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1. 02:34 AM - Big engines (Frank Stelwagon)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: New Rims/wheels (Frank Haertlein)
3. 07:32 AM - Bumper Sticker of the Year (Terry Calloway)
4. 07:35 AM - Engine data (Vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
5. 07:36 AM - Re: New Rims/wheels (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 02:04 PM - Re: New Rims/wheels (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
7. 02:36 PM - Re: Engine Data (cpayne@joimail.com)
8. 02:55 PM - Product for Smoke system (Txusma y Merche)
9. 04:34 PM - Re: New Rims/wheels (Frank Haertlein)
10. 04:57 PM - Re: New Rims/wheels (Doug Sapp)
11. 07:12 PM - Smoke pump (jay reiter)
12. 07:45 PM - Re: New Rims/wheels (cjpilot710@aol.com)
13. 07:54 PM - Re: New Rims/wheels (cjpilot710@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
Come on guys what do ship engines have to do with the yak-list. You guys are getting
worse and worse.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Gus;
I have access to an experimental machine shop so if I don't like
something I have options. I like the idea of having options. The most
difficult problem is finding an 8 inch rim that can be modified to
accept the existing drum brake. Once I have that licked then a whole new
world of tire options opens up.
The Dico (Carlyle 6.90-6) looks, well, knarley, but more importantly
they affect braking force. The 3.5 inch larger diameter gives the tire
more leverage to work against the brakes thus reducing braking
effectiveness. There is a similar tire made with a 17.5 inch diameter
that closely approximates the original. Only problem is you need an 8
inch rim to mount it on. Hence my search. Considering the fact I've
spent almost $800 in tires the last two years it's time to look for
options. I do plan on keeping this plane for awhile. Anyway, I'm a
homebuilder with a background in R&D so tinkering is what I like to do.
Hell, I'll go so far as to strain gage the installation or have a stress
analysis done on it if I think I have to. Don't cost me nuthin' so why
not?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
You mean those off road, runway grabbers don't float your boat ?
Gus
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Doug;
8 inch wheels open up my tire options.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Why do you want to change to 8 inch wheels?
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
I'm looking for new 8 inch rims/wheels that can be adapted to the 52
main gear. I'm looking to use an 8 inch rim and mound the existing brake
drum to it and then fit the whole assembly on the 52 main gear. Anyone
have an idea as to which rim/wheel would work for this?
Thanks in advance.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| Subject: | Bumper Sticker of the Year |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com>
Bumper sticker of the year:
"If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English,
thank a soldier."
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Does anyone have any experience with running the stock 285 Housai at a higher
RPM than 2350 for takeoff operations? My aircraft has the 345hp Housai and
it runs at 2750rpm. What say you experts?
Also what is the stock prop blade angle setting for blade pitch on the ground?
Thanks for the help.
GBunn
Nanchang Haiyan C
N360PT
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| Subject: | Re: New Rims/wheels |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Frank,
I'm sure you have already done this, but if you haven't, check the clearance
between the tire and the wing when the gear is retracted, particularly with
an additional 3.5" diameter tire. Also, (I know this subject has been
bounced around already) if you haven't tried the Desser retreads, you
should. They clearly last 3-4 times as long as the standard, new Desser
tires. Plus they are only $55 each vs. $130 for new tires. You'll need to
send a set of your old tires back for retreading though.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> I have access to an experimental machine shop so if I don't like
> something I have options. I like the idea of having options. The most
> difficult problem is finding an 8 inch rim that can be modified to
> accept the existing drum brake. Once I have that licked then a whole new
> world of tire options opens up.
>
> The Dico (Carlyle 6.90-6) looks, well, knarley, but more importantly
> they affect braking force. The 3.5 inch larger diameter gives the tire
> more leverage to work against the brakes thus reducing braking
> effectiveness. There is a similar tire made with a 17.5 inch diameter
> that closely approximates the original. Only problem is you need an 8
> inch rim to mount it on. Hence my search. Considering the fact I've
> spent almost $800 in tires the last two years it's time to look for
> options. I do plan on keeping this plane for awhile. Anyway, I'm a
> homebuilder with a background in R&D so tinkering is what I like to do.
> Hell, I'll go so far as to strain gage the installation or have a stress
> analysis done on it if I think I have to. Don't cost me nuthin' so why
> not?
>
> Frank
> N911OM
> YAK-52
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> You mean those off road, runway grabbers don't float your boat ?
>
> Gus
>
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> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Doug;
> 8 inch wheels open up my tire options.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Why do you want to change to 8 inch wheels?
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters;
> I'm looking for new 8 inch rims/wheels that can be adapted to the 52
> main gear. I'm looking to use an 8 inch rim and mound the existing brake
> drum to it and then fit the whole assembly on the 52 main gear. Anyone
> have an idea as to which rim/wheel would work for this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Frank
> N911OM
> YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
If you are going to that amount of effort Frank, why just convert over to
cleveland hyd brakes too and be done with the whole thing?
Just my 2 cents, but while the air braking system works fine... it has some
drawbacks too... none of which seem to be present with a hydraulic system
and toe brakes.
Mark
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver@earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
I'm looking for new 8 inch rims/wheels that can be adapted to the 52
main gear. I'm looking to use an 8 inch rim and mound the existing brake
drum to it and then fit the whole assembly on the 52 main gear. Anyone
have an idea as to which rim/wheel would work for this?
Thanks in advance.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Why yes. I have pushed a 285 Huosai beyond it's normal
limits. I ran a grudge drag race off the runway against a
Seneca. I reset prop/governor to run at 2650 RPM and smoked
that spammer good at 170KIAS in a shallow climb. Of course
up high the Seneca's turbos will win out.
I don't recommend doing this unless you have another engine
sitting in the hanger. In my case, it was an M-14P that I
had on standby. After that installation I saw some real
speed (for a CJ).
BTW, for any non-standard CJ engine/prop combo I have found
that it pays to experiment at little with blade settings for
the "sweet spot".
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Product for Smoke system |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Txusma y Merche" <jsagastuy@euskalnet.net>
Which is the best product to write letters in the sky ??
Thanks in advance
Jesus
EC-IAQ
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Mark;
Hydraulic brakes have occurred to me and are option #2 in my plan. I
don't suppose you have a recommended setup?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich
GS11 Mark G
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
--> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
If you are going to that amount of effort Frank, why just convert over
to cleveland hyd brakes too and be done with the whole thing?
Just my 2 cents, but while the air braking system works fine... it has
some drawbacks too... none of which seem to be present with a hydraulic
system and toe brakes.
Mark
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver@earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
I'm looking for new 8 inch rims/wheels that can be adapted to the 52
main gear. I'm looking to use an 8 inch rim and mound the existing brake
drum to it and then fit the whole assembly on the 52 main gear. Anyone
have an idea as to which rim/wheel would work for this?
Thanks in advance.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Frank,
Paul Dumoret, the only man in Canada that can make a Toyota door into lethal
weapon, is removing a Cleveland conversion from his CJ. This might be a leg
up for you if you are contemplating converting your 52 to hyd brakes. Paul
sustained hip injuries in a CJ accident a few years back and it hurts him to
have to rock his feet forward to operate the brakes, so he is changing back
to pneumatic brakes. I have CC'd this to Paul, maybe you guys can get
together.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Mark;
Hydraulic brakes have occurred to me and are option #2 in my plan. I
don't suppose you have a recommended setup?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich
GS11 Mark G
Subject: RE: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
--> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
If you are going to that amount of effort Frank, why just convert over
to cleveland hyd brakes too and be done with the whole thing?
Just my 2 cents, but while the air braking system works fine... it has
some drawbacks too... none of which seem to be present with a hydraulic
system and toe brakes.
Mark
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver@earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: New Rims/wheels
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
I'm looking for new 8 inch rims/wheels that can be adapted to the 52
main gear. I'm looking to use an 8 inch rim and mound the existing brake
drum to it and then fit the whole assembly on the 52 main gear. Anyone
have an idea as to which rim/wheel would work for this?
Thanks in advance.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net>
The smoke pump problem was the pump retaining screws to the motor were to short.
The screws were only long enough to engage two threads into the motor. Longer
screws and locktite have secured the pump. I have a feeling this pump was a
special build as there was no data plate and the motor only had a small label
with an id number and voltage. The pump body had the dash -311 stamped on it.
This should be a watch item for people using FloJet PN. 2100-311 or other FloJet
pumps. Those interested contact me off list and I can forward the parts list.
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| Subject: | Re: New Rims/wheels |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
I don't know why folks want to change the air brakes on the CJs & Yaks. I
mean like you are put in the same class as the great RAF fighter pilots of the
battle of Brithen.
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| Subject: | Re: New Rims/wheels |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 6/28/2004 10:46:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cjpilot710@aol.com writes:
> I don't know why folks want to change the air brakes on the CJs & Yaks. I
> mean like you are put in the same class as the great RAF fighter pilots of
> the
> battle of Brithen.
>
Excuse my spelling. I'm using a lap top and I hit the wrong (send button)
before I checked my spelling (which has never been very good ). Battle of
Briton. Anyway the air system is put together just like a hydraulic ("B" nuts
and
such).
If you loose air you loose brakes. If you loose hydraulic fluid you loose
brakes. What's the difference???
Jim Goolsby
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