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1. 07:51 AM - RV HQ at OSH (Barry Hancock)
2. 09:59 AM - Re: MTW/OSH revisited (Daniel Fortin)
3. 10:18 AM - Re: RV HQ at OSH (Walt Fricke)
4. 11:31 AM - Re: MTW/OSH revisited (DaBear)
5. 08:26 PM - Acceleration (Frank Haertlein)
6. 08:41 PM - Re: A good friend was lost today. (cjpilot710@aol.com)
7. 10:00 PM - Re: FAST clinics/OSH-MTW/ and other topics (cjpilot710@aol.com)
8. 10:02 PM - Re: MTW/OSH revisited (Drew Blahnick)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
On Jun 17, 2004, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> Here is Walts testimony:
>
> Drew. Sorry, but I just traded my MH. I will attest, for anyone who
> want't to volunteer their "rig" for this good cause, that it was the
> BEST year I ever spent at OSH. Camping right on the WB flight line and
> having all your buddies stop by every day for a week was awesome. If
> you can't find a volunteer, pass the hat and rent something to park
> there for an HQ. (then draw straws for the lucky guy who get's to stay
> in it) It's a real perk.
I would just like to second that. I conned Walt into letting me stay
with him for a few days...it was a great experience. It was also nice
to have the MH as a rallying point for everyone. If we continue to do
this every year we will have the RPA "central" that everyone will come
to for a cold one, some shade, and hanging out with old friends and
meeting new ones.
Conversely, we could park Walt's T-28 that he traitored his MH for
there and hang out under the wings....whoops, did I say that out loud?
:) Hey, you put a Red Star on your Beech Staggerwing...how 'bout a
Chinese T-28?!
Guys, take a minute and go to http://www.flyredstar.org/A_Events.aspx
and register for OSH!!! It literally takes one minute. As an event
organizer myself, I know how much it helps Herb to have good numbers
early....
Cheers,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: MTW/OSH revisited |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Same here,
I am planning on being at MTW with the CJ but have yet to register. Paypal
is not my forte...
Dan
>From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:41:27 -0500
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
><TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ" <
>Duncan1574@hotmail.com >
> >I just checked the event registration for the MTW/OSH event, there
>are
> >seven people signed up.
>
>Russ,
>I know several pilots coming who have not signed up (including myself).
> The online registration seems to have been the problem getting folks
>going. I will sign up and encourage others to do the same.
>
>Can we do so now and pay when we arrive? I personally don't like
>PayPal and will not give them my cc number.
>Pumper
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV HQ at OSH |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Conversely, we could park Walt's T-28 that he traitored his MH for
there and hang out under the wings....whoops, did I say that out loud?
:) Hey, you put a Red Star on your Beech Staggerwing...how 'bout a
Chinese T-28?!
Could happen. Although it has a pretty nice paint job I'd hate to mess with.
And everyone who ever trained on the "Lex" would be offended. I really hate to
offend Navy types. (I do have to rename the "tailhook" as that's likely not
a PC nomenclature anymore.)
I
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| Subject: | Re: MTW/OSH revisited |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
I don't use PayPal for many reasons. I'm plan on attending MTW and Osh.
Basing out of MTW and hopefully formation flying with east coasters there
and back.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Same here,
>
> I am planning on being at MTW with the CJ but have yet to register.
Paypal
> is not my forte...
>
> Dan
>
>
> >From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
> >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:41:27 -0500
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
> ><TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ" <
> >Duncan1574@hotmail.com >
> > >I just checked the event registration for the MTW/OSH event, there
> >are
> > >seven people signed up.
> >
> >Russ,
> >I know several pilots coming who have not signed up (including myself).
> > The online registration seems to have been the problem getting folks
> >going. I will sign up and encourage others to do the same.
> >
> >Can we do so now and pay when we arrive? I personally don't like
> >PayPal and will not give them my cc number.
> >Pumper
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Acceleration; Put Into Perspective
* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower
than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.
* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 11.2 gallons of
Nitro-methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the
same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the
dragster supercharger.
* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on
overdrive,the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before
ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the
flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.
* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric
water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of
an arc welder in each cylinder.
* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After way,
the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves
at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel
flow.
* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up
in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to
blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate an
average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track,
the launch acceleration approaches 8Gs.
* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed
reading this sentence.
* Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to
light.
* Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions
under load.
* The redline is actually quite high at 9500rpm.
* The bottom line: assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew
worked for free, and for once, NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an
estimated $1,000.00 per second.
The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for
the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is
333.00 mph. (533km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03
Doug Kalitta).
Putting all of this into perspective:
Say you are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo"
powered Corvette Z06.
Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to launch
down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a
flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast
across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The
'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down
hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums
and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you
to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200
mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he
passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
That is acceleration
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| Subject: | Re: A good friend was lost today. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Vern was one of the real joys of belonging to this group. He will be missed.
Jim Goolsby
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| Subject: | Re: FAST clinics/OSH-MTW/ and other topics |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
I'm out here flying the bombers and only get to a computer
every-once-in-a-while.
A very short history about OSH/MTW. Some 5 years ago EAA at OSH asked the
different FAST groups if they would please consider haveing their formation
clinics at other times than at OSH, BECAUSE the participants were not staying for
the full show. Many many times, there would only two of us to fly the last
Sunday show. This was the same the T-34s guys too. The T-6 group numbers would
fall to less than a 1/3, they were the strongest (and still are) supporters.
We pick an out laying field like the others for the convenience. When we had
the clinic at the same time, most of us weren't able to see the sights at
OSH. We were to busy with the FNGs. Right now you can stay at OSH or MTW and
still participate and see the sights. Staying at MTW only allows you to eat
without standing waiting for a table or walking miles to catch a bus or whatever.
Some like to do both, splitting their time between MTW and OSH. OSH/MTW is
more of a get to gather than a training clinic, and was always meant to be so.
In any event EAA would like for us to stay though the Sunday show so that we
can participate. It would be a real feather in our cap if we as an
organization, show our flag, support, just like the T-6 pilots. The powers that
be at
EAA, see that and will reciprocate, like they have, will our war bird, van
parking. When they changed that setup last year, they could have very well left
us out from the other groups. But they saw we were growing, that we were
getting the group loyalty, like the other groups have (or had). I would very much
like to see us fly a bigger formation than the T-6 guys. All you need to do
is make your plans to leave on Sunday afternoon (usually means an over night on
the way home) or leave on Monday.
New topic.
While I'm missing the RedStar gathering in the center of the world (NE), I'm
out here flying the B-24. Day before yesterday, while standing under NX224J's
wing, a short but round built, with a penguin shuffle bought on by age (I
thought) gentleman walked up to me. It was no other than Bob Phillips, the #2
test pilot on the B-24 prototype. He showed me a picture when he was a test
pilot on the Rayon STA. "Look at that. There I was, a good looking guy with a
good looking airplane! Can you imagine what my life was like?" It turns out
that penguin shuffle of a walk was cause by crash landing in a B-25H. He
retired with over 26,000 which included delivering B-314 flying boats with PAA
chief pilot Ed Music, to test flying production B-17s built at Douglas. He's one
of those guys whose shoulders we stand on.
Sad topic.
We lost a good friend and fellow member. Vern was a very descent person.
Fun, a very proud father, and could hold formation with the best of us. He had
permeant smile lines from the conner of his eyes, and he would move right up
next to you and lean in close to tell a joke, or pass on an insight. We don't
know the details of his going, and we should wait for the facts. When they
come, he will want us to know. For him, it seem to me in the short time I knew
him, the world was a wonderful and interesting place. He would want us to
know. Go with God Vern.
Finally,
Hal Morlly let me fly his airplane today. We kind of clean out my pipes
after flying (actually herding) the B-24. I showed him a half snap to a split
S
and he showed me a Shark tooth. For this I got him a ride in the B-24. Thanks
Hal.
Jim Goolsby
PS My son, James Earl Goolsby Jr recieved his Ph. D. today.
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| Subject: | Re: MTW/OSH revisited |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <drewblahnick@hotmail.com>
Roger all that, I personally don't use pay pal for anything unless I have no
other option, it's really for the vendor, not the customer - setting up
credit card merchant services is a pain and more expensive.
But, I faxed what I hope to be the last requirement for the underwriters to
accept our (RPA) secure credit card services so pay pal will be just another
option next to visa/mastercard/discovery/AmEx...
----- Original Message -----
From: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
>
>
> I don't use PayPal for many reasons. I'm plan on attending MTW and Osh.
> Basing out of MTW and hopefully formation flying with east coasters there
> and back.
>
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Same here,
> >
> > I am planning on being at MTW with the CJ but have yet to register.
> Paypal
> > is not my forte...
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > >From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
> > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: MTW/OSH revisited
> > >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:41:27 -0500
> > >
> > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
> > ><TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
> > >
> > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Duncan aka Russ" <
> > >Duncan1574@hotmail.com >
> > > >I just checked the event registration for the MTW/OSH event, there
> > >are
> > > >seven people signed up.
> > >
> > >Russ,
> > >I know several pilots coming who have not signed up (including myself).
> > > The online registration seems to have been the problem getting folks
> > >going. I will sign up and encourage others to do the same.
> > >
> > >Can we do so now and pay when we arrive? I personally don't like
> > >PayPal and will not give them my cc number.
> > >Pumper
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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