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1. 12:39 AM - manuals (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
2. 02:06 AM - Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". (YakL1@aol.com)
3. 04:47 AM - Wanting C-4Y parachutes (2) (James Enkema)
4. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ernie)
5. 07:27 AM - C-4Y (Andrei Litouev)
6. 10:44 AM - downed comrade (Barry Hancock)
7. 12:30 PM - Re: downed comrade (Ernie)
8. 12:43 PM - Re: downed comrade (Kendel McCarley)
9. 01:37 PM - Mig Down (Ernie)
10. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: parachute (Ron Davis)
11. 07:25 PM - Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". (Ron Davis)
12. 09:08 PM - Comrade update (Barry Hancock)
13. 09:47 PM - Re: C-4Y (D Zeman)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
Ernie et all,
This page lists all manuals we offer along with prices http://www.yakuk.com/manuals.htm
regards, MJ
Time: 09:20:05 AM PST US
From: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Russian Parachutes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Is Mark Jeffries the one selling the English manual for the Russian
chutes? If so......Mark, can you send me the price of the manual.
Thanks
Ernie
YAKOVLEV aircraft sales
Mark Jefferies
Chief pilot and managing director YAK UK Ltd
Lt Gransden Airfield
Sandy, Beds
SG19 3BP
England
EGMJ 52'10N 000'10W
mark@yakuk.com
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Subject: | Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". |
--> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com
I believe that Comrade King is inspired to begin making his "twice a year"
jumps. I don't care if he does it under Red Silk or Red White and Blue silk,
but I wanna watch.
Z
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Subject: | Wanting C-4Y parachutes (2) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" <lennoxlimited@earthlink.net>
I have listened for days at the parachute bantering with anticipation each AM to
who is now on top of the heap. Bottom line there will be those of us who have
experienced the reliability of the YAK 52 and will fly with any Russian parachute
made. Legally? Currently our tort system can demonstate that almost anything
is illegal. How hard would it be to present a case? McDonalds is being
sued for making people fat. The benefit of this discussion for me was to learn
there is an english manual for repacking and the comment from our Russian
friend that for any parachute to save our kister we should make two jumps a year
and the chute should be professionally packed regardless of legality. Our
planes have a big sign in the cockpit "EXPERIMENTAL" and at the end of the day
our focus should be on safety and not legality. My experience is that the FAA
does not want anything to do with anything experimental much less experimental
exibition. Gees why do you think we had to sign that little FAA disclaimer
when we put one of these birds together. This aircraft does not meet FAA..............I
want a C-4y parachute and a manual to pack. I have two FAA approved
US made parachutes that I will trade even for two Russian C-4Y parachutes and
a manual to pack (in English). Let me know and I'll send details on chutes.
Jim Enkema Yak-52 N22154
423-773-3398 TN Mobile
843-206-3398 SC Mobile
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Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
The coast Guard was part of the Transportation Dept not Treasury before TSA.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> How do you define military? Army, Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force?
There
> are official US document that says "Our military and Naval forces"? Those
> documents exists because "military", by some official definitions, is
ground
> forces. The Coast Guard, until recently, was part of the Treasury
> Department, but now it's part of Homeland Defense; still not part of the
> Department of Defense.
>
> It doesn't really matter how you or I define military as it's used in the
> FARs. It only matters how the FAA lawyers define it.
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrei Litouev" <alitouev@nyc.rr.com>
Every buddy interested in C-4y.
I send e-mail to the manufactory with price request.
Market price from "privet collectors" $300.
In New York, Gardener we have a US certified Russian rigger, I personally tested
his skills- had to open my reserve once.
We have a pilot, ex military engineer/ test jumper, certified for service injection
seats and all Russian emergency shuts (this guy was involve in rating procedure
bailout from Ka-50 and Ka-52).
We can organize the service your C-4Y and those who fling over the water can get
a rubber bout packed inside the shut container with survive kit ( just an idea).
Owner Kobelt (Wallkill airport) wont to organize air show this summer, I don't
now all details yet. We have grate "Cavu" Restaurant-Bar several hundred yards
from runway.
Blue skis
Andrei
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Received some distrubing news yesterday. George Cambron, who is an
L-39 instructor pilot, Worldwide Warbirds chief pilot, and MiG-17
airshow pilot, was reported missing yesterday after not arriving at
Deer Valley as expected. Reports are still sketchy, but he apparently
reported an emergency at altitude (in the 30's) and was not heard from
again. The aircraft has been found, but no sign of the pilot or
parachute. Though not a Yak driver, he did recently go for his first
ride in a CJ and loved it.
I hope you will join us in our thoughts and prayers for him and his
family...
Barry
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Subject: | Re: downed comrade |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
What was he flying???
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: downed comrade
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Received some distrubing news yesterday. George Cambron, who is an
> L-39 instructor pilot, Worldwide Warbirds chief pilot, and MiG-17
> airshow pilot, was reported missing yesterday after not arriving at
> Deer Valley as expected. Reports are still sketchy, but he apparently
> reported an emergency at altitude (in the 30's) and was not heard from
> again. The aircraft has been found, but no sign of the pilot or
> parachute. Though not a Yak driver, he did recently go for his first
> ride in a CJ and loved it.
>
> I hope you will join us in our thoughts and prayers for him and his
> family...
>
> Barry
>
>
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Subject: | Re: downed comrade |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
He was flying the Mig-17. I've been hearing about this all morning on the radio
here in Tucson. No word yet on his recovery.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernie <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: downed comrade
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
What was he flying???
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: downed comrade
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Received some distrubing news yesterday. George Cambron, who is an
> L-39 instructor pilot, Worldwide Warbirds chief pilot, and MiG-17
> airshow pilot, was reported missing yesterday after not arriving at
> Deer Valley as expected. Reports are still sketchy, but he apparently
> reported an emergency at altitude (in the 30's) and was not heard from
> again. The aircraft has been found, but no sign of the pilot or
> parachute. Though not a Yak driver, he did recently go for his first
> ride in a CJ and loved it.
>
> I hope you will join us in our thoughts and prayers for him and his
> family...
>
> Barry
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I got this from the CJAA board:
"George Cambron went down today, He was at 35000 ft in his Mig 17 and had a fuel
feed failure in a drop tank. Imbalance caused him to loose bank control. Seat
cold, drop tank jettison cold.
He had a parachute with a 20 ft static line. No word yet, We pray for him and
his family."
Ernie
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Subject: | Re: RE: Re: RE: parachute |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
You might want to research that Dennis.
The Department of Transportation (DOT) was established by an act of
Congress, signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on October 15,
1966. Its first secretary, Alan S. Boyd, took office on January 16, 1967.
The department's first official day of operation was April 1, 1967.
You are correct that this was "after WW II", although I wouldn't term it
"just after WW II".
The Coast Guard history web site is
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/h_USCGhistory.html It makes reference
to the Secretary of the Treasury directing this and that throughout the
18th, 19th, and 20th century, and includes the statements "
"The Coast Guard was ordered to operate as part of the Navy on 1 November
1941. During the war, Coast Guard-manned ships sank 11 enemy submarines."
and
"The Coast Guard returned to the Treasury Department on Jan. 1, 1946."
CNN reported on 2/26/03:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Amid precision drills and military pomp, the U.S. Coast
Guard came under the jurisdiction of the newly created Department of
Homeland Security Tuesday, part of a unification process that represents the
largest government reorganization since the Truman administration.
The Coast Guard is one of 22 governmental departments that will be under the
auspices of Homeland Security, a merger that will be fully completed by
March 1. At that time, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge will be in
charge of 175,000 employees.
Tuesday afternoon, Ridge is scheduled to participate in ceremonies
transferring the Customs Service, the Secret Service, the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center from
the Treasury and Justice departments to the Department of Homeland Security.
Ref: http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/25/homeland.security/
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Subject: | Re: Yak-52. Russian parashute "C-4Y". |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Andrei,
No one who saw the photo of the Sukhoi ejection at the Paris Air Show can
doubt the quality of Russian seats and chutes. There are many laws about
airplanes and chutes in the US though. That is what we argue about.
Thank you for the information about the serial number and the 12 year limit.
Do you have some chutes for sale in New York? What year?
Ron
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Folks,
Contrary to earlier reports, no wreckage has been found yet. While it
does not look good, if anyone was going to come out of this alive, it
is George. The terrain is quite inhospitable where he apparently went
down, but there continues to be optimism that he bailed out...
We ask for your continued prayers and support.
Barry
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--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
I would recommend checking on the C-4Y container. I
have seen both a nylon container and a natural cotton
container variant in the US. The natural cotton
container variant requires a much more frequent
inspection (60 days I think), therefore make sure to
get the nylon container version.
Cheers,
Zeman
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