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Wed 09/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 05:51 AM - Re: Yak 55M - low prop tip ground clearance (AirshowPilot1@aol.com)
     2. 08:51 AM - Yak-55 Gear (Richard Goode)
     3. 10:17 AM - Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Brian Lloyd)
     4. 11:23 AM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Ernie)
     5. 12:35 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Mills, Bill)
     6. 12:46 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Richard Basiliere)
     7. 12:56 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Brian Lloyd)
     8. 12:57 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Ernie)
     9. 01:38 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Brian Lloyd)
    10. 02:11 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Ernie)
    11. 02:27 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Ernie)
    12. 02:42 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Brian Lloyd)
    13. 02:45 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Brian Lloyd)
    14. 03:04 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
    15. 03:53 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (Ernie)
    16. 04:00 PM - Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL (A. Dennis Savarese)
    17. 06:28 PM - To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Frank Haertlein)
    18. 08:17 PM - Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Brian Lloyd)
    19. 09:44 PM - canopies cj6s or Yak 52's (Mark Schrick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:51:15 AM PST US
    From: AirshowPilot1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Yak 55M - low prop tip ground clearance
    --> Yak-List message posted by: AirshowPilot1@aol.com Build a set of extensions and bolt standard 6.0x6 axles on. Replace the Russian wheels with Cleveland wheels and brakes (the brake line will work with an AN-4 fitting). I did this conversion 8 years ago and run a custom MTV-3 with 265cm blades - no problems. W. Addison Linscott Paramount Aerobatics


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    Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Yak-55 Gear
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-55 Gear "Spreading" of 55 gear is common, particularly if landed a bit hard. We have found the only long-term solution is to remove the undercarriage, and take it to an engineering firm with a big hydraulic press, and re-set the gear. The titanium is springy and this process doesn't in any way seem to weaken it, and effectively brings it back to new. In terms of 3-blade propellers, they will always give a far better performance than the Russian 2-blade. However, even with the correct gear, the 260cm MT prop is definitely too long. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 10:17:46 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> We lucked out. Frances was far enough north that all we got on St. Thomas was a little rain and some 30 kt wind gusts (at least that is what my wind instruments on the boat registered). Now Frances is on the way through the Turks & Caicos and Bahamas to Florida. Are you guys starting to get ready? The current track has it hitting the Ft. Pierce/Vero Beach area at 8AM on Saturday. Daytona Beach will be on the bad side. Pappy, this means you are pretty darned close to the projected track. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 11:23:55 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Current projected track brings it right over my head! But it doesnt matter where it makes landfall, this monster is bigger than the state of Florida. Will just have to hang on and hope for the best. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > We lucked out. Frances was far enough north that all we got on St. > Thomas was a little rain and some 30 kt wind gusts (at least that is > what my wind instruments on the boat registered). > > Now Frances is on the way through the Turks & Caicos and Bahamas to > Florida. Are you guys starting to get ready? The current track has it > hitting the Ft. Pierce/Vero Beach area at 8AM on Saturday. Daytona > Beach will be on the bad side. Pappy, this means you are pretty darned > close to the projected track. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 12:35:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    From: "Mills, Bill" <Bill.Mills@avnet.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mills, Bill" <Bill.Mills@Avnet.com> Swamp Dragons, I'm probably going to head out with the bird again, probably Friday. If anyone else wants to join on my wing, let me know. Leaving Flagler Beach and heading west. Good luck to all Bill Mills -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> We lucked out. Frances was far enough north that all we got on St. Thomas was a little rain and some 30 kt wind gusts (at least that is what my wind instruments on the boat registered). Now Frances is on the way through the Turks & Caicos and Bahamas to Florida. Are you guys starting to get ready? The current track has it hitting the Ft. Pierce/Vero Beach area at 8AM on Saturday. Daytona Beach will be on the bad side. Pappy, this means you are pretty darned close to the projected track. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 12:46:24 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> I have hangar space and a bunk if you guys get this far west...good luck to all on the right coast Rick in Colorado >>> Bill.Mills@avnet.com 9/1/2004 1:33:16 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mills, Bill" <Bill.Mills@Avnet.com> Swamp Dragons, I'm probably going to head out with the bird again, probably Friday. If anyone else wants to join on my wing, let me know. Leaving Flagler Beach and heading west. Good luck to all Bill Mills -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Subject: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> We lucked out. Frances was far enough north that all we got on St. Thomas was a little rain and some 30 kt wind gusts (at least that is what my wind instruments on the boat registered). Now Frances is on the way through the Turks & Caicos and Bahamas to Florida. Are you guys starting to get ready? The current track has it hitting the Ft. Pierce/Vero Beach area at 8AM on Saturday. Daytona Beach will be on the bad side. Pappy, this means you are pretty darned close to the projected track. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 12:56:16 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Ernie wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Current projected track brings it right over my head! That is not going to be a good place to be. > But it doesnt matter > where it makes landfall, this monster is bigger than the state of > Florida. It is pretty big and it is expected to intensify some. Time to batten down the hatches. > Will just have to hang on and hope for the best. So where are you going to fly your airplane to get out of the way? Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 12:57:38 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I wouldnt know which plane to save and which to leave behind. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mills, Bill" <Bill.Mills@avnet.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mills, Bill" <Bill.Mills@Avnet.com> > > Swamp Dragons, I'm probably going to head out with the bird again, > probably Friday. If anyone else wants to join on my wing, let me know. > Leaving Flagler Beach and heading west. > > Good luck to all > > Bill Mills > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > We lucked out. Frances was far enough north that all we got on St. > Thomas was a little rain and some 30 kt wind gusts (at least that is > what my wind instruments on the boat registered). > > Now Frances is on the way through the Turks & Caicos and Bahamas to > Florida. Are you guys starting to get ready? The current track has it > hitting the Ft. Pierce/Vero Beach area at 8AM on Saturday. Daytona > Beach will be on the bad side. Pappy, this means you are pretty darned > close to the projected track. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > > > == > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > == > == > == > >


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    Time: 01:38:17 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Ernie wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I wouldnt know which plane to save and which to leave behind. Want me to catch a commercial flight up? They should be able to get over the top. I can fly out your CJ while you take the L-29. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 02:11:17 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I wont be flying anywhere, I have 3 planes here, I dont know which one I would sacrifise, so I'm gonna baten down and stay with all of them. My place is built like a bunker. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > > On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Ernie wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > Current projected track brings it right over my head! > > That is not going to be a good place to be. > > > But it doesnt matter > > where it makes landfall, this monster is bigger than the state of > > Florida. > > It is pretty big and it is expected to intensify some. Time to batten > down the hatches. > > > Will just have to hang on and hope for the best. > > So where are you going to fly your airplane to get out of the way? > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 02:27:23 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I really appreciate all the offers, you guys are the best . But My hangar is built like a brick out house I'm in the center of the state and there are no large trees near me. Trust me when I tell you that my house and hangar were constructed to withstand 130 MPH winds. Its all stick built, with 2x10 vertical beams, with 2x8 rafters, and 2x6 ceiling joists. Then I have double the number of rafters as usual , all joists are lag bolted and glued to the rafters, and the 1 1/4 inch plywood sheathing is screwd and glued to the rafters. Then there are steel 1" rods every 36" which hold the roof to the slab, then there are the 4x4 aluminum 90 degree angle brckaets on the outside of the house which further attach the roof to the walls. I have reinforced Highfold doors, with stainless attach points in my aprons which I use to tie down the doors to keep them from blowing in. My house is buit equally robust. The guy who built this place was some ecentric machinest from up North, and really went bezerk when he built this place, everything is double code. He spent 9 years building it himself. Ask Pappy or Craig, they've seen this place. The joke here at the air ranch is that my place is the storm shelter and this is where everyone is coming. Plus with my 30KW propane generator and 200 gal tank, I'll be just fine. I really do appreciate all your concern, but the truth is, unless I run to Arizona, this storm can do damage anywhere in the SE. Thanks Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > > On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Ernie wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > I wouldnt know which plane to save and which to leave behind. > > Want me to catch a commercial flight up? They should be able to get > over the top. > > I can fly out your CJ while you take the L-29. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 02:42:56 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 1, 2004, at 5:10 PM, Ernie wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I wont be flying anywhere, I have 3 planes here, I dont know which one > I > would sacrifise, so I'm gonna baten down and stay with all of them. My > place > is built like a bunker. Well, if you decide to leave one behind to take its chances in the bunker and fly the other two out, I will be happy to help. BTW, this goes for anyone else who needs help moving their airplane(s) out of harm's way. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 02:45:44 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 1, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Ernie wrote: > I really do appreciate all your concern, but the truth is, unless I > run to > Arizona, this storm can do damage anywhere in the SE. Frances is only traveling at 14 kts. It doesn't take much to stay ahead of it. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 03:04:17 PM PST US
    From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
    Subject: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Did I hear Ernie say: "The party is at my house... free BEER" No? Oh Sorry....My bad Ernie. Take care.... and well... better you than me. My house is "normal". Mark N50YK -----Original Message----- From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com] Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> I really appreciate all the offers, you guys are the best . But My hangar is built like a brick out house I'm in the center of the state and there are no large trees near me. Trust me when I tell you that my house and hangar were constructed to withstand 130 MPH winds. Its all stick built, with 2x10 vertical beams, with 2x8 rafters, and 2x6 ceiling joists. Then I have double the number of rafters as usual , all joists are lag bolted and glued to the rafters, and the 1 1/4 inch plywood sheathing is screwd and glued to the rafters. Then there are steel 1" rods every 36" which hold the roof to the slab, then there are the 4x4 aluminum 90 degree angle brckaets on the outside of the house which further attach the roof to the walls. I have reinforced Highfold doors, with stainless attach points in my aprons which I use to tie down the doors to keep them from blowing in. My house is buit equally robust. The guy who built this place was some ecentric machinest from up North, and really went bezerk when he built this place, everything is double code. He spent 9 years building it himself. Ask Pappy or Craig, they've seen this place. The joke here at the air ranch is that my place is the storm shelter and this is where everyone is coming. Plus with my 30KW propane generator and 200 gal tank, I'll be just fine. I really do appreciate all your concern, but the truth is, unless I run to Arizona, this storm can do damage anywhere in the SE. Thanks Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > > On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Ernie wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > I wouldnt know which plane to save and which to leave behind. > > Want me to catch a commercial flight up? They should be able to get > over the top. > > I can fly out your CJ while you take the L-29. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 03:53:27 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Actually, there probably will be a huricane party here, since I'll be the only person on the air ranch with Air Conditioning. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> > > Did I hear Ernie say: "The party is at my house... free BEER" > > No? > > Oh Sorry....My bad Ernie. > > Take care.... and well... better you than me. My house is "normal". > > Mark > N50YK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com] > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > I really appreciate all the offers, you guys are the best . But My hangar is > built like a brick out house I'm in the center of the state and there are no > large trees near me. Trust me when I tell you that my house and hangar were > constructed to withstand 130 MPH winds. Its all stick built, with 2x10 > vertical beams, with 2x8 rafters, and 2x6 ceiling joists. Then I have double > the number of rafters as usual , all joists are lag bolted and glued to the > rafters, and the 1 1/4 inch plywood sheathing is screwd and glued to the > rafters. Then there are steel 1" rods every 36" which hold the roof to the > slab, then there are the 4x4 aluminum 90 degree angle brckaets on the > outside of the house which further attach the roof to the walls. I have > reinforced Highfold doors, with stainless attach points in my aprons which I > use to tie down the doors to keep them from blowing in. My house is buit > equally robust. The guy who built this place was some ecentric machinest > from up North, and really went bezerk when he built this place, everything > is double code. He spent 9 years building it himself. > > Ask Pappy or Craig, they've seen this place. > > The joke here at the air ranch is that my place is the storm shelter and > this is where everyone is coming. > > Plus with my 30KW propane generator and 200 gal tank, I'll be just fine. > > I really do appreciate all your concern, but the truth is, unless I run to > Arizona, this storm can do damage anywhere in the SE. > > Thanks > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > > > > > On Sep 1, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Ernie wrote: > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > > > I wouldnt know which plane to save and which to leave behind. > > > > Want me to catch a commercial flight up? They should be able to get > > over the top. > > > > I can fly out your CJ while you take the L-29. > > > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:00:19 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Anyone who wants to leave FL (don't forget....last one out is responsible for turning out the lights), you are more than welcome to come to Montgomery, AL here at the Wetumpka Airport, 08A. Although we won't have enough hanger space, at least you'll be out of harms way. I'll provide the ground transportation for anyone who shows up. And the avgas here is $2.54/gal. Call me at any of the telephone numbers below if you decide you want out of harms way. I'm here to help so don't hesitate to ask. Dennis 334-285-6263 home 334-285-2141 office 334-546-8182 cell www.yak-52.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hurricane Frances on the way to FL > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > > On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:23 PM, Ernie wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > Current projected track brings it right over my head! > > That is not going to be a good place to be. > > > But it doesnt matter > > where it makes landfall, this monster is bigger than the state of > > Florida. > > It is pretty big and it is expected to intensify some. Time to batten > down the hatches. > > > Will just have to hang on and hope for the best. > > So where are you going to fly your airplane to get out of the way? > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 06:28:39 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Yakinators Talked to my parents today and they are in Vero Beach. They say Francis is going to go right for them but have decided to stay. They recently retired to Florida and don't have allot of experience with Hurricanes so I'm asking the more experience persons on this list about their opinion of staying and riding out the storm. I hear it's going to be a bad one. With the reported strength of this storm is staying a good/bad idea? If I can convince them to leave does anyone have a place for them to camp out for a night or two? Thanks in advance for any help/answers/opinions. Frank YAK-52 N9110M The Wooden Bowl You Will Never Forget!!!! http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/woodbowl.html


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    Time: 08:17:41 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 1, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Frank Haertlein wrote: > Talked to my parents today and they are in Vero Beach. They say Francis > is going to go right for them but have decided to stay. They recently > retired to Florida and don't have allot of experience with Hurricanes > so > I'm asking the more experience persons on this list about their opinion > of staying and riding out the storm. I hear it's going to be a bad one. > With the reported strength of this storm is staying a good/bad idea? Frank, tell your parents to board up and go someplace else. This is a *serious* storm. The chances for serious property loss and threat-to-life is *very* high. They could be injured or killed. Tell them in no uncertain terms to evacuate. Grab the really valuable family papers and go. > If I can convince them to leave does anyone have a place for them to > camp out for a night or two? I am a bit far away to help but would if I could. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 09:44:16 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net>
    Subject: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Kelley is WRONG...... Cee Bailey's is not bad glass and is the same thickness as LP Aero. I have both glass. They both have issues in the install but poor installation is what causes cracked glass not the glass. I have had several tinted glass installations over the years and it is BAD installation that causes cracking. Use plexi drills, over size the holes, and use a silicon or nylon washer for the hole and it will not crack. I never had a crack in four installations. Do it right the first time. It will pay off. Good luck and take your time during install. Mark "SHREK" Schrick YAK DRIVER, LLC Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!! REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member 966 Wallace Drive San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 Hm/Fax 408-323-5150 Cell 408-391-6664 Email schrick@pacbell.net Website www.YAKDRIVER.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> I have installed canopies on 3 cjs and Doug Sapp has a guy that makes the right thickness for all the canopies. It takes me about 120 hours to do a complete set. The key to fitting the canopies to close is to make sure all the bows are square starting at the front and working aft. I would not install a canopy from C BAILEY. They are not the right thickness and will crack during assembly or soon after. kelley




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