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1. 04:21 AM - Re:Re: Wavier (cpayne@joimail.com)
2. 05:32 AM - newsletters help! (cjpilot710@aol.com)
3. 06:22 AM - Russian vs. US Tires (Bob Monzo)
4. 07:04 AM - Re: Valve Clearance (Jim Bernier)
5. 07:35 AM - SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm (Brian Lloyd)
6. 08:30 AM - Re: Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) (Mark Schrick)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: Valve Clearance (Aubrey Price)
8. 08:53 AM - Re: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdown below pts rule name description 0.1 INFO_TLD URI: Contains a URL in the INFO top-level domain (DaBear)
9. 09:23 AM - Re: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule (Brian Lloyd)
10. 09:33 AM - Re: Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) (Bob Monzo)
11. 09:52 AM - Re: Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) (Bill Halverson)
12. 12:46 PM - Re: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdow... (FamilyGage@aol.com)
13. 12:53 PM - MTW/OSH (WSC/Herb Coussons)
14. 01:09 PM - Anyone flying back from OSH to WEST COAST? (Mark Schrick)
15. 03:42 PM - CJ cross country tools/spares (Dave Laird)
16. 04:04 PM - [ Mark Schrick ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
17. 04:25 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (cjpilot710@aol.com)
18. 04:38 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (Brian Lloyd)
19. 04:39 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (Doug Sapp)
20. 04:39 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (Brian Lloyd)
21. 04:49 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (DaBear)
22. 04:53 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (Doug Sapp)
23. 05:00 PM - Re: CJ cross country tools/spares (D Zeman)
24. 07:34 PM - worm (Frank Haertlein)
25. 07:42 PM - SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdown (Walt Lannon)
26. 08:03 PM - Re: Valve Clearance (Walt Lannon)
27. 08:41 PM - Re: worm (Brian Lloyd)
28. 08:43 PM - SPAM (Frank Haertlein)
29. 09:09 PM - Re: SPAM (Brian Lloyd)
30. 09:12 PM - Re: (Brian Lloyd)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Yes, grease the skids of the FAA.... But where? Each FSDO
still seems to be operating on their own. Both the EAA and
AOPA have had some success dealing at the national level on
big issues, by their paid lobbyists.
So how the little issues get worked? On the surface, the EAA
Warbirds would stand to gain but then Real Warbirds
(standard category) don't have the same operation
restriction problems. Inside of FAST, only the RPA and CJAA
would be the major benefactors of a waiver. Perhaps at the
FAST board meeting at Oshkosh, the issue could be raised as
an agenda item??
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | newsletters help! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
RPA Regional Coordinators.
Need reports of regional activities for the newsletter. Like what you are
doing out there and what you're planning (dates are very helpful). Don't forget
pictures. I'd like to get the newsletter done before going to OSH. (fat
chance).
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Russian vs. US Tires |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" <yakpilot@wideopenwest.com>
Has anyone else noticed the Desser 500x150 new manufacture tires are approximately
one inch narrower and also one-two inches shorter in diameter than Russian
tires? When comparing the tires side by side, the size difference is apparent.
I asked Desser's representative about this size difference. He stated he
would check it out and get back to me. But, I have not heard back from him.
On my Yak-52, the smaller Desser tires caused severe vibration/shaking beginning
about 40-45 kts. I just changed back to the larger Russian tires recapped by
Desser and the vibration/shaking is gone.
Maybe the smaller tires from Desser purchased about three years ago were an aberration.
I would be interested to hear anyone's observation or opinion regarding
this matter.
Fly safely.
Bob M.
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| Subject: | Re: Valve Clearance |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Frank,
You're correct, Doug's gaskets are great.
Now for the questions.
We have hydraulic lifters. They pump up with oil and force oil up the
rocker arm push rods in order to lubricate the top end. If you are
seeing a lack of oil in the valve covers area for the top cylinders you
may need to get better lifters. Replacing these are very labor
intensive. It would be more fun and a lot easier to fly inverted for a
short time, making the top of your engine the bottom. But, it's very
unlikely that your engine has lifter problems.
Next. Our engines have NO valve guide seals. With no seals, oil can
move from the top end, past the valve stems, into the combustion
chamber. The engines burn oil. The lower cylinders burn more oil because
they are submerged in oil. If we could relieve the supersaturation
problem, then we would burn less. Since the oil pools on the top end of
the bottom cylinders when resting, then we will get oil moving past the
valve stems and pooling at the back side of the exhaust and intake
valves. The oil at the exhaust drips on the floor, and the intake oil
can cause hydrostatic lock.
So we ask, Is the clean kit necessary. If the engine is new the
tolerances are close and you won't need it. If the engine is older and
tolerances are more loose, then it would definitely help. If you have
the money for the kit, then get it and worry less. If not, then wipe the
floor and pull the prop through more often.
As a post script, the oil that supersaturates the top end of the lower
cylinders restricts rocker arm movement. It would then take more torque
to push the rocker arm through this oil. Decreasing available HP. But,
would the HP gain with the addition of a clean kit off set the added
weight. Both are slight.
Jim B
N3110W
CJ6A
yak52driver@earthlink.net 07/08/04 07:57PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Just got done adjusting the valves on my M14.
Here's the diagnosis.
All valves were within tolerance except for the number 3 and 7
cylinder
exhaust valves. The tolerances were tight....that is the #3 measured
.275mm and the #7 measured .280mm. Not sure if this could cause the
rough running engine in high altitude cold air I wrote about earlier.
A compression check afterwards showed normal and close to previous
measurements. I used the spec of .3mm +.15 -.1
A word of advice here, misadjusted valves could cause them to burn.
Used the silicone valve cover gaskets supplied by Doug Sapp and must
say
they work great. Promises to stop any oil leaks from that area.
This brings up a question; How are the rockers lubed? I can see the
downward pointing cylinders were getting lots of oil but the upward
pointing cylinders seems to not get enough. Anyone care to elaborate?
Also, would it be beneficial if I modified my valve covers so that all
are connected together with rubber hose? Seems that some say this will
aid oiling or scavenging but I'm not entirely convinced.
Thanks in advance.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| Subject: | SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
My SPAM load had gotten so high I changed my email address and then resubscribed
to the Yak-list with my new address. Almost immediately I started to receive
SPAM to my new email address (you can imagine how annoyed I was at this). From
what I can tell it happened when I resubscribed to the Yak-list. Now I am
starting to receive SPAM email that purports to come from various list members.
Not good.
There is a new category of worms/viruses called Super Snoopers (yeah, I know but
I didn't make up the name). These worms infect your machine in order to capture
your email addresses so they can be sent to spammers. I suspect that one
or more people on this list have infected machines. This message is to implore
everyone to get a virus checker program, install it, and keep it updated.
I also recommend a program called SpyBot Search & Destroy. It is freeware but
it finds and removes "spyware" on your machine that isn't technically a virus
but is undesirable anyway (manufacturer's snoop programs, etc.) You can get SpyBot
S&D at:
http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Bob,
I have used Desser Tires for my Yak 52 for over 6 years. I use them on every
new Yak 52 I import and sell. I have never had a shimmy problem due to Desser
Tires. Shimmy can be several problems and each need to be checked.
I have reading all the emails on suspected tire problems with Desser and
personally I have to laugh. If you get (I can send if anyone wants it)
Aviation consumer June 2004 just voted Desser "BEST value and tire wear" over
7 tire brands including Goodyear, Michelin, McCeary, and Concord. Dessers
Monster Retreads gave the most rubber, tread depth and best value in the
class. This is the same rubber used on the Aero Classic for our Russian tires.
I have the PDF file on this and can upload it to the Yak-list picture area.
The key thing I am reading here is "Guys, check your brakes, you could be
wearing your tires out early with tight brake cables." There are many factors
for excessive tire wear but it is not Desser master minding cheaper rubber
that wears early. I think a few hours with an instructor on proper landing
technique would help in the long run.........
Good luck, and keep up on your maintenance on your aircraft. Check the brake
release and tension. Have fun.......Get Retreads for longer lasting tire wear.
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
YAK DRIVER, LLC
Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW
Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!!
REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email schrick@pacbell.net
Website www.YAKDRIVER.com
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" <yakpilot@wideopenwest.com>
Has anyone else noticed the Desser 500x150 new manufacture tires are
approximately one inch narrower and also one-two inches shorter in diameter
than Russian tires? When comparing the tires side by side, the size
difference is apparent. I asked Desser's representative about this size
difference. He stated he would check it out and get back to me. But, I have
not heard back from him.
On my Yak-52, the smaller Desser tires caused severe vibration/shaking
beginning about 40-45 kts. I just changed back to the larger Russian tires
recapped by Desser and the vibration/shaking is gone.
Maybe the smaller tires from Desser purchased about three years ago were an
aberration. I would be interested to hear anyone's observation or opinion
regarding this matter.
Fly safely.
Bob M.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Aubrey Price <aprice@vartec.net>
Mark, You are in for an interesting few weeks. We just finished our paint
last week. All we lack is the yellow trim around the stars, red nose on
cowling and polishing the exhaust stacks. We used PPG auto paint, base coat
primer and base coat could be applied by anyone. If you get a run, just sand
it off and polish. It's work, but no big deal. We used the clear coat,
because that is the shine you see on expensive cars. Single coat paint
doesn't do that. We were not going to strip the Russian paint, but Mark
Jeffery convinced us that we needed to. He was correct, but it is a lot of
work. Here is a link to our pages. Click on "Work in Progress "to see the
complete process. http://www.tammyprice.com/yak
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Morgan [mailto:aircraftmanager@msn.com]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Valve Clearance
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Morgan" <aircraftmanager@msn.com>
Evening everyone,
Well....My Yak 52 is ready for paint. Gosh...its been 11 months now.
First, I am in need of a few things. George Coy gave me the color numbers
for the DOSAAF red, white, and blue and I have missed placed them. I also
will need insignia for the nose and the rest of the aircraft, stars too. I
plan on using a self etching primer and need to know what works best? Not
planning on using Imron at all, by the way. My guy that sprays refuses to
use it.
Second, I need someone to check me out in it. I am at Lunken Airport,
Cincinnati. This should spark some interesting comments. LOL. I promised a
friend that I would have it up and flying in time for our local airshow in
September (Hi Steve and Donna!). I am trying guys. Been busy fixing the
Baron that bellied in. :-(
Blue Skies!
Mark " YAK Daddy" Morgan, 1982 YAK 52 N502GC
.
>From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Valve Clearance
>Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:57:16 -0700 Rule breakdown below pts
> rule name description
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
><yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
>Yaksters;
>
>Just got done adjusting the valves on my M14.
>
>Here's the diagnosis.
>
>All valves were within tolerance except for the number 3 and 7 cylinder
>exhaust valves. The tolerances were tight....that is the #3 measured
>.275mm and the #7 measured .280mm. Not sure if this could cause the
>rough running engine in high altitude cold air I wrote about earlier.
>
>A compression check afterwards showed normal and close to previous
>measurements. I used the spec of .3mm +.15 -.1
>
>A word of advice here, misadjusted valves could cause them to burn.
>
>Used the silicone valve cover gaskets supplied by Doug Sapp and must
>say they work great. Promises to stop any oil leaks from that area.
>
>This brings up a question; How are the rockers lubed? I can see the
>downward pointing cylinders were getting lots of oil but the upward
>pointing cylinders seems to not get enough. Anyone care to elaborate?
>Also, would it be beneficial if I modified my valve covers so that all
>are connected together with rubber hose? Seems that some say this will
>aid oiling or scavenging but I'm not entirely convinced.
>Thanks in advance.
>Frank
>N911OM
>YAK-52
>
>
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdown |
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domain
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
Brian,
Might you also get spam from the spamers gleaning email address information
off the web? Matronics is listing email conversations on the web, they show
in google type searches. Once of the reasons I don't like web based
discussion systems is that the permanent nature of them leave my email
address open to spamers.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
Subject: Yak-List: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdown
top-level domain
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> My SPAM load had gotten so high I changed my email address and then
resubscribed to the Yak-list with my new address. Almost immediately I
started to receive SPAM to my new email address (you can imagine how annoyed
I was at this). From what I can tell it happened when I resubscribed to the
Yak-list. Now I am starting to receive SPAM email that purports to come
from various list members. Not good.
>
> There is a new category of worms/viruses called Super Snoopers (yeah, I
know but I didn't make up the name). These worms infect your machine in
order to capture your email addresses so they can be sent to spammers. I
suspect that one or more people on this list have infected machines. This
message is to implore everyone to get a virus checker program, install it,
and keep it updated.
>
> I also recommend a program called SpyBot Search & Destroy. It is freeware
but it finds and removes "spyware" on your machine that isn't technically a
virus but is undesirable anyway (manufacturer's snoop programs, etc.) You
can get SpyBot S&D at:
>
> http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule |
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0.1 INFO_TLD URI: Contains a URL in the INFO top-level
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
DaBear wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
>
> Brian,
>
> Might you also get spam from the spamers gleaning email address information
> off the web? Matronics is listing email conversations on the web, they show
> in google type searches. Once of the reasons I don't like web based
> discussion systems is that the permanent nature of them leave my email
> address open to spamers.
That is possible too. Still, the rise of the Super Snooper programs leads me to
believe that there is a strong possibility that the list is being snooped by
someone with an infected machine.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" <yakpilot@wideopenwest.com>
Mark:
I agree. Desser tires are fine. Their retreads are probably the best
value. The rubber on their new tires and retreads wears great. I was just
wondering about the size difference between Desser's new tires and the
Russian tires. I believe the smaller size of the Desser tires caused
excessive vibration/shaking in my Yak. The vibration/shaking stopped when I
switched back to the larger Russian tires (recapped by Desser). I do not
think I have a braking problem. I have had my Yak for eight years now and
700+ hours and on only my second set of brake pads which still have a lot
left in them.
Bob M.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
>
> Bob,
>
> I have used Desser Tires for my Yak 52 for over 6 years. I use them on
every
> new Yak 52 I import and sell. I have never had a shimmy problem due to
Desser
> Tires. Shimmy can be several problems and each need to be checked.
>
> I have reading all the emails on suspected tire problems with Desser and
> personally I have to laugh. If you get (I can send if anyone wants it)
> Aviation consumer June 2004 just voted Desser "BEST value and tire wear"
over
> 7 tire brands including Goodyear, Michelin, McCeary, and Concord. Dessers
> Monster Retreads gave the most rubber, tread depth and best value in the
> class. This is the same rubber used on the Aero Classic for our Russian
tires.
>
> I have the PDF file on this and can upload it to the Yak-list picture
area.
>
> The key thing I am reading here is "Guys, check your brakes, you could be
> wearing your tires out early with tight brake cables." There are many
factors
> for excessive tire wear but it is not Desser master minding cheaper rubber
> that wears early. I think a few hours with an instructor on proper landing
> technique would help in the long run.........
>
> Good luck, and keep up on your maintenance on your aircraft. Check the
brake
> release and tension. Have fun.......Get Retreads for longer lasting tire
wear.
>
> Mark "SHREK" Schrick
>
> YAK DRIVER, LLC
> Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW
> Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!!
> REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member
> 966 Wallace Drive
> San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
> Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
> Cell 408-391-6664
> Email schrick@pacbell.net
> Website www.YAKDRIVER.com
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bob Monzo" <yakpilot@wideopenwest.com>
>
> Has anyone else noticed the Desser 500x150 new manufacture tires are
> approximately one inch narrower and also one-two inches shorter in
diameter
> than Russian tires? When comparing the tires side by side, the size
> difference is apparent. I asked Desser's representative about this size
> difference. He stated he would check it out and get back to me. But, I
have
> not heard back from him.
>
> On my Yak-52, the smaller Desser tires caused severe vibration/shaking
> beginning about 40-45 kts. I just changed back to the larger Russian
tires
> recapped by Desser and the vibration/shaking is gone.
>
> Maybe the smaller tires from Desser purchased about three years ago were
an
> aberration. I would be interested to hear anyone's observation or opinion
> regarding this matter.
>
> Fly safely.
> Bob M.
>
>
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| Subject: | Russian vs. US Tires (Final say on this subject) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Halverson <william@netpros.net>
Hi Mark -
What day/time would be good for meeting up this weekend? Anytime after 8
AM works for me ...
Bill Halverson
YAK-55 [long wing]
At 08:28 AM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
>
>Bob,
>
>I have used Desser Tires for my Yak 52 for over 6 years. I use them on every
>new Yak 52 I import and sell. I have never had a shimmy problem due to Desser
>Tires. Shimmy can be several problems and each need to be checked.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com
Yakers et al,
I have had to contact AOL on three occasions and remake my password due to
break-ins from outside sources. Have not been able to find the leak! Have
others on our lists had any similar problems?
Ray Gage
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "WSC/Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
To all:
2 weeks to go - I hope to finally meet everyone that I feel like I know from the
last year of being on the e-mail list.
I hope every one has plans made. It would be nice if you could register on the
web site even if you want to pay when you arrive. There are only 7 people registered
on the web site - yet everyone tells me to expect 20-25 planes. It would
be helpful to at least know a head count as problems like running out of
oil (I heard about previous years) can be avoided if I get a head count.
Plan on arriving in time for dinner Saturday night. The local EAA chapter will
provide a meal - it will be included as part of the registration. No extra cost.
If I get at least 20 people registered by next Friday, I'll provide the
beer for Saturday night when everyone arrives.
We also have a spot reserved in the Warbird area at OSH for an RV. If 4 guys want
to stay at OSH in the RVand split the cost then I'll rent one and get it there.
It would be nice to have more of a presence among the NATA, and dealers
in the area. A place to congregate and hang out is nice. The cost of a motorhome
would be about 1000$. If up to 4 guys want to split the cost I can have
it there Friday or Sat 7-23/24 and take it back Sunday afternoon at the end of
the airshow. contact me on or off list to work out the details
We should have a great time flying the 24th to the 28th then I understand people
scatter and enjoy OSH. There will be less planned on those days other than
the mass formations for OSH.
Hope to see lots of registrations come in - The best beer is free beer so plan
on registering and getting in Sat 7-24.
Herb
drc@wscare.com
cell 920-639-8434
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| Subject: | Anyone flying back from OSH to WEST COAST? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
YAKers,
I will be flying back my restored Yak 50 from OSH to California on July 31 or
August 01st.
Is anyone going to be flying back at that time so we can "wolf pack it" back
to West Coast
Safety in numbers.....
********************************************************************
Mark Schrick
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email <mailto:schrick@pacbell.net> schrick@pacbell.net
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| Subject: | CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
in your CJ's?
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | [ Mark Schrick ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Mark Schrick <schrick@pacbell.net>
Subject: Aviation Consumer Article "Best Tire in Aviation" Desser Tire
Company
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/schrick@pacbell.net.07.09.2004/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures@matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 7/9/2004 6:43:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dave@davelaird.com writes:
>
> What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
> in your CJ's?
>
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
>
A M-14P is good. Plus two sets of plugs, tires, mags, and at least 2
compressors. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Dave Laird wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
>
> What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
> in your CJ's?
You won't need a lot but you want to be able to pull spark plugs and drain plugs.
This implies a select set of sockets and a ratchet wrench. You want a full
set of open-end wrenches to be able to get at other stuff too. Don't forget
an adjustable wrench and a set of screwdrivers.
I also like to carry a voltmeter for troubleshooting electrical problems too.
And carry two spare spark plugs in case one fails. Anything else and you will
need a shop to work on it.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ah hell Dave just form up with me, I carry enough spares for us all! :>)
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
cjpilot710@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ cross country tools/spares
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 7/9/2004 6:43:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dave@davelaird.com writes:
>
> What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
> in your CJ's?
>
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
A M-14P is good. Plus two sets of plugs, tires, mags, and at least 2
compressors. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Dave Laird wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
>
> What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
> in your CJ's?
Two other things: a can of safety wire and a safety wire pliers.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
My cell phone, Doug's Sapp's number and Sean's number.
With that and proximity to Fed Ex, I can deal with most things. :-)
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Laird" <dave@davelaird.com>
Subject: Yak-List: CJ cross country tools/spares
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
>
>
> What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
> in your CJ's?
>
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
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| Subject: | CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
My kit in the mini yak, which will soon be transferred to the new CJ.
1. #6 spark plug wrench
2. selection of small metric end wrenches up to 14 plus a medium Crescent
wrench (plug leads)
3. 3 or 4 spark plugs
4. 5 screw drivers (1 fine tip common, 1 medium stubby in common and
Phillips, 1 medium long each in common and Phillips.
5. roll of paper towels
6. Tyvek disposable suit. 50 cents each on Ebay-- hey, they even have
booties on them!
7. common needle nose pliers
8. safety wire, safety wire tool too if your not old school
9. Mag coil, and High tension rod I do this for others, have never needed
it myself. (Knock on wood)
10. chocks
11. ropes
12. engine oil
13. M.M. oil
14. small can of WD-40
15. plexi cleaner and polish
16. fire starter, my poncho liner from Nam, my matches and my MRE's and I'm
all set! If I am flying without my chute, I had a set of seat pads made up
which hold a tent and other survival gear.
17. a small fire ext. it's a big bother......unless you need it
Hope to see ya'll at Oshkosh.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Laird
Subject: Yak-List: CJ cross country tools/spares
--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
What tools/spares do you guys find indispensable to have when traveling
in your CJ's?
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: CJ cross country tools/spares |
--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
I would assume the CJ is similar to the Yak in this
matter.
I carry..
-Couple extra plugs
-Plug wrenches
-Screwdriver (swappable shaft type to cover phillips
and flat)
-Pliers
-Couple valve cover seals
-Numerous quick ties
Zeman
__________________________________
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
DaBear wrote;
"Matronics is listing email conversations on the web, they show in
google type searches. That leaves your email address open to spamers".
Al, Yaksters;
This is one reason a BBS like Red Stars chat ( http://www.rpatalk.com/
)is a better alternative to an email list server like Matronics. Your
email isn't available for search engines and subsequent use by spammers
on a BBS.
Personally, I have taken great pains to keep my email address from
spammers with only a modicum of success. One thing you can do is to
register with the "DO NOT CALL REGISTRY at 888-382-1222 or visit their
website https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx Not sure it will stop
email spam but they should! In any event, it won't stop international
spammers. The best thing to do is to never give out your email addy to
anyone but trusted friends.
Like I've said before, A BBS like Red Stars Chat (
http://www.rpatalk.com/ )is a better alternative if implemented
correctly but it takes allot to get people to adopt a new format. Most
people are extremely reluctant to change to something new and better and
a BBS is better once you get used to it. Try it, give it a chance and
you'll see from your own personal experience it is the better
alternative.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Hey Brian;
Since changing to a cable internet server about two months ago my spam email
has gone from at least 30% to zero. If it was generated from the Yak List I
expect it would have continued ----- Oh #%&*, now that I have mentioned it,
it probably will!
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Yak-List: SPAM purportedly from list members -- worm Rule breakdown
top-level domain
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> My SPAM load had gotten so high I changed my email address and then
resubscribed to the Yak-list with my new address. Almost immediately I
started to receive SPAM to my new email address (you can imagine how annoyed
I was at this). From what I can tell it happened when I resubscribed to the
Yak-list. Now I am starting to receive SPAM email that purports to come
from various list members. Not good.
>
> There is a new category of worms/viruses called Super Snoopers (yeah, I
know but I didn't make up the name). These worms infect your machine in
order to capture your email addresses so they can be sent to spammers. I
suspect that one or more people on this list have infected machines. This
message is to implore everyone to get a virus checker program, install it,
and keep it updated.
>
> I also recommend a program called SpyBot Search & Destroy. It is freeware
but it finds and removes "spyware" on your machine that isn't technically a
virus but is undesirable anyway (manufacturer's snoop programs, etc.) You
can get SpyBot S&D at:
>
> http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Valve Clearance |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Jim;
I presume you are discussing the M14P but whether that or the Huosai you do
not have hydraulic lifters. It seems to be a common mis-perception probably
due to the spring pressure noted during valve adjustment. This is the result
of a small spring installed to ensure that the valve lifter roller is in
constant contact with the cam ring to avoid the initial friction at lobe
contact.
Valve rocker lubrication is via pressure oil internally through the push
rods and draining (for the upper cylinders) down the push rod tube. I guess
the lower ones "drain" by forcing it up the tube- unlike P&W engines which
drain to a separate rocker sump.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Valve Clearance
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
> Frank,
> You're correct, Doug's gaskets are great.
> Now for the questions.
> We have hydraulic lifters. They pump up with oil and force oil up the
> rocker arm push rods in order to lubricate the top end. If you are
> seeing a lack of oil in the valve covers area for the top cylinders you
> may need to get better lifters. Replacing these are very labor
> intensive. It would be more fun and a lot easier to fly inverted for a
> short time, making the top of your engine the bottom. But, it's very
> unlikely that your engine has lifter problems.
> Next. Our engines have NO valve guide seals. With no seals, oil can
> move from the top end, past the valve stems, into the combustion
> chamber. The engines burn oil. The lower cylinders burn more oil because
> they are submerged in oil. If we could relieve the supersaturation
> problem, then we would burn less. Since the oil pools on the top end of
> the bottom cylinders when resting, then we will get oil moving past the
> valve stems and pooling at the back side of the exhaust and intake
> valves. The oil at the exhaust drips on the floor, and the intake oil
> can cause hydrostatic lock.
> So we ask, Is the clean kit necessary. If the engine is new the
> tolerances are close and you won't need it. If the engine is older and
> tolerances are more loose, then it would definitely help. If you have
> the money for the kit, then get it and worry less. If not, then wipe the
> floor and pull the prop through more often.
> As a post script, the oil that supersaturates the top end of the lower
> cylinders restricts rocker arm movement. It would then take more torque
> to push the rocker arm through this oil. Decreasing available HP. But,
> would the HP gain with the addition of a clean kit off set the added
> weight. Both are slight.
>
> Jim B
> N3110W
> CJ6A
>
> yak52driver@earthlink.net 07/08/04 07:57PM >>>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters;
>
> Just got done adjusting the valves on my M14.
>
> Here's the diagnosis.
>
> All valves were within tolerance except for the number 3 and 7
> cylinder
> exhaust valves. The tolerances were tight....that is the #3 measured
> .275mm and the #7 measured .280mm. Not sure if this could cause the
> rough running engine in high altitude cold air I wrote about earlier.
>
> A compression check afterwards showed normal and close to previous
> measurements. I used the spec of .3mm +.15 -.1
>
> A word of advice here, misadjusted valves could cause them to burn.
>
> Used the silicone valve cover gaskets supplied by Doug Sapp and must
> say
> they work great. Promises to stop any oil leaks from that area.
>
> This brings up a question; How are the rockers lubed? I can see the
> downward pointing cylinders were getting lots of oil but the upward
> pointing cylinders seems to not get enough. Anyone care to elaborate?
> Also, would it be beneficial if I modified my valve covers so that all
> are connected together with rubber hose? Seems that some say this will
> aid oiling or scavenging but I'm not entirely convinced.
> Thanks in advance.
> Frank
> N911OM
> YAK-52
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Frank Haertlein wrote:
> Al, Yaksters;
> This is one reason a BBS like Red Stars chat ( http://www.rpatalk.com/
> )is a better alternative to an email list server like Matronics. Your
> email isn't available for search engines and subsequent use by spammers
> on a BBS.
>
> Personally, I have taken great pains to keep my email address from
> spammers with only a modicum of success. One thing you can do is to
> register with the "DO NOT CALL REGISTRY at 888-382-1222 or visit their
> website https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx Not sure it will stop
> email spam but they should!
Beware of unintended consequences. Legal remedies rarely solve a problem and usually
create other, unforseen problems.
> In any event, it won't stop international
> spammers.
Ah, you begin to see the light.
> The best thing to do is to never give out your email addy to
> anyone but trusted friends.
Right. I can go up to a cabin in the mountains without telephone or electricity
too but the quality of life seems to deteriorate when I do that.
My solution is to use aliases. I now have aliases for my email and my real email
address is hidden. That way I can change my aliases in a second without having
to change my real email address.
> Like I've said before, A BBS like Red Stars Chat (
> http://www.rpatalk.com/ )is a better alternative if implemented
> correctly but it takes allot to get people to adopt a new format.
Uh Frank, the BBS is the oldest of electronic forums. We went away from them because
they were less convenient and less flexible. They are a throwback to teh
dumb terminals attached to modems I was playing with back in 1972.
Regardless, that isn't the point. The point is not whether Matronics or the RPA
web site is mo-better; the point is to get people to find and kill the snooper
software on their machines.
> Most
> people are extremely reluctant to change to something new and better and
> a BBS is better once you get used to it. Try it, give it a chance and
> you'll see from your own personal experience it is the better
> alternative.
The problem is, the more flexible and useful it is, the easier it is for spammers
to use it. Sure you can lock into a web-based BBS but then you are locked
into the format. You don't have any flexibility as to how your messages are processed
or formatted. I prefer the sophisticated filtering and ordering I get
from using my mail system but that is not the point.
Back in the bad-ol'-days (when I was quite young -- before I could drive) I used
to hang out on the CB radio with all my school friends. (Think, "giant party
line.") Occasionally someone would get really anti-social. If they persisted
it was not unusual for someone to drive to their house, tie the feedline of
their radio to the back of a pickup truck which would then drive away dragging
the antenna, feedline, and radio behind. Sometimes the coax would break and
leave the radio behind but more often the radio would go out through the window.
This was usually successful in communicating the community's displeasure
with antisocial behavior. Most didn't persist. It all boiled down to being
courteous to your neighbors.
I would sure like to find the "feedline" to some of these spammers.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Ray;
I know of one other person who's problem was so bad they got over 200
spam emails a day. They changed their email address at my admonition
with a warning to never give it out to anyone except close friends and
associates. Shopping on the net (and thus giving out your email address)
is a bad idea except for shopping with the bigger organizations........
and even they can be suspect. The problem is widespread and getting to
be a serious problem. There needs to be a law......and I really hate to
say that given past, untenable government intrusions in our lives. We
need a "do not call" list for email addys.
Frank
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Ray;
> I know of one other person who's problem was so bad they got over 200
> spam emails a day.
Frank, my old email address, brian@lloyd.com, had been in use for over 15 years.
I was up to 3000 spam emails a day. My SPAM filters would get 80% but what
was left over was still overwhelming. 20% of 3000 is still a really big number
to wade through every day.
> They changed their email address at my admonition
> with a warning to never give it out to anyone except close friends and
> associates. Shopping on the net (and thus giving out your email address)
> is a bad idea except for shopping with the bigger organizations........
> and even they can be suspect. The problem is widespread and getting to
> be a serious problem. There needs to be a law......
Ha ha ha. Please show me how passing a law is going to make anti-social spam-meisters
stop, specially when they are in another country. Passing unenforceable
laws is just stupid. It is like the for-show "security" we now have to put
up with. It doesn't actually do anything (except make people miss their airplanes)
but gives the *appearance* of better security. How about coming up with
something that would actually work. And let me know if you do because I have
been trying, unsuccessfully, to find a way for several years now
> and I really hate to
> say that given past, untenable government intrusions in our lives. We
> need a "do not call" list for email addys.
What you begin to discover is that the list just gets used by the spammers as a
verification of good email addresses. Why should the spammers write snooper
software when they can just subscribe to a government list of known-good email
addresses?
Remember those unintentional consequences.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Walt Lannon wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
>
> Hey Brian;
> Since changing to a cable internet server about two months ago my spam email
> has gone from at least 30% to zero. If it was generated from the Yak List I
> expect it would have continued ----- Oh #%&*, now that I have mentioned it,
> it probably will!
Someone once said to me, "cheer up, it could get worse." So I cheered up and it
did!
It could be that the mail system run by your new provider has much better SPAM
filtering. I run my own servers and don't have the money to put a big SPAM-filtering
service
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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