Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/09/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:24 AM - Re: wx (Brian Lloyd)
     2. 04:28 AM - Re: wx (Brian Lloyd)
     3. 05:06 AM - acro in the 52 (HodgeJW@aol.com)
     4. 06:56 AM - Re: wx (YakL1@aol.com)
     5. 06:56 AM - Re: acro in the 52 (Genzlinger, Reade)
     6. 07:07 AM - CJ Wanted (Ernie)
     7. 07:09 AM - Re: wx (YakL1@aol.com)
     8. 07:12 AM - Yak acro (HodgeJW@aol.com)
     9. 07:44 AM - Re: Yak acro (Richard Basiliere)
    10. 07:59 AM - Re: wx (Brian Lloyd)
    11. 09:39 AM - Re: wx (Doug Sapp)
    12. 10:42 AM - Re: wx (Brian Lloyd)
    13. 12:49 PM - Re: CJ Wanted (Kelley Monroe)
    14. 12:51 PM - Re: CJ Wanted (Kelley Monroe)
    15. 12:52 PM - Re: CJ Wanted (Kelley Monroe)
    16. 12:53 PM - Re: CJ Wanted (Kelley Monroe)
    17. 12:59 PM - Re: CJ Wanted (Kelley Monroe)
    18. 12:59 PM - Member Locator (Terry Calloway)
    19. 06:05 PM - Re: wx (Frank Haertlein)
    20. 06:17 PM - We're still here! (cjpilot710@aol.com)
    21. 06:50 PM - Re: We're still here! (Terry Calloway)
    22. 08:28 PM - New set of Dresser Tires for sale (Paul Blakely)
    23. 08:32 PM - All RED STAR Official bumper sticker for the bay area (N13472@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:24:49 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 10:04 PM, Ernie wrote: > that whale oil could lower our dependance on fossil fuels. So my motto > is > recycle farts, kill the whales, save the plankton, starve Opec and burn > whale oil! PC to the bone Ernie! The only problem is that you failed to skewer a number of other sacred cows. See if you can work a little lay theology, racism, and misogyny in there while you are at it. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 04:28:58 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 10:13 PM, FamilyGage@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com > > Brian, > > The Democrats are absolutely correct! Global warming is primary cause > of > hurricanes and forest fires. Too many Republicans driving large SUV's > and > flying foreign aircraft. Well you will be happy to know that I have done my part! No large SUV for me. I am driving a *small* SUV and right now all I am flying is a domestic aircraft that has been recycled! As for only Republicans driving SUVs, read on. On this subject I got one of the best laughs in my life in the heartland of liberal values. I used to fly to work every day from Cameron Park, CA, to Palo Alto. I worked in Menlo Park. Palo Alto is the home of Stanford University and has a distinct liberal bias. The people of liberal bent who have a *LOT* of money then move from Palo Alto to Menlo Park and Atherton. Some years ago I ended up with a Fiat X1/9 in a convoluted trade so I kept that as my airport car at Palo Alto. As I was driving to work from PAO I stopped at a traffic light behind a Lincoln Navigator, whose rear bumper was at my eye level. Here I was treated to a pantheon of bumper stickers championing various worthy causes. "Earth First" proclaimed one. Others touted "Greenpeace", "Save the Whales", and "Stop The Oil Drilling in California." The incongruity of this gas-guzzling behemoth admonishing the world to stop drilling for oil had me in almost instant hysterics. I almost missed the light I was laughing so hard. Only in California. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 05:06:53 AM PST US
    From: HodgeJW@aol.com
    Subject: acro in the 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: HodgeJW@aol.com Hey Folks, I'm in the process of buying a Yak 52, in which I plan to compete in advanced category acro. What I'm wondering is, am I the only one doing this? I haven't heard anybody talking about contest flying in the 52. Seems like there should be a bunch of us out there. For those who gave me the contact numbers for Sergei, thanks. I called him yesterday and had fun talking to him. What a nice guy. Trying to set up a date to hook up with him in October and get some serious coaching in the Yak's habits. Take care. Jay


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    Time: 06:56:05 AM PST US
    From: YakL1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/04 7:07:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes: We should all convert our airplanes to run on manure. This would reduce the methane content in the atmosphere which is a green house gas. It has been proven that cow farts alone contribute to 10% of the worlds methane production. If we could only harness these farts and create some sort of fart injection system, I believe we could get an increase in horsepower and a reduction in green house gasses by burning these farts and turning them into harmless carbon monoxide gas which only kills people. If we then learn to capture our exhaust, and release them over populations of less desirable people, then we would really be on the road to environmental responsibility. No...you've got it all wrong. We should destroy our gas-guzzling airplanes and get our hot air balloon liscences. There is plenty of free hot air generated by people who insist on opining on matters concerning which they have absolutely no knowledge or training. There may be even more generated by unthankful former allies who, now that their own national prominence has long passed, spitefully blame the world's problems on the United States. It's especially poignant when they do so in English or French, instead of the German or Japanese they would be speaking today if not for the valiant sacrifice of my father and his cohorts of 55 years ago... John


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    Time: 06:56:15 AM PST US
    From: "Genzlinger, Reade" <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com>
    Subject: acro in the 52
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Genzlinger, Reade" <ReadeG@Cairnwood.com> Jay: I do aerobatics in my 52 through the intermediate figures. The problem with today's advanced maneuvers are the negative elements. The 52 has a hard time making negative (high) g look nice (although it does a very nice inverted flick). I agree - it would be nice to see more 52's in competition - I'm working on it - have at it! Reade Reade Genzlinger Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation 215.914.0370 readeg@cairnwood.com -----Original Message----- From: HodgeJW@aol.com [mailto:HodgeJW@aol.com] Subject: Yak-List: acro in the 52 {SPAM?} Header --> Yak-List message posted by: HodgeJW@aol.com Hey Folks, I'm in the process of buying a Yak 52, in which I plan to compete in advanced category acro. What I'm wondering is, am I the only one doing this? I haven't heard anybody talking about contest flying in the 52. Seems like there should be a bunch of us out there.


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    Time: 07:07:30 AM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Guys and Gals, I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. Ernie


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    Time: 07:09:07 AM PST US
    From: YakL1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com Oops... I forgot to add this insensitive tagline beneath my signature. John _http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/political.php_ (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/political.php)


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    Time: 07:12:02 AM PST US
    From: HodgeJW@aol.com
    Subject: Yak acro
    --> Yak-List message posted by: HodgeJW@aol.com Mark, I think you must be thinking of another Jay. I just bought my Yak from Tom Johnson in PHX. If all goes well I will be flying it home Sept. 29th. In my first e mail I should have said, "compete UP TO advanced" not "IN advanced." I plan on starting in intermediate for a year or two. I last did sportsman a few years ago in a Citabria and after flying the Yak, I don't believe that intermediate should be a problem at all. Advanced seems like it COULD be as high as a 52 can be competitive. Jay Hodge


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    Time: 07:44:26 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: Yak acro
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Jay; I competed in a Yak-52 from 9/96 to 9/98 up to and including US Nationals in Intermediate in '98. I got all my "awards patches" through Advanced in the -52. I flew through Unlimited in my Yak-55 98-2000 and now fly Unlimited in SU-29. Your work is cut out for you to be competitive in Advanced in Yak-52. Sea Level will help and get used to 101% (most of the -52 drivers cringe at that power setting). Build a scoop for the carb air intake to get some ram effect and increased MP. I think that coming out of something "up" then doing an inside or outside roller will be challenging for your -52. I'm the only one that I know of that did so much competitive akro with my -52, even had sight gauges on both wings. Written up in original Yak Driver mag by Dr. Bud Harrell. 10 contests or so in that 2 years and about that many trophies. Colorado, Kansas, Texas, Arizona. I believe I was the first to "do" US Nationals in a Yak-52 at any level. She is a great akro plane (I'll own another - someday). Keep the List informed as to how you do, please. With so many personal pronouns in the last statements maybe we can hear from -52 drivers that will knock me off my self proclaimed perch :-) Please. Respectfully, Rick >>> HodgeJW@aol.com 9/9/2004 8:08:49 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: HodgeJW@aol.com Mark, I think you must be thinking of another Jay. I just bought my Yak from Tom Johnson in PHX. If all goes well I will be flying it home Sept. 29th. In my first e mail I should have said, "compete UP TO advanced" not "IN advanced." I plan on starting in intermediate for a year or two. I last did sportsman a few years ago in a Citabria and after flying the Yak, I don't believe that intermediate should be a problem at all. Advanced seems like it COULD be as high as a 52 can be competitive. Jay Hodge


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    Time: 07:59:54 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 9, 2004, at 10:05 AM, YakL1@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com > > Oops... I forgot to add this insensitive tagline beneath my signature. > > John > > > (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/political.php) Uh oh. You can't say that! Someone might become offended! (Insert drivel about empowerment or something here.) Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 09:39:36 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> No, the manure idea is NOT a good idea. If we used all the manure to power our aircraft what would we use for the Yak List? :>) Sorry guys, could not resist. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YakL1@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: wx --> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/04 7:07:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes: We should all convert our airplanes to run on manure. This would reduce the methane content in the atmosphere which is a green house gas. It has been proven that cow farts alone contribute to 10% of the worlds methane production. If we could only harness these farts and create some sort of fart injection system, I believe we could get an increase in horsepower and a reduction in green house gasses by burning these farts and turning them into harmless carbon monoxide gas which only kills people. If we then learn to capture our exhaust, and release them over populations of less desirable people, then we would really be on the road to environmental responsibility. No...you've got it all wrong. We should destroy our gas-guzzling airplanes and get our hot air balloon liscences. There is plenty of free hot air generated by people who insist on opining on matters concerning which they have absolutely no knowledge or training. There may be even more generated by unthankful former allies who, now that their own national prominence has long passed, spitefully blame the world's problems on the United States. It's especially poignant when they do so in English or French, instead of the German or Japanese they would be speaking today if not for the valiant sacrifice of my father and his cohorts of 55 years ago... John


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    Time: 10:42:56 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 9, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Doug Sapp wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > No, the manure idea is NOT a good idea. If we used all the manure to > power > our aircraft what would we use for the Yak List? :>) Sorry guys, > could not > resist. Well, from a technical aspect, we can process the manure to power our aircraft and then use what is left for the Yak-list. More recycling. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802


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    Time: 12:49:55 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Wanted > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Guys and Gals, > > I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 12:51:05 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Wanted > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Guys and Gals, > > I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 12:52:16 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Wanted > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Guys and Gals, > > I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 12:53:19 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Wanted > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Guys and Gals, > > I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 12:59:16 PM PST US
    From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: CJ Wanted
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Wanted > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Guys and Gals, > > I've got a neighbor here where I live that would like to get into a CJ. Please forward pics and spec to my email address. He's looking for a normal plane, not a $500K executive conversion with built in latte machine, just a nice clean CJ with low hours and price. > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 12:59:19 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Member Locator
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> Are there any members near Novato, CA (near Napa Co.) that could stop in and take a look at an airplane I am thinking of buying? If so please contact me off list. Thanks; tc


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    Time: 06:05:43 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: wx
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> We should all convert our airplanes to run on manure. Ernie ROTFLMAO. Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Frank YAK52 N9110M


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    Time: 06:17:22 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: We're still here!
    RAre406906@aol.com, JGoolsby@umaryland.edu, keith.goolsby@eds.com, artziggy6@yahoo.com, vicky@shippei.com, paraisoam@surfbest.net, EdrisDee@aol.com, Ckelso17@earthlink.net --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Troops and family, We're still here! Frances did a better number on us than Charlie. No phone nor electricity for 4 days. Lots of tree stuff to clean up but house and hangar in good shape. Our runway is flooded somewhat and there is water across the road out front. Brings back the days as a very young kid when we had neither a/c nor flood control. I've got 3 or 4 days of yard work to do before I can get back to work on the CJ. Now we face "Ivan" and he's a nasty one. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "The reason older men are like fine wine: when young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. "Kill them all. Let God sort them out" Crusaders 900 AD "With my shield, or on it." Trojan Warriors, BC


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    Time: 06:50:28 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: We're still here!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> Now we face "Ivan" and he's a nasty one. Jim Goolsby Yeah, but at least this one is a RED STAR. :()


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    Time: 08:28:22 PM PST US
    From: Paul Blakely <jpblake@yahoo.com>
    Subject: New set of Dresser Tires for sale
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Paul Blakely <jpblake@yahoo.com> I have a sent of new unsued Yak-52 or CJ-6 Dresser tires. Tires purchased in December 2003 still in box. one 400 X 150 with inner tube two 500 X 150 with inner tube please respond off the list jpblake@yahoo.com or 956-425-8809. __________________________________


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    Time: 08:32:28 PM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: All RED STAR Official bumper sticker for the bay area
    --> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com In keeping with Brian's suggestion I think the ARS bumper sticker should be NUKE THE UNBORN GAY WHALES That covers most sacred cows. -> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 10:04 PM, Ernie wrote: > that whale oil could lower our dependence on fossil fuels. So my motto > is > recycle farts, kill the whales, save the plankton, starve OPEC and burn > whale oil! PC to the bone Ernie!=A0 The only problem is that you failed to skewer a number of other sacred cows.=A0 See if you can work a little lay theology, racism, and misogyny in there while you are at it. Tom Elliott CJ-6 N63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2




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