Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/23/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Howgozit (Ernie Martinez)
     2. 06:33 AM - Oil Lines on M14P (Jeff Linebaugh)
     3. 07:13 AM - Re: Oil Lines on M14P (Sam Sax)
     4. 08:07 AM - Frank H's postings (Roger Baker)
     5. 09:23 AM - FW: I3 (Gerald Sweidan)
     6. 09:38 AM - Re: Oil Lines on M14P (Jim and Vivian)
     7. 09:58 AM - Re: Oil Lines on M14P (Dave Laird)
     8. 10:56 AM - Political burbling and stuttering (Janet Davidson)
     9. 11:16 AM - New Warbird Magazine doing Yak / CJ article (TC Johnson)
    10. 01:59 PM - Re: Yak-52 Props (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
    11. 02:08 PM - Re: Yak-52 Props (Rick Basiliere)
    12. 06:02 PM - Yak-52 Props (Frank Haertlein)
    13. 06:58 PM - YAK 52 FOR SALE  (CHAD FELDPOUCH)
    14. 07:00 PM - Frank H's Posts... (Frank Haertlein)
    15. 07:32 PM - Skyfest 2004 Reminder (Jeff Linebaugh)
    16. 07:33 PM - Re: Frank H's Posts... (JGibson912@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:26:15 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Howgozit
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Just got back from Sanibel Island this weekend. Our properties came out unscathed, but the island looked like a bomb went off. I've never seen so many downed tree sin my life. One interesting note, at the marina their was a Cessna 180 on floats. It was out of the water on the dry, the marina put their fork lift over the floats, to hold the plane down. I was completely undamaged. Ernie -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Di Marco Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Howgozit --> Yak-List message posted by: Michael Di Marco <cj6a_chinablue@yahoo.com> Can't say the same for Kissimmee (ISM). The eye passed directly over the airport as a CAT 2. Luckily the southern eye wall fell apart just after passage. Ranger Jet Center was flattened. Kissimmee Aviation had one Shorts on its back and two others moved 100 feet. Hangar doors on the south side of the new Ts by Sheltair were removed from their tracks and two went 100 yards. None of the airplanes in the Sheltair hangars were damaged. My CJ faced north and another newly arrived CJ faced south. His doors have already been re-hung. My neighborhood experienced the NE eye wall with multiple tonadoes. My home had light damage to the pool enclosure, roof, sofits, and a gutter. Two trees had to be removed and one righted (great if it lives). Power was out only five days. It took two days to clean all the crud out of the pool. Many of the oak leaves were shreded as the passed (wind blasted) through the screens. Minor water seepage occured under two windows and the livinng room sliders (looking for Oriental Rug cleaner). The roof ridge caps had all the comp material ablated away, but a fourty year roof really can take 100+ mph winds. Lost only four corners. Some of my neighbors were not so fortunate. One had every oak lay down. Others had their pool enclosures twisted into pretzels. A 100 foot island of vegetation in the pond shifted 500 feet. I saw one Oak in St Cloud with a five foot base split in half by lightening. But we were blessed and the folks southwest still need prayers. God willing it will be another forty years before the next one. Mike China Blue cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Troops, and all. All's well, thank you. Charley passed south of us (30nm). We lost power for just 3 minutes, little rain but lots of lighting. The leaf blower cleaned up the mess easily. Jim Goolsby == == == ==


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    Time: 06:33:45 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Oil Lines on M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> I have now flown 30 hours behind the M14P conversion on my CJ, and am one happy camper...except one thing....I continue to get "spew-age" from my nose case vent tube. Not a lot, just enough to have to clean up all the time... This has been a topic before, but just wondering if someone has a good solution to this... The stock CJ system has the nose case tube open to the atmosphere, as mine is currently. The -52 arrangement is tied into the whole inverted system... Craig, didn't you have a foam filter of some sort that you found works? A line overboard my help some- or is it just going to move the mess to my belly? Evidently "t"-ing the nose case vent line into the main case vent line doesn't work so well, as the standard main case vent receives pressure from ram air. This has caused nose case seal problems? Thanks for any insights! Jeff Linebaugh N621CJ Memphis, TN jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:13:34 AM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Oil Lines on M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Hi Jeff, I am no M-14 expert but it seems odd to have oil come out of the nose case vent on a regular basis. It may be normal to see such seepage if you put her on her back for a few seconds, but should not do so on a regular flight. I have been putting 'a sock on it' :), meaning a foam sleeve/filter over the vent pipe - this is not to stop the oil from getting out but more to stop South Florida critters from getting in while parked. BTW, this sleeve is nothing more than a Radio Shack microphone sock (medium size). I not sure "Teeing" the main case to the nose case is a good idea. I wish I could shed more light on the issue... Sam Sax -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Linebaugh Subject: Yak-List: Oil Lines on M14P --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> I have now flown 30 hours behind the M14P conversion on my CJ, and am one happy camper...except one thing....I continue to get "spew-age" from my nose case vent tube. Not a lot, just enough to have to clean up all the time... This has been a topic before, but just wondering if someone has a good solution to this... The stock CJ system has the nose case tube open to the atmosphere, as mine is currently. The -52 arrangement is tied into the whole inverted system... Craig, didn't you have a foam filter of some sort that you found works? A line overboard my help some- or is it just going to move the mess to my belly? Evidently "t"-ing the nose case vent line into the main case vent line doesn't work so well, as the standard main case vent receives pressure from ram air. This has caused nose case seal problems? Thanks for any insights! Jeff Linebaugh N621CJ Memphis, TN jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net


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    Time: 08:07:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Frank H's postings
    From: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker <f4ffm2@adelphia.net> Frank, I don't know you...and I don't want to know you. But please keep your skewed, spin doctored, naive political stuff off of the Yak site. This is about airpanes. Frank, I know it's of no importance to you, but if this site continues to be a forum for a few peoples rabid political views, I will cancel my subscription (as I know some already have). In your mind, this would probably be a victory; but in my mind, it would be another example of a bully driving those with some capacity for critical thinking off to more pleasant endeavors. Roger Baker


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    Time: 09:23:00 AM PST US
    From: "Gerald Sweidan" <gerald.sweidan@sweidan.co.za>
    Subject: FW: I3
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gerald Sweidan" <gerald.sweidan@sweidan.co.za> -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Sweidan [mailto:gerald.sweidan@sweidan.co.za] Subject: I3 Please could Gus Fraser contact me off the list re the I3 - much appreciated. Best Wishes Gerald Sweidan ZU-PHA Disclaimer: The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Sweidan Trust is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt.


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    Time: 09:38:41 AM PST US
    From: "Jim and Vivian" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Lines on M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" <jimscjs@mbay.net> Jeff On the Oil Vent problem, You may want to check the Case pressure, you may have a blower seal going bad, just a thought, but yes it is not normal. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oil Lines on M14P > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> > > Hi Jeff, > > I am no M-14 expert but it seems odd to have oil come out of the nose case > vent on a regular basis. It may be normal to see such seepage if you put > her on her back for a few seconds, but should not do so on a regular flight. > I have been putting 'a sock on it' :), meaning a foam sleeve/filter over the > vent pipe - this is not to stop the oil from getting out but more to stop > South Florida critters from getting in while parked. BTW, this sleeve is > nothing more than a Radio Shack microphone sock (medium size). I not sure > "Teeing" the main case to the nose case is a good idea. > > I wish I could shed more light on the issue... > > Sam Sax > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Linebaugh > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Oil Lines on M14P > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> > > I have now flown 30 hours behind the M14P conversion on my CJ, and am one > happy camper...except one thing....I continue to get "spew-age" from my nose > case vent tube. Not a lot, just enough to have to clean up all the time... > > This has been a topic before, but just wondering if someone has a good > solution to this... The stock CJ system has the nose case tube open to the > atmosphere, as mine is currently. The -52 arrangement is tied into the > whole inverted system... > > Craig, didn't you have a foam filter of some sort that you found works? > > A line overboard my help some- or is it just going to move the mess to my > belly? > > Evidently "t"-ing the nose case vent line into the main case vent line > doesn't work so well, as the standard main case vent receives pressure from > ram air. This has caused nose case seal problems? > > Thanks for any insights! > > Jeff Linebaugh > N621CJ > Memphis, TN > > > jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net > >


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    Time: 09:58:37 AM PST US
    From: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Lines on M14P
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> Jeff, I don't know if it helps...but on my CJ with the stock 285hp housai I put a K&N filter on my nose case breather per Rich Desmond's post in April, 2004, and it works great! If you are "rolling your own", be careful NOT to do what I originally did... I took a new sponge thingy for washing cars, cut it and mounted it on the breather... I thought enough air blew through it, but in the end it pressurized the nose case a little and blew oil out the back case vent!!! VERY MESSY! :) Since I installed the K&N things have been MUCH cleaner! Here is Rich's post: > The crankcase breather tube is 1-1/4" diameter with 1-3/8" at the > bead. K&N > filters makes a crankcase vent filter (3" dia. by 2-1/2" tall) that > slips > right on and is retained by a hose clamp. You should be able to find > one at your > > local automotive speed shop or order from Jeg's www.jegs.com (part # > 599-62-1440 @ $16.99). > > Rich Desmond > > I don't know if that same one will fit/work on the M14P.... good luck, Dave Laird N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty" Dallas


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    Time: 10:56:55 AM PST US
    From: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Political burbling and stuttering
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com> I, and I'm sure some others, read the yak list to keep up to date with info about the fun aircraft we fly, not to read party activists plugging their political beliefs. If I wanted to read that, I'd go to a political website. I hope this is not going to increase as we get closer to elections? I want to learn more about planes, not politicians........ Janet Ph: 920 232 9238 email: gbvfx@hotmail.com Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo


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    Time: 11:16:54 AM PST US
    From: "TC Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: New Warbird Magazine doing Yak / CJ article
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "TC Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> A new warbird magazine is being born: Warbird Digest. http://www.warbirddigest.com Next issue will have a Yak / CJ article in it. The Editor is a friend (T6 & Be18 owner) doing this for the glory of warbirds. He is also a big fan of the Yak/CJs and wants us to be a big part of the magazine. If you've got nothing else to do with $30 bucks, go to the website and subscribe like I just did. It's a quarterly magazine written by warbird people for warbird people. Tom Johnson


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    Time: 01:59:26 PM PST US
    From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
    Subject: Yak-52 Props
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Good point. Now might be a good time to point out that Whirlwind is offering a total rebuild service for old blades. They have a pretty good deal too. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode [mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com] Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Props --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-52 Props Noting Mark Bitterlich's offer of a 2-blade prop hub, I am interested to know where he might be able to find "new blades." I can say that we have fourteen hubs, but no blades for them, and I am sure this will become an increasing problem, since the hubs are durable, but blades hit the ground; de-laminate etc! Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 02:08:42 PM PST US
    From: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Yak-52 Props
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net> I sent mine to Whirlwind. It had a chinker out of the leading edge, about the size of a silver dollar if I remember correctly. They can't "fix" one, just redo already basically good blades. So, someone out there is sitting on a hub and single blade of mine...somewhere. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-52 Props --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Good point. Now might be a good time to point out that Whirlwind is offering a total rebuild service for old blades. They have a pretty good deal too. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode [mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com] Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Props --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-52 Props Noting Mark Bitterlich's offer of a 2-blade prop hub, I am interested to know where he might be able to find "new blades." I can say that we have fourteen hubs, but no blades for them, and I am sure this will become an increasing problem, since the hubs are durable, but blades hit the ground; de-laminate etc! Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com


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    Time: 06:02:13 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Yak-52 Props
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Mark; I've seen firsthand some of the rebuilds that Whirlwind does on the Vperiod prop. They have to be THE best, rebuilt prop I've seen on the YAK. When my prop needs a rebuild that's where I'm sending mine. While were on the subject, I've often thought of making my own props out of Kevlar fiber. Kevlar has lighter weight and higher tensile strength than even carbon fiber. Imagine the abrasion resistance possible using Kevlar. I have a friend who has a prop replicating machine. Put a blank in one side and the original in the other, turn the machine on and out comes a replica blade. Considering I may be working with Kevlar I may have to use a mold though. Any thoughts? Frank (Houndog) Haertlein YAK-52 N9110M "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." "Tench Cox in Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution" -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich GS11 Mark G Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-52 Props --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G --> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Good point. Now might be a good time to point out that Whirlwind is offering a total rebuild service for old blades. They have a pretty good deal too. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goode [mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com] Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Props --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-52 Props Noting Mark Bitterlich's offer of a 2-blade prop hub, I am interested to know where he might be able to find "new blades." I can say that we have fourteen hubs, but no blades for them, and I am sure this will become an increasing problem, since the hubs are durable, but blades hit the ground; de-laminate etc! Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 06:58:36 PM PST US
    From: CHAD FELDPOUCH <1pouch@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: YAK 52 FOR SALE
    --> Yak-List message posted by: CHAD FELDPOUCH <1pouch@sbcglobal.net> THANKS, CHAD.


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    Time: 07:00:24 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Frank H's Posts...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Roger; I posted about engine stuttering. But my additions at the end of the post have offended your sensibilities. Upon review of my actions, I have come to agree that this is over the line. I will heretoforthwith offer my apologies and cease and desist this practice. God knows I love this list....... so I will, by necessity, change my ways lest I incur the full wrath of the list. Instead, as part of my characteristic signature, I will provide a link to provocative subjects of possible interest to list participants. Frank (Houndog) Haertlein YAK-52 N9110M Naval Officer says World War III began in November 1979. http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/freedomtext.html


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    Time: 07:32:45 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Thomas.E.Bennett@us.army.mil, Bill.Mills@avnet.com, bwalker11@charter.net, kilousmc@aol.com, Lynch@net.jets.com, cpayne@joimail.com, David.Petri@northcom.mil, adsavar@gte.net, aapilot@adelphia.net, ggm2@chrysler.com, Gordie.Seuell@tbe.com, HOBWOLF@aol.com, jrespo66@earthlink.net, jland@popeandland.com, JCook89714@aol.com, cjpilot710@aol.com, N4829T@aol.com, Yak52Driver@aol.com, JandEFinley@comcast.net, avcraft@citlink.net, beach@digitalexp.com, MFilucci@aol.com, Hess737@aol.com, RLang27641@aol.com, cd001633@mindspring.com, aviatr@aol.com, Gordie.Seuell@tbe.com, scgsmg@direcway.com, sdalton@goeaston.net, STEVE.HANSHEW@airborne.com, tcalloway@datatechnique.com, thomas.bennett@peoavn.redstone.army.mil, yak-list@matronics.com
    Subject: Skyfest 2004 Reminder
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> October SkyFest 2004 Update: Fellow Yakers, We are quickly approaching Skyfest 2004. I want to remind everyone of the event and provide some details. Dates: September 30, Oct 1-3, 2004 Where: Jackson, TN (MKL) about 60 NM northeast of Memphis. Here again is the deal: SkyFest 2004 will provide rooms and discounted fuel for us to have an RPA Mass Formation clinic, if we provide mass formation flyovers for their SkyFest 2004 airshow (Saturday and Sunday.) Skyfest will comp us up to 20 rooms for the clinic and the show. Practice fuel will be discounted significantly ($0.50 per gallon) and fuel for the show will be compd, as will smoke oil. They will provide transportation. This show will be conducted in waivered airspace. This means we need FAST current and qualified pilots for the show. To take advantage of the rooms, and fuel deal, you need to be at least a commercial rated pilot. Free rooms, cheap formation flying, airshow exposure, and hanging with your buds this should prove to be an all around great time! AND our own Team Red Yak Formation Airshow Team will be performing too- they do a great job...you wont want to miss them! We will plan to practice Thursday and Friday, then fly in the show Saturday and Sunday. Note that there will be no FAST basic formation training at this event. There may be limited availability for FAST checkrides on Thursday. Our primary goal is to provide a professional quality airshow performance, so that we might set a precedent for other shows to NEED us! We have 15 pilots already interested in attending, so if youd like to join us, please let me know ASAP! If youve already shown interest, would you please drop me a line again to confirm? Thankslooking forward to flying with you all! For more info, contact me @ jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net 901 850-8776 901 606-6735 or see the website: http://www.skyfest.us Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:33:34 PM PST US
    From: JGibson912@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Frank H's Posts...
    --> Yak-List message posted by: JGibson912@aol.com Please let us know the findings with your engine problems have you thought of the prop or a stuck valve?




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