---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/21/04: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:18 AM - Type Certification (Ira Saligman) 2. 06:38 AM - Re: Type Certification (cjpilot710@aol.com) 3. 08:12 AM - Re: Type Certification (Richard Basiliere) 4. 08:14 AM - Yak-52M (Richard Goode) 5. 08:19 AM - Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (James Enkema) 6. 09:48 AM - Re: [yakclub] Yak-52M (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd) 7. 10:57 AM - Re: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G) 8. 11:01 AM - Re: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (B.Reade Genzlinger) 9. 02:36 PM - Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? (Mark Schrick) 10. 05:26 PM - Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? (Mark Schrick) 11. 06:09 PM - Re: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (A. Dennis Savarese) 12. 06:13 PM - Re: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (A. Dennis Savarese) 13. 06:25 PM - Re: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? (cjpilot710@aol.com) 14. 06:38 PM - American Voltage Regulator (Steve & Donna Hanshew) 15. 06:38 PM - Russian Bear (Gus Fraser) 16. 06:40 PM - Re: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting (Gus Fraser) 17. 06:55 PM - Re: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? (Mark Schrick) 18. 07:25 PM - Re: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? (Gus Fraser) 19. 07:32 PM - Re: American Voltage Regulator (Doug Sapp) 20. 08:34 PM - SunnFun Debrief () 21. 10:44 PM - Re: American Voltage Regulator (Jim Selby) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:01 AM PST US From: "Ira Saligman" Subject: Yak-List: Type Certification --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" Does anyone have any experience in getting an aircraft Type Certified, so that it can carry passengers for hire, etc. Ira Saligman 610 324 5500 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:02 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Type Certification --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2004 9:18:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ira.Saligman@verizon.net writes: > Does anyone have any experience in getting an aircraft Type Certified, so > that it can carry passengers for hire, etc. > > Ira Saligman > 610 324 5500 > > > Got a trillion dollars? Just make your instructions fees very, very high. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:10 AM PST US From: "Richard Basiliere" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Type Certification --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" Folks, I think there is a letter or something to fill out from the EAA that will allow you to instruct in an Experimental/Exhibition airplane. So, check with the EAA. Regards, Rick >>> cjpilot710@aol.com 4/21/2004 7:37:48 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2004 9:18:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ira.Saligman@verizon.net writes: > Does anyone have any experience in getting an aircraft Type Certified, so > that it can carry passengers for hire, etc. > > Ira Saligman > 610 324 5500 > > > Got a trillion dollars? Just make your instructions fees very, very high. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:59 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" "Yak USA List" Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52M --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" UK and USA Yak Club Yak-52M I have just returned from Moscow, and believe this project is definitely going ahead. New aircraft will be made from carefully selected old airframes; totally rebuilt; 216-litres total of fuel - with completely new "wet" wings; with Zvesda extraction systems - some delay since they need left and right-hand actuating ones, not currently made. Also an automatic time separation between the two to avoid the two shoots tangling. Not sure which cockpit gets priority! 100-kilograms weight penalty (220lbs), but performance wise no difference with 3-blade prop. First aircraft was flown in early April. Best regards Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:12 AM PST US From: "James Enkema" Subject: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" Two questions...My 1989 YAK in hot weather and cool nights will push fuel overboard and start a siphon. The rest you know. I keep the cap cracked open. This only happens on the left wing tank. I have taken the vents out and have run safety wire up the one that comes out the belly. My 1991 YAK52 has an additional vent at the top of the tank and I do not seem to have the problem. Was this a fix? Behind door #2 Question: In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency tank. opps I thought of one more. I have removed the aux air fitting from the planes and tapped 1/8" NPT and put a standard JIC fitting. When I remove the fitting then I put a plug in so if the check valve is leaking. Surely someone has come up with a better solution than this. HELP! I use a large air tank from local air products supplier and an oxygen regulator to regulate the air into the plane plus I had a difficult time finding fittings to get from air tank to 1/4" JIC...they really don't want you bypassing a regulator. Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity Thanks Jim Enkema Jim Enkema 423-773-3398 TN Mobile 843-206-3398 SC Mobile ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:52 AM PST US From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" Subject: Yak-List: Re: [yakclub] Yak-52M --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" I believe the RAF gives a "command" to the back seat, selectable from the front seat also the front man has the option of going before rear man, in this case one would assume a delay is instigated. Rear seat command is so that navigator/ instructor can get a pilot out in event of bird strike and pilot in capacitated. Perhaps some RAF/ USAF pilots may comment? An interesting thing in this "upgrade" from (http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_52M.php#general ) is that the life is now 30 years and 3000 hours in addition to a max T/O weight of 1423kgs at 6G. With our long range fuel we manage 280 lts and still keep inside 1415kgs 2 persons full fuel. BR, mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Goode Subject: [yakclub] Yak-52M UK and USA Yak Club Yak-52M I have just returned from Moscow, and believe this project is definitely going ahead. New aircraft will be made from carefully selected old airframes; totally rebuilt; 216-litres total of fuel - with completely new "wet" wings; with Zvesda extraction systems - some delay since they need left and right-hand actuating ones, not currently made. Also an automatic time separation between the two to avoid the two shoots tangling. Not sure which cockpit gets priority! 100-kilograms weight penalty (220lbs), but performance wise no difference with 3-blade prop. First aircraft was flown in early April. Best regards Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yakclub/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: yakclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:08 AM PST US From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G Door #2: The YAK-50 fills both tanks from the engine compressor (Note to a emergency bottle on the 52, you must fill from the external air filling port. Good question as to why, although it may be to try and keep any moisture out of the emergency tank/bottle. Regardless, since all the 50's do it, it would be hard to imagine why a person could not plumb the 52's to do it as well? Flames welcomed, I'd be interested in educated reasons why NOT to do so. The external air filler fitting for the Yak is the same as the Sukhoi and is still in production. It is not very hard to get one. The only trick is making an "American" hose fitting to mate to it. The Russian fitting uses a standard 37 degree flare, so it is pretty easy to take a standard Russian size aluminum line (with connectors and flares at both ends) and cut one end off, reflare it, and put a standard #5 American fitting on that end, VOILA: American to Russian adapter. To me, this seems much easier than changing the fitting on the aircraft. I know you should use those really nice (and expensive) dual air gages on a bottle, but most people I know... including yours truly, just run a line right from a big ole nitrogen bottle (filled with compressed AIR) or a scuba tank,.... slowly crack the valve while watching the cockpit air gage, and rely on the aircraft's internal over-pressure pop-off valve to work properly if one goes a tad over 50 Atmospheres (735 PSI). Actually I think you may mean you have 55 Atmospheres on the main and 35 on the emergency. The Russian gage leaves off the training "0". Thus you have 514 PSI on the backup bottle. This is plenty of air to lower the gear in a NORMAL situation. The gear actuators on the 52 are not the same as on a 50, but I BELIEVE (not sure) that the feed restrictor system is the same. Thus, when you open the valve for the emergency system, you feed unrestricted full bottle pressure straight to the gear actuators. Normally... at least in the 50, the air goes through restrictors (a "washer" with a very small hole in it located at the actuator air fitting(s). This helps to controls the speed of the gear going up and down. With unrestricted air, 735 PSI would be enough to lower the gear even if the internal seals were torn to pieces.... probably. So, "how much air you need" in the emergency bottle is a function of: "Just what went wrong to begin with". I'd suggest keeping the emergency bottle at 50 Atmospheres. r/s, Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: James Enkema [mailto:lennoxlimited@earthlink.net] Subject: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" Two questions...My 1989 YAK in hot weather and cool nights will push fuel overboard and start a siphon. The rest you know. I keep the cap cracked open. This only happens on the left wing tank. I have taken the vents out and have run safety wire up the one that comes out the belly. My 1991 YAK52 has an additional vent at the top of the tank and I do not seem to have the problem. Was this a fix? Behind door #2 Question: In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency tank. opps I thought of one more. I have removed the aux air fitting from the planes and tapped 1/8" NPT and put a standard JIC fitting. When I remove the fitting then I put a plug in so if the check valve is leaking. Surely someone has come up with a better solution than this. HELP! I use a large air tank from local air products supplier and an oxygen regulator to regulate the air into the plane plus I had a difficult time finding fittings to get from air tank to 1/4" JIC...they really don't want you bypassing a regulator. Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity Thanks Jim Enkema Jim Enkema 423-773-3398 TN Mobile 843-206-3398 SC Mobile ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:50 AM PST US From: "B.Reade Genzlinger" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "B.Reade Genzlinger" > > Behind door #2 Question: > > In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency tank. The only way to charge the emergency bottle is via the ground service port. The emergency system is not connected to the compressor and only operates the landing gear and brakes. > > Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity Gena Elfimov is planning to be at Doylestown Airport (DYL) possibly July or Sept. as of the last email I've seen. You can contact him directly via his website at skytrace.co.uk. Open to anyone interested in first class instruction using the DOSAAF sylabus. > > Thanks > Jim Enkema > Jim Enkema > 423-773-3398 TN Mobile > 843-206-3398 SC Mobile > > > > > > Reade ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:30 PM PST US From: "Mark Schrick" Subject: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" I understand some models were wearing half shirts and not much else > with Yak stuff on the front. > > > Did anyone see them? What did the shirts say? Or do we care? I understand they were all over YAK's and Yak 9U's. > > > Were they part of the Redstar Group? > > > I got calls about them but know very little. > > > Inquiring minds want to know!!!! > > > Mark ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:20 PM PST US From: "Mark Schrick" Subject: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" Did George bring them or does he have a fan club? Any pictures of the girls? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Petri David S Contractor USNORTHCOM J3 [mailto:David.Petri@northcom.mil] Subject: RE: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Well, Mark, they did have shorts on. Cut-off shirts, YES. The back had "GESOCO Industries" on them and I didn't pay much attention to what was written on the front. I think something like "Wanna Yak?", but I was distracted. Cheers, Dave Hey Gang, I understand some models were wearing half shirts and not much else with Yak stuff on the front. Did anyone see them? What did the shirts say? Or do we care? I understand they were all over YAK's and Yak 9U's. Were they part of the Redstar Group? I got calls about them but know very little. Inquiring minds want to know!!!! > Mark ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:18 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" The answer is quite logical. Isolating the emergency system from the main prevents potential loss of both air systems should a leak occur. Yes, it could be plumbed, but why? If the emergency system is secure, it should not leak down regardless of what the main system does. That does not apply to the 50. There really is only 3 items that can leak in the emergency system, assuming the valves are closed. 1- The B nut on the tank or the tank itself of course; 2-The check valve that connects to the external air fill port; 3- Either one of the valves or B nuts coming to the valves from the emergency air tank,in the cockpits. Personally, I think the 52's system is more secure and provides effective redundancy versus the 50's system for the reason mentioned above. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G > > Door #2: The YAK-50 fills both tanks from the engine compressor (Note to a > emergency bottle on the 52, you must fill from the external air filling > port. Good question as to why, although it may be to try and keep any > moisture out of the emergency tank/bottle. Regardless, since all the 50's > do it, it would be hard to imagine why a person could not plumb the 52's to > do it as well? Flames welcomed, I'd be interested in educated reasons why > NOT to do so. > > The external air filler fitting for the Yak is the same as the Sukhoi and is > still in production. It is not very hard to get one. The only trick is > making an "American" hose fitting to mate to it. The Russian fitting uses a > standard 37 degree flare, so it is pretty easy to take a standard Russian > size aluminum line (with connectors and flares at both ends) and cut one end > off, reflare it, and put a standard #5 American fitting on that end, VOILA: > American to Russian adapter. To me, this seems much easier than changing the > fitting on the aircraft. > > I know you should use those really nice (and expensive) dual air gages on a > bottle, but most people I know... including yours truly, just run a line > right from a big ole nitrogen bottle (filled with compressed AIR) or a scuba > tank,.... slowly crack the valve while watching the cockpit air gage, and > rely on the aircraft's internal over-pressure pop-off valve to work properly > if one goes a tad over 50 Atmospheres (735 PSI). > > Actually I think you may mean you have 55 Atmospheres on the main and 35 on > the emergency. The Russian gage leaves off the training "0". Thus you have > 514 PSI on the backup bottle. This is plenty of air to lower the gear in a > NORMAL situation. The gear actuators on the 52 are not the same as on a 50, > but I BELIEVE (not sure) that the feed restrictor system is the same. Thus, > when you open the valve for the emergency system, you feed unrestricted full > bottle pressure straight to the gear actuators. Normally... at least in the > 50, the air goes through restrictors (a "washer" with a very small hole in > it located at the actuator air fitting(s). This helps to controls the speed > of the gear going up and down. With unrestricted air, 735 PSI would be > enough to lower the gear even if the internal seals were torn to pieces.... > probably. So, "how much air you need" in the emergency bottle is a function > of: "Just what went wrong to begin with". I'd suggest keeping the emergency > bottle at 50 Atmospheres. > > r/s, > > Mark Bitterlich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Enkema [mailto:lennoxlimited@earthlink.net] > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" > > Two questions...My 1989 YAK in hot weather and cool nights will push fuel > overboard and start a siphon. The rest you know. I keep the cap cracked > open. This only happens on the left wing tank. I have taken the vents out > and have run safety wire up the one that comes out the belly. My 1991 YAK52 > has an additional vent at the top of the tank and I do not seem to have the > problem. Was this a fix? > > Behind door #2 Question: > > In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. > I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do > this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the > compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency > tank. > > opps I thought of one more. I have removed the aux air fitting from the > planes and tapped 1/8" NPT and put a standard JIC fitting. When I remove > the fitting then I put a plug in so if the check valve is leaking. Surely > someone has come up with a better solution than this. HELP! I use a large > air tank from local air products supplier and an oxygen regulator to > regulate the air into the plane plus I had a difficult time finding fittings > to get from air tank to 1/4" JIC...they really don't want you bypassing a > regulator. > > Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that > will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an > opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific > organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving > instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some > contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity > > Thanks > Jim Enkema > Jim Enkema > 423-773-3398 TN Mobile > 843-206-3398 SC Mobile > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:14 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Answers 1- Yes 2- No 3- Install a 1/4" NPT Schrader Valve with a high pressure valve core directly on the round cap. About $6 worth of parts. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Enkema" Subject: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting > --> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" > > Two questions...My 1989 YAK in hot weather and cool nights will push fuel overboard and start a siphon. The rest you know. I keep the cap cracked open. This only happens on the left wing tank. I have taken the vents out and have run safety wire up the one that comes out the belly. My 1991 YAK52 has an additional vent at the top of the tank and I do not seem to have the problem. Was this a fix? > > Behind door #2 Question: > > In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency tank. > > opps I thought of one more. I have removed the aux air fitting from the planes and tapped 1/8" NPT and put a standard JIC fitting. When I remove the fitting then I put a plug in so if the check valve is leaking. Surely someone has come up with a better solution than this. HELP! I use a large air tank from local air products supplier and an oxygen regulator to regulate the air into the plane plus I had a difficult time finding fittings to get from air tank to 1/4" JIC...they really don't want you bypassing a regulator. > > Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity > > Thanks > Jim Enkema > Jim Enkema > 423-773-3398 TN Mobile > 843-206-3398 SC Mobile > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:59 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:37:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, schrick@pacbell.net writes: > I understand some models were wearing half shirts and not much else > >with Yak stuff on the front. > > > > > >Did anyone see them? What did the shirts say? Who cares! But "Yak" was written on the front, - - - - I think. Or do we care? > > I understand they were all over YAK's and Yak 9U's. > > There was something written on them, but with their undulating surfaces, I couldn't read it fast enough. I move my lips a lot. > > > >Were they part of the Redstar Group? > > They definitely weren't with us! > > > >I got calls about them but know very little. > > I tried to catch up with them but was side tracked by a scaled down (80%) all metal Spitfire. After all one must have priorities. > > > >Inquiring minds want to know!!!! > > > > > >Mark > > > Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:35 PM PST US From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" Subject: Yak-List: American Voltage Regulator --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" I am looking for the American replacement for the voltage regulator for the CJ, i.e., make, distributor. Any help is much appreciated. Steve Bill Hanshew ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:54 PM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: Yak-List: Russian Bear --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Folks http://gusfraser.com Embryonic site, points to note I have put up the ACM presentation which I have been working on with Bob 'Mouse' Shaw Also there is a short video clip under "Addicted to Yaks" I will post details of the mods I have made, sorry If I missed someone off the links but I think I got the main ones. I will put a web version of the weight and balance spreadsheet that I did for Mark on the site any day now. Gus ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:14 PM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" This is what I have fitted and it works great. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese Subject: Re: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Answers 1- Yes 2- No 3- Install a 1/4" NPT Schrader Valve with a high pressure valve core directly on the round cap. About $6 worth of parts. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Enkema" Subject: Yak-List: Emergency tank YAK 52 and aux air fitting > --> Yak-List message posted by: "James Enkema" > > Two questions...My 1989 YAK in hot weather and cool nights will push fuel overboard and start a siphon. The rest you know. I keep the cap cracked open. This only happens on the left wing tank. I have taken the vents out and have run safety wire up the one that comes out the belly. My 1991 YAK52 has an additional vent at the top of the tank and I do not seem to have the problem. Was this a fix? > > Behind door #2 Question: > > In flight the main bottle recharges but the small emergency tank does not. I know in the past I have filled from the aux air port and I only need to do this about every two years. Should the small tank charge from the compressor? I have 5.5 atmospheres on main and 3.5 currently on emergency tank. > > opps I thought of one more. I have removed the aux air fitting from the planes and tapped 1/8" NPT and put a standard JIC fitting. When I remove the fitting then I put a plug in so if the check valve is leaking. Surely someone has come up with a better solution than this. HELP! I use a large air tank from local air products supplier and an oxygen regulator to regulate the air into the plane plus I had a difficult time finding fittings to get from air tank to 1/4" JIC...they really don't want you bypassing a regulator. > > Well as I write I think of one more thing. This Russian instructor that will be in Penn. Please someone give me particulars. Is this an opportunity for any YAK driver or do you need to be apart of a specific organization? What is the identifier of the field he will be giving instruction so I can see how far from SC that would be. Please give me some contact info. I do not want to miss the opportunity > > Thanks > Jim Enkema > Jim Enkema > 423-773-3398 TN Mobile > 843-206-3398 SC Mobile > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:01 PM PST US From: "Mark Schrick" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" Goolsby wrote: Who cares! But "Yak" was written on the front, - - - - I think. Or do we care? If it brings attention to us as a group and has a positive spin to it....Bring them on!!!! Its better than getting lost over airshow front......... I was getting a few calls asking if I knew anything about them. Just trying to better understand what was going on at SnF and now I find that we have "YAK GROUPIES!!!!" God Bless them (as long as they are pretty) Maybe we need Yak groupies at REDSTAR....... ******************************************************************** Mark Schrick -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:37:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, schrick@pacbell.net writes: > I understand some models were wearing half shirts and not much else > >with Yak stuff on the front. > > > > > >Did anyone see them? What did the shirts say? Who cares! But "Yak" was written on the front, - - - - I think. Or do we care? > > I understand they were all over YAK's and Yak 9U's. > > There was something written on them, but with their undulating surfaces, I couldn't read it fast enough. I move my lips a lot. > > > >Were they part of the Redstar Group? > > They definitely weren't with us! > > > >I got calls about them but know very little. > > I tried to catch up with them but was side tracked by a scaled down (80%) all metal Spitfire. After all one must have priorities. > > > >Inquiring minds want to know!!!! > > > > > >Mark > > > Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:33 PM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" As far as good press goes I have been working on getting Gennady to be able to perform at OSH. Unfortunately he is not able to perform this year but next year he is on the list. Now I just need to figure out how to get him a zero ft card without performing in the US. He has a card in the UK and does enough in England to stay current. My question to the group is "What do other performers from abroad do when they want to perform in the US ?" What is really nuts here is that waiver cards are issued by ICAS. The International part of the name would lead you to think that having an ICAS card would allow you to perform Internationally, lokks like another thing like the World Series, which is only played in the US. Imagine the slack jaws on the faces of the yellow jacket T34s when a Yak 52 flys backwards under control :)))))))))) Lets see them do that and still have the same number of wings as when they started. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schrick" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" > > Goolsby wrote: > Who cares! But "Yak" was written on the front, - - - - I think. > Or do we care? > > If it brings attention to us as a group and has a positive spin to it....Bring > them on!!!! Its better than getting lost over airshow front......... > > I was getting a few calls asking if I knew anything about them. Just trying to > better understand what was going on at SnF and now I find that we have "YAK > GROUPIES!!!!" God Bless them (as long as they are pretty) > > Maybe we need Yak groupies at REDSTAR....... > > ******************************************************************** > Mark Schrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Did anyone see the YAK GIRLS at Sun-n-FUN???? > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/21/2004 5:37:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > schrick@pacbell.net writes: > > > I understand some models were wearing half shirts and not much else > > >with Yak stuff on the front. > > > > > > > > >Did anyone see them? What did the shirts say? > > > Who cares! But "Yak" was written on the front, - - - - I think. > > Or do we care? > > > > I understand they were all over YAK's and Yak 9U's. > > > > > There was something written on them, but with their undulating surfaces, I > couldn't read it fast enough. I move my lips a lot. > > > > > > > >Were they part of the Redstar Group? > > > > > They definitely weren't with us! > > > > > > > >I got calls about them but know very little. > > > > > > I tried to catch up with them but was side tracked by a scaled down (80%) all > metal Spitfire. After all one must have priorities. > > > > > > >Inquiring minds want to know!!!! > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > > > Jim Goolsby > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > "With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes > until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:39 PM PST US From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: American Voltage Regulator --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" My man, if you find one share the info, I have spent over (is my wife listening?) well a lot trying to solve that question. I gave up and bought a B&C. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve & Donna Hanshew Subject: Yak-List: American Voltage Regulator --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" I am looking for the American replacement for the voltage regulator for the CJ, i.e., make, distributor. Any help is much appreciated. Steve Bill Hanshew ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:47 PM PST US From: Subject: Yak-List: SunnFun Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: Folks, I wanted to post this a few days ago after returning from our RPA event at Winterhaven/SunnFun. As most know, we had a potentially dangerous and somewhat embarrassing event take place when a wingman became lost during recovery of our warbird formation at lakeland. It's significant to note this pilot opted not to train with the RPA and instead parked at Lakeland, his involvement in our training and prep for SunnFun was nil (this is addressed later). After looking at the situation, this fact was a contributing factor to the incident. Other factors ranged from miss-programmed GPS to missed communictions. We also had a pilot apparently participate in the Sun n Fun airshow formation in waivered airspace without FAST card qualification. It's important to note that apparently, this pilot participated in this formation event while the RPA was attending the Leeward fly-in. I have no idea if this pilot is a member of the RPA at this time. But I want to point out his affiliation matters little; his actions, based on his eastern block military trainer aircraft type, and implied affiliation with the RPA and it's membership, results in a minor black-eye for the association. The RPA attends these large events just as NATA and the other associations do. The pilots represent their association, as the association represents the pilots; the two are one in the same during these events. In both situations, it is apparent we need to emphasize the requirement to train together and stay together. Towards that end, the RPA will not allow any pilot to participate in the associations sponsored mass formations at public events (SunnFun, Osh, etc.) who do not participate in the associations planned training / prep events/sorties regardless of prior experience. We realize flying to a remote base for training as we do at MTW may be seen as an inconvenience, and if this is the case, the RPA can always use a ground spotter/video operator at the airshow to help collect debrief footage/data. The RPA continues to emphasize that all pilots attending RPA events carries onboard the "Airshow Kit", a collection of documents that are identical to, and meet all inspection criteria outlined in Order 8700 by the FAA event inspector. For more information on the Airshow Kit contents, see the event rtegistration page at www.flyredstar.org We are eliminating basic FAST training from our OSH and Sun-n-Fun remote field events to concentrate on Mass Formation training and associated RPA social events. Before I start receiving hate mail on this, let me explain. The Regional Coordinators (RC) are responsible for assisting their regional membership in planning, organizing, staffing and advertising regional RPA clinics and fly-ins. If your local group has a significant need for a FAST clinic and need support getting it off the ground, please write your RC, their e-mails are listed on on the website (www.flyredstar.org). The RC is a coordinator; the events don't happen without a motivated host and organizing team - please volunteer! The RC will work with their membership and help us determine the best locations and dates to support regional training needs. We are working on a mass formation program and presentation, the issue of the lost wingman revealed lessons that will be included in this training. If you haven't, log in to the new RPA website and take a look at event debriefing for post clinic pictures... If you would like to comment, e-mail me directly. I will also post this on the "RPA Forums" which can be reached from the web site. +++++++++ fly safe - and often! Drew Drew Blahnick RPA President www.flyredstar.org ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:55 PM PST US From: "Jim Selby" Subject: RE: Yak-List: American Voltage Regulator --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" Steve I have it some Place will try to find it tomorrow. Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve & Donna Hanshew Subject: Yak-List: American Voltage Regulator --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" I am looking for the American replacement for the voltage regulator for the CJ, i.e., make, distributor. Any help is much appreciated. Steve Bill Hanshew --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ---