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1. 06:15 AM - Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Ross Bausone)
2. 07:37 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 07:52 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 07:59 AM - AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM (Terry Calloway)
5. 08:16 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Doug Sapp)
6. 08:22 AM - (Jerry Painter)
7. 10:33 AM - Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal (Kevin Pilling)
8. 12:54 PM - Re: High Cotton (Ron Davis)
9. 12:59 PM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Steve & Donna Hanshew)
10. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 (Jorgen Nielsen)
11. 03:27 PM - Re: Commie Parts (Jim Ivey)
12. 03:35 PM - Re: Commie Parts (cjpilot710@aol.com)
13. 05:06 PM - Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In (Avcraft)
14. 07:10 PM - Aluminum (Dave & Darlene)
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| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:13:44 -0700
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2 seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently with your
aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and another had it
happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the carburetor however,
we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Most likely is a bad coil in one of the magnetos. I know that may sound
somewhat far fetched, but believe me, we had a similar problem in one of our
recently delivered airplanes and chased EVERYTHING while not believing it
could be a bad magneto coil. I have also talked to several other experts
that have corroborated the symptom and the cause.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
You should also check the fine fuel screen for debris and make sure your
flexible hoses do not have an obstruction which could have been caused by a
small piece of rubber/rubber flap from when the ends were assembled into the
hose.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
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| Subject: | AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
The AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM has been published and is available
http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_2004.pdf
No real surprises but everyone going to Oshkosh should study it prior
to departure AND have a copy on the cockpit.
One addendum I would recommend is for all Red Star planes to divert to
MTW for fun and flying starting Sunday July 24.
See you there,
tc
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| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found in
the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except the
pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs which
were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two may
have accounted for the problem.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
Frank,
How 'bout that McCullochCoupe! Way cool! And then there's the -985
version, too (Love them -985's--cheap, er, reasonably priced, too!).
Whatever happened to Aviat's 'Coupe? Yes, innovation is alive and well,
just not in (certificated) production (except sometimes). Someday the FAA
will realize (they've come to the realization but have no clue of how to
deal with it--probably just as well) that nothing interesting has happened
in US certificated airplanes in 50 years (with a few exceptions--and for
obvious reasons, spelled "FAA") and that the real arena is the
"Experimental" one. You're right that "liability" ("What, me worry? Not my
fault--must be HIS fault!") is a big part of the problem. Actually, the FAA
has finally recognized that cotton really is NOT the standard any more (AC
43.13-1B/2A now includes instructions for Stits/Ceconite installation,
including Stits' hidden knot--"acceptable" data, but not "approved" data),
but it doesn't matter because you still have to have an STC to use it on
most a/c. Why make it easy? TSO's/equivalency? Naaah! 'Course the STC's
are available for most a/c, so it works out OK--after 40 years. Have you
seen the Dynon displays? Who needs gyros/inverters? Experimentation can
(sometimes) be a good thing. There's a fine line in there somewhere.
Results may vary.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
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| Subject: | Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling@btclick.com>
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Dear Listers and Lurkers
You'll recall the devastation wreaked upon my '50 last August by the catastrophic
failure of the main air bottle....., pictures available on the Motronics server.
Well I'm pleased to announce she flies once more. Having received the insurance
settlement at year end I had Mark at Yak UK crate her up and shipped to
Termikas in Lithuania. Last weekend we flew to Vilnius on a scheduled and took
a lift to the surprisingly beautiful Pociunai Glider Field, home base of Termikas
to accept the restored '50 and the newly completed Yak 52 TD.The results
of the careful attentions of the Termikas engineers is a revelation. Quite
literally a miracle. Their uncompromising standards of finish and engineering
excellence have to be seen to be believed. That my rebuild was finished on budget
and on time to the exact day promised puts to shame many pretenders to their
throne, not ignoring the extras I subsequently asked them to build into the
job !....like 400hp upgrade, full leather trim, transponder, stainless steel
firewall, all new rigid alloy and flexi pneumatic pipes and full instruments overhaul.
Test flown by Mark J' straight up to 10,500 feet and wrung out through
an energetic aerobatic sequence all the way back to touch down, no post test
flight adjustments were required. So next day, all paperwork completed, 07:30
local we departed, Mark in the new Yak 52TD myself in the '50 for the 1200 mile
ferry flight home to the UK. Three fuel stops (for the 50, only two for the
TD! ), plus one for Customs clearances and a little short of 10 hours airborne
later we put the wheels back on UK soil at 20:55 hrs local, 10 minutes past
sunset (20<30 km headwinds all the way )! Lithuania-Pociunai & Kaunas >Poland-Poznan>Germany-Braunschweig&Dinslaken>UK-Little
Gransden. (16 hours 25 minutes
inclusive) Almost unbelievably she remains perfectly clean and oil tight !
So to all those fellow Yaksters out there who offered comforting words and condolences
last August I say THANKS, it was much appreciated and helped in the low
points. Thanks also to Mark J' and all at Termikas.
BTW the 52TD looks sensational in flight...completely clean underwing and business
like from every angle. Suffice to say the engineering standards are exemplary.
..and to Mark S' your '50 was in the hanger being worked on alongside another flush
riveted example from Germany that had wet wings to give 5 + hours fuel.
Fly safe. kp
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
If a plane was originally certified with cotton, then that's what the type
certificate required then, and now. Do you really want the FAA to
retroactively change the requirements on a plane?
NO, YOU DON'T, or at least I don't want them too.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew@cinci.rr.com>
Doug,
I concede to your infinite wisdom. The SK-35 alternator rig from B & C
worked. I have the old whore back in the hangar on the home strip.
Everything is working. I have fresh working Chinese generators for anyone
that wants them. I'm thinking of making a nice lamp with a chamois shade out
of one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
in
> the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
the
> pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
which
> were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
may
> have accounted for the problem.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
> <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Impressions of flat spin - yes it winds up, I also like the winding up
when going left and feeding in outspin ail, then then extra wind up when
going forward stick.
My impression: one does not have to hold it in when stable.
Re "if everything goes haywire", that won't work for flat spin. Mine
does not recover even with opposite rudder and full forward (i.e, no
inspin ail)
Can't comment on Lomchevak.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
--> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
Did anyone else have that impression?
Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
flat spin though.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
to ask him to show me that maneuver. Frank N911OM YAK52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
Doug:
You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
Thanks for the honest, impeccable parts support over the years. If for some
forgotten reason you do in fact qualify under a definition of "bumming" then
you're bumming with the best of us.
Jim Ivey
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| Subject: | Re: Commie Parts |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 5/25/2004 6:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jim@jimivey.com writes:
> Doug:
>
> You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
> would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
>
Well Doug's wife is welcome in MY cockpit. He's to ugly. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Avcraft" <avcraft@citlink.net>
Fellow RPAers,
We are set for another Fantastic Clinic in Columbus, NE (OLU) June 9-13, 2004.
It's always been a great 5 days having everyone here! Janace & I are excited to
host such a wonderful group of aviation enthusiasts!
The town of Columbus, EAA Chapter 876, local businesses, the Columbus Airport Authority
and Avcraft, Inc. support this event and are looking forward to a successful
event again this year!
When I say SUPPORT:
Discounted Fuel
Discounted Oil
Discounted Room Rates
Some Free Meals (a Fantastic Steakfeed @ Avcraft! & Breakfast @ Avcraft on Saturday
& Sunday)
Transportation to and from Motel
Group Meals
Multi-aircraft Hangar capability @ no charge (we hangared 24 during a storm!)
We will have available:
Smoke oil; 100LL; 25/60 Aeroshell; 100 - 50W; 40W
Aerobatic Box on field
Bomb Drop Contest
Spot Landing Contest
Formation Training
Parachute Packing available
Formation Team Contest
and any other ideas we can come up with!
We are looking forward to another Great Event & Lots of FUN!
Make your plans now to attend!
Keith Harbour
402.564.7884 Office
402.910.5247 Cell
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Hi All
'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in Alberta,
just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some extra metal
kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of angles,sheeting
that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can only
be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and there
seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus shipping.
I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a whole
sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It would probably
only be worthwhile getting this from a canadian as shipping cross the
border can get expensive. Any thoughts from the group are welcome.
Dave
dnimigon@telusplanet.net
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