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1. 12:20 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: This will pucker you up! (Brian Lloyd)
3. 05:13 AM - More SNF Details (cpayne@joimail.com)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: This will pucker you up! (WSC/Herb Coussons)
5. 06:18 AM - Re: More SNF Details (Ernie)
6. 10:53 AM - Landing MCO (Jeff Linebaugh)
7. 11:19 AM - Re: Landing MCO (Ernie)
8. 04:37 PM - Re: More SNF Details (Jay Land)
9. 05:58 PM - Winter Haven (GIF) (cpayne@joimail.com)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: This will pucker you up! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
> My worse scare? Seeing the oil flow pattern on the belly of a cream and two
> tone brown Banonza
Hmmm, am I detecting a trend here? No, not the various interesting names like
'Banana', "Fork-Tailed Doctor Killer," etc., but rather the type of aircraft involved.
Perhaps it is some mind-altering substance that Beechcraft puts in the
primer. I suspect they used it in the primer for the T-34/Mentor as well.
> though the front wind shield of my 727, as we climbed out
> of the TCA for New York. I thought our T tail would hit him but it didn't.
I
> KNOW HE HEARD US!
Hearing another aircraft in while you are in-flight is definitely a sphincter-contractor.
When that Banana trimmed my hair when I was flying the Clipper I damned
near sucked the entire seat cushion up my ass. I was sure glad that I still
had 30 minutes of flying before I got home because I don't think I could
have landed the Clipper at that moment.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
Message 3
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| Subject: | More SNF Details |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
SNF Attendees,
I visited Winter Haven (GIF) the other day. They are still
saving a patch of grass along a taxiway for us, even though
they already have rental car reservations for 62 folks. The
Cessna Cardinal group will also be there, along with many
seaplanes operating off the waterway. After reading the
'list lately, NO T-bones, Bobanzas, or Banannas allowed.
If you want a rental car there, the FBO's # is (863)
293-2501. I tried to explain the concept of a 360 overhead
break but not sure I got through. Leads, keep your head on a
swivel for both active Runway AND Waterway traffic.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: This will pucker you up! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "WSC/Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
Hey, not all doctors are this stereotype!!
My near hit (not near miss) was in The only time in flew in Calif as well.
16K over the Sierras in a T210 IFR and a Bonanza crossed at 90 degrees under
me less than 100 ft. - nothing from ATC. Is it doctors, Calif or ATC?
Herb "Doc" Coussons
Former V35B N6642Y
Former T210N N210LJ
Current Yak 52TW N52DD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: This will pucker you up!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Now the next question should be what are the chances of a Bonanza causing
a
> bad day for someone else AND being piloted by a Doctor ?
>
> Question for Tom Johnson, are the insurance rates for Doctors at the helm
of
> a Bonanza higher than for others.
>
> If not, why not :)))))
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Halverson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: This will pucker you up!
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Halverson <william@netpros.net>
>
>
> And last year at the Burning Man event in Nevada, there were two crashes
> ... both Bonanzas ...
>
> Bill Halverson
> YAK-55
>
>
> At 05:01 PM 4/1/2004, Gus Fraser wrote:
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
> >
> >Brian,
> >This sounds familiar but two years ago I was flying back from Block
Island
> >at 9,500 Ft, under flight following, when the same thing happened to me,
> and
> >yes it was a Bonanza, maybe there is a trend here, maybe it was the same
> >guy.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More SNF Details |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Hey , how long is the runway. I dont think I'll be able to attent the
formation flights with you guys, since work has got me socked in. I was
thinking of flying down in the L-29 to visit you guys on thurs, then fly out
Fri to Leeward.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: More SNF Details
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>
> SNF Attendees,
>
> I visited Winter Haven (GIF) the other day. They are still
> saving a patch of grass along a taxiway for us, even though
> they already have rental car reservations for 62 folks. The
> Cessna Cardinal group will also be there, along with many
> seaplanes operating off the waterway. After reading the
> 'list lately, NO T-bones, Bobanzas, or Banannas allowed.
>
> If you want a rental car there, the FBO's # is (863)
> 293-2501. I tried to explain the concept of a 360 overhead
> break but not sure I got through. Leads, keep your head on a
> swivel for both active Runway AND Waterway traffic.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Ernie,
Cool...landing at Orlando International.... I always wanted to run over there....except
for the paying $3.50 a gallon or a ramp fee.
Do your Ops Limits not restrict you from landing at the primary airport in Class
B airspace?
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Actually Galaxy Aviation is an excellent FBO there which charges you no ramp
fee nor requires you to buy gas. All GA aircraft land on runway 18R or 36L
so you dont mix it up with the big boys usually. I'll usually but a few
gallons of gas from them on occasion, since the people there are so nice.
As far as the Ops limitations go, they state You cant fly into Class B
airspace unless directed by ATC. Since I'm on flight following before I even
enter the Mode C veil, ATC is directing me. I've flown in and out of there
at least 2 dozen times now, and ATC is very helpful and usually vector me
straight to the runway unless they have a lot of traffic. There are some
L-39's that fly into there occasionally for $1000 hamburgers in Orlando.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Landing MCO
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh
<jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
>
> Ernie,
>
> Cool...landing at Orlando International.... I always wanted to run over
there....except for the paying $3.50 a gallon or a ramp fee.
>
> Do your Ops Limits not restrict you from landing at the primary airport in
Class B airspace?
>
> Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
>
>
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| Subject: | More SNF Details |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay Land" <jland@popeandland.com>
What about Excalibur Queen Airs?
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: More SNF Details
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
SNF Attendees,
I visited Winter Haven (GIF) the other day. They are still
saving a patch of grass along a taxiway for us, even though
they already have rental car reservations for 62 folks. The
Cessna Cardinal group will also be there, along with many
seaplanes operating off the waterway. After reading the
'list lately, NO T-bones, Bobanzas, or Banannas allowed.
If you want a rental car there, the FBO's # is (863)
293-2501. I tried to explain the concept of a 360 overhead
break but not sure I got through. Leads, keep your head on a
swivel for both active Runway AND Waterway traffic.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Winter Haven (GIF) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
"Gilbert" Field, or Winter Haven;
04/22 is 5006' x 100' paved
11/29 is 3999' x 100' paved
Brown seaplane base operates on Lake Jessie, on the West
end.
Elevation - 145'
Unicom - 123.05
AWOS/ASOS - 133.675
Please consult your POH for landing a specific model
aircraft. Differing pilot experience and skill levels may
cause differing results from published data....
Craig Payne
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