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1. 02:33 AM - (owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 04:56 AM - Re: Nanchang record (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 06:28 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Doug Sapp)
4. 06:48 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Ernie Martinez)
5. 07:41 AM - RPA Formation (Drew Blahnick)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Nanchang record (Brian Lloyd)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Brian Lloyd)
8. 08:05 AM - Re: Nanchang record (Richard Basiliere)
9. 08:06 AM - Time aloft (Barry Hancock)
10. 08:10 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Brian Lloyd)
11. 08:45 AM - Re: Nanchang record (Ernie)
12. 09:01 AM - Cheek replacement (Vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
13. 09:31 AM - Brakes (Ernie)
14. 09:58 AM - Fuel indicator problem (Jerome Van der Schaar)
15. 10:23 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Ernie Martinez)
16. 11:38 AM - Re: Brakes (Doug Sapp)
17. 11:47 AM - Re: Nanchang record (Doug Sapp)
18. 11:56 AM - Re: Brakes (Ernie)
19. 12:05 PM - Re: Nanchang record (Ernie)
20. 12:59 PM - Re: Nanchang record (ByronMFox@aol.com)
21. 01:42 PM - Re: Fuel indicator problem (A. Dennis Savarese)
22. 02:36 PM - Re: Nanchang record (Jorgen Nielsen)
23. 02:42 PM - Re: Fuel indicator problem (Gus Fraser)
24. 02:47 PM - Re: Fuel indicator problem (Jerome Van Der Schaar)
25. 03:58 PM - Re: Fuel indicator problem (A. Dennis Savarese)
26. 04:43 PM - Re: Nanchang record (Ernie)
27. 07:28 PM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Brian Lloyd)
28. 07:32 PM - Re: Nanchang record (Brian Lloyd)
29. 11:47 PM - Haiyan C Long Range (Vectorwarbirds@aol.com)
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--> Yak-List message posted by:
My own records are 5 hrs YAK 52 from Romanian border to Nubrandenburg german with
the first YAK 52W going to the Paris airshow
Then YAK 18T from Lithuania to near hannover 6.5 hrs
and AN2 7;50hrs.
I know Tony Smith did 12 hrs in one day from Australia to UK in his Jungmann.
Those are small records, how about the B2 crews etc flying USA- Bagdad, dropping
the load and back to USA!!
Cheers, MJ
Sorry Barry,
I claim 4hrs 50 mins as the longest Nanchang flight. It was part of my
ferry flight
from Australia to N.Z. The sector was from Norfolk Island to Auckland,
New
Zealand. I can vouch for the sorest backside. Any advances on 4.50 out
there
or is noone else that stoopid!
Graeme Frew
Nanchang 01(there can be only one!)
Best regards, Mark
www.yakuk.com
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort seat
cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and of
course, the needs of your butt. :-)
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: <Vectorwarbirds@aol.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
>
> Sorry yall but I have taken the Nanchang flight record and will not
> relinquish it without a fight. With my Haiyan C with just at 92 gals on
board did
> 6.3hrs aloft with fuel left over but my butt completely gone.
>
> Figure I can go 7.5hrs if I want to push the record up but will have to
get
> some kind of miracle seat cushion for that record.
>
> Any challengers?
>
>
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| Subject: | Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
As I am reading I am mentally calculating your take off weight and
balance!...?? :>o
With the DV fuel cells which give you 64 gallons in the wings and my aux
tanks in the center section which give you another 33 gallons, (97 gallons
total) I think I could be some serious competition for the record but would
have to have a "support crew" with a walker waiting on the other end as I
seriously doubt that I would be ambulatory. I am considering installing a 6
function (heating, cooling, pulsating, vibrating, and several other settings
that cannot be talked about in mixed company), 12 volt automotive "Shiatsu
massage" seat cushion with lumbar support, or would that be considered
cheating? Are we gonna need a H.E.R.E bottle (human element range extender)
and a bigger oil tank for this??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Frew
Subject: Yak-List: Longrange tanks downunder
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Doug,
The original Aussie owners installed an aluminium tank which sat in the back
seat. It has a line through to the front cockpit then an oh N/ohh F F
actuator then down to the collector tank. I had another tank made up that
fitted into the baggage area behind the back seat and cascaded into the back
seat tank. It gave me another 150 litres of fuel. It was all very simple and
very effective but you wouldn't want to use it all the time.
The route flown was (get out your atlas now) Coffs Harbour-Lord Howe Island
(overnight) 2.12. Next day LHI-Norfolk 3.50 Norfolk-Auckland 4.50.
It was mostly over water and the Housai never missed a beat (and believe me
I was listening carefully).
Not quite the flash tank installation I am reading about on the list but
nevertheless good for the job required.
Graeme
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| Subject: | Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I got the best long range adapter........I bought a Bonanza :) If I need
the CJ where I'm going, I'll hire a ferry pilot. Considering how many
times I really need the long range capability of the CJ, I could hire a
lot of ferry pilots for the price of the fuel mods. Obviously I haven't
counted in the cost of the Bonanza (but I did have to justify it for the
wife) :)
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Longrange tanks downunder
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
As I am reading I am mentally calculating your take off weight and
balance!...?? :>o
With the DV fuel cells which give you 64 gallons in the wings and my aux
tanks in the center section which give you another 33 gallons, (97
gallons
total) I think I could be some serious competition for the record but
would
have to have a "support crew" with a walker waiting on the other end as
I
seriously doubt that I would be ambulatory. I am considering installing
a 6
function (heating, cooling, pulsating, vibrating, and several other
settings
that cannot be talked about in mixed company), 12 volt automotive
"Shiatsu
massage" seat cushion with lumbar support, or would that be considered
cheating? Are we gonna need a H.E.R.E bottle (human element range
extender)
and a bigger oil tank for this??
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Frew
Subject: Yak-List: Longrange tanks downunder
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Doug,
The original Aussie owners installed an aluminium tank which sat in the
back
seat. It has a line through to the front cockpit then an oh N/ohh F F
actuator then down to the collector tank. I had another tank made up
that
fitted into the baggage area behind the back seat and cascaded into the
back
seat tank. It gave me another 150 litres of fuel. It was all very simple
and
very effective but you wouldn't want to use it all the time.
The route flown was (get out your atlas now) Coffs Harbour-Lord Howe
Island
(overnight) 2.12. Next day LHI-Norfolk 3.50 Norfolk-Auckland 4.50.
It was mostly over water and the Housai never missed a beat (and believe
me
I was listening carefully).
Not quite the flash tank installation I am reading about on the list but
nevertheless good for the job required.
Graeme
==
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==
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Drew Blahnick" <drewblahnick@hotmail.com>
Dave King has submitted a brieing card and knee board that has been made
available as a download from the formation section of the RPA site.
Oshkoshers may find it useful!
Thanks Dave,
Drew
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort seat
> cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and of
> course, the needs of your butt. :-)
I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in under two
hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle. Say what you
will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat cushion.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Doug Sapp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> As I am reading I am mentally calculating your take off weight and
> balance!...?? :>o
They will haul a lot more than you think.
> With the DV fuel cells which give you 64 gallons in the wings and my aux
> tanks in the center section which give you another 33 gallons, (97 gallons
> total)
Ahh, that is what I wanted to hear.
> I think I could be some serious competition for the record but would
> have to have a "support crew" with a walker waiting on the other end as I
> seriously doubt that I would be ambulatory. I am considering installing a 6
> function (heating, cooling, pulsating, vibrating, and several other settings
> that cannot be talked about in mixed company), 12 volt automotive "Shiatsu
> massage" seat cushion with lumbar support, or would that be considered
> cheating?
Absolutely not. We are talking about modifying support systems in the aircraft.
Just as larger fuel tanks are acceptable, comfortable seats are also. BTW,
I recommend one from Oregon Aero. They have the ability to craft one to the
shape of your butt and your weight to optimize performance.
> Are we gonna need a H.E.R.E bottle (human element range extender)
> and a bigger oil tank for this??
I find that in long-distance cruise the engine uses less oil than it does in maneuvering
flight. You may find that your are OK on the oil.
As for the H.E.R.E, on my flights across the pond I found a 1-gallon plastic milk
jug to be suitable. We of course engage in the "pouring of the jug" ceremony
when we debark from the aircraft in a new country. It is a suitably solemn
occasion that enhances one's stature in the eyes of the indigenous population.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
I got one for the Sukhoi. Thank you Oregon Aero. 72 gallons does you
no good if your butt max's out at 2:00
Leaving for OSH @1200
RickyB
>>> brianl@lloyd.com 7/27/2004 8:54:39 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<adsavar@gte.net>
>
> I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort
seat
> cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and
of
> course, the needs of your butt. :-)
I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
under two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the
saddle. Say what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable
seat cushion.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
On Jul 26, 2004, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> Sorry Barry,
> I claim 4hrs 50 mins as the longest Nanchang flight. It was part of my
> ferry flight
> from Australia to N.Z.
Graham, et. al.,
Well, I'm glad I mentioned it because it brought the info out of the
wood work. After my almost 4 hour flight I would rather endure 2 days
of Chinese water torture than compete with you kooks! :)
6+ hours, Gary? The men in white suits will be arriving at your house
shortly....
Barry "no Iron Butt here" Hancock
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| Subject: | Re: Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ernie Martinez wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I got the best long range adapter........I bought a Bonanza :)
That is why I still have the Comanche.
BTW, I put 45 hours on it this last two weeks. I have flow from the Virgin Islands
to the Grand Canyon, DC, and back to the Virgin Islands again. I experienced
something I have never before seen in my 6500 hours of flying: tailwinds
the whole trip. I spent less than 15 minutes in 45 hours where my groundspeed
was less than my true air speed. I never expect to experience this again in
my life.
BTW, I also spent much of the time sucking on O2 at 16,500' and 17,500'. I am
amazed at how well the Comanche performs up high. It let me get into favorable
winds when I otherwise might not have.
Higher altitudes are clearly the way to stretch the range of the aircraft. That
is how I was able to fly a 3+10 leg in the stock CJ6A; go high, turn down the
RPM, and use the winds to make up for the reduced TAS. I flew a 450nm leg that
way in a CJ with stock fuel.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I use the oregon aero cushions in the L-29. I'm good for about 2 hours then
I start to hurt.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
<BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
>
> I got one for the Sukhoi. Thank you Oregon Aero. 72 gallons does you
> no good if your butt max's out at 2:00
> Leaving for OSH @1200
> RickyB
>
> >>> brianl@lloyd.com 7/27/2004 8:54:39 AM >>>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort
> seat
> > cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and
> of
> > course, the needs of your butt. :-)
>
> I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
> under two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the
> saddle. Say what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable
> seat cushion.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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| Subject: | Cheek replacement |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
They have a really good Butt Cheek replacement guy down in Phoenix that I
used after the big flight. Silicone I think.
I have replaced the cushion foam with that stuff they use on those space
mattresses you see in the magazines, temperpedic or something like it. Found it
on ebay cut to size and 4" thick. It works. Cheap too.
Best item I added to my CJ was the relief system, man that thing is priceless
and now I don't need a girlfriend anymore! Saving money now!!
And for you w&b guys my Haiyan states a gross weight of 4486 pounds and I go
out at just under 3800 loaded up. I have the 345hp engine tho.
Tally Ho!
Bunnski
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Lately when I've needed to turn left, the aircraft wouldnt respond immediately,
I would have to brake hard and eventually it would grab. But the plane stops
straight with no problem and does eventually turn just fine once it grabbed.
Is it my left brake NOT engaging, or could it be my right brake not DISENGAGING?
Could it be as simple as a dirty QS1 valve?
Any thought would be appreciated.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Fuel indicator problem |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
During flying my right led fuel indicator dropped from 40 to 12. The left
one indicates normal.
The right one stays on 12 now, no matter fuelling up the tank or not, so it
must be electrical somehow I assume. Where to look?
Jerome
www.yakkes.com
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| Subject: | Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Brian,
I'd love to have your waypoint list to the USVI from Fl. I someday hope
to have the courage to fly over water with a single engine. With the new
spam can with its long legs, this is now more of a reality. Your
experience with fuel stops and such would be greatly appreciated.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Longrange tanks downunder
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ernie Martinez wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez"
<ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> I got the best long range adapter........I bought a Bonanza :)
That is why I still have the Comanche.
BTW, I put 45 hours on it this last two weeks. I have flow from the
Virgin Islands to the Grand Canyon, DC, and back to the Virgin Islands
again. I experienced something I have never before seen in my 6500
hours of flying: tailwinds the whole trip. I spent less than 15 minutes
in 45 hours where my groundspeed was less than my true air speed. I
never expect to experience this again in my life.
BTW, I also spent much of the time sucking on O2 at 16,500' and 17,500'.
I am amazed at how well the Comanche performs up high. It let me get
into favorable winds when I otherwise might not have.
Higher altitudes are clearly the way to stretch the range of the
aircraft. That is how I was able to fly a 3+10 leg in the stock CJ6A;
go high, turn down the RPM, and use the winds to make up for the reduced
TAS. I flew a 450nm leg that way in a CJ with stock fuel.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
==
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
The QS1 only regulates air pressure to the brakes. If your brakes are
working fine when stopping straight ahead, then I doubt it's your QS1. Next
in line is the QS2 which is most likely your problem. The QS2 is very
touchy about being kept clean, I'll say it one more time, check your water
filter often, if you live in Florida or some other very humid location,
check it twice as often. Folks, this is one of those "take care now or pay
the piper later" things, once you contaminate your air system down stream of
the filter you will be fighting it from now on. These aircraft are very
simple, but they will not tolerate (at least for very long) inattention to
maintenance of the air system.
I carry complete new units and overhaul parts for both the QS1 and QS2
valves. I now also carry desiccant and filter recharge kits for the long
filters.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: Brakes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Lately when I've needed to turn left, the aircraft wouldnt respond
immediately, I would have to brake hard and eventually it would grab. But
the plane stops straight with no problem and does eventually turn just fine
once it grabbed.
Is it my left brake NOT engaging, or could it be my right brake not
DISENGAGING? Could it be as simple as a dirty QS1 valve?
Any thought would be appreciated.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Is that because they have removed a big wad of cash from the area of your
right butt cheek and now your sitting in a more level position? I would
like to be more comfortable, but I think I would complain more about the
$700.00 seat cost than I would about my aching ass!!
Brian wrote:
>I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in under
two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle. Say
what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat cushion.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort seat
> cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and of
> course, the needs of your butt. :-)
I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in under
two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle. Say
what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat cushion.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Ok, I meant to say the QS2, this is the device which directs the air,
correct???
I had opened up my filter last march during annual and it was very clean and
dry.
I am assuming that you beleive it is the valve also.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Brakes
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> The QS1 only regulates air pressure to the brakes. If your brakes are
> working fine when stopping straight ahead, then I doubt it's your QS1.
Next
> in line is the QS2 which is most likely your problem. The QS2 is very
> touchy about being kept clean, I'll say it one more time, check your water
> filter often, if you live in Florida or some other very humid location,
> check it twice as often. Folks, this is one of those "take care now or
pay
> the piper later" things, once you contaminate your air system down stream
of
> the filter you will be fighting it from now on. These aircraft are very
> simple, but they will not tolerate (at least for very long) inattention to
> maintenance of the air system.
>
> I carry complete new units and overhaul parts for both the QS1 and QS2
> valves. I now also carry desiccant and filter recharge kits for the long
> filters.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Brakes
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Lately when I've needed to turn left, the aircraft wouldnt respond
> immediately, I would have to brake hard and eventually it would grab. But
> the plane stops straight with no problem and does eventually turn just
fine
> once it grabbed.
>
> Is it my left brake NOT engaging, or could it be my right brake not
> DISENGAGING? Could it be as simple as a dirty QS1 valve?
>
> Any thought would be appreciated.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
My cushion which I use in the jet cost me about $125 I beleive.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Is that because they have removed a big wad of cash from the area of your
> right butt cheek and now your sitting in a more level position? I would
> like to be more comfortable, but I think I would complain more about the
> $700.00 seat cost than I would about my aching ass!!
>
> Brian wrote:
> >I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
under
> two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle. Say
> what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat cushion.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous comfort
seat
> > cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and of
> > course, the needs of your butt. :-)
>
> I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in under
> two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle. Say
> what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat cushion.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Gary, we spoke briefly about your CJ at Arlington. It's so unusual that I
think everyone would enjoy hearing about its history in detail along with
pictures. Very cool airplane. ...Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator problem |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Unfortunately Jerome, most likely you'll need to replace the fuel level
indicator/instrument. It is one of the more complex devices on the Yak. I
know of no one who can repair it here in the states. You can trouble shoot
the problem by swapping connectors on the back side of the instrument. Not
too easy, but certainly doable. The problem should NOT follow the
connector. If it does, then the problem is outside of the indicator and
most likely the fuel level sender in the tank. But that is less likely.
You may even see a different problem on the failed side. But if it's the
instrument, the problems will remain on the same side.
Good luck.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar"
<jvds30@hotmail.com>
>
> During flying my right led fuel indicator dropped from 40 to 12. The left
> one indicates normal.
> The right one stays on 12 now, no matter fuelling up the tank or not, so
it
> must be electrical somehow I assume. Where to look?
>
> Jerome
> www.yakkes.com
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Hi Ernie
Maybe dumb question, but how does the cushion fit with the chute?
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
My cushion which I use in the jet cost me about $125 I beleive.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Is that because they have removed a big wad of cash from the area of
> your right butt cheek and now your sitting in a more level position?
> I would like to be more comfortable, but I think I would complain more
> about the $700.00 seat cost than I would about my aching ass!!
>
> Brian wrote:
> >I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
under
> two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle.
> Say what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat
> cushion.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> > --> <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous
> > comfort
seat
> > cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and
> > of course, the needs of your butt. :-)
>
> I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
> under two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the
> saddle. Say what you will but they know how to make a very
> comfortable seat cushion.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good
> citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator problem |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Denis,
I fixed mine. In basic terms the indicator is a D to A converter with what
amounts to a vu meter on the output (the more volts the more segments light
up. In my case the 'units' wire was broken. This caused eratic quantity
display.
Hope this helps
Gus
___
N52EK
It's a Russian thing
http://gusfraser.com
...... Original Message .......
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:40:50 -0500 "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
>Unfortunately Jerome, most likely you'll need to replace the fuel level
>indicator/instrument. It is one of the more complex devices on the Yak. I
>know of no one who can repair it here in the states. You can trouble shoot
>the problem by swapping connectors on the back side of the instrument. Not
>too easy, but certainly doable. The problem should NOT follow the
>connector. If it does, then the problem is outside of the indicator and
>most likely the fuel level sender in the tank. But that is less likely.
>You may even see a different problem on the failed side. But if it's the
>instrument, the problems will remain on the same side.
>Good luck.
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar"
><jvds30@hotmail.com>
>>
>> During flying my right led fuel indicator dropped from 40 to 12. The left
>> one indicates normal.
>> The right one stays on 12 now, no matter fuelling up the tank or not, so
>it
>> must be electrical somehow I assume. Where to look?
>>
>> Jerome
>> www.yakkes.com
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator problem |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
Thanks Dennis,
WIll have a look at it tomorrow. It look's like I would be able to fly it
anyway but I better be carefull.
Within a couple weeks I do have somebody over from the from Moscow factory.
He might replace the level indicator.
I'll try to switch the indicators tomorrow, see what it does.
Thanks again.
Jerome
-------Original Message-------
From: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Unfortunately Jerome, most likely you'll need to replace the fuel level
indicator/instrument. It is one of the more complex devices on the Yak. I
know of no one who can repair it here in the states. You can trouble shoot
the problem by swapping connectors on the back side of the instrument. Not
too easy, but certainly doable. The problem should NOT follow the
connector. If it does, then the problem is outside of the indicator and
most likely the fuel level sender in the tank. But that is less likely.
You may even see a different problem on the failed side. But if it's the
instrument, the problems will remain on the same side.
Good luck.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar"
<jvds30@hotmail.com>
>
> During flying my right led fuel indicator dropped from 40 to 12. The left
> one indicates normal.
> The right one stays on 12 now, no matter fuelling up the tank or not, so
it
> must be electrical somehow I assume. Where to look?
>
> Jerome
> www.yakkes.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel indicator problem |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Can I send you one to repair? -) Mine also had an erratic quantity display.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Denis,
> I fixed mine. In basic terms the indicator is a D to A converter with what
> amounts to a vu meter on the output (the more volts the more segments
light
> up. In my case the 'units' wire was broken. This caused eratic quantity
> display.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Gus
> ___
> N52EK
> It's a Russian thing
> http://gusfraser.com
>
> ...... Original Message .......
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:40:50 -0500 "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> wrote:
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
> >
> >Unfortunately Jerome, most likely you'll need to replace the fuel level
> >indicator/instrument. It is one of the more complex devices on the Yak.
I
> >know of no one who can repair it here in the states. You can trouble
shoot
> >the problem by swapping connectors on the back side of the instrument.
Not
> >too easy, but certainly doable. The problem should NOT follow the
> >connector. If it does, then the problem is outside of the indicator and
> >most likely the fuel level sender in the tank. But that is less likely.
> >You may even see a different problem on the failed side. But if it's the
> >instrument, the problems will remain on the same side.
> >Good luck.
> >Dennis
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
> >To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Yak-List: Fuel indicator problem
> >
> >
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar"
> ><jvds30@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> During flying my right led fuel indicator dropped from 40 to 12. The
left
> >> one indicates normal.
> >> The right one stays on 12 now, no matter fuelling up the tank or not,
so
> >it
> >> must be electrical somehow I assume. Where to look?
> >>
> >> Jerome
> >> www.yakkes.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Not a dumb question at all. It fits great on top of the russian chute, this
is the way I use it. I'm not sure how well ut would work on a C9 in the CJ
or Yak, unless you removed the stock cushion and used the Oregon aero in its
place.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Ernie
>
> Maybe dumb question, but how does the cushion fit with the chute?
>
> Jorgen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> My cushion which I use in the jet cost me about $125 I beleive.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nanchang record
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > Is that because they have removed a big wad of cash from the area of
> > your right butt cheek and now your sitting in a more level position?
> > I would like to be more comfortable, but I think I would complain more
>
> > about the $700.00 seat cost than I would about my aching ass!!
> >
> > Brian wrote:
> > >I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
> under
> > two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the saddle.
> > Say what you will but they know how to make a very comfortable seat
> > cushion.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang record
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
> >
> > A. Dennis Savarese wrote:
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> > > --> <adsavar@gte.net>
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure Oregon Aero, www.oregonaero.com, the infamous
> > > comfort
> seat
> > > cushion manufacturers, would be happy to accommodate your needs and
> > > of course, the needs of your butt. :-)
> >
> > I had one of their seats made for my RV-4. I went from dead-butt in
> > under two hours to comfortable butt after over eight hours in the
> > saddle. Say what you will but they know how to make a very
> > comfortable seat cushion.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> > http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> > +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
> >
> > There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good
> > citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
> >
> >
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ernie Martinez wrote:
> I'd love to have your waypoint list to the USVI from Fl. I someday hope
> to have the courage to fly over water with a single engine. With the new
> spam can with its long legs, this is now more of a reality. Your
> experience with fuel stops and such would be greatly appreciated.
Well, I am sure you will get disagreement from many but I view long over-water
flights as less risky than flights over the mountainous areas of the Western United
States. My chances of surviving a ditching and getting rescued are much,
much higher than my chances of surviving a forced landing in the Sierra Nevada.
But water really scares some people.
Many airports don't have fuel so you have to plan accordingly. You certainly cannot
assume you will be able to fill up wherever you land so you must plan your
stops to leave ample fuel by the time you reach an airport with fuel. In my
recent flight to St. Lucia I had to hop back to Martinique to get fuel. They
only have diesel and jet-A at St. Lucia.
I normally do the trip from Florida to St. Thomas with one fuel stop. It used
to be at Providenciales in the Turks & Caicos but two things killed that for me.
At Provo they have fees for their fees, e.g. a landing fee, a handling fee,
a customs fee, an after-hours customs fee on the weekend, etc. Also, the US
government requires a "waiver" from the TSA if I land in the Turks & Caicos (no
reason why that I can discern) and that takes two weeks to obtain. OTOH, every
time I have gotten close to the US the folks at flight service have obtained
for me an "instant" wavier after a bunch of questions so perhaps that is less
of an issue. Regardless, if you go to or from the Bahamas, a wavier is not
required.
So I have started going to Great Inagua, the last island in the Bahamas chain.
This is a nice little island but definitely not a tourist stop. OTOH, the people
are really nice and usually bend over backward to accommodate me. There
are no fees other than the cost of gas for the plane. They even fill out my customs
forms for me and ask me to come back again. OK, facilities aren't as nice
but the gas guys are always willing to give me a ride into town to grab a
sandwich. Also, after a little problem with the phone system preventing me from
notifying them of my impending arrival, the customs and fuel guys gave me their
home and cell phone numbers so I can get hold of them directly. That seems
pretty accommodating to me.
If you are coming up short on fuel range there are a couple of places I know for
sure have fuel:
Freeport, Grand Bahama
Nassau, Bahamas
Stella Maris, Bahamas
Great Inagua, Bahamas
(one more in the Bahamas I can't remember)
Puerta Plata, Dominican Republic
Boqueron, Puerto Rico
San Juan, Puerto Rico
Fajardo, Puerto Rico
St. Thomas
These are also airports of entry so you can clear customs there too.
I suspect I could craft a route that would allow a Yak-52 with stock fuel make
the trip comfortably and safely.
Regardless, not all fuel stops are created equal. I have been told that Puerta
Plata is as usurious in their fuel cost and fees as Providenciales. Since I
can comfortably fly a 500nm leg in the Comanche, I just opt for going to the places
that work best for me.
Still, I plan to do a "visit all the airports" trip one of these days. Frankly,
the fun trip is to go down-island from St. Thomas. The longest over-water leg
there is only about 60nm from Virgin Gorda in the British Virgin Islands to
St. Martin. After that leg you are always within sight of an island. It makes
navigation pretty easy.
The French islands are far and away the most hospitable to GA aircraft with customs
and immigration clearance being a delight. You drop your general declaration
forms in the little mailbox attached to the unattended customs building and
go on your way. Boy, when the House of Representatives renamed "French Fries"
"Freedom Fries" they sure got that right. The French still seem to understand
freedom whereas we seem to have forgotten it here in the US.
If you are interested in flying down here I strongly recommend you pick up a copy of the Bahamas & Caribbean Pilot's Guide from Pilot Publications in San Diego (http://www.pilotpub.com). Many of the jumping-off airports in Florida carry this book. It is a must for flying down here as it has all the information about all the airports. It even has the approach plates for the major airports in the Caribbean (not for navigation, of course).
You know, it might be fun to have an ARS event down here. St. Thomas has a great
airport. Puerto Rico is just 30 minutes away with many more airports to choose
from. I guarantee good places to debrief after a day of flying. Also, I
can take everyone out for a sail and a dive on my boat. It could be worse.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang record |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Doug Sapp wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Is that because they have removed a big wad of cash from the area of your
> right butt cheek and now your sitting in a more level position? I would
> like to be more comfortable, but I think I would complain more about the
> $700.00 seat cost than I would about my aching ass!!
I paid $450 for my seat in the RV-4. Regardless, I know people who pay $1000 for
a set of Bose headsets and the Oregon Aero seat is a lot more important to
comfort than is the headset.
It all comes down to what you want most.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
Message 29
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| Subject: | Haiyan C Long Range |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Vectorwarbirds@aol.com
Thanks Blitz, Nice meeting you up at Arlington. See the data and pictures
on my Haiyan C at:
www.vectorwarbirds.com
Hope some of you guys can make Wendover, have 6 going so far.
Tally Ho!
Bunnski
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