Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 04/25/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:04 AM - RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered ()
     2. 06:35 AM - RPA Online Store ()
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Low Oil Pressure (Jorgen Nielsen)
     4. 07:06 AM - Re: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered (Brian Lloyd)
     5. 07:20 AM - Yaks and CJs in Nigeria (Brian Lloyd)
     6. 08:36 AM - speed (Jerry Painter)
     7. 08:37 AM - speed (Jerry Painter)
     8. 08:48 AM - speed (Jerry Painter)
     9. 11:30 AM - RPA "From the Cockpit" update ()
    10. 02:45 PM - Yaks and CJ's in Nigeria (cpayne@joimail.com)
    11. 03:24 PM - Re: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered (yak52)
    12. 04:23 PM - Re: RPA Online Store (Ernie)
    13. 04:24 PM - Re: RPA Online Store (Ernie)
    14. 04:36 PM - Taxi Lights (Ernie)
    15. 04:57 PM - Re: RPA Online Store (yak52)
    16. 06:52 PM - The Yakinator LIVES! (Frank Haertlein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:39 AM PST US
    From: <aapilot@adelphia.net>
    Subject: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Folks, The Forum platform, although linked from the RPA website as well as at www.rpatalk.com, is of course free & open to all folks, regardless of membership in the association. With that, all pilots, RPA members or not, need only to make a free account (register an ID and Password) by selecting "Create a new account" below the login screen. Select "Auto Login" and when you revisit the forums, your already logged in. RPA members: Use your same Member ID and Password; one less thing to write down or remember! These are un-moderated forums, so this seperate login account is just to have the capability to bounce outsiders from the community that attempt to hoaks such discussion groups, as we've seen here in the past. The forums allow members to see who's online, and if you fill out your profile, folks can see whatever information you would like them to know about you (aircraft flown, A&P experience, Guiness record holder for time spent eating at Hooters, etc.)... Now that I've said that, if you are an RPA member, create your forum account using the same member ID and Password if you like, one less thing to forget. Deon is going to make, in the near future, RPA membership registration auto register you in the forums using your RPA ID/Password on record. Hope this helps, Drew


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    Time: 06:35:12 AM PST US
    From: <aapilot@adelphia.net>
    Subject: RPA Online Store
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Folks, I had some examples of official RedStar Pilots Association merchandise available at Sun n Fun and I was glad to see it was welcomed like elk meat to a pack of wolves. Deon the web manager and I are working on the final issues with the RPA Online Store: It will open soon (announced here) and start with paypal, but will very soon after include online secure credit card merchant services, just as you see at say, Amazon. Countless hours went in to art design and product development, funds generated will grow the scope of your association (and provide operating capital to design and order more products for the gang, it's a vicious cycle)some things you will find: Official RPA Hangar Flags: You've got your Chinese or CCCP flag hanging over the warbird, some folks might think you've gone to the reds! Display the RPA flag; the design includes a patriotic theme and is an eye catcher sure to spark conversations from complete strangers...especially if you ask for the optional "Non PC" version with Ivana, the RPAs' female Soviet airman mascot in CCCP uniform... RPA Logo Stickers: Old squadron tradition, have a roll of these babies on hand in the helmet bag and leave the RPA Shield at your favorite airport watering hole, FBO, etc. Patches on patches...RPA logo member, FAST, Aircraft specific, etc... Flying scarves... RPA Winged Name Tags (AF vets can select AF style wings, Navy vets gold navy style wings, civil background RPAers either one or send me your suggestion via "Ask & Answer" at www.rpatalk.com !) RPA logo pitot covers unlike anything you've ever seen... Hats, shirts, polos, aviator turtle necks... Stay tuned... Drew Drew Blahnick RedStar Pilots Association www.flyredstar.org


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    Time: 06:46:50 AM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Low Oil Pressure
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> Hi Mike Couple further questions: What is your email? You can reply off list. How many hours on engine? I had similar problem, same symptons. Mine would drop during aeros mainly, typically when negative. 2 things to check first: The regulator. Mine had built up a ridge of metal on the cone. Changing this cured the problem. On the rhs, cut the safety wire, and remove the entire regulator assembly. (Cap, spring, piston, adjustor). If worn, replace or presumably one may get it re-machined to spec. Other item to check is the oil tank, that there is no foreign object inside (the famous, poorly designed engen oil cap where the plastic ring falls into the tank). You can drain then remove the big cover on the front and stick your hand in. I flushed mine out with avgas. There is also possibility that the rotating, multi jointed oil pick up is snagging, either due to crap in the tank or because the tank is dented. But I would check the regulator first, esp. because you dropped pressure during taxi the one time. Prop rpm being constant is misleading, there is separate pump supplying higher pressure oil to the governor. Regards Jorgen ZU-AMC -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Subject: Yak-List: Low Oil Pressure --> Yak-List message posted by: Hi all I'm looking for some advice on an oil pressure problem on my Yak-52. Shortly after I got the aircraft last year, I had an incident where the oil pressure dropped during flight. I was fairly close to my home base, so I returned there as quickly as possible. The oil level was about 9 litres. I filled up to 12 litres, and the oil pressure seemed fine. On a few subsequent flights the oil pressure has dropped for a few minutes, and then returned to normal. Last week I was out practicing some aeros. The oil pressure was normal at start, and remained in the 4-5 kg/sq cm range until the end of the sortie. My last exercise was a one-turn spin. After recovery, the oil pressure had dropped right down to about 1 kg/sq cm. I check the pressure and temp prior to the start of each sequence, so this was a sudden drop during the exercise. I returned to the field immeditaely. Oil level was 9 litres. This morning I refilled to 12 litres. At startup the oil pressure was fine, going up to 5 kg/sq cm. However, as the engine warmed the oil pressure dropped. By the time I was at holding point, it had dropped to zero. I taxied back, and the oil pressure climbed back to 3 kg/sq cm drung taxi. I shut down, and checked oil level. The level was still at 12 litres. The only odd thing was that the oil appeared to have some form of froth / bubbles, visible on the dipstick. In the in-flight incidents the prop RPM has remained constant, and the oil temp has remained constant. From what I can make out, it appears that this could be due to the vent pipe clogging. Does anyone have any suggestions of other potential problems? If it is the vent pipe, what is the easiest way to clean the pipe? Blue skies Mike Beresford ZU-CWO South Africa your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 07:06:53 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> aapilot@adelphia.net wrote: > These are un-moderated forums, so this seperate login account is just > to have the capability to bounce outsiders from the community that > attempt to hoaks such discussion groups, as we've seen here in the > past. The same will happen there. User/password is no deterrent for trolls. Matt has the same thing based on email address and the trolls still got in. At least he eyeballs each sign-up. I'm fairly busy. This forum is delivered to me and automatically filed in my yak-list folder. I can ask a question and get an answer. Sometimes it will be the right answer and it will usually spawn a heated discussion accompanied by name calling. I can be entertained by numerous friends, acquaintances, and adversaries without having to do anything. I can see what the other guys are doing in their necks of the woods. Having to go to a different site to actively seek that forum is a step I don't want to bother with. I am probably going to miss out on tons of really cool stuff but that's life. So, no, it doesn't strike me as being much of an advantage. OTOH, I think it would be a great thing for RPA to financially support Matronics using a bit of my membership dosh given how much value I (and others) have gotten from this well-established forum. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 07:20:18 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Yaks and CJs in Nigeria
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> Seems I am spending a lot of time in Nigeria these days. Are there any Yak/CJ fliers in Nigeria? I could use a flying buddy here. Heck, I will settle for a spam driver. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 08:36:20 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
    Subject: speed
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> Craig, Thanks for the photos. I've long thought the CJ cowling is a ripe area for cleanup. I've thought of moving the lower attachment points up on the firewall and then re-contouring the lower and aft portion of the cowl to make it fair more closely to the fuse sides and bottom. Might help with low head and oil temps, too. A large spinner and nose case fairing should help smooth and reduce inlet airflow, a la Rare Bear. I've also heard reports that removing the inlet vanes increases speed by as much as 15-20kph but at the cost of VERY low temps. See re-contouring above for better temps. You may have seen pics of an exhaust system (I think it may have been on Mike Filucci's airplane) that exited the sides of the cowling. Said to be very noisy. Something similar (tho probably not multi-pipes) exiting the side or bottom, along with some heat shielding, in conjunction with augmenter tubes and a close fitting cowling/fuse junction could result in further cleanup of the lower and aft cowling areas and help control temps. Don't really want to get into cowl exhaust flaps, but they are an obvious way to help cleanup airflow and control temps. For a while Fred Ihlenburg was advertising a nose gear/fairing mod that was supposed to entirely enclose the nosewheel in the fuselage, but I've never seen one or even pics. I assume you also carefully fit and seal all fairings, likewise the canopy and install gap seals where feasible? Us glider types are used to taping every nook, joint and cranny in the endless pursuit of L/G. Which reminds me--ever see any photos of AJ Smith's airplane? He took all kinds of races several years ago with incredible speeds on low horsepower and fixed gear, but I only ever saw one photo of his airplane and about all it showed was that it had a T-tail and bubble canopy. Another fellow (whose name escapes me--might have been Mike _____) built a little fixed gear airplane with a tiny engine (about 65hp--Rotax?--and under a round cowling as I recall) that got some incredible speeds (200mph?) by simply paying close attention to the details. Cheers and congrats, Jerry Painter


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    Time: 08:37:33 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
    Subject: speed
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> Craig, Thanks for the photos. I've long thought the CJ cowling is a ripe area for cleanup. I've thought of moving the lower attachment points up on the firewall and then re-contouring the lower and aft portion of the cowl to make it fair more closely to the fuse sides and bottom. Might help with low head and oil temps, too. A large spinner and nose case fairing should help smooth and reduce inlet airflow, a la Rare Bear. I've also heard reports that removing the inlet vanes increases speed by as much as 15-20kph but at the cost of VERY low temps. See re-contouring above for better temps. You may have seen pics of an exhaust system (I think it may have been on Mike Filucci's airplane) that exited the sides of the cowling. Said to be very noisy. Something similar (tho probably not multi-pipes) exiting the side or bottom, along with some heat shielding, in conjunction with augmenter tubes and a close fitting cowling/fuse junction could result in further cleanup of the lower and aft cowling areas and help control temps. Don't really want to get into cowl exhaust flaps, but they are an obvious way to help cleanup airflow and control temps. For a while Fred Ihlenburg was advertising a nose gear/fairing mod that was supposed to entirely enclose the nosewheel in the fuselage, but I've never seen one or even pics. I assume you also carefully fit and seal all fairings, likewise the canopy and install gap seals where feasible? Us glider types are used to taping every nook, joint and cranny in the endless pursuit of L/G. Which reminds me--ever see any photos of AJ Smith's airplane? He took all kinds of races several years ago with incredible speeds on low horsepower and fixed gear, but I only ever saw one photo of his airplane and about all it showed was that it had a T-tail and bubble canopy. Another fellow (whose name escapes me--might have been Mike _____) built a little fixed gear airplane with a tiny engine (about 65hp--Rotax?--and under a round cowling as I recall) that got some incredible speeds (200mph?) by simply paying close attention to the details. Cheers and congrats, Jerry Painter


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    Time: 08:48:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
    Subject: speed
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> Craig, Thanks for the photos. I've long thought the CJ cowling is a ripe area for cleanup. I've thought of moving the lower attachment points up on the firewall and then re-contouring the lower and aft portion of the cowl to make it fair closely to the fuse sides and bottom. Might help with low head and oil temps, too. A large spinner and nose case fairing should help smooth and reduce inlet airflow, a la Rare Bear. I've also heard reports that removing the inlet vanes increases speed by as much as 15-20kph but at the cost of VERY low temps. See re-contouring above for better temps. You may have seen pics of an exhaust system (I think it may have been on Mike Filucci's airplane) that exited the sides of the cowling. Said to be very noisy. Something similar (tho probably not multi-pipes) exiting the side or bottom, along with some stainless heat shielding, in conjunction with augmenter tubes and a close fitting cowling/fuse junction could result in further cleanup of the lower and aft cowling areas. For a while Fred Ihlenburg was advertising a nose gear/fairing mod that was supposed to entirely enclose the nosewheel in the fuselage, but I've never seen one or even pics. I assume you also carefully fit and seal all fairings, likewise the canopy and install gap seals where feasible? Us glider types are used to taping every nook, joint and cranny in the endless pursuit of L/G. Which reminds me--ever see any photos of AJ Smith's airplane? He took all kinds of races several years ago with incredible speeds on low horsepower and fixed gear, but I only ever saw one photo of his airplane and about all it showed was that it had a T-tail and bubble canopy. Another fellow (whose name escapes me--might have been Mike _____) built a little fixed gear airplane with a tiny engine (about 65hp--Rotax?--and under a round cowling as I recall) that got some incredible speeds by simply paying close attention to the details. Cheers, Jerry Painter


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    Time: 11:30:58 AM PST US
    From: <aapilot@adelphia.net>
    Subject: RPA "From the Cockpit" update
    --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Folks, As a communication tool, we are starting a bi-monthly human interest message from the association. Geared for the members, anyone can view the bi-monthly articles at www,flyredstar.org, select "From the Cockpit" on the lower left side menu. Good info on what's going on, past, present and future, Fly safe, Drew


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    Time: 02:45:47 PM PST US
    From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Yaks and CJ's in Nigeria
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> Brian, I know this guy from Nigeria who needs to keep his $25 million safe. I'm sure you have safe bank accounts down there in the Carib, so for a slight finders fee I'll have him transfer the money in your account and you can keep the interest. Just send me your account number/routing code and everyone will be happy.... Craig Payne


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    Time: 03:24:52 PM PST US
    From: "yak52" <yak52@jdlsolutions.com>
    Subject: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@jdlsolutions.com> First of all the forum is not there to replace this list, but rather for ongoing discussions on topics such as FAST or regional issues, etc. On Trolls: Actually the difference is just that - on an email list you just have to register with any email address and you can post. On a forum you have to give a valid email address to receive your password - at this point the system notifies me and I have to give permission before the guy can post. Even if he uses random hotmail accounts it is very easy to have software pick out these attempts. Also the Forum can email you when your discussion topic got a new post. Deon. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: RPA Talk Forums: Question Answered --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> aapilot@adelphia.net wrote: > These are un-moderated forums, so this seperate login account is just > to have the capability to bounce outsiders from the community that > attempt to hoaks such discussion groups, as we've seen here in the > past. The same will happen there. User/password is no deterrent for trolls. Matt has the same thing based on email address and the trolls still got in. At least he eyeballs each sign-up. I'm fairly busy. This forum is delivered to me and automatically filed in my yak-list folder. I can ask a question and get an answer. Sometimes it will be the right answer and it will usually spawn a heated discussion accompanied by name calling. I can be entertained by numerous friends, acquaintances, and adversaries without having to do anything. I can see what the other guys are doing in their necks of the woods. Having to go to a different site to actively seek that forum is a step I don't want to bother with. I am probably going to miss out on tons of really cool stuff but that's life. So, no, it doesn't strike me as being much of an advantage. OTOH, I think it would be a great thing for RPA to financially support Matronics using a bit of my membership dosh given how much value I (and others) have gotten from this well-established forum. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises. == == == ==


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    Time: 04:23:28 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: RPA Online Store
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Subject: Yak-List: RPA Online Store > --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> > > Folks, > > I had some examples of official RedStar Pilots Association merchandise available at Sun n Fun and I was glad to see it was welcomed like elk meat to a pack of wolves. Deon the web manager and I are working on the final issues with the RPA Online Store: It will open soon (announced here) and start with paypal, but will very soon after include online secure credit card merchant services, just as you see at say, Amazon. > > Countless hours went in to art design and product development, funds generated will grow the scope of your association (and provide operating capital to design and order more products for the gang, it's a vicious cycle)some things you will find: > > Official RPA Hangar Flags: You've got your Chinese or CCCP flag hanging over the warbird, some folks might think you've gone to the reds! Display the RPA flag; the design includes a patriotic theme and is an eye catcher sure to spark conversations from complete strangers...especially if you ask for the optional "Non PC" version with Ivana, the RPAs' female Soviet airman mascot in CCCP uniform... > > RPA Logo Stickers: Old squadron tradition, have a roll of these babies on hand in the helmet bag and leave the RPA Shield at your favorite airport watering hole, FBO, etc. > > Patches on patches...RPA logo member, FAST, Aircraft specific, etc... > > Flying scarves... > > RPA Winged Name Tags (AF vets can select AF style wings, Navy vets gold navy style wings, civil background RPAers either one or send me your suggestion via "Ask & Answer" at www.rpatalk.com !) > > RPA logo pitot covers unlike anything you've ever seen... > > Hats, shirts, polos, aviator turtle necks... > > Stay tuned... > > Drew > > Drew Blahnick > RedStar Pilots Association > www.flyredstar.org > >


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    Time: 04:24:04 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: RPA Online Store
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Drew, Can you make sure you guys make pitot covers that fit the L-29 tubes. Thanks Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Subject: Yak-List: RPA Online Store > --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> > > Folks, > > I had some examples of official RedStar Pilots Association merchandise available at Sun n Fun and I was glad to see it was welcomed like elk meat to a pack of wolves. Deon the web manager and I are working on the final issues with the RPA Online Store: It will open soon (announced here) and start with paypal, but will very soon after include online secure credit card merchant services, just as you see at say, Amazon. > > Countless hours went in to art design and product development, funds generated will grow the scope of your association (and provide operating capital to design and order more products for the gang, it's a vicious cycle)some things you will find: > > Official RPA Hangar Flags: You've got your Chinese or CCCP flag hanging over the warbird, some folks might think you've gone to the reds! Display the RPA flag; the design includes a patriotic theme and is an eye catcher sure to spark conversations from complete strangers...especially if you ask for the optional "Non PC" version with Ivana, the RPAs' female Soviet airman mascot in CCCP uniform... > > RPA Logo Stickers: Old squadron tradition, have a roll of these babies on hand in the helmet bag and leave the RPA Shield at your favorite airport watering hole, FBO, etc. > > Patches on patches...RPA logo member, FAST, Aircraft specific, etc... > > Flying scarves... > > RPA Winged Name Tags (AF vets can select AF style wings, Navy vets gold navy style wings, civil background RPAers either one or send me your suggestion via "Ask & Answer" at www.rpatalk.com !) > > RPA logo pitot covers unlike anything you've ever seen... > > Hats, shirts, polos, aviator turtle necks... > > Stay tuned... > > Drew > > Drew Blahnick > RedStar Pilots Association > www.flyredstar.org > >


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    Time: 04:36:37 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Taxi Lights
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Ok, who's the pudnocker that took out the taxi lights at Leeward. I'm getting all sorts of grief from my neighbors. Calling me a communist and everything, and they keep calling my airplane a ying-yang. Well thats what you get when you live in a geriatric community :) Ernie


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    Time: 04:57:38 PM PST US
    From: "yak52" <yak52@jdlsolutions.com>
    Subject: RPA Online Store
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@jdlsolutions.com> Ernie, Can you send me an email to admin@flyredstar.org with more info, dimensions etc, Thanks, Deon. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie Subject: Re: Yak-List: RPA Online Store --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Drew, Can you make sure you guys make pitot covers that fit the L-29 tubes. Thanks Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: <aapilot@adelphia.net> Subject: Yak-List: RPA Online Store > --> Yak-List message posted by: <aapilot@adelphia.net> > > Folks, > > I had some examples of official RedStar Pilots Association merchandise available at Sun n Fun and I was glad to see it was welcomed like elk meat to a pack of wolves. Deon the web manager and I are working on the final issues with the RPA Online Store: It will open soon (announced here) and start with paypal, but will very soon after include online secure credit card merchant services, just as you see at say, Amazon. > > Countless hours went in to art design and product development, funds generated will grow the scope of your association (and provide operating capital to design and order more products for the gang, it's a vicious cycle)some things you will find: > > Official RPA Hangar Flags: You've got your Chinese or CCCP flag hanging over the warbird, some folks might think you've gone to the reds! Display the RPA flag; the design includes a patriotic theme and is an eye catcher sure to spark conversations from complete strangers...especially if you ask for the optional "Non PC" version with Ivana, the RPAs' female Soviet airman mascot in CCCP uniform... > > RPA Logo Stickers: Old squadron tradition, have a roll of these babies on hand in the helmet bag and leave the RPA Shield at your favorite airport watering hole, FBO, etc. > > Patches on patches...RPA logo member, FAST, Aircraft specific, etc... > > Flying scarves... > > RPA Winged Name Tags (AF vets can select AF style wings, Navy vets gold navy style wings, civil background RPAers either one or send me your suggestion via "Ask & Answer" at www.rpatalk.com !) > > RPA logo pitot covers unlike anything you've ever seen... > > Hats, shirts, polos, aviator turtle necks... > > Stay tuned... > > Drew > > Drew Blahnick > RedStar Pilots Association > www.flyredstar.org > > == == == ==


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    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: The Yakinator LIVES!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Yaksters; N9110M LIVES! One short month after my gear up mishap I'm back in the air. Funny thing, I keep getting comments from my local hanger group like..... "Geeze your lucky". Or...... "If it would have been a spam can you'd be parting it out". HMMMM? Maybe those Russkies designed em' right! OHH, by-the-way, after a year of flying with me, a good friend (who reads this list), went out and bought a 52 for himself. I guess that there's nothing like first hand experience to make believers out of people. See you at Red Stars. Frank N9110M




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