---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/28/04: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:10 AM - Re: SnF Debrief (cpayne@joimail.com) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Less Speed, again (Frank Haertlein) 3. 05:27 AM - Airshow in Kobelt airport NY (Andrei Litouev) 4. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: SnF Debrief (yak52) 5. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: SnF Debrief (Michael Di Marco) 6. 09:00 AM - Cool Tools (Ernie) 7. 09:11 AM - Re: RPA Merchandise ALL IN GOOD FUN!!!!! (Jim Bowerman) 8. 09:24 AM - MTV-3 Prop For Sale (Patrick Scofield) 9. 10:52 AM - SunnFun Debrief (MFilucci@aol.com) 10. 12:40 PM - All Red Star UPDATE vol. 2 (Barry Hancock) 11. 01:01 PM - 218CJ flies! (Barry Hancock) 12. 05:43 PM - All Red Star (Frank Haertlein) 13. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: SnF Debrief (Terry Calloway) 14. 07:18 PM - ARS payment (Barry Hancock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:23 AM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Re: SnF Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Mike Di Marco: Our Sun n Fun get together was NOT advertised as a FAST clinic due to the training required for flying in the show. Neither will MTW/Oshkosh be a "clinic" for the same reason. Here in the SouthEast Region we have already run a full FAST clinic and 2 mini-clinics, this year alone. Stay tuned to the RPA webside calender of events or monitor this list here. WHAT else should we be doing to spread the word? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:59 AM PST US From: "Frank Haertlein" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Less Speed, again --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" Craig Why take a champion wrestler (YAK-52) and try to turn him into a flimsy long distance runner (CJ6)? Unless of course you want to run from a fight! :) Frank N9110M YAK-52 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cpayne@joimail.com Subject: Yak-List: Less Speed, again --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" --> 'Changers & Yakker's, Once again the official results of the Sun 60 have been revised. As first published, my speed was recorded as over 253 KNOTS. I expressed a wee bit of doubt, and showed the Aircraft Spruce guy how my speed was posted higher than everyone else's yet my elapsed time fell in place with the others. "Computers don't lie" was the comment. My reply was "true, but programmers screw up". Round 2: They published 185.6 KNOTS in the Sun n Fun TODAY paper, which was still a little funny since there was a standing start and I held 180 KIAS all the way around at a density altitude of 1500 ft. Round 3: Somehow, another 3 miles got added to the distance for a total of 63 statute miles, probably due to the course being run in the opposite direction and my average recalc'ed at 169.315 KNOTS, or 195 MPH, or 313.57 KPH. Darn, I really wanted to average 200+ mph around the course. Maybe there's hope for you guys yet. Question: What is the Yak-52 capable of on the top end? Is it possible to put some more waddle in her walk? George Coy tells me that that big fat Clark Y wing would make it tough to squeeze more knots out, let alone the dirty feet and bridge rivets? Opinions? Craig Payne == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:43 AM PST US From: "Andrei Litouev" Subject: Yak-List: Airshow in Kobelt airport NY --> Yak-List message posted by: "Andrei Litouev" Guis, June 1 the owner of airport restorant Cavu at the Kobelt airport organazed airshow. I do not know ditails (dui of full time job and busy skydiving and working on my Yak-52 on weekends). All information by phone (914) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:35 AM PST US From: "yak52" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: SnF Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" On www.flyredstar.org under "Events" you will find a list of all registered events and there descriptions for a quick reference. This is for everybody not only members. Members has an "Event Attendants" section where you can see who is coming, etc. For the guys at the Sun&Fun event - I uploaded more photos under "Event debriefing" Thanks, Deon. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cpayne@joimail.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: SnF Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Mike Di Marco: Our Sun n Fun get together was NOT advertised as a FAST clinic due to the training required for flying in the show. Neither will MTW/Oshkosh be a "clinic" for the same reason. Here in the SouthEast Region we have already run a full FAST clinic and 2 mini-clinics, this year alone. Stay tuned to the RPA webside calender of events or monitor this list here. WHAT else should we be doing to spread the word? Craig Payne == == == == ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:42 AM PST US From: Michael Di Marco Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: SnF Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: Michael Di Marco OK. This list is where I thought I could get the information. If it was posted, I missed it. I'll add the RPA site to my favorites. But I was thinking there would be more traffic(messages) on clinics on this list leading up to the event. As I scanned them, I didn't see any that were close to the event. So maybe that's where more emphasis is needed. Clinics the month of or prior to a major event with an associated amount of messages to announce them. Since there will be no RPA clinics at OSH, maybe you could turn such an effort prior to OSH into a nation wide membership drive as well. Mike "cpayne@joimail.com" wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Mike Di Marco: Our Sun n Fun get together was NOT advertised as a FAST clinic due to the training required for flying in the show. Neither will MTW/Oshkosh be a "clinic" for the same reason. Here in the SouthEast Region we have already run a full FAST clinic and 2 mini-clinics, this year alone. Stay tuned to the RPA webside calender of events or monitor this list here. WHAT else should we be doing to spread the word? Craig Payne --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:17 AM PST US From: "Ernie" Subject: Yak-List: Cool Tools --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" I was cleaning up my favorites list today and came across this one. Handy if you want a quick conversion for your MAP from mm/hg to inches. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/25_462.html Ernie ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:46 AM PST US From: Jim Bowerman Subject: RE: Yak-List: RPA Merchandise ALL IN GOOD FUN!!!!! --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Bowerman I disagree. Us Yak 52 guys will need them when the CJ's and T's are shot down in simulated combat and outmaneuvered performing aerobatics :-). Jim Bowerman -----Original Message----- From: Gus Fraser [mailto:fraseg@comcast.net] Subject: Yak-List: RPA Merchandise ALL IN GOOD FUN!!!!! --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" RPA, can we get some silhouette stickers made up, in red about 2 inches in size I think CJ6, T6 & T34 would look real nice just under my canopy rail, one per recorded victory :))))))) No need to make any 52 ones because nobody will ever have a need to buy one of those Gus OK so I will say it again, this is sent in GOOD FUN.... ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:31 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: MTV-3 Prop For Sale From: Patrick Scofield --> Yak-List message posted by: Patrick Scofield Gents, I noticed some advisory commentary regarding my Prop for sale. Maybe this will help. The Propellor Log states that it is an MTV-3-B-C/L250-21 Hub Serial #96005, With Blade set #'s MI-6431, MI-6432, MI-6433 I chatted with Doug Sapp not two hours after I made the initial post and advised him about the following, as Doug often tells others about deals I told him that I would be sure to advise any potential purchaser of a hub AD: In an enquiry with MT propellor in Germany I had about a month ago, they advised me of an AD on the prop. They also informed me that if I didn't want to hassle with 50 hour inspections I could buy a new hub assy for $1,400 US. I asked Doug if he felt I was asking a fair price considering this, He agreed. $5,000 USD firm, FOB my hangar at FFZ (Mesa, AZ), the propellor is crated but I will need the crate back as it ain't mine. Patrick Scofield President Concept Designworx, Inc. 2550 N Thunderbird Circle Suite #302 Mesa, AZ 85215 USA Bus. 480-968-4125 Fax. 480-968-4126 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:55 AM PST US From: MFilucci@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: SunnFun Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com In a message dated 4/27/04 7:38:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cj6a_chinablue@yahoo.com writes: > Time to take a proactive approach or loose the battle for a lack of > interest. > > Mike Di Marco > China Blue > Mike, The best way for you to get involved in FAST training is to get in touch with your regional coordinator. All the FAST training is being coordinated at the regional level now. We found that when we tried to accomplish both FAST training and mass formation training at S&F and OSH we could not do so without compromising both. As a result, S&F and OSH will be devoted to mass formation and, as I said, FAST training will be handled on the local level. So far, the effort has proven to be successful and beneficial to RPA members. Local training means you don't have to travel so far to get training. It also usually means that there is a good ratio of instructors to students. So far this year, it has also meant more opportunities for training. As Craig Payne pointed out, there have been three trainings in the SE region with more planned. In the NE, there have been two mini-clinics with more planned. From what I have seen this year there is no lack of interest or lack of enthusiasm. We have already trained an d qualified a number of FAST pilots with many more in the pipeline. There is one more element to the whole scenario we all need to appreciate as well -- all this effort is being done by volunteers who invest their time, and sometimes money, to make it happen. The RPA is not some corporation with a full time, paid staff to handle organizing events. You are right about the need for a proactive approach, but it is you and all the other members who need to be proactive if you want your Association to work for you. Regards, Mike Filucci ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:20 PM PST US From: Barry Hancock Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star UPDATE vol. 2 --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock ARS 2004 UPDATE, volume 2 IN THIS EDITION: -Last Days of Registration Discount -All Red Star welcomes Natasha -World Class Aerobatic Instruction with a Red Star Flair -Saturday Competitions -Your Guide to Flying into All Red Star =============================================== DON'T LOOSE OUT ON THE DISCOUNT!!! Looks like another record year in store for all of us at All Red Star. As of today we have well over 60 registrations, which is not only ahead of last year's pace, it is the most ever! That being said there are a number of you who have registered but not paid. The 10% discount on registration ends on April 30, that's just 2 days away. If you have not paid, please take the time to do so now at: http://www.flyredstar.org/ARSregisterPayment.aspx Thanks! You may have noticed that the ARS site is now being supported by flyredstar.org. A big thank you to the very talented Deon Esterhuizen for his work on integrating the sites. Very soon you will be able to see a list of all attendees and the aircraft they are bringing online. We will let you know when this happens. ----------------------------- FORGET THE YAK GROUPIES, WE HAVE NATASHA! In our never ending quest to keep the ground ops just as fun as the air ops, All Red Star 2004 will be the backdrop for the introduction of the event's newest supporter, Natasha. Natasha is a long time enthusiast of Red Star aircraft and she will be on hand to put our aircraft in a never before seen light. Even if your team is knocked out of the Crud Tournament in the first round, I can assure you Natasha will quickly have you leaving your troubles behind, and if the price is right, you just might be able to take her home with you! ----------------------------- WORLD CLASS AEROBATIC/SPIN INSTRUCTION ON TAP Oleg Fedorov, who placed 3rd in the 2000 WAC, and who has several thousand hours in Yak-52's will be at All Red Star 2004 for your training pleasure. Also known as the "Spin Master", we are excited to provide this incredible training opportunity. Aerobatic/Spin training is an essential part of our type of flying, so wether you want to work on some aerobatic maneuvers that have been giving you fits, or want to get comfortable with spin recovery techniques that can save your life and *will* build your confidence/enjoyment in flying your mount. Space is filling up fast, so if you are interested, please let us know. Costs are TBD based on his travel costs, but the more people that fly with him the cheaper it will be as the costs will be directly spread over the participants. This is an incredible training opportunity and sure to be pennies on the dollar for what you would pay elsewhere. ----------- ALL RED STAR TO UNVEIL NEW MUNITIONS DURING SATURDAY COMPETITIONS After months of research and testing, the doll penetrating BGBU-69 "Breast Buster" will debut at this year's Bomb Drop competition on Saturday, May 15. The Bomb Drop competition is open to all pilots and we are assured this year the bombs are reliable and visible from release to impact for accurate scoring. We also are confident they will blow up, so to speak. Rules will be posted soon on the web site. After all the bombs have fallen on Saturday morning, it will be time to strut your formation skills during the 2nd Annual Formation Challenge. This year the stakes have been raised considerably with the winning team not only taking home a gorgeous trophy (below) but also flight jackets valued at over $150/ea. Registration is $100 per team (open to both jets and props) and there are only a few slots left to sign up. If you are interested, please contact us ASAP. Rules will be posted soon. (The Russian Roulette Squadron with their 1st Annual Formation Challenge Champions trophy). DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT Flying into All Red Star can be challenging at times. With formation and ACM flights buzzing about the surrounding airspace it can get hectic, especially if you don't know where to look and where to be. We hopefully have taken most of the confusion out of your arrival (and event flying) with the Air-ground plan. Please visit www.allredstar.com/faq2004.asp and click on the "Flying into KMER" link. Also, most all of your questions about the event including participant requirements and other vital information can be found on this page. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That's it for now. Again, if you have not registered or paid yet, now is the time as fees will go up by 10% on May 1st. This is shaping up to be the best ARS yet, and we hope you'll be a part of it! Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004 (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!" Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004 (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!" ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:37 PM PST US From: Barry Hancock Subject: Yak-List: 218CJ flies! --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Well, after an 8 month stint on the ground, NX218CJ took to the skies at 0722 this morning for only her 4th flight. We had been battling issues with my gee-whiz-bang systems monitor that was giving us fits, and my lack of time to spend at the airport, but things appeared to all be straightened out. After a ground run and systems check yesterday afternoon, I wiped her down, filled her with oil, did a FOD check and put her to bed. Rolled her out of the hanger this morning to the rising sun, preflighted, pulled the prop through and she fired right up, it was as if she knew we were finally going to get air under her wings again. Flight was completely uneventful, and it was the first time I had put her through all the aerobatic maneuvers. The plane handled wonderfully. The MTV-9-260 was powerful and smooth...I can't believe what a difference it is over the 2-blade, and holy cow, what a speed break too! There is still much detail work to do to get "Panda-monuim" where I want her, but all I can say is it's waaaay better to work on a flying airplane! This plane is full of modifications, and at this point I'm only disappointed with our design of one....the map box where the hand pump used to be....we should have fastened it with screws instead of rivets. Oh well, live and learn. As you can imagine, I'm quite busy with All Red Star planning, etc., but sometime after the event I'll take pics of all the mods and put them on photoshare. Just as a teaser, some of my favorites are the Malcom hood, electric boost pump/primer, and 3-way electric trim. So it looks like Panda-monium will be at All Red Star, finally. That is, if I don't have my L-39 type rating by then..... Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004 (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!" ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:27 PM PST US From: "Frank Haertlein" Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" Barry, In regards to the rules for attending All Red Stars, what is the following rule supposed to do and how does it affect me practically? I have only one panel mount radio in the front. Here's the rule.................. "the backseater must be able to talk outside the aircraft independent of your actions" Also, I provide for my own insurance. Why would your organization have a problem with that? Frank ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:27 PM PST US From: "Terry Calloway" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: SnF Debrief --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" Mike, There is and excellent FAST clinic in Columbus, NB one month prior to Oshkosh. See you there? tc ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:09 PM PST US From: Barry Hancock Subject: Yak-List: ARS payment --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Gang, I may have not been clear enough earlier. Those who have registered already, but not paid, need to visit http://www.flyredstar.org/ARSregisterPayment.aspx Those who have not registered visit http://www.flyredstar.org/ARSregister.aspx and you will be directed to the payment page after you submit your registration. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks! Barry Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004 (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!" Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star 2004 (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"