Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/02/04


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 12:24 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
     2. 06:43 AM - To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Frank Haertlein)
     3. 06:47 AM - Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Ernie)
     4. 08:13 AM - Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Brian Lloyd)
     5. 08:47 AM - Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Ernie)
     6. 09:09 AM - Frances (Jeff Linebaugh)
     7. 01:08 PM - Cable tension (yak52)
     8. 01:13 PM - Re: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's (Kelley Monroe)
     9. 01:28 PM - Re: Yak-55 Gear (Coffey, John)
    10. 04:51 PM - Re: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's (Doug Sapp)
    11. 04:52 PM - Re: Cable tension (Walt Lannon)
    12. 05:31 PM - Re: Cable tension (Terry Calloway)
    13. 07:00 PM - Re: Yak-55 Gear (Royden Heays)
    14. 07:33 PM - Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. (Sam Sax)
    15. 07:34 PM - Re: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's (Walt Lannon)
    16. 08:28 PM - Re: Cable tension (yak52)
    17. 09:38 PM - Ram air carb intake air scoop for Yak 55M (Royden Heays)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:24:16 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Yak-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Yak-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Yak-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Yak-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]


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    Time: 06:43:42 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Bryan Thanks for the info. I suspect you have allot of experience with hurricanes so I've already asked them to get the hell outta there. Thanks Frank YAK-52 N9110M Kerry Truck for Sale...... http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/kerrytruck.jpg


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    Time: 06:47:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> If they stay theres a possibility they can die. Dont want to be over dramatic here, but its a fact, the storms is going to make landfall right at Vero, but this storm is so big that yhere will be Hurricane force winds 180 miles out from the center. To put it in perspective, if it makes landfall at Vero, people in daytona beach will have +75 MPH winds. If they were my parents, I'd go down and drag them out myself. The storm surge alone is expected to be 16 feet above high tide, in other words I hope they're good body surfers. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Subject: Yak-List: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > Yakinators > > Talked to my parents today and they are in Vero Beach. They say Francis > is going to go right for them but have decided to stay. They recently > retired to Florida and don't have allot of experience with Hurricanes so > I'm asking the more experience persons on this list about their opinion > of staying and riding out the storm. I hear it's going to be a bad one. > With the reported strength of this storm is staying a good/bad idea? > > If I can convince them to leave does anyone have a place for them to > camp out for a night or two? > > Thanks in advance for any help/answers/opinions. > > Frank > YAK-52 > N9110M > The Wooden Bowl You Will Never Forget!!!! > http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/woodbowl.html > >


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    Time: 08:13:01 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Frank Haertlein wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" > <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > Bryan > Thanks for the info. I suspect you have allot of experience with > hurricanes Not so much with hurricanes but I have a lot of experience being a blowhard. ; ) > so I've already asked them to get the hell outta there. Listen to Ernie too. Get them the hell out of Dodge. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 08:47:56 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Have them get a hotel in Naples or Ft Meyers, or Key West, nice place, nice restaurants, beautiful beaches, far from the bad stuff. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. > --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Frank Haertlein wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" > > <yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > > > Bryan > > Thanks for the info. I suspect you have allot of experience with > > hurricanes > > Not so much with hurricanes but I have a lot of experience being a > blowhard. ; > ) > > > so I've already asked them to get the hell outta there. > > Listen to Ernie too. Get them the hell out of Dodge. > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > >


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    Time: 09:09:09 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Frances
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jeff Linebaugh" <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> I am still in shock seeing the damage of Charlie in the middle of the state! ..anyone wanting to stick around (except Ernie in his bunker) does not understand the force these storms have. DC-3s flipped over on their backs? T-6's smashed in their hangars. But that's not the only problem....just talked with my buddy in Orlando- he watched two fist fits in line at Gas Stations today...everyone is on edge and the stores are all out of everything. Anybody wanting to bail out of the way is welcome here in Memphis! Lots of room for people and Yaks.... Jeff Linebaugh


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    Time: 01:08:38 PM PST US
    From: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org>
    Subject: Cable tension
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> I have the following numbers for cable tension for a Yak 52 Elevator 121 lbF for a temperature of 90 Rudder 99 lbF for a temperature of 90 Can anybody please verify? Thanks Deon


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    Time: 01:13:20 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> I have only install canopies on cjs so, I don't know about yaks. But I did install a Cee Bailey canopie over the pilot on my first cj . I sent them the old glass and they molded a new piece from that . The new glass was 1/6" thinner that the oe glass. I called them and they said that's the only thickness they have for that canopie. That was about 6 years back so they may have changed what they are doing. I agree that poor installation will cause canopies to crack at any time. However some canopie materials are more forgiving than others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > > Kelley is WRONG...... Cee Bailey's is not bad glass and is the same thickness > as LP Aero. I have both glass. They both have issues in the install but poor > installation is what causes cracked glass not the glass. I have had several > tinted glass installations over the years and it is BAD installation that > causes cracking. Use plexi drills, over size the holes, and use a silicon or > nylon washer for the hole and it will not crack. > > I never had a crack in four installations. Do it right the first time. It will > pay off. Good luck and take your time during install. > > Mark "SHREK" Schrick > > YAK DRIVER, LLC > Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW > Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!! > REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member > 966 Wallace Drive > San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 > Hm/Fax 408-323-5150 > Cell 408-391-6664 > Email schrick@pacbell.net > Website www.YAKDRIVER.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> > > I have installed canopies on 3 cjs and Doug Sapp has a guy that makes the > right thickness for all the canopies. It takes me about 120 hours to do a > complete set. The key to fitting the canopies to close is to make sure all > the bows are square starting at the front and working aft. I would not > install a canopy from C BAILEY. They are not the right thickness and will > crack during assembly or soon after. > > kelley > >


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    Time: 01:28:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Yak-55 Gear
    From: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com> Why d'ya say a 260cm prop is "too long", Richard? I've run a 260cm Whirlwind on my Yak-55m for about 500hrs. NO landing gear extenders, just 15-6x600 tires on Matco wheels/brakes. NO issues. No wheel landings, of course, but I've never needed a wheel landing. Works great. Accelerates like a bat out of hell, nice pseudo-hover, too. Curious, John Coffey Yak-55m Lover -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Subject: Yak-List: Yak-55 Gear --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" --> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-55 Gear "Spreading" of 55 gear is common, particularly if landed a bit hard. We have found the only long-term solution is to remove the undercarriage, and take it to an engineering firm with a big hydraulic press, and re-set the gear. The titanium is springy and this process doesn't in any way seem to weaken it, and effectively brings it back to new. In terms of 3-blade propellers, they will always give a far better performance than the Russian 2-blade. However, even with the correct gear, the 260cm MT prop is definitely too long. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 04:51:13 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Kelly is right, all that "glitters is not Plexiglas". There are about 4 different types of material used, so if you go for the cheap price you will most likely get the lower grade material which tends to be both harder to work with and a bit more brittle. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe Subject: Re: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> I have only install canopies on cjs so, I don't know about yaks. But I did install a Cee Bailey canopie over the pilot on my first cj . I sent them the old glass and they molded a new piece from that . The new glass was 1/6" thinner that the oe glass. I called them and they said that's the only thickness they have for that canopie. That was about 6 years back so they may have changed what they are doing. I agree that poor installation will cause canopies to crack at any time. However some canopie materials are more forgiving than others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > > Kelley is WRONG...... Cee Bailey's is not bad glass and is the same thickness > as LP Aero. I have both glass. They both have issues in the install but poor > installation is what causes cracked glass not the glass. I have had several > tinted glass installations over the years and it is BAD installation that > causes cracking. Use plexi drills, over size the holes, and use a silicon or > nylon washer for the hole and it will not crack. > > I never had a crack in four installations. Do it right the first time. It will > pay off. Good luck and take your time during install. > > Mark "SHREK" Schrick > > YAK DRIVER, LLC > Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW > Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!! > REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member > 966 Wallace Drive > San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 > Hm/Fax 408-323-5150 > Cell 408-391-6664 > Email schrick@pacbell.net > Website www.YAKDRIVER.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> > > I have installed canopies on 3 cjs and Doug Sapp has a guy that makes the > right thickness for all the canopies. It takes me about 120 hours to do a > complete set. The key to fitting the canopies to close is to make sure all > the bows are square starting at the front and working aft. I would not > install a canopy from C BAILEY. They are not the right thickness and will > crack during assembly or soon after. > > kelley > >


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    Time: 04:52:18 PM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Cable tension
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> Where did you find those numbers? Cable tension is given in lbs (or kg) not in lb/ft. In any case the numbers are wrong, without knowing any specifics for the Yak 52 I can assure you that the primary cables ( i.e.: 3 to 4 mm dia) will be tensioned in the 30 to 50 lb range. Tensioning to 120 lbs. will likely cause structural damage, the cable can handle that but the pulley attachments probably cannot. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> Subject: Yak-List: Cable tension > --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> > > I have the following numbers for cable tension for a Yak 52 > > Elevator 121 lbF for a temperature of 90 > Rudder 99 lbF for a temperature of 90 > > Can anybody please verify? > > Thanks > Deon > >


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    Time: 05:31:11 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: Cable tension
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> Everyone one on this list should be very thankful for folks like Walt and others that actually read all the crap and keep it in check. Thank you Walt. tc >>> wlannon@cablerocket.com 9/2/2004 6:52:06 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> Where did you find those numbers? Cable tension is given in lbs (or kg) not in lb/ft. In any case the numbers are wrong, without knowing any specifics for the Yak 52 I can assure you that the primary cables ( i.e.: 3 to 4 mm dia) will be tensioned in the 30 to 50 lb range. Tensioning to 120 lbs. will likely cause structural damage, the cable can handle that but the pulley attachments probably cannot. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> Subject: Yak-List: Cable tension > --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> > > I have the following numbers for cable tension for a Yak 52 > > Elevator 121 lbF for a temperature of 90 > Rudder 99 lbF for a temperature of 90 > > Can anybody please verify? > > Thanks > Deon > >


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    Time: 07:00:08 PM PST US
    From: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net>
    Subject: Yak-55 Gear
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net> John, I think you will find that your Whirlwind is 256 cm. Nevertheless, that equates to 2 cm (less than 1 inch) better ground clearance than the 260 cm prop, so your point is well taken. What I have not been able to figure out is why your 1993 Yak 55M stands so much taller than my 1988 Yak 55M when neither A/C has gear extenders. I have read somewhere somebody saying that the 260 cm prop is too big for some Yak 55's. I wonder if the factory changed the length of the gear along the way. Maybe the long wing 55 has shorter gear than the 55M. Royden CGRED -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Coffey, John Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak-55 Gear --> Yak-List message posted by: "Coffey, John" <john.coffey@attws.com> Why d'ya say a 260cm prop is "too long", Richard? I've run a 260cm Whirlwind on my Yak-55m for about 500hrs. NO landing gear extenders, just 15-6x600 tires on Matco wheels/brakes. NO issues. No wheel landings, of course, but I've never needed a wheel landing. Works great. Accelerates like a bat out of hell, nice pseudo-hover, too. Curious, John Coffey Yak-55m Lover -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Subject: Yak-List: Yak-55 Gear --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" --> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Yak-55 Gear "Spreading" of 55 gear is common, particularly if landed a bit hard. We have found the only long-term solution is to remove the undercarriage, and take it to an engineering firm with a big hydraulic press, and re-set the gear. The titanium is springy and this process doesn't in any way seem to weaken it, and effectively brings it back to new. In terms of 3-blade propellers, they will always give a far better performance than the Russian 2-blade. However, even with the correct gear, the 260cm MT prop is definitely too long. Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Newport House Almeley Herefordshire HR3 6LL United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 322200 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 322208 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == == == == ==


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    Time: 07:33:49 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question.
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Frank, If they expect a direct (or close) hit - Get them out! In a case like this, boarding the house up with hurricane shutters would increase the chance of finding the house somewhat less than totally gone (if they are very lucky). If they really give you a hassle about leaving town, at least get them to an official Shelter - usually a school structure built out of concrete. These would probably be filled to capacity by now. If the stay and survive - they will be so traumatized that you may have a problem communicating with them for a long time. You see, it is not only the destruction power of wind around the eye, but the many tornados spawning all around the eye for several miles in width - I haven't even mentioned flood and other goodies. I am in Miami still working on boarding our home up. We decided to stay in as we expect the storm will pass somewhere to our north (that could change too). Once a hurricane scared the living SH_T out of you, you absolutely WILL respect it a lot more and will know what to do for the next one. Nuff said - best to you and your family and to all that are in Hurricane Frances' path. Sam Sax Miami, FL -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein Subject: Yak-List: To Stay Or Not To Stay, That Is The Question. --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Yakinators Talked to my parents today and they are in Vero Beach. They say Francis is going to go right for them but have decided to stay. They recently retired to Florida and don't have allot of experience with Hurricanes so I'm asking the more experience persons on this list about their opinion of staying and riding out the storm. I hear it's going to be a bad one. With the reported strength of this storm is staying a good/bad idea? If I can convince them to leave does anyone have a place for them to camp out for a night or two? Thanks in advance for any help/answers/opinions. Frank YAK-52 N9110M The Wooden Bowl You Will Never Forget!!!! http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/woodbowl.html


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    Time: 07:34:04 PM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> If I remember correctly from long ago quality control duties the approved material for aircraft use was Plexiglas "G". But that was a very long time ago. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Subject: RE: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > Kelly is right, all that "glitters is not Plexiglas". There are about 4 > different types of material used, so if you go for the cheap price you will > most likely get the lower grade material which tends to be both harder to > work with and a bit more brittle. > > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> > > I have only install canopies on cjs so, I don't know about yaks. But I did > install a Cee Bailey canopie over the pilot on my first cj . I sent them > the old glass and they molded a new piece from that . The new glass was > 1/6" thinner that the oe glass. I called them and they said that's the only > thickness they have for that canopie. That was about 6 years back so they > may have changed what they are doing. I agree that poor installation will > cause canopies to crack at any time. However some canopie materials are > more forgiving than others. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s or Yak 52's > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > > > > Kelley is WRONG...... Cee Bailey's is not bad glass and is the same > thickness > > as LP Aero. I have both glass. They both have issues in the install but > poor > > installation is what causes cracked glass not the glass. I have had > several > > tinted glass installations over the years and it is BAD installation that > > causes cracking. Use plexi drills, over size the holes, and use a silicon > or > > nylon washer for the hole and it will not crack. > > > > I never had a crack in four installations. Do it right the first time. It > will > > pay off. Good luck and take your time during install. > > > > Mark "SHREK" Schrick > > > > YAK DRIVER, LLC > > Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW > > Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!! > > REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member > > 966 Wallace Drive > > San Jose, Ca 95120-1848 > > Hm/Fax 408-323-5150 > > Cell 408-391-6664 > > Email schrick@pacbell.net > > Website www.YAKDRIVER.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Yak-List: canopies cj6s > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> > > > > I have installed canopies on 3 cjs and Doug Sapp has a guy that makes the > > right thickness for all the canopies. It takes me about 120 hours to do a > > complete set. The key to fitting the canopies to close is to make sure > all > > the bows are square starting at the front and working aft. I would not > > install a canopy from C BAILEY. They are not the right thickness and will > > crack during assembly or soon after. > > > > kelley > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:28:55 PM PST US
    From: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org>
    Subject: Cable tension
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> Walt, Thanks for responding - My numbers are in lb Force not lb feet. Or in metric kgp which is kg Fource - 1kgp = 1kgf = 9.81 N and 1lbF = 4.448 N So basically the Elevator is 55lb for 90 And the Rudder 47.5 for 90 I should have been more clear - Thanks, Deon. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walt Lannon Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cable tension --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> Where did you find those numbers? Cable tension is given in lbs (or kg) not in lb/ft. In any case the numbers are wrong, without knowing any specifics for the Yak 52 I can assure you that the primary cables ( i.e.: 3 to 4 mm dia) will be tensioned in the 30 to 50 lb range. Tensioning to 120 lbs. will likely cause structural damage, the cable can handle that but the pulley attachments probably cannot. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> Subject: Yak-List: Cable tension > --> Yak-List message posted by: "yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> > > I have the following numbers for cable tension for a Yak 52 > > Elevator 121 lbF for a temperature of 90 > Rudder 99 lbF for a temperature of 90 > > Can anybody please verify? > > Thanks > Deon > >


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    Time: 09:38:57 PM PST US
    From: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net>
    Subject: Ram air carb intake air scoop for Yak 55M
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Royden Heays" <heaysr@telus.net> Does anybody have a ram air carb intake air scoop for a Yak 55M that they want to sell. My Yak came without one. Royden Heays C-GRED




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