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1. 05:42 AM - Re: Fall clinic (Brian Lloyd)
2. 06:40 AM - Re: Longrange tanks downunder (Ernie)
3. 07:00 AM - Re: Fall clinic (Ernie)
4. 07:41 AM - New Thread... (Ross Bausone)
5. 02:47 PM - Specialization (was: Longrange tanks downunder) (Brian Lloyd)
6. 03:42 PM - All Red Star DVD (Num1Pilot@aol.com)
7. 06:41 PM - Re: New Thread... (A. Dennis Savarese)
8. 10:53 PM - Yak 55M plus M14PF (Royden Heays)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Barry Hancock wrote:
> The bottom line is we now understand that people's fun meter pegs at
> different levels. Many are interested in doing "something more" but
> have had the impression that it's either "full up ACM, or bust." By
> breaking the training into three separate levels that are an end unto
> themselves, hopefully there will be something for everyone. I do know
> this, at the end of the day it's just more fun to see 16 airplanes
> parked on the ramp as opposed to 8 or 10...no matter wether you're
> learning a "shackle turn" in tac form, or teaching the finer points of
> a "rolling scissors" in ACM.
>
> As this is simply the latest concept in a young and developing area of
> our association, I would appreciate your feedback. Please email me
> directly at radialpower@cox.net.
You foster more discussion in a public forum than a private one. Ideas amplify.
I guess that this seems pretty obvious to me. You solo before you go cross country
and you typically get your private pilot's rating before you start in on
acro.
So you cook up a syllabus that covers all the areas. Form can be an end in-and-of
itself with no ACM even on the horizon just like there are guys with floatplane
ratings who don't do acro and vice-versa. (Not entirely a good analogy
since the formation skills come into play when doing ACM but you get my drift.)
I guess my question is, why did it take you this long to figure it out? ;-)
Hey, remember how I took you through CJ6A familiarization? Just expand on the
concept.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Longrange tanks downunder |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Reminds me of when I took my boat to Green Turtle Cay years ago. The guy who
helped me with my lines at the doc, was also the guy who waited on my table
at dinner and later that night was the guitar player in the islands only
band. There were 2 bars on the island but only one would be open at the time
since the band could only play at one place at a time. Didnt make much
difference though, since it was the same people at both bars.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Longrange tanks downunder
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> Ernie wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> >
> > I cheked it out on my flight planner, Great Inuagua would be a good
stop.
>
> Of course it would. I told you so. ;
> )
>
> When you get ready to go I will give you a pocket full of phone numbers.
You need the number for the general store where the guy who pumps fuel hangs
out. The woman there will also line up the Customs guy. If that doesn't
work I can help you with their cell phones. If all else fails you can call
the chief constable at home. Nope, not in the US!
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Sounds like a great idea, I enjoy TAC form and tail chase, but am not really
into busting a nut trying to keep conscious. And to be quite honest, I did
some BFM recently and wasnt too crazy about the close quarter manuvering,
trying to set up for a shot.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Fall clinic
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> Hope this flying season is treating you well. After months of market
> research we have determined that a slightly different course is needed
> to open up advanced formation training to the masses.
>
> What we have discovered is that there is a large contingent of intrepid
> aviators that are interested in tactical formation and tail chase
> exercises, but are not altogether "psyched" over the requisite G's of
> ACM. To this end, we have decided to tailor the program differently
> than we have up to this point.
>
> In order to have higher levels of participation, tactical formation,
> tail chase, and actual simulated Air Combat Maneuvers are going to be
> an end unto themselves. Why, you ask? Well, it seems there are a lot
> of folks that want to do a lot of ACM type stuff, but that have no
> desire to make their necks scream or toy with G-LOC. Frankly, I can't
> blame you. It takes a rather twisted mind to intentionally subject
> yourself and your airplane to that type of abuse...right, Keith? :)
>
> The tactical formation syllabus will guide FAST qualified pilots
> through the next step in formation training, or "advanced formation."
> Not only is this much more dynamic and fun than parade station keeping,
> it is a useful cross-country tool and, most importantly, another reason
> to go flying on the weekend! The ground school for this is a mere
> 40-60 minutes. Training will take 3-4 hops for both comm in and comm
> out procedures. Comm out will come in especially handy when you're
> raiding a T-34 base...
>
> The "tail chase" (c'mon, gang, I'm talking about airplanes here...stick
> with me!) syllabus is where it gets really fun...without a lot of G's.
> Here you will learn lead and lag pursuit, hi and low yo-yo's, and lag
> rolls. All very fun... without having to visit the chiropractor on
> Monday! Ground school for this is, again, about 40-60 minutes.
> Training hops will be as many and as much fun (read "anywhere from all
> horizontal to pure vertical") as you can handle.
>
> Of course, by this point, you may just have had your mind twisted
> enough to forge on with ACM....and Keith and I will be the first to
> console you on your move to the truly dark side. :) The dynamics of
> ACM are exponentially expanded when you compare them to tail chase, and
> it does require some academic understanding. For example, "rolling
> G's" are an important concept to understand, and we will spend some
> time covering topics such as this during the ground school. The good
> thing is, with both the Tac Form, and tail chase under your belt, the
> ACM ground school will be in the 60-75 minute range.
>
> The bottom line is we now understand that people's fun meter pegs at
> different levels. Many are interested in doing "something more" but
> have had the impression that it's either "full up ACM, or bust." By
> breaking the training into three separate levels that are an end unto
> themselves, hopefully there will be something for everyone. I do know
> this, at the end of the day it's just more fun to see 16 airplanes
> parked on the ramp as opposed to 8 or 10...no matter wether you're
> learning a "shackle turn" in tac form, or teaching the finer points of
> a "rolling scissors" in ACM.
>
> As this is simply the latest concept in a young and developing area of
> our association, I would appreciate your feedback. Please email me
> directly at radialpower@cox.net.
>
> Additionally, we would like to try this setup out at a fall clinic in
> California. We will decide on a location based on the place central to
> most participating pilots. Please email me if you are interested, and
> what dates in September/October work for you.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Your humble servant,
>
> Barry
>
>
> Barry Hancock
> Western Regional Coordinator
> RedStar Pilots Association
> (949) 300-5510
> www.flyredstar.org
> "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"
>
>
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Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:41:38 -0700
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
At the risk of asking a mundane maintenance related question...
What do people set their plug gaps at? Re the Ivchenko M14P engine in the Yak.
I guess that's a bit open ended. We are using REL37B Champions with adapters for
the harness connections.
We've gotten elliptical wear on both wires, and the center electrode, and are replacing
the plugs. I was about to take a small screwdriver to the wires and open
them up slightly but thought I might damage the center electrode.
I looked up "spark plug gap tools" and they come in large and expensive or small
(and looks like a modified screwdriver) and inexpensive.
I was told we were setting the plug gap at 0.025 inch, however Champion recommends
0.016-0.021 inch. I was curious what others were doing, and how operations
were affected...
Kind regards,
Ross (no killer moniker yet) Bausone :0
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| Subject: | Specialization (was: Longrange tanks downunder) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ernie wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Reminds me of when I took my boat to Green Turtle Cay years ago. The guy who
> helped me with my lines at the doc, was also the guy who waited on my table
> at dinner and later that night was the guitar player in the islands only
> band. There were 2 bars on the island but only one would be open at the time
> since the band could only play at one place at a time. Didnt make much
> difference though, since it was the same people at both bars.
No sense in specializing in a small town, is there. I am starting to learn that
down here and am finally getting busy.
On a different note (dealing with Department of Homeland Stupidity which affects
pilots so I deem it within the bounds of a reasonable topic for this mailing
list), I was sitting on the people ferry from St. John today and listening to
their new security briefing tape that they play as the boat pulls out. This
is very much like the standard safety briefing you get from the flight attendants
but has some new stuff added. For instance, it starts droning on about the
DHS and the Coast Guard and then gets into how, because of the new regulation,
if you stand up before the boat comes to a complete stop they may never let
you ride again. (I kid you not!) It was annoying. Having heard this now for
three days in a row (I have been working over on St. John this past week) and
being primed by the criminally stupid requirement to "inspect" passengers as they
get on the ferry (I notice that they have stopped "wanding" everyone now)
I finally got fed up and voiced my opinion at the end
of the taped rant:
"Oh shut the f--- up," I breathed.
I didn't yell or anything. It really was an under-my-breath thing. All I know
is that the half the boat near me erupted into laughter and all the guys are
high-fiving me and fist-butting me. (I don't know what you call it but you show
respect by gently punching the other guy's fist. It's an island thing.) I
guess maybe the new security rules aren't that popular.
Maybe I am seeing this all wrong. Is everyone else happy with the way things seem
to be going. Is it just me?
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | All Red Star DVD |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Num1Pilot@aol.com
The All Red Star DVD and CD compilation of pictures are complete! It will
be duplicated and packaged next week so expect to have it in your mailboxes
within two weeks. It is a FIRST CLASS product that consists of a DVD that is
29 minutes long which is broken up into six exciting segments (An Opening
Music Video, Props, Jets, Crud, Formation Challenge, and The Riviting Closing
Music Video). You will also get a CD that is FULL of All Red Star III pictures.
Cynthia, Julie, and Toni did an outstanding job capturing the weekends
activites.
If you didn't order a DVD and CD package and want to, please let me know off
the list and I will make you a copy while we are producing. You will need
to mail me the check ASAP so I can have yours sent out with everyone elses.
This is totally worth it for the DVD, it shows almost every plane and
activity that went on during the weekend. If you were there, you are most likely
in the video.
Now the cost is $35.00 (it would have been $25.00 if you bought it at the
banquet) - but that is less than the cost of 1 hour of AVGAS. This is cheap
considering the quality of the videos and the memories it portrays, trust me!
Hope to see you at the next All Red Star if I am not stuck in Spain with the
Navy!
-Postal
Hartley Postlethwaite
1861 Cherry St #4
Jacksonville, FL 32205
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| Subject: | Re: New Thread... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
The Russian spark plug gap IAW the M14 manual is .4 to .46 mm (.016 - .018).
We set the Champion REL37B's to .018 - .019) using the wire type gapping
tool. We have been buying the Chinese replacement spark plugs from Doug
Sapp for the M14. They are virtually identical and work perfectly AND they
come with a gapping tool made specifically for the massive electrode plug.
Much less expensive than the $32 or so you'll pay for the Champion plugs.
Both the Russian and Chinese plugs are massive electrode versus wire and
tend to last much longer than the Champion plugs. Be sure to pressure test
the Champion plugs when cleaning and regapping them.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: New Thread...
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
>
> At the risk of asking a mundane maintenance related question...
>
> What do people set their plug gaps at? Re the Ivchenko M14P engine in the
Yak.
>
> I guess that's a bit open ended. We are using REL37B Champions with
adapters for the harness connections.
>
> We've gotten elliptical wear on both wires, and the center electrode, and
are replacing the plugs. I was about to take a small screwdriver to the
wires and open them up slightly but thought I might damage the center
electrode.
>
> I looked up "spark plug gap tools" and they come in large and expensive or
small (and looks like a modified screwdriver) and inexpensive.
>
> I was told we were setting the plug gap at 0.025 inch, however Champion
recommends 0.016-0.021 inch. I was curious what others were doing, and how
operations were affected...
>
> Kind regards,
> Ross (no killer moniker yet) Bausone :0
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak 55M plus M14PF |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net>
Have any of you put an M14PF-400HP into a Yak 55M, either new or by kit
conversion of the M14P. If so, what are the pros and cons. I am
interested in comments on flight performance for aerobatics, engine oil
temps, cylinder head temps, problems, etc. What prop was used.
Royden Heays
C-GRED
Yak 55M
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