---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/12/04: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:45 AM - Re: Re: More smoke (cjpilot710@aol.com) 2. 06:41 AM - Exactly (Tim Gagnon) 3. 07:21 AM - (Jerry Painter) 4. 07:56 AM - Re: (Jim and Vivian) 5. 08:40 AM - Re: Exactly (Brian Lloyd) 6. 09:41 AM - Drew Eginton please (TC Johnson) 7. 11:28 AM - Yak electrical system (Jerome Van der Schaar) 8. 11:30 AM - Smoke system (Jerome Van der Schaar) 9. 12:02 PM - Re: Smoke system (Coffey, John) 10. 01:03 PM - Re: Smoke system (Richard Basiliere) 11. 01:18 PM - paint schemes (YakL1@aol.com) 12. 02:08 PM - Re: paint schemes (Doug Sapp) 13. 03:12 PM - NBC (Bob Fitzpatrick) 14. 03:40 PM - Re: NBC (Bob Fitzpatrick) 15. 03:57 PM - Re: (Jim and Vivian) 16. 06:05 PM - Re: NBC (Brian Lloyd) 17. 06:17 PM - Re: [SPAM] - Smoke system - Email found in subject (Jay Land) 18. 06:42 PM - Re: NBC (Terry) 19. 08:22 PM - Re: paint schemes (YakL1@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:26 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: More smoke --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 8/12/2004 2:25:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, radialpower@cox.net writes: > >changed the subject to my not understanding how he hell anyone would > >put > >syrup on his bacon!! :>) YOU MEAN THERE ARE OTHERS ON THIS PLANET THAT PUT SYRUP ON THEIR BACON? Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:35 AM PST US From: "Tim Gagnon" Subject: Yak-List: Exactly Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:38:15 -0400 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" "How ironic...CNN *is* part of what's wrong with the world...." Exactly! My point was that they never put the things that are right in this world on. While in the desert during the war, we were forced to watch either CNN or Fox. We preferred Fox. What was even better...our daily intel briefs. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:42 AM PST US From: "Jerry Painter" Subject: Yak-List: 1.2 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" Folks, I'm looking for a solid state voltage regulator for a 1982 CJ-6A. Anyone out there have such an animal? Our friend in Omak no has none. Jerry Painter Wild Blue Aviation 425-258-4522/425-876-0865 Wild.Blue@verizon.net http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:03 AM PST US From: "Jim and Vivian" Subject: Re: Yak-List: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" Jerry Call me I probably have one. Jim Selby 831 883-1266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Painter" Subject: Yak-List: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" > > Folks, > > I'm looking for a solid state voltage regulator for a 1982 CJ-6A. Anyone > out there have such an animal? Our friend in Omak no has none. > > Jerry Painter > Wild Blue Aviation > 425-258-4522/425-876-0865 > Wild.Blue@verizon.net > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:43 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: Exactly --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd On Aug 12, 2004, at 9:38 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > "How ironic...CNN *is* part of what's wrong with the world...." > > Exactly! My point was that they never put the things that are right in > this world on. While in the desert during the war, we were forced to > watch either CNN or Fox. We preferred Fox. What was even better...our > daily intel briefs. A news organization that operates by selling advertising is just as captive to ratings as is any other TV show with which it competes. Therefore it needs to present those things that generate more viewers. That requires sensationalism as the people want to be entertained. This then provides a slanted view of the world that is no longer "news". Now my friends, given that most of us tend toward the conservative, market-driven viewpoint I ask: how do you have news organization free from market pressures? It seems to me this requires the resources of government involvement. I guess the community-supported "NPR/PBS" model works after a fashion but even they are driven by their need to get the community to put up dollars which places them right back into being market driven. So we are back to government support and I abhor the thought of a government-run news organization. OTOH, the BBC got it right for a long time. Too bad they are trying to compete with NPR now. I already have plenty of liberally-slanted sensational news organizations to listen to. I neither need nor want another. (And no Frank, I am not a liberal. I am a libertarian. *BIG* difference.) Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:09 AM PST US From: "TC Johnson" Subject: Yak-List: Drew Eginton please --> Yak-List message posted by: "TC Johnson" Drew Eginton .. . Please contact Tom Johnson, Cannon Aviation Insurance. Anybody have his contact information? ********************************** Thomas Johnson Cannon Aviation Insurance Ass't Vice President Tel: 800-851-2997 Fax: 480-951-1455 Cell: 602-628-2701 E: tjohnson@cannonaviation.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:28 AM PST US From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" Subject: Yak-List: Yak electrical system --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" I desperately need a good English drawing of the electrical system from the Yak, got some problems and all I've got are these schedules in beautiful Russian language :-( Who can help me out? Jerome Yakkes.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:21 AM PST US From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" Arent their any complete Yak smoke systems on the market, ready to install? I do know Termikas is selling them for 1000,- Euro's, any other available? Jerome yakkes.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:59 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Smoke system From: "Coffey, John" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" Check out www.smokingairplanes.com He currently sells a self contained system with 3.5gal capacity. The kit includes everything from the tank to the injectors. He's working on an 8gal system. A buddy has installed a couple of his small systems on a pair of Van's RVs. They are VERY well designed systems and they produce AMAZING amounts of smoke. Best smoke output I've ever seen from an IO-360. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Van der Schaar Subject: Yak-List: Smoke system --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" --> Arent their any complete Yak smoke systems on the market, ready to install? I do know Termikas is selling them for 1000,- Euro's, any other available? Jerome yakkes.com == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:30 PM PST US From: "Richard Basiliere" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Smoke system --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" Yes sir; Mark Jefferies at mark.j@yakuk.com I have one for my -55 on the way and he has them for the -52 also. 1500 euro I believe. Rick >>> jvds30@hotmail.com 8/12/2004 12:30:16 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" Arent their any complete Yak smoke systems on the market, ready to install? I do know Termikas is selling them for 1000,- Euro's, any other available? Jerome yakkes.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:02 PM PST US From: YakL1@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: paint schemes --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com Gang: At long last we are going to repaint our CJ-6, and looking for any advice on paint schemes. Does anybody out there have a Photoshop type program set up for the CJ? Please feel free to reply to me directly off list at _Jjzecherle@aol.com_ (mailto:Jjzecherle@aol.com) , or via this address. John ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:31 PM PST US From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: paint schemes --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" John, If you find one, please let me know as I am planning to paint the new CJ by spring. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YakL1@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: paint schemes --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com Gang: At long last we are going to repaint our CJ-6, and looking for any advice on paint schemes. Does anybody out there have a Photoshop type program set up for the CJ? Please feel free to reply to me directly off list at _Jjzecherle@aol.com_ (mailto:Jjzecherle@aol.com) , or via this address. John ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:53 PM PST US From: Bob Fitzpatrick Subject: Yak-List: NBC --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick AAAE ISSUE ALERT Transportation Security Services & Non Hub/General Aviation Committees www.airportnet.org/security AAAE Non Hub/General Aviation Committee AAAE Regulatory Membership From: Rebecca Morrison - Staff Vice President, Transportation Security Policy Department, AAAE Re: Attempted Security Breach at GA Facility The following is a description of an incident that occurred today at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are sharing this story with you as there are indications that it might be repeated throughout the country. We would like to thank Bob McDaniel, the Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for sharing the details of the incident outlined below. Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate our security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and asked about a charter flight. After discussion of price and directions to the business, they arrived an hour later. When the office agent asked how they were going to pay for the flight they produced cash. When asked for ID, they produced driver's licenses from two different states and they were driving a car licensed in a third state. Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them into the hangar to see the aircraft while the office person called the FBI and local police. The helicopter they were going to fly was blocked in by other aircraft so the mechanic was able to stall them by having to slowly shuffle the blocking planes. Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks and odd-shaped luggage out of their car. Soon the local police arrived and they were hauled off to jail in handcuffs. After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the two men were employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get a story of how easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist attack. The men had stayed in a local hotel and purchased box cutters, leather-man knives, and other potential weapons at the local Wal-Mart using a credit card. The box cutters had been hidden in the lining at the bottom of the back packs and the other weapons were hidden throughout their baggage. They had audiotaped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were going to use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to get information and directions to the location of the helicopter and then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack. I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a story that will never be seen since they were caught. A very "well-done" to my FBO and staff and the local FBI and police response forces. We have since learned that we were the first airport where this had been attempted and NBC planned to attempt similar penetration stories around the country. Please helm me spread the word to other airports. Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions or comments. ********************************** Rebecca K. Morrison Staff Vice President, Transportation Security Policy American Association of Airport Executives 601 Madison Street, Suite 400 Alexandria, VA 22314 703 797-2524 Fax: 703 820-1395 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:57 PM PST US From: Bob Fitzpatrick Subject: Re: Yak-List: NBC --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick I was calmly reading e-mail when this came in. Now I can't take enough lopressor to keep my blood pressure from red-lining. First it was Daley (our domestic terrorist) destroying Meigs, then CBS ambushed airparks,now NBC is joining in. Like Pogo said: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Fitzpatrick" Subject: Yak-List: NBC > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick > > > AAAE ISSUE ALERT > > Transportation Security Services & > > Non Hub/General Aviation Committees > > > www.airportnet.org/security > > > To: AAAE Transportation Security Services Committee > > AAAE Non Hub/General Aviation Committee > > AAAE Regulatory Membership > > > From: Rebecca Morrison - Staff Vice President, Transportation Security Policy Department, AAAE > > > Re: Attempted Security Breach at GA Facility > > > Date: August 11, 2004 > > The following is a description of an incident that occurred today at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are sharing this story with you as there are indications that it might be repeated throughout the country. We would like to thank Bob McDaniel, the Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for sharing the details of the incident outlined below. > > > Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate our security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and asked about a charter flight. After discussion of price and directions to the business, they arrived an hour later. When the office agent asked how they were going to pay for the flight they produced cash. When asked for ID, they produced driver's licenses from two different states and they were driving a car licensed in a third state. > > > Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them into the hangar to see the aircraft while the office person called the FBI and local police. The helicopter they were going to fly was blocked in by other aircraft so the mechanic was able to stall them by having to slowly shuffle the blocking planes. Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks and odd-shaped luggage out of their car. Soon the local police arrived and they were hauled off to jail in handcuffs. > > > After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the two men were employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get a story of how easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist attack. The men had stayed in a local hotel and purchased box cutters, leather-man knives, and other potential weapons at the local Wal-Mart using a credit card. The box cutters had been hidden in the lining at the bottom of the back packs and the other weapons were hidden throughout their baggage. They had audiotaped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were going to use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to get information and directions to the location of the helicopter and then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack. > > > I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a story that will never be seen since they were caught. A very "well-done" to my FBO and staff and the local FBI and police response forces. We have since learned that we were the first airport where this had been attempted and NBC planned to attempt similar penetration stories around the country. Please helm me spread the word to other airports. > > > Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions or comments. > > > ********************************** > > Rebecca K. Morrison > > Staff Vice President, Transportation Security Policy > > American Association of Airport Executives > > 601 Madison Street, Suite 400 > > Alexandria, VA 22314 > > 703 797-2524 > Fax: 703 820-1395 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:57:47 PM PST US From: "Jim and Vivian" Subject: Re: Yak-List: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Vivian" Subject: Re: Yak-List: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" > > Jerry > Call me I probably have one. > Jim Selby > 831 883-1266 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Painter" > To: > Subject: Yak-List: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" > > > > Folks, > > > > I'm looking for a solid state voltage regulator for a 1982 CJ-6A. Anyone > > out there have such an animal? Our friend in Omak no has none. > > > > Jerry Painter > > Wild Blue Aviation > > 425-258-4522/425-876-0865 > > Wild.Blue@verizon.net > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0cs5r/index.html > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:16 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Yak-List: NBC --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd On Aug 12, 2004, at 6:12 PM, Bob Fitzpatrick wrote: > Re: Attempted Security Breach at GA Facility > > > Date: August 11, 2004 > > The following is a description of an incident that occurred today at > the St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are sharing > this story with you as there are indications that it might be repeated > throughout the country. We would like to thank Bob McDaniel, the > Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for sharing the details of > the incident outlined below. This points out just how good security is at our GA airports. No metal detector is as sensitive as a suspicious airport bum. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Smoke system - Email found in subject From: Jay Land --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land Looks like these guys may have something soon for CJs and Yaks http://www.smokingairplanes.com/ Jay > From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:30:16 +0000 > To: > Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Smoke system - Email found in subject > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van der Schaar" > > Arent their any complete Yak smoke systems on the market, ready to install? > I do know Termikas is selling them for 1000,- Euro's, any other available? > > Jerome > yakkes.com > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:39 PM PST US From: "Terry" Subject: Re: Yak-List: NBC --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" Subject: Re: Yak-List: NBC > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd > > On Aug 12, 2004, at 6:12 PM, Bob Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > Re: Attempted Security Breach at GA Facility > > > > > > Date: August 11, 2004 > > > > The following is a description of an incident that occurred today at > > the St. Louis Downtown Airport, a large GA facility. We are sharing > > this story with you as there are indications that it might be repeated > > throughout the country. We would like to thank Bob McDaniel, the > > Director at the St. Louis Downtown Airport, for sharing the details of > > the incident outlined below. > > This points out just how good security is at our GA airports. No metal > detector is as sensitive as a suspicious airport bum. These airport "BUMS" are my Heros. More heads up people like this and our security and media problems would be less of a problem. Stay alert . Your airport next? Terry Lewis > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:51 PM PST US From: YakL1@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: paint schemes --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com Doug: The search is long... :) I'll let you know what I come up with. John