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1. 03:31 AM - Re: Generator Warning Light ON in flight (Brian Lloyd)
2. 04:16 AM - Yak Certification (Richard Goode)
3. 05:53 AM - Yak-52 Leaking fuel hose (Andrei Litouev)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: Yak Certification (Jim Bowerman)
5. 08:22 AM - Re: Generator Warning Light ON in flight (Wes Warner)
6. 09:05 AM - Re: Yak Certification (Brian Lloyd)
7. 10:05 AM - Re: Way to go, guys! (Jorgen Nielsen)
8. 10:34 AM - http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
9. 12:02 PM - Re: Way to go, guys! (DaBear)
10. 02:44 PM - Drain Kit (Dennis Von Ruden)
11. 04:15 PM - Re: Way to go, guys! (Brian Lloyd)
12. 04:50 PM - RPA membership (Ernie)
13. 05:19 PM - Re: RPA membership (Gus Fraser)
14. 08:28 PM - Re: Generator Warning Light ON in flight (Royden Heays)
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| Subject: | Re: Generator Warning Light ON in flight |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Royden Heays wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <HEAYSR@telus.net>
>
> Wes,
>
> Armed with your good tips, the grey box is now out. Can't find anything
> cracked or broken in there. As Mark suggests, it looks like a
> replacement regulator might be necessary (DMP200 unit). Then the grey
> box has to go back in - horrors!
>
> Many thanks for guidance,
Some troubleshooting might be in order. Check to see if you have field voltage
and/or current before you rip out the regulator. If you have field voltage and
no generator output, you have a bad generator. You can check for an open field
winding if your brushes are good.
Field voltage usually implies that the regulator is good (more or less). A lack
of field voltage means a bad regulator OR bad field wiring. If the field voltage
comes right up to buss voltage instead of being something less, look for
an open field winding.
If you have field voltage check for voltage at the output of the generator when
the engine is running. If you never see any voltage there you may have a bad
generator cut-out relay. If you see high voltage there, higher than the buss
voltage, the cut-out relay is never closing. Bad cut-out relay or associated
wiring.
Do this kind of stuff before you start ripping things out of the plane. All it
requires is a voltmeter temporarily attached to the field and the generator output.
Of course, visual inspection for broken wires is always useful but knowing a few
things ahead of time can narrow down where you have to look.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Yak Certification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak Certification
I was interested to see Bill Halverson's comment that the FAA considers the Yak-55
to be the only Yak that is "Type-Certificated." The facts are however:
a.. The Yak-18T is fully certificated to the then Russian norms, but more importantly
to FAR23 standard in Hungary.
b.. For us Europeans this is important, since we do not have the luxury of an
"experimental" category, and as a "new build" aircraft, the Yak-18T does not
fit into any of the "historic" or "military" categories whereby we can fly non-certificated
aircraft.
c.. Fortunately Hungary is now part of JAA - the European Aviation Administration,
and virtually all European based Yak-18Ts are now on the Hungarian register,
with which they can fly in the normal category anywhere in the world.
d.. However they do need to be inspected annually by the Hungarian CAA, which
would be quite difficult if based in the US!
e.. Although other Yaks are not Type-Certificated, they were of course built
to stringent norms, but as we found to our cost, not the equivalent of Type-Certification,
and therefore we cannot get normal category certification for them.
I hope this helps.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Newport House
Almeley
Herefordshire
HR3 6LL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208
www.russianaeros.com
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| Subject: | Yak-52 Leaking fuel hose |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrei Litouev" <alitouev@nyc.rr.com>
Thank you guys for advices.
Jay Reiter- thank you for the picture.
Hose fittings on Yak looks a like on CJ.
Repairer the leaking hose and check for the leaks it took me 15- 20 minutes
Regards
Andrei Litouev
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Certification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Bowerman <jfbowerman@vartec.net>
Does the FAA not recognize the JAA certification that would then allow the
18T to be certified in the US?
Jim Bowerman
From the Blackberry of Jim Bowerman
VP International IT Operations
VarTec Telecom, Inc.
US Mobile +1 469-233-4994
Sent from my Blackberry Handheld
UK Mobile +44 7715 493 088
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Certification
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak Certification
I was interested to see Bill Halverson's comment that the FAA considers the
Yak-55 to be the only Yak that is "Type-Certificated." The facts are
however:
a.. The Yak-18T is fully certificated to the then Russian norms, but more
importantly to FAR23 standard in Hungary.
b.. For us Europeans this is important, since we do not have the luxury of
an "experimental" category, and as a "new build" aircraft, the Yak-18T does
not fit into any of the "historic" or "military" categories whereby we can
fly non-certificated aircraft.
c.. Fortunately Hungary is now part of JAA - the European Aviation
Administration, and virtually all European based Yak-18Ts are now on the
Hungarian register, with which they can fly in the normal category anywhere
in the world.
d.. However they do need to be inspected annually by the Hungarian CAA,
which would be quite difficult if based in the US!
e.. Although other Yaks are not Type-Certificated, they were of course
built to stringent norms, but as we found to our cost, not the equivalent of
Type-Certification, and therefore we cannot get normal category
certification for them.
I hope this helps.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Newport House
Almeley
Herefordshire
HR3 6LL
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Re: Generator Warning Light ON in flight |
Mail-Followup-To: Wes Warner <ufo@outerlimits.org>,
--> Yak-List message posted by: Wes Warner <ufo@outerlimits.org>
Royden,
Sorry for making you go through all that for nothing.. Just be sure
you physically try to move the wires to test for breaks. I didn't know one
of them was broken till I pushed on it.
Wes
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 10:56:38PM -0700, Royden Heays wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <HEAYSR@telus.net>
>
> Wes,
>
> Armed with your good tips, the grey box is now out. Can't find anything
> cracked or broken in there. As Mark suggests, it looks like a
> replacement regulator might be necessary (DMP200 unit). Then the grey
> box has to go back in - horrors!
>
> Many thanks for guidance,
>
> Royden
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Certification |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
Jim Bowerman wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Bowerman <jfbowerman@vartec.net>
>
> Does the FAA not recognize the JAA certification that would then allow the
> 18T to be certified in the US?
Surely you jest! That would require the US government to have a forward-thinking
international, non-US-centric viewpoint, and to admit that the approval procedures
of other countries were just as legitimate as their own. (And I live
here.)
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brian@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Way to go, guys! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Good article.
But I keep hearing one thing which ex Dosaaf pilot & air force engineers
assure me is not true: the 2 hour range.
It was designed that way according to the Yaks usage : training pilots.
Not to stop people defecting.
The 52 holds more than enough fuel for all the training missions
undertaken by dosaaf - it was never designed as cross country machine.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Subject: Yak-List: Way to go, guys!
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Hats off to Roger Baker, Gordon Witter and crew for getting this nice
article published in a major newspaper.
This from the San Diego Tribune....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
When local pilots take to the skies in former Soviet aircraft, it's
plane fun
By John Wilkens
STAFF WRITER
April 11, 2004
Darrell Gary left the Navy more than 25 years ago, but he retains the
chiseled looks of the Top Gun pilot he once was. His flight suit, worn
on missions off the carrier Coral Sea, still fits.
Now president of a real estate development company, Gary owns a small
plane and flies it out of McClellan-Palomar Airport in Carlsbad. He had
it painted blue and yellow, in homage to the Navy, and he has his old
call sign =96 Condor =96 stenciled on the side.
Everything about the pilot and his plane says American fighter jock
=96 except for the red star on the tail and the Cyrillic writing in the
cockpit.
The plane is a Yak-52, a Soviet-built trainer, one of a handful that
have made their way to San Diego County in recent years, offering proof
in a unique way that the Cold War is over.
"I spent 11 years studying Soviet tactics, learning how to kill the
people who trained on this plane," said Gary, who helped start the Top
Gun school at Miramar Naval Air Station in 1969. "Now I own one."
He's not gloating, not dancing on the grave of a vanquished foe. None of
the local aviators who own Soviet planes =96 several of them former
military and airline pilots =96 attach any geopolitical significance to
their acquisitions.
To them, it is just a chance to own a good plane at a good price =96
and a chance to remember why they started flying in the first place.
"This is a passion re-found for me," said Gordon Witter, retired chief
pilot for American Airlines and former chairman of the San Diego
Aerospace Museum. "It's as much fun in the air as I've ever had."
The local pilots are affiliated with a North County-based group called
the Yak Flying Association. They have Yaks at Palomar, Ramona, Gillespie
and French Valley airports.
The flying association, in turn, has ties to All Red Star, a
nationwide organization that includes owners of all manner of
Soviet-bloc aircraft, including helicopters and MiGs.
All Red Star's motto is, "Communism: Lousy politics =96 Great
airplanes!"
oA==
oA==
Sitting in his hangar at Palomar Airport, Roger Baker heard the Yaks
before he saw them. "They have that low rumble," he said of the
radial-engine planes. "A low rumble is nice."
On this day, the Yaks were doing formation flying out by Valley
Center, and then down the coast over Del Mar. Gary and Witter were
piloting two-seat Yak-52s, and Bruce Merrifield was behind the controls
of a four-seater, a Yak-18.
Baker had been up with them earlier, in another Yak-52, but something
was wrong now with the air-pressure system that controls the brakes and
the landing gear. He was waiting to call Vladimir Yastremski, a mechanic
from Ramona, to help him fix it.
Bit by the flying bug early, Baker grew up near an airport. He said
his mother remembers him standing outside in his diaper, pointing up at
the planes going by.
As a teen, he washed planes and did other chores at the airport =96
not for cash, but for plane rides. He learned to fly when he was 15.
Baker flew helicopters and planes in the Army, then joined United
Airlines, where he was a pilot for 36 years. When he retired last year,
he was flying behemoths, 747-400s, on runs from Los Angeles to Sydney
and Singapore.
Even as he flew huge commercial jets, Baker kept an interest in
smaller planes by building and flying them. Last summer, he was in the
news when he piloted a replica of Charles Lindbergh's 1927 plane, the
Spirit of St. Louis, into Lindbergh Field as part of the airport's 75th
anniversary.
As he moved through various aviation circles, Baker occasionally heard
good things about the Yak-52, first introduced in the late 1970s and
named for the aircraft designer Alexander S. Yakovlev.
About four years ago, as the Soviet Union splintered, "a light dawned
in our heads that this cool little plane might be available." He had
never flown one, but he and the Yak Flying Association bought two
anyway.
The planes =96 one built in 1985, the other in 1986 =96 were
overhauled in Kazakhstan, taken apart and shipped in crates to America,
then reassembled at Palomar. Baker eventually helped bring four other
Soviet planes to America for other buyers.
What he likes most about the Yak-52 is its sensitive controls.
"Anything you're brave enough to try, the plane is willing to do," he
said.
That means spins, rolls and other aerobatics. When All Red Star
members gather next month for their annual convention in Merced, they
will engage in mock combat.
"It is our own little fantasy fighter," Baker said, closest in feel
=96 in the marriage of man and machine =96 to World War II-era planes.
"We're playing the games that we used to play in the military. And
there's nobody that we have to stand in front of and salute."
oA==
oA==
The pilots said they bought the Soviet planes chiefly because of their
low cost and availability, compared with American counterparts. Baker
estimated that the Yak Flying Association has about $70,000 invested in
each of its two silver 52s.
"It was the most military airplane we could get for the money," said
Witter, who flew in the Air Force before joining American Airlines. He
retired in 1995 after 30 years with the company.
Since buying the planes, the association has twice brought Soviet
stunt pilots to this country to show them what the plane is capable of
doing. Quite a lot, they said.
Designed as a instructional plane, the 52 is easy to fly and
surprisingly versatile, they said. In the Soviet Union, pilots
typically started in that plane, then moved onto other aircraft as
their training progressed.
Sitting in the plane for the first time, it can be disconcerting to
see dials and instructions with Cyrillic lettering. (To qualify for use
in this country, some of the gauges have been switched to conform with
aviation standards here.) But any confusion quickly gives way to
something else, according to Witter.
"After you've flown this thing, when you get back down, you have this
exhilaration that is a feeling unlike any other. It's a feeling of
freedom, accomplishment and control. You are absolutely controlling
this machine."
There is, however, one crucial limitation. The plane only holds enough
fuel for about two hours of flying. Witter said the Yak was built that
way to discourage budding Soviet pilots from defecting with their
aircraft.
Then the Cold War ended, and it was the planes that defected. Barry
Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
Ladies and Gents, I have just posted to this link http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm drawings of the UK CAA approved FOD barrier, I recommend its use. With a little adaptation the same should be fitted to YAK 50, however in addition seal around the holes of the elevator cables, you will see where I mean when you get the fairings off.
Best regards
Mark Jefferies
: Managing director YAK UK Ltd
Little Gransden Airfield, Sandy, Beds SG19 3BP, England.
( +44 (0)1767 651156 Office + 651157 fax
( +44 (0)7785 538 317 Mobile
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| Subject: | Re: Way to go, guys! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
While that may or may not be the case (prevent defecting), relying upon
"offical statements" doesn't equate to validity. I'm sure the communist
government would state that they did that because of training issues, not
defection, as they had no citizen that wanted to defect. Also their form of
government was obviously superior to any other, etc. etc. etc.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Way to go, guys!
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Good article.
>
> But I keep hearing one thing which ex Dosaaf pilot & air force engineers
> assure me is not true: the 2 hour range.
>
> It was designed that way according to the Yaks usage : training pilots.
> Not to stop people defecting.
>
> The 52 holds more than enough fuel for all the training missions
> undertaken by dosaaf - it was never designed as cross country machine.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Way to go, guys!
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Hats off to Roger Baker, Gordon Witter and crew for getting this nice
> article published in a major newspaper.
>
> This from the San Diego Tribune....
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> When local pilots take to the skies in former Soviet aircraft, it's
> plane fun
>
> By John Wilkens
> STAFF WRITER
>
> April 11, 2004
>
>
> Darrell Gary left the Navy more than 25 years ago, but he retains the
> chiseled looks of the Top Gun pilot he once was. His flight suit, worn
> on missions off the carrier Coral Sea, still fits.
>
> Now president of a real estate development company, Gary owns a small
> plane and flies it out of McClellan-Palomar Airport in Carlsbad. He had
> it painted blue and yellow, in homage to the Navy, and he has his old
> call sign =96 Condor =96 stenciled on the side.
>
> Everything about the pilot and his plane says American fighter jock
> =96 except for the red star on the tail and the Cyrillic writing in the
> cockpit.
>
> The plane is a Yak-52, a Soviet-built trainer, one of a handful that
> have made their way to San Diego County in recent years, offering proof
> in a unique way that the Cold War is over.
>
> "I spent 11 years studying Soviet tactics, learning how to kill the
> people who trained on this plane," said Gary, who helped start the Top
> Gun school at Miramar Naval Air Station in 1969. "Now I own one."
>
>
> He's not gloating, not dancing on the grave of a vanquished foe. None of
> the local aviators who own Soviet planes =96 several of them former
> military and airline pilots =96 attach any geopolitical significance to
> their acquisitions.
>
> To them, it is just a chance to own a good plane at a good price =96
> and a chance to remember why they started flying in the first place.
>
> "This is a passion re-found for me," said Gordon Witter, retired chief
> pilot for American Airlines and former chairman of the San Diego
> Aerospace Museum. "It's as much fun in the air as I've ever had."
>
> The local pilots are affiliated with a North County-based group called
> the Yak Flying Association. They have Yaks at Palomar, Ramona, Gillespie
> and French Valley airports.
>
> The flying association, in turn, has ties to All Red Star, a
> nationwide organization that includes owners of all manner of
> Soviet-bloc aircraft, including helicopters and MiGs.
>
> All Red Star's motto is, "Communism: Lousy politics =96 Great
> airplanes!"
>
>
> oA==
>
> oA==
>
>
> Sitting in his hangar at Palomar Airport, Roger Baker heard the Yaks
> before he saw them. "They have that low rumble," he said of the
> radial-engine planes. "A low rumble is nice."
>
> On this day, the Yaks were doing formation flying out by Valley
> Center, and then down the coast over Del Mar. Gary and Witter were
> piloting two-seat Yak-52s, and Bruce Merrifield was behind the controls
> of a four-seater, a Yak-18.
>
> Baker had been up with them earlier, in another Yak-52, but something
> was wrong now with the air-pressure system that controls the brakes and
> the landing gear. He was waiting to call Vladimir Yastremski, a mechanic
> from Ramona, to help him fix it.
>
> Bit by the flying bug early, Baker grew up near an airport. He said
> his mother remembers him standing outside in his diaper, pointing up at
> the planes going by.
>
> As a teen, he washed planes and did other chores at the airport =96
> not for cash, but for plane rides. He learned to fly when he was 15.
>
> Baker flew helicopters and planes in the Army, then joined United
> Airlines, where he was a pilot for 36 years. When he retired last year,
> he was flying behemoths, 747-400s, on runs from Los Angeles to Sydney
> and Singapore.
>
> Even as he flew huge commercial jets, Baker kept an interest in
> smaller planes by building and flying them. Last summer, he was in the
> news when he piloted a replica of Charles Lindbergh's 1927 plane, the
> Spirit of St. Louis, into Lindbergh Field as part of the airport's 75th
> anniversary.
>
> As he moved through various aviation circles, Baker occasionally heard
> good things about the Yak-52, first introduced in the late 1970s and
> named for the aircraft designer Alexander S. Yakovlev.
>
> About four years ago, as the Soviet Union splintered, "a light dawned
> in our heads that this cool little plane might be available." He had
> never flown one, but he and the Yak Flying Association bought two
> anyway.
>
> The planes =96 one built in 1985, the other in 1986 =96 were
> overhauled in Kazakhstan, taken apart and shipped in crates to America,
> then reassembled at Palomar. Baker eventually helped bring four other
> Soviet planes to America for other buyers.
>
> What he likes most about the Yak-52 is its sensitive controls.
> "Anything you're brave enough to try, the plane is willing to do," he
> said.
>
> That means spins, rolls and other aerobatics. When All Red Star
> members gather next month for their annual convention in Merced, they
> will engage in mock combat.
>
> "It is our own little fantasy fighter," Baker said, closest in feel
> =96 in the marriage of man and machine =96 to World War II-era planes.
>
> "We're playing the games that we used to play in the military. And
> there's nobody that we have to stand in front of and salute."
>
>
> oA==
>
> oA==
>
>
> The pilots said they bought the Soviet planes chiefly because of their
> low cost and availability, compared with American counterparts. Baker
> estimated that the Yak Flying Association has about $70,000 invested in
> each of its two silver 52s.
>
> "It was the most military airplane we could get for the money," said
> Witter, who flew in the Air Force before joining American Airlines. He
> retired in 1995 after 30 years with the company.
>
> Since buying the planes, the association has twice brought Soviet
> stunt pilots to this country to show them what the plane is capable of
> doing. Quite a lot, they said.
>
> Designed as a instructional plane, the 52 is easy to fly and
> surprisingly versatile, they said. In the Soviet Union, pilots
> typically started in that plane, then moved onto other aircraft as
> their training progressed.
>
> Sitting in the plane for the first time, it can be disconcerting to
> see dials and instructions with Cyrillic lettering. (To qualify for use
> in this country, some of the gauges have been switched to conform with
> aviation standards here.) But any confusion quickly gives way to
> something else, according to Witter.
>
> "After you've flown this thing, when you get back down, you have this
> exhilaration that is a feeling unlike any other. It's a feeling of
> freedom, accomplishment and control. You are absolutely controlling
> this machine."
>
> There is, however, one crucial limitation. The plane only holds enough
>
> fuel for about two hours of flying. Witter said the Yak was built that
> way to discourage budding Soviet pilots from defecting with their
> aircraft.
>
> Then the Cold War ended, and it was the planes that defected. Barry
> Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004
> (949) 300-5510
> www.allredstar.com
> "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden@generalequip.com>
Is there a current source for a good drain kit for the Housai? I know
how to put one together for my engine, but before I proceed, I thought
I'd see what is available and how much it costs. And, try not to
reinvent the wheel. Thanks.
Dennis Von Ruden
dvonruden@generalequip.com
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| Subject: | Re: Way to go, guys! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
DaBear wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
>
> While that may or may not be the case (prevent defecting), relying upon
> "offical statements" doesn't equate to validity. I'm sure the communist
> government would state that they did that because of training issues, not
> defection, as they had no citizen that wanted to defect. Also their form of
> government was obviously superior to any other, etc. etc. etc.
And then there is Occam's Razor that says the simplest explanation is usually the
right one. When designing an aerobatic aircraft where hops are likely to be
near the airport and where weight and structural loading are issues, reducing
fuel capacity is likely to be a convenient solution. And once they learned
to fly they could always defect in something with longer legs so ...
And given the size of the old Sovunion they couldn't have defected from most of
it if they had 30 hours of fuel. :
)
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http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Who is the financial dude for RPA? I need to verify whether I renewed twice this
year. Also I need to find out who is the person in charge of sending out FAST
cards.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Ernie,
Sounds fair to me don't you have multiple aircraft ;)))
Gus
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: RPA membership
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Who is the financial dude for RPA? I need to verify whether I renewed twice
this year. Also I need to find out who is the person in charge of sending
out FAST cards.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Generator Warning Light ON in flight |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <HEAYSR@telus.net>
Wes,
No problem. It was a good learning experience and a necessary part of
the process of elimination.
I poked around pretty hard at those big wires you mentioned but all
seemed OK.
I even loosened one off to see if a break was hidden by the washer.
Will keep trying other solutions.
Regards
Royden
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wes Warner
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Generator Warning Light ON in flight
--> Yak-List message posted by: Wes Warner <ufo@outerlimits.org>
Royden,
Sorry for making you go through all that for nothing.. Just be
sure you physically try to move the wires to test for breaks. I didn't
know one of them was broken till I pushed on it.
Wes
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 10:56:38PM -0700, Royden Heays wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <HEAYSR@telus.net>
>
> Wes,
>
> Armed with your good tips, the grey box is now out. Can't find
> anything cracked or broken in there. As Mark suggests, it looks like a
> replacement regulator might be necessary (DMP200 unit). Then the grey
> box has to go back in - horrors!
>
> Many thanks for guidance,
>
> Royden
>
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