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1. 02:07 AM - Re: Filler connection for air fill (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
2. 02:11 AM - Re: Yak 52 FOD Design (Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd)
3. 10:30 AM - Email address (Ernie Martinez)
4. 10:42 AM - Re: Email address (cjpilot710@aol.com)
5. 05:11 PM - More ARS photos (Barry Hancock)
6. 05:55 PM - Housai engine part Id. required.. (David Stroud)
7. 06:33 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (Jim Selby)
8. 06:44 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
9. 07:07 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (Walt Lannon)
10. 07:30 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
11. 07:47 PM - Mount pad (Frank Stelwagon)
12. 08:10 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (Walt Lannon)
13. 09:21 PM - Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. (Joe Howse)
14. 09:34 PM - Hoses (Frank Haertlein)
15. 09:51 PM - Re: Hoses (Doug Sapp)
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| Subject: | Re: Filler connection for air fill |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
Dennis, you don't need to "find" these parts, just order them from the factory
they are in current production. OK it takes 60 days but then again Cessna take
6 months or more.
If Aerostar is supported with orders they will stay in business to the benefit
of all, I strongly support and recommend that all dealers use the OEM for this
reason.
Some parts you will not be able to "fix" and have to purchase, if the OEM is out
of business then you really are stuck.
Cheers, MJ
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
There is also a check valve on the input port on the Yak 52. The Schrader
valve fitting is used on the 52 because it is getting extremely difficult
to
find the original Russian connector that mates with the external air fill
port.
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 FOD Design |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark@yakuk.com>
But these designs seam to forget the access to the "danger area" of the 2 lightening
holes where the trim cable passes through. This HAS BEEN KNOW to allow a
fuel drain screwdriver to get to the crank arm. also with respect the design
that's been offered for sale will let pens and coins through so is it worth it.
Both those items mentioned will jam a crank arm, espec a steel pen as has been
proved.
If anyone wants a free design simple to install just take all the drawings from my web site. www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm its a ceconite barrier glued in place, the site give dimensional drawings.
Cheers, MJ
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts@simplyweb.net>
Just wanted to clarify the design of the FOD cover for the Yak 52 by 2 Genes
Aviation,
that design was actually created by fellow Yak 52 owner, James McClellan
in November 2003. I sent Frank at 2 Genes the plans by James. 2 Genes did,
I believe, design the Yak 50 FOD kit. Frank and Andreas have some quality
products
and have really become a hub of maintenance activity on the Yaks - good
guys! I'm anal about details and abhor revisionist history, so I thought
I
would set the record straight.
Good day!
Jill
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Has anyone got an email or phone number for Rich Hess???
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Email address |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 5/22/2004 1:31:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes:
> Has anyone got an email or phone number for Rich Hess???
>
> Ernie
>
>
>
Yep. 770-975-8328 or 404-964-4885.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Gang,
Check out Allen Silver's home page for photos of ARS III. Thanks to
Allen for another great year. He packed a ton of chutes and gave
another great emergency egress presentation.
http://www.pia.com/silver/
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
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| Subject: | Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left side
of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding up
a mount
and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a mount
strut
attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can find
for it
in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks suspiciously
like a
tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3" across. Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
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| Subject: | Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
Dave, If the mount I'm thinking of it not used, it has a plate over it, It
must have been used on some other application.
Jim Selby
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Stroud
Subject: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
--> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left
side
of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding
up a mount
and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
mount strut
attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can
find for it
in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
suspiciously like a
tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
across. Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
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| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 5/22/2004 8:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
davestroud@rogers.com writes:
> Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left
> side
> of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding
> up a mount
> and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
> mount strut
> attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can
> find for it
> in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
> suspiciously like a
> tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
> across. Thanks.
>
>
Good question. On the M-14p it's where the tach generator is mounted and the
HS-6 cover plate fits it exactly. My HS-6 only had a cover plate there also.
Would be a good spot to mount a vacuum pump.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
David;
The Polish AI14R manual shows this mount pad for an auxiliary oil pump. I
think this means a vacuum pump in our terminology. The AI14R is basically
identical to the Huosai 6 (260HP).
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Stroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
>
> Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear,
left side
> of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm
welding up a mount
> and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
mount strut
> attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I
can find for it
> in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
suspiciously like a
> tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
across. Thanks.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 early construction
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 5/22/2004 10:08:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wlannon@cablerocket.com writes:
> David;
> The Polish AI14R manual shows this mount pad for an auxiliary oil pump. I
> think this means a vacuum pump in our terminology. The AI14R is basically
> identical to the Huosai 6 (260HP).
> Walt
>
I once had to change an exhaust valve in my Housai 6. The exhaust valve from
the AI14R and the valve guide are exactly the same. The Housai 6 (260 hp)
top rockers however are not oil fed. Every 25 hours, the rockers had to be
greased. I found that was OK for the intake rockers but I would grease the
exhaust rockers every 10 hours, because they tented to be pretty dry at 25.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
If you look at old US radials you will usually find a vacuum pump mounted there.
I guess if you copy you have to copy the whole thing. Since the CJs don't
use any vacuum instruments they just blanked it off, and put the mount in the
way.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Jim;
I stand to be corrected here but I think the greased rocker engine was the
Huosai 5. It's max. RPM was 2250, different oil sump than the 6 or 6A and
max. HP either 220 or 240. I think this was the first CJ6 engine that proved
to be unacceptable.
The -6 is the engine described in the body of the Tech. Specs. manual with
an addendum showing the -6A differences. Externally the 6 and 6A look
identical, to differentiate one needed to check the data plate or the carb.
model number. Both have pressure lubed rockers for all cylinders.
Cheers;
Walt
>
> I once had to change an exhaust valve in my Housai 6. The exhaust valve
from
> the AI14R and the valve guide are exactly the same. The Housai 6 (260 hp)
> top rockers however are not oil fed. Every 25 hours, the rockers had to
be
> greased. I found that was OK for the intake rockers but I would grease
the
> exhaust rockers every 10 hours, because they tented to be pretty dry at
25.
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
> until some woman stomps all over them."
> Unknown older man.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
The pad described is the same as on the M14P which is for the tach
generator, hole centers appear to be the same. However the M14P tach. gen.
cannot be used with the CJ6 engine mounts.
The H6A engine uses a tach. drive piggy-backed on the air distributor valve.
Joe
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to
use. I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the
correct sizing given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on
the correct size of the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would
need suggestions for all the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Frank, why don't you tell me how many feet of each you need and I'll cut if
off my roll of bulk metric hose. I won't tell anybody that you have Chinese
hose in your 52, and I doubt the aircraft will know the difference. Send me
a small piece of each and I'll match them up for sure.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: Hoses
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to
use. I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the
correct sizing given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on
the correct size of the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would
need suggestions for all the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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