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1. 06:05 AM - All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?) (scott.huff@aivia.aero)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: Airshow Smoke (Scott Patterson)
3. 06:25 AM - Airshow Smoke (Frank Haertlein)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?) (Ernie)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: Airshow Smoke (Scott Patterson)
6. 07:52 AM - ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) * pm PST.......Check your listings for your time. (Mark Schrick)
7. 08:00 AM - Re: Airshow Smoke (Dee Grimm)
8. 09:59 AM - Craig Payne (ByronMFox@aol.com)
9. 10:47 AM - Thanks to Reede (Patrick C.Scofield)
10. 10:54 AM - CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems (Patrick C.Scofield)
11. 11:02 AM - Re: CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems (Doug Sapp)
12. 01:12 PM - Re: Airshow Smoke (Richard Basiliere)
13. 01:36 PM - Re: ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) ... (COOLADE@aol.com)
14. 01:59 PM - Re: ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) ... (Gus Fraser)
15. 03:21 PM - Re: CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
16. 04:06 PM - CJ for Sale (Kelley Monroe)
17. 07:07 PM - Gear to fold into the wing (Frank Haertlein)
18. 07:08 PM - Communication EarPlugs (PSalter@aol.com)
19. 07:10 PM - Hearing Protection (PSalter@aol.com)
20. 07:26 PM - Re: Communication EarPlugs (Gus Fraser)
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| Subject: | All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
I received my copy of the All Red Star 2004 DVD & Photo Compilation yesterday.
Felt like Christmas in August ... I almost hugged my not-so-friendly mail
carrier.
For those of us lurking on this list hoping to one day be a Yak/CJ owner, this
DVD is most definitely motivating. Great video of all the action and awesome
editing. The music choice was top notch as well. Congrats to Hartley
Postlethwaite and the folks at South Valley Mobile Television (Cynthia
Stagner) for producing an excellent product!
Future Yak/CJ Wingman,
Scott Huff
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| Subject: | Re: Airshow Smoke |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Patterson" <Scott.Patterson@peoplesbt.com>
on smoke systems..Les crowder put one in my 52 N81FS 8 years ago...holds 9 gals,
(uses 1 gal. per min.) my airshow routine ran 7-8 mins. I turned it on at the
start and left it on. it made great smoke out of both sides. works like a charm......Scott
Patterson
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 08/17/04 10:53PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
I built a smoke system for my 52 and it works like a charm. It has
enough oil capacity for about 3 minutes worth of smoke. I don't fly in
air shows much (I'm mostly acting as a static display) so I wonder what
is the typical need for how long we can produce smoke?
In other words, how long do you think a smoke system should put out
smoke?
While I'm at it, what other things make up the ideal smoke system for
your aircraft and your specific needs?
I'm thinking maybe three minutes of smoke isn't enough. Any suggestions
as to the ideas
Thanks in advance!
Frank (Hounding) Haertlein
YAK-52
N9110M
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Scott
9 gals of smoke weighs close 70 pounds. Where the heck did you mount the
tank so as not to affect weight & balance? I have mine mounted where the
radios used to be mounted. Did you do your routine solo?
Thanks
Frank
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Patterson
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airshow Smoke
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Patterson"
--> <Scott.Patterson@peoplesbt.com>
on smoke systems..Les crowder put one in my 52 N81FS 8 years ago...holds
9 gals, (uses 1 gal. per min.) my airshow routine ran 7-8 mins. I turned
it on at the start and left it on. it made great smoke out of both
sides. works like a charm......Scott Patterson
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 08/17/04 10:53PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
--> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
I built a smoke system for my 52 and it works like a charm. It has
enough oil capacity for about 3 minutes worth of smoke. I don't fly in
air shows much (I'm mostly acting as a static display) so I wonder what
is the typical need for how long we can produce smoke?
In other words, how long do you think a smoke system should put out
smoke?
While I'm at it, what other things make up the ideal smoke system for
your aircraft and your specific needs?
I'm thinking maybe three minutes of smoke isn't enough. Any suggestions
as to the ideas Thanks in advance! Frank (Hounding) Haertlein YAK-52
N9110M
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Speaking of videos. Can anyone give me the date of the All Red Star Event
which will air on Discovery Wings.
Ernie
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From: <scott.huff@aivia.aero>
Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
>
> I received my copy of the All Red Star 2004 DVD & Photo Compilation
yesterday.
> Felt like Christmas in August ... I almost hugged my not-so-friendly mail
> carrier.
>
> For those of us lurking on this list hoping to one day be a Yak/CJ owner,
this
> DVD is most definitely motivating. Great video of all the action and
awesome
> editing. The music choice was top notch as well. Congrats to Hartley
> Postlethwaite and the folks at South Valley Mobile Television (Cynthia
> Stagner) for producing an excellent product!
>
> Future Yak/CJ Wingman,
> Scott Huff
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airshow Smoke |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Patterson" <Scott.Patterson@peoplesbt.com>
mounted behind the rear seat where a luggage would go..it has a neet outside fill
door..solo yes...you are decreasing weight at a gal per min..it also has a
flopper stopper for inverted flight. my routine was straight foward..no tail slides
spins etc...with tank full it is more pitch sensitive...no problem however...YHS
Scott Patterson
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 08/18/04 08:25AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Scott
9 gals of smoke weighs close 70 pounds. Where the heck did you mount the
tank so as not to affect weight & balance? I have mine mounted where the
radios used to be mounted. Did you do your routine solo?
Thanks
Frank
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Patterson
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Airshow Smoke
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Patterson"
--> <Scott.Patterson@peoplesbt.com>
on smoke systems..Les crowder put one in my 52 N81FS 8 years ago...holds
9 gals, (uses 1 gal. per min.) my airshow routine ran 7-8 mins. I turned
it on at the start and left it on. it made great smoke out of both
sides. works like a charm......Scott Patterson
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 08/17/04 10:53PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
--> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
I built a smoke system for my 52 and it works like a charm. It has
enough oil capacity for about 3 minutes worth of smoke. I don't fly in
air shows much (I'm mostly acting as a static display) so I wonder what
is the typical need for how long we can produce smoke?
In other words, how long do you think a smoke system should put out
smoke?
While I'm at it, what other things make up the ideal smoke system for
your aircraft and your specific needs?
I'm thinking maybe three minutes of smoke isn't enough. Any suggestions
as to the ideas Thanks in advance! Frank (Hounding) Haertlein YAK-52
N9110M
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| Subject: | ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) |
* pm PST.......Check your listings for your time.
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
The History Channel showing of "Tactical to Practical" will be Tuesday August
31st at 8pm PST. Check your local listings for it. They have been playing
little snip-its of the ALL REDSTAR Event for the commercial leading up to
season three. Saw Hunter Ellis on Friday night in Las Vegas. He is now looking
to purchase a Yak 52 to fly in San Diego in the spring. It is the OPENING Show
for season THREE......
He had a great time and wants to get into the group once the show slows down.
He has a FIVE year contract. Great show.
What ever happened to the RPA store that was to be up four weeks ago? Anyone
know what is going on? Seems quite now on the website.........
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
YAK DRIVER, LLC
Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW
Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!!
REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email schrick@pacbell.net
Website www.YAKDRIVER.com
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Speaking of videos. Can anyone give me the date of the All Red Star Event
which will air on Discovery Wings.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <scott.huff@aivia.aero>
Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star 2004 DVD (Christmas in August?)
> --> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
>
> I received my copy of the All Red Star 2004 DVD & Photo Compilation
yesterday.
> Felt like Christmas in August ... I almost hugged my not-so-friendly mail
> carrier.
>
> For those of us lurking on this list hoping to one day be a Yak/CJ owner,
this
> DVD is most definitely motivating. Great video of all the action and
awesome
> editing. The music choice was top notch as well. Congrats to Hartley
> Postlethwaite and the folks at South Valley Mobile Television (Cynthia
> Stagner) for producing an excellent product!
>
> Future Yak/CJ Wingman,
> Scott Huff
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airshow Smoke |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee Grimm" <deegrimm@cox.net>
Jim Goolsby,
I don't have your e-mail. Please contact me at deegrimm@cox.net, cell 602
312 7307, home 602 996 1296 about the air inlet. As you know, I spend most
days at the airport so the cell or e-mail are best.
Dee
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
Craig, could you contact me off list? Thanks, Blitz
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Patrick C.Scofield" <Patrick@Designworx.com>
Gents,
I just wanted to thank Reede Genzlinger for loaning me a set of M-14
engine mounts while I tracked down another set, beside gossip and
carousing this group is even helpful ! ;-)
Patrick Scofield
CJ-6 4184W
'Strong l ike ox, Smart like tractor'
Old Russian Proverb
2550 N Thunderbird Circle
Suite #302
Mesa, AZ 85215
USA
Bus. 480-968-4125
Fax. 480-968-4126
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| Subject: | CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Patrick C.Scofield" <Patrick@Designworx.com>
Gents,
We had to bottom the nose strut on my CJ-6 to lift the engine for mount
replacement. Ever since it hasn't been right, leaking and not holding
a charge. I've asked gentleman Doug whether he had new chevron seals
and he didn't. I've tried some metric crossover and they dont seal
well. We tried putting the old ones back on and the whole thing just
ain't workin'.
Has anyone dealt with this out there? If I have new chevrons
manufactured would anybody wan't some? I'm going to try a shim on the
gland nut and see if that helps, after that I am clue-less.
Patrick Scofield
CJ-6 4184W
'Strong l ike ox, Smart like tractor'
Old Russian Proverb
2550 N Thunderbird Circle
Suite #302
Mesa, AZ 85215
USA
Bus. 480-968-4125
Fax. 480-968-4126
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| Subject: | CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Pat,
I have added the chevron seals to my next order, but it will not be here for
about 75 days.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Patrick
C.Scofield
Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Patrick C.Scofield"
<Patrick@Designworx.com>
Gents,
We had to bottom the nose strut on my CJ-6 to lift the engine for mount
replacement. Ever since it hasn't been right, leaking and not holding
a charge. I've asked gentleman Doug whether he had new chevron seals
and he didn't. I've tried some metric crossover and they dont seal
well. We tried putting the old ones back on and the whole thing just
ain't workin'.
Has anyone dealt with this out there? If I have new chevrons
manufactured would anybody wan't some? I'm going to try a shim on the
gland nut and see if that helps, after that I am clue-less.
Patrick Scofield
CJ-6 4184W
'Strong l ike ox, Smart like tractor'
Old Russian Proverb
2550 N Thunderbird Circle
Suite #302
Mesa, AZ 85215
USA
Bus. 480-968-4125
Fax. 480-968-4126
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| Subject: | Re: Airshow Smoke |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Frank et al;
Thanks. I need about 12 minutes for my airshow routine and of course
the "4 minute free" in competition needs ---4 minutes. The SU-29 has
8.4 gallon smoke tank with a 1.5 liter per minute flow rate.
Regards, Rick B
>>> yak52driver@earthlink.net 8/17/2004 9:53:07 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakkers;
I built a smoke system for my 52 and it works like a charm. It has
enough oil capacity for about 3 minutes worth of smoke. I don't fly in
air shows much (I'm mostly acting as a static display) so I wonder
what
is the typical need for how long we can produce smoke?
In other words, how long do you think a smoke system should put out
smoke?
While I'm at it, what other things make up the ideal smoke system for
your aircraft and your specific needs?
I'm thinking maybe three minutes of smoke isn't enough. Any
suggestions
as to the ideas
Thanks in advance!
Frank (Hounding) Haertlein
YAK-52
N9110M
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| Subject: | Re: ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) |
...
--> Yak-List message posted by: COOLADE@aol.com
Does anyone have info on a company in Lituiania who converts yak 52 wing
gear to fold into the wing clean???
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| Subject: | ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August 31st (Tuesday) |
...
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I think you are talking about the Yak 52 TD. Mark Jeffries is your man at
www.yakuk.co.uk he posted a bunch of pictures and info here a short while
ago and they should be in the achieve.
Gus Fraser
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of COOLADE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August
31st (Tuesday) ...
--> Yak-List message posted by: COOLADE@aol.com
Does anyone have info on a company in Lituiania who converts yak 52 wing
gear to fold into the wing clean???
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| Subject: | CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
There is a product that is available that adds to the hyd. fluid in the
strut itself called Granville Strut Sealer. One kit sells for about $26
from Aircraft Spruce and will do one strut. They make bigger kits for
multiple struts, etc. This stuff basically will be absorbed by the seal and
will cause it to swell. If your chevron seal is torn and just basically
ruined, this kit is not likely to work. On the other hand, if your seal is
just hard and is by-passing, then this kit WILL work. I have tried it
myself on a number of aircraft and it worked very very well. I keep a
complete kit on hand at all times. Below is a link to the product. For
$26, I'd take the chance... what can you lose? It may get you going for the
next 75 days until Doug can get you a proper rebuild kit.
Good luck,
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/lg/strut.html
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From: Doug Sapp [mailto:rvfltd@televar.com]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Pat,
I have added the chevron seals to my next order, but it will not be here for
about 75 days.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Patrick
C.Scofield
Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Nose Strut Problems
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Patrick C.Scofield"
<Patrick@Designworx.com>
Gents,
We had to bottom the nose strut on my CJ-6 to lift the engine for mount
replacement. Ever since it hasn't been right, leaking and not holding
a charge. I've asked gentleman Doug whether he had new chevron seals
and he didn't. I've tried some metric crossover and they dont seal
well. We tried putting the old ones back on and the whole thing just
ain't workin'.
Has anyone dealt with this out there? If I have new chevrons
manufactured would anybody wan't some? I'm going to try a shim on the
gland nut and see if that helps, after that I am clue-less.
Patrick Scofield
CJ-6 4184W
'Strong l ike ox, Smart like tractor'
Old Russian Proverb
2550 N Thunderbird Circle
Suite #302
Mesa, AZ 85215
USA
Bus. 480-968-4125
Fax. 480-968-4126
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
I have put my CJ up for sale on Barnstormers.com. I am looking for a CJ project
in trade.
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| Subject: | Gear to fold into the wing |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Coolaid;
Check out the YAK links page at http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
Go to the link for TERMIKAS. That may help get you started. You might
also try the RUSSIANAEROS link. There are plenty of other links to many
other, helpful YAK sites on this links page.
Good Luck.
Frank (Houndog) Haertlein
YAK-52
N9110M
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
COOLADE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: ALL REDSTAR Fly-in on History Channel , August
31st (Tuesday) ...
--> Yak-List message posted by: COOLADE@aol.com
Does anyone have info on a company in Lituiania who converts yak 52 wing
gear to fold into the wing clean???
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| Subject: | Communication EarPlugs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: PSalter@aol.com
Fellow Yak Pilots,
Recently I decided to buy the best ANR headset I could find. Currently I own
a Bose X and a couple of DC's with the Headsets Inc. mod. I have found more
and more I cannot understand incoming communications. I wanted to try the
new Telex 50d but I do not know anyone that has one and I didn't want to pay
just to find out my existing headsets are about the same or better. Also I have
learned, ANR headsets do not do a great job of killing the higher
frequencies in the airplane but do a great job killing lower frequencies.
In searching the web I came across a company that produces an earplug that
has a foam tip inserted in the ear coupled with a transducer about the size of
a peanut. From the transducer housing, a wire runs from each earplug down
thru the notch in the lower part of your ear to a small jack that plugs into
an installed female plug in a modified headset. In my case my passive DC's.
The name of the earplugs is CEP which stands for Communication Ear Plug. They
were developed for the Army helo guys and are in current use with the military.
Last weekend, I flew 9 hours in two days and cannot imagine going back to my
ANR's as stand alone headsets. I will add a plug to be able to wear my
earplugs with my ANR headset help kill lower frequencies. I will test and update
the list on my findings.
On the passive headset with the CEP, noise reduction is around 45db. Yes I
said 45db, the CEP alone reduces cockpit noise by 29.5db if installed in the
ear properly. I could tell in an instant when I didn't have a plug installed
correctly and would reinsert. While enroute, under our hot Texas sun, I
decided to remove my headset to cool down. No problem, I still had the 29.5db
reduction keeping the damaging Yak sounds at bay. Intelligibility? Excellent!
I can now hear my radio communications with no problems and with my radio
volume turned to half the volume I used in the past.
Drawbacks? Sure, installing the plugs is another step along with having the
small cables to the transducers draping under your neck between the two
earplugs. Also, you have to remember to plug in the CEP to the modified headset.
I was amazed that when I opened my mouth, I could hear more noise due to the
CEP killing sound to my ears. I have never in the past had that problem.
Wearing the CEP is not as comfortable as not having anything in your ears
although I didn't find them uncomfortable, just different. The benefits to me
far
outweigh the drawbacks in this case. I will continue to use the CEP in my Yak
and other planes.
Best of all, the total cost was under $150.00.
Bottom line, I believe the CEP is well worth the money to protect my hearing
from further damage and I love being able to hear transmissions with great
intelligibility.
If you have questions contact me off list at _psalter@aol.com_
(mailto:psalter@aol.com) and no, I am not a dealer but a very happy user.
Phil Salter
N2504U Yak 52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: PSalter@aol.com
Fellow Yak Pilots,
Recently I decided to buy the best ANR headset I could find. Currently I own
a Bose X and a couple of DC's with the Headsets Inc. mod. I have found more
and more I cannot understand incoming communications. I wanted to try the
new Telex 50d but I do not know anyone that has one and I didn't want to pay
just to find out my existing headsets are about the same or better. Also I have
learned, ANR headsets do not do a great job of killing the higher
frequencies in the airplane but do a great job killing lower frequencies.
In searching the web I came across a company that produces an earplug that
has a foam tip inserted in the ear coupled with a transducer about the size of
a peanut. From the transducer housing, a wire runs from each earplug down
thru the notch in the lower part of your ear to a small jack that plugs into
an installed female plug in a modified headset. In my case my passive DC's.
The name of the earplugs is CEP which stands for Communication Ear Plug. They
were developed for the Army helo guys and are in current use with the military.
Last weekend, I flew 9 hours in two days and cannot imagine going back to my
ANR's as stand alone headsets. I will add a plug to be able to wear my
earplugs with my ANR headset help kill lower frequencies. I will test and update
the list on my findings.
On the passive headset with the CEP, noise reduction is around 45db. Yes I
said 45db, the CEP alone reduces cockpit noise by 29.5db if installed in the
ear properly. I could tell in an instant when I didn't have a plug installed
correctly and would reinsert. While enroute, under our hot Texas sun, I
decided to remove my headset to cool down. No problem, I still had the 29.5db
reduction keeping the damaging Yak sounds at bay. Intelligibility? Excellent!
I can now hear my radio communications with no problems and with my radio
volume turned to half the volume I used in the past.
Drawbacks? Sure, installing the plugs is another step along with having the
small cables to the transducers draping under your neck between the two
earplugs. Also, you have to remember to plug in the CEP to the modified headset.
I was amazed that when I opened my mouth, I could hear more noise due to the
CEP killing sound to my ears. I have never in the past had that problem.
Wearing the CEP is not as comfortable as not having anything in your ears
although I didn't find them uncomfortable, just different. The benefits to me
far
outweigh the drawbacks in this case. I will continue to use the CEP in my Yak
and other planes.
Best of all, the total cost was under $150.00.
Bottom line, I believe the CEP is well worth the money to protect my hearing
from further damage and I love being able to hear transmissions with great
intelligibility.
If you have questions contact me off list at _psalter@aol.com_
(mailto:psalter@aol.com) and no, I am not a dealer but a very happy user.
Phil Salter
N2504U Yak 52
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I bought a set of these
http://www.clarityaloft.com/index.htm
When at Oshkosh. This company is the one that has the contract for US
Airforce/Army/Navy helicopter headsets. When at the booth I did not believe
that they would work at all and told the sales woman that I would buy a set
but I would be back to return them in a couple of hours. Well I still have
the and I am just beginning to get past the feeling that something is
missing when I fly :)
No more sweaty ears for me. When I tested them I had to take one out to
truly appreciate how effective they are, awesome kit.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of PSalter@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Communication EarPlugs
--> Yak-List message posted by: PSalter@aol.com
Fellow Yak Pilots,
Recently I decided to buy the best ANR headset I could find. Currently I
own
a Bose X and a couple of DC's with the Headsets Inc. mod. I have found
more
and more I cannot understand incoming communications. I wanted to try the
new Telex 50d but I do not know anyone that has one and I didn't want to pay
just to find out my existing headsets are about the same or better. Also I
have
learned, ANR headsets do not do a great job of killing the higher
frequencies in the airplane but do a great job killing lower frequencies.
In searching the web I came across a company that produces an earplug that
has a foam tip inserted in the ear coupled with a transducer about the size
of
a peanut. From the transducer housing, a wire runs from each earplug down
thru the notch in the lower part of your ear to a small jack that plugs
into
an installed female plug in a modified headset. In my case my passive DC's.
The name of the earplugs is CEP which stands for Communication Ear Plug.
They
were developed for the Army helo guys and are in current use with the
military.
Last weekend, I flew 9 hours in two days and cannot imagine going back to
my
ANR's as stand alone headsets. I will add a plug to be able to wear my
earplugs with my ANR headset help kill lower frequencies. I will test and
update
the list on my findings.
On the passive headset with the CEP, noise reduction is around 45db. Yes I
said 45db, the CEP alone reduces cockpit noise by 29.5db if installed in
the
ear properly. I could tell in an instant when I didn't have a plug
installed
correctly and would reinsert. While enroute, under our hot Texas sun, I
decided to remove my headset to cool down. No problem, I still had the
29.5db
reduction keeping the damaging Yak sounds at bay. Intelligibility?
Excellent!
I can now hear my radio communications with no problems and with my radio
volume turned to half the volume I used in the past.
Drawbacks? Sure, installing the plugs is another step along with having
the
small cables to the transducers draping under your neck between the two
earplugs. Also, you have to remember to plug in the CEP to the modified
headset.
I was amazed that when I opened my mouth, I could hear more noise due to
the
CEP killing sound to my ears. I have never in the past had that problem.
Wearing the CEP is not as comfortable as not having anything in your ears
although I didn't find them uncomfortable, just different. The benefits to
me far
outweigh the drawbacks in this case. I will continue to use the CEP in my
Yak
and other planes.
Best of all, the total cost was under $150.00.
Bottom line, I believe the CEP is well worth the money to protect my
hearing
from further damage and I love being able to hear transmissions with great
intelligibility.
If you have questions contact me off list at _psalter@aol.com_
(mailto:psalter@aol.com) and no, I am not a dealer but a very happy user.
Phil Salter
N2504U Yak 52
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