head (Phillips) in stock @ $24.00 per hundred. Also found
a
> source for the correct 45 degree metric tubing flare tool, brought 10
back
> in my luggage.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Metric Screw and Tool Company. The best source.
> http://www.metricscrew-toolco.com/
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> >
> > Ok, Can someone list some great sources of SS metric fasteners
> particularly
> > phillips truss head screws for all the access panels.
> > L. Williams, CJ-6 driver
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Sources for Metric Fasteners |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Thanks,
Send me the price and instructions. If its not too painfull, I'll do it
during my annual next month.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
No, we saw no market for the small filter since it is pretty worthless
unless you live in a real dry area. I would recommend that you consider
changing to the higher capacity long filter since you live in a pretty
damp
and humid area.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez"
<ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Doug,
Have you had a chance to manufacture the "Small" stainless air filter
for the CJ???
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
For starters, the flare fitting on the air/ water filter end caps are 45
degrees.......you doubt me??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Welcome back Doug;
Where are the 45 deg. pipe flares on the CJ?
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Guys,
> Just back today from 16 days in China. I carry the 4 and 5 mm
stainless
> steel truss head (Phillips) in stock @ $24.00 per hundred. Also found
a
> source for the correct 45 degree metric tubing flare tool, brought 10
back
> in my luggage.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Metric Screw and Tool Company. The best source.
> http://www.metricscrew-toolco.com/
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Sources for Metric Fasteners
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lynn Williams" <laupdates@msn.com>
> >
> > Ok, Can someone list some great sources of SS metric fasteners
> particularly
> > phillips truss head screws for all the access panels.
> > L. Williams, CJ-6 driver
> >
> >
>
>
==
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==
==
==
==
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Alan Cockrell" <yakdriver@comcast.net>
Jeff Linebough is giving his powerpoint formation ground school at Moontown Airfield
at 1800 hrs April 2 at the field. Jeff is maxed-out for Saturday Apr 3
flying but any other FAST examiner/instructor who wants to come can be put to
work. A Rat Squadron runwayside cookout will kick-off at 1800 hrs Sat.
Moontown Airfield (3M5), is 9 NM east HSV Alabama. Website: http://members.fortunecity.com/phantomtwo/moontown/
Contact me through Friday for details. After that contact George Myers (ggm2@daimlerchrysler.com).
Camping on airfield available or we'll help you with accomodations.
Alan
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| Subject: | Parachute For Sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I've got a surplus USAF backpack emergency chute for sale. I bought it as a
backseat chute for my RV. It is acceptable for only those who are very
height challanged (about 3-4" thick, moves you too far fwd). Bottom line -
not very useful to me with my RV.
It was repacked 1.5 -2 yrs ago with no difficulty. Been kept in climate
control (AC) for the 4 yrs I've owned it. Appears to be in good condition.
Might have made a good high-rise escape rig, but that fear seems to be
waining. Realistically, it might make a good backseat (or front seat!)
chute for you Yak and CJ owners.
Asking $300. Will pay shipping to anywhere in Cont US.
rv_8pilot@hotmail.com
Bryan Jones
Houston, Texas
All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by
ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn
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| Subject: | Re:re: Wing Fatigue |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Barry Hancock wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Just some clarification....
None needed.
> You seem to be insinuating here that I attributed malice to the
> article...not so. I'm just frustrated by articles that state facts and
> offer no solutions when it comes to a safety concern.
OK, frustration. I did see a couple of comments that implied a perception of malice.
You were not the only target for my message.
> That is a very good idea. However I don't think it is a current issue
> for our aircraft. However, it is obviously a good idea to raise the
> level of consciousness.
Not a bad idea at all.
> place. I don't have one, but maybe I can facilitate one... I believe
> your comment below is as applicable to you as anyone, no? :)----
...
>>So quit bellyaching and do something. Or just quit bellyaching.
Yeah. It does presume one thing: that I care to do so. I don't. I view the whole
safety thing as personal. There seems to be a lot of, "if enough people
agree then it must be right," in the aviation community. There is nothing in
any of this that is rocket science. Most anyone can look at their airplane and
realize just how many ways it can break and then go about making sure it doesn't.
> Hey, I think a discussion on the topic on this list is worthwile. It
> ain't bellyaching to discuss the G-limits of our airplanes, or wing
> fatigue, or give hard facts about those poor Target-34 bastards with
> the peanut brittle wings (gives me warm fuzzies, actually, but I'm the
> vengeful sort! :)
Why? I don't really care what they say or do but I do feel sorry for them. I
would want to be able to fly my airplane without limitation and would hope that
others could too. The T-34 is a nice airplane. I wish its owners the best
of luck so they get flying again. Taking yourself too seriously is its own reward.
This is something that I just don't understand at all. How can anyone speak ill
of *ANY* airplane? Airplanes are wonderful creations. Some are more wonderful
than others but they are all great in their own ways. The T-34 is a great
airplane. The CJ6A is a great airplane. The Yak-52 is a great airplane. The
C-150 is a great airplane. The C-172 is a great airplane. If it takes me from
the ground and returns me safely, it is a great airplane.
> Are you saying we can't air our dirty laundry,
> Brian?
Of course not. But it didn't look like dirty laundry.
> Where's Mr. McCoy? :)-
Yeah, I miss Mike. Seriously! He tended to violate the "don't take yourself too
seriously," edict a bit often but he knew his stuff and was always good for
a pleasant argument. OK, some people like to go to bars, get drunk, and fight
on Saturday night. I prefer to do it in an email list.
> Me too, but wasn't sure. Anyone wanna go test it? :)-
No, it would hurt too much.
>>Common sense.
>
>
> Not installed on all models...
Nope. Common sense is most uncommon.
>>Yeah, and it was worth every penny I paid for it too! :)
>
>
> See, you know a good value when you see one after all......
Nope, not me.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net>
Folks,
Our webmanager has now reopened the assoc. website at www.flyredstar.org
with a stand alone modern forum at www.flyredstar.com (also can be reached
through the .org site).
Please note, all members will recieve an e-mail containing their new Member
REGION, starting with the Southeast. This is being done to insure the "help
desk" (webmanagers cell phone) is not overloaded.
The association has ordered several thousand in merchandise and we will be
reopening the online store as well with secure credit card capability,
Thanks for listening,
Drew
RPA
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| Subject: | Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Duffy" <jduffy@webpipe.net>
The real problem is finding a parachute rigger that will sign it off,
parachutes are required to be inspected every 120 days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: RE: parachute
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Zeman,
>
> The aircraft is legal to fly if it has an airworthiness certificate issued
> in accordance with the FARs.
>
> The last part of FAR 91.307 says:
> (e) For the purposes of this section, approved parachute means--
> (1) A parachute manufactured under a type certificate or a technical
> standard order (C-23 series); or
> (2) A personnel-carrying military parachute identified by an NAF,
> AAF, or AN drawing number, an AAF order number, or any other military
> designation or specification number.
>
> I read it. I don't see where it says the chute is ok in a CJ. Please
> explain it to me.
> Please explain also how "it helps that the plane is designed to have a
chute
> at all times.
> No, my seat cushion isn't TSO'd. Please tell me the FAR number that says
it
> has to be.
>
>
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| Subject: | Mark J - were you driving? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
http://www.freefly.sk/modules/VIDEO/files/AN2-loop.mov
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx@hotmail.com
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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| Subject: | Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
That's been my experience, too. In fact many will pack them, but not put a
card in it. Shall we start a whole new debate on the legality of a chute
that doesn't have a card signed by a certificated rirgger?
"other military" may have been interpreted by the FAA to include our foes,
or may have been interpreted to not include any of our foes. It quite
possibly hasn't been formally decided yet. I'll wager a fifth of single
malt whisky against a can of domestic beer that if you call your local FAA
ops inspector and ask him, he'll say foreign military chutes aren't
included. I'll need to see it on FAA letterhead for you to collect.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
How do you define military? Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force? There
are official US document that says "Our military and Naval forces"? Those
documents exists because "military", by some official definitions, is ground
forces. The Coast Guard, until recently, was part of the Treasury
Department, but now it's part of Homeland Defense; still not part of the
Department of Defense.
It doesn't really matter how you or I define military as it's used in the
FARs. It only matters how the FAA lawyers define it.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
And that, in my humble opinion, is related to the legality of the chute. I
have never said that I have any concerns about the quality of the chute.
Riggers are trained, tested, and certificated, and I presume they know what
they can/should sign.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
P.S. Zeman,
I still need that FAR number which says the seat cushion in my experimental
plane needs a TSO.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Ron,
I was not being hostile, I was attempting to make a
point. Believe me, you ask the same question to
different FSDOs and you will get a different answer.
I bet any FAA or non-FAA rule stickler or interpreter
could ground your plane at any moment, mine plane as
well (example, some FSDOs want ELTs others don't
care). My point being these planes are gray in the
eyes of the FAA; silly to focus on the chute. Again,
your choice on the chute. Without any interpretation
the reg is NOT limited to US military, you would have
to be interpreting to conclude the exclusion of other
non-US military chutes. BTW, other military does not
necessarily mean a "foe" and Russia is not our foe.
Zeman
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
The Coast Guard was under the Dept. of Transportation prior to being
assigned to Homeland Defense. However, you are also correct about the Dept
of Treasury. The Coast Guard came under the Dept of Treasury until just
after WWII. Then they were assigned to the DOT.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> How do you define military? Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force?
There
> are official US document that says "Our military and Naval forces"? Those
> documents exists because "military", by some official definitions, is
ground
> forces. The Coast Guard, until recently, was part of the Treasury
> Department, but now it's part of Homeland Defense; still not part of the
> Department of Defense.
>
> It doesn't really matter how you or I define military as it's used in the
> FARs. It only matters how the FAA lawyers define it.
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrei Litouev" <alitouev@nyc.rr.com>
Russian parachutes.
I was serve in Russian air force in pararescue team ( TT 4000 jumps, 500 in the
Red Air Force). Beside rescue, my duty was pack parachutes. We had Mi-8, Mi-6
and Mi-26 helicopters and SU-25 ground support aircrafts.
So, I packed those shuts. All of them the same. Helicopter pilots has "C-4Y" (
the same for Yak-52), they sit on it. On board mechanics- belly mount container
with the same PN-58(C-4Y). Injection sets has the same shut behind had rest
C-5K (little mo complex, but the same design).
All military pilots in Russia had to make 2 parachute jumps a year (similar parachutes,
twice beggar). Twice a year we demonstrate hay reliable "C-4Y" is.
We took 100kg bag, strap it to the harness of "C-4Y" and damp from Mi-8 at 70
miters,150 km/h. 2 second- shut is open, an other 2 second- touch down.
Parachute very reliable.
Max. what (pilot+gears): 100kg
Min height of deployment: 60miters
Max. speed: 400km/h
Max. use: 12years ( read serial number- first two numbers is year of manufacturing)
Repack- every 3 month ( will open after 1 year, but I won't push that far- 200
feet it is very close).
Market price about $300 fresh.( I can call to manufactory about price).
Good lack.
N822AL
Andrei.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". |
--> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com
God, I love this list...
In a message dated 3/25/2004 9:01:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
alitouev@nyc.rr.com writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrei Litouev" <alitouev@nyc.rr.com>
Russian parachutes.
I was serve in Russian air force in pararescue team ( TT 4000 jumps, 500 in
the Red Air Force). Beside rescue, my duty was pack parachutes. We had Mi-8,
Mi-6 and Mi-26 helicopters and SU-25 ground support aircrafts.
So, I packed those shuts. All of them the same. Helicopter pilots has "C-4Y"
( the same for Yak-52), they sit on it. On board mechanics- belly mount
container with the same PN-58(C-4Y). Injection sets has the same shut behind had
rest C-5K (little mo complex, but the same design).
All military pilots in Russia had to make 2 parachute jumps a year (similar
parachutes, twice beggar). Twice a year we demonstrate hay reliable "C-4Y"
is. We took 100kg bag, strap it to the harness of "C-4Y" and damp from Mi-8 at
70 miters,150 km/h. 2 second- shut is open, an other 2 second- touch down.
Parachute very reliable.
Max. what (pilot+gears): 100kg
Min height of deployment: 60miters
Max. speed: 400km/h
Max. use: 12years ( read serial number- first two numbers is year of
manufacturing)
Repack- every 3 month ( will open after 1 year, but I won't push that far-
200 feet it is very close).
Market price about $300 fresh.( I can call to manufactory about price).
Good lack.
N822AL
Andrei.
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