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1. 03:58 AM - carb jets (Rob Kent)
2. 04:40 AM - Just dropped in...continued (Dr. Robert Schroeder)
3. 04:51 AM - Re: Just dropped in...continued (Gus Fraser)
4. 05:33 AM - gone (cjpilot710@aol.com)
5. 06:14 AM - Re: Just dropped in (David Marsh)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Just dropped in (Gus Fraser)
7. 07:41 AM - Re: Just dropped in (Ernie)
8. 08:30 AM - Re: Just dropped in (Sam Sax)
9. 02:32 PM - Re: Just dropped in (Gus Fraser)
10. 03:27 PM - Re: Just dropped in (David Marsh)
11. 03:57 PM - Re: Just dropped in (Doug Sapp)
12. 04:27 PM - Re: Just dropped in (Gus Fraser)
13. 05:38 PM - Airspeed Indicator Wanted (Graeme Frew)
14. 05:55 PM - Value (Frank Stelwagon)
15. 06:13 PM - Re: Value (Gus Fraser)
16. 10:39 PM - YAK-52 mineral oil and ashless dispersants. (Frank Haertlein)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Kent" <spares@russianaeros.com>
The carburettor uses a number of different jets. In his email Richard
mentions the acceleration pump fuel jet. These jets are the same as the
suction jets. The only difference between the two is the diameter of the
hole in the jet.
The suction jets range in interchangeable sizes from 1.3mm to 2.0mm
inclusive. Increasing the jet diameter will lean out the mixture. Decreasing
the jet diameter enriches the mixture and helps keep the engine cool at high
power settings. A change in jet diameter of 0.1mm changes the specific fuel
consumption at take-off rating for 10 to 15 grams per horse power per hour.
It is normal pratice, after changing this jet to adjust the engine in cruise
rating II via the metering needle adjustment screw.
The acceleration pump fuel jets range in interchangeable sizes from 0.9mm to
1.4mm inclusive. When increasing the acceleration jet diameter, the
acceleration pump delivery increases and vice versa.
These jets are available from stock as a set ranging from 0.9mm to 1.9mm
inclusive (one of each size per set) or as individual sizes (2.0mm not
available). More information can be obtained by contacting me by phone, fax
or email or, alternatively by visiting our website.
Regards
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
Tel:- +44 1628 829165
Fax:- +44 1628 828961
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| Subject: | Just dropped in...continued |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <firedog@visi.com>
Gus,
I would be interested in a CJ valuation profile.
I'm sure others are as well.
Standing by,
Robert Schroeder
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| Subject: | Just dropped in...continued |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Happy to do it I just need the CJ great and good to provide the figures.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dr. Robert
Schroeder
Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in...continued
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <firedog@visi.com>
Gus,
I would be interested in a CJ valuation profile.
I'm sure others are as well.
Standing by,
Robert Schroeder
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Going off line until Sunday. Going to join the guys in TN. After all these
damn hurricanes, I'm due for a little levity. Like watching FNGs trying to
fly formation. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve
neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"The reason older men are like fine wine: when young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
"Kill them all. Let God sort them out"
Crusaders 900 AD
"With my shield, or on it."
Trojan Warriors, BC
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| Subject: | Re: Just dropped in |
--> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
Gus,
good tool (!). The only major cost variable that is missing is the
quality/pose value of the paint scheme. Clearly this is the most important
part of the aircraft to CJ folks, but it does matter even to us lowly
Yakkers.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
long,
> I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some valuation
rules
> for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for other types but I am
> not interested in those. I spent all of three hours on this but the
variance
> from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a large
> ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
whatever
> rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know and I will
do
> you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just dropped in |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
I thought about this last night. Suppose it were done on the basis of poor,
fair, good, a1 where each were a percentage of the basic calculated price.
I will put a condition selection in and then you can take it for a spin. Of
course there is nothing but a1 aircraft out there right :)
Gus
...... Original Message .......
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:11:40 -0400 David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca> wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
>
>Gus,
>
>good tool (!). The only major cost variable that is missing is the
>quality/pose value of the paint scheme. Clearly this is the most important
>part of the aircraft to CJ folks, but it does matter even to us lowly
>Yakkers.
>
>Dave.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>>
>> Hi gang,
>> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
>> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
>long,
>> I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some valuation
>rules
>> for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for other types but I am
>> not interested in those. I spent all of three hours on this but the
>variance
>> from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>>
>> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>>
>> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a large
>> ballpark.
>>
>> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
>whatever
>> rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know and I will
>do
>> you a blue book.
>>
>> Gus
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just dropped in |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I think your airframe depreciation @ $100 per month is a bit high,
especially with the CJ's which are much older (mine is a 64, but with only
2500 hrs tot approx). I'm not as familiar with the 52 as I am with the CJ,
but there is litterally no difference between model years with respect to
airframe. Airframe total time and damage history is a better guage. Look at
a new CJ and a 30 year old one from the inside and you will see no
difference, the only tangible difference would be fatigue life remaining.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> It is really hard to account for all the special stuff on an individual
> aircraft. The only intention with the blue book is to provide a starting
> point. The one area that may need a tweak is the age. What do we all think
> an aircraft depreciates at ?
>
> Two examples
>
> 1. A 1982 Yak with 0 time, spent it's life in the factory holding the door
> open, what's it worth ?
>
> 2. A 1998 Yak with zero time, got lost on a ship in the atlantic during
> shipping, the long shore men just found it. What's it worth ?
>
> Obviously the newer aircraft would be worth more but how much ?
>
> The other thing that is hard to account for is an overhaul. But anyway, it
> is just for s*&ts and giggles.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
> get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
> go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
> something wrong with your formula.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
> long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
> valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
> other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
> on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
> large ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
> whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
> and I will do you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
Ernie,
Airframe age typically will make a difference in price even if both older
and newer airframes have the same total hours and no known damage history.
Maybe its only psychological (other the very real fatigue/stress issue) but
I would expect to pay more for a newer airframe all other parameters being
equal - so in my opinion age would have a depreciating effect. I agree
though that $100 is too high, $50 is more like it in the CJ case, in my
opinion. I did however see late 1980s CJs, low time airframes with hanger
rashes (Chinese) and rougher inside than many 1960s, 1970s birds. Its all
on a case by case basis.
FWIW,
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I think your airframe depreciation @ $100 per month is a bit high,
especially with the CJ's which are much older (mine is a 64, but with only
2500 hrs tot approx). I'm not as familiar with the 52 as I am with the CJ,
but there is litterally no difference between model years with respect to
airframe. Airframe total time and damage history is a better guage. Look at
a new CJ and a 30 year old one from the inside and you will see no
difference, the only tangible difference would be fatigue life remaining.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> It is really hard to account for all the special stuff on an individual
> aircraft. The only intention with the blue book is to provide a starting
> point. The one area that may need a tweak is the age. What do we all think
> an aircraft depreciates at ?
>
> Two examples
>
> 1. A 1982 Yak with 0 time, spent it's life in the factory holding the door
> open, what's it worth ?
>
> 2. A 1998 Yak with zero time, got lost on a ship in the atlantic during
> shipping, the long shore men just found it. What's it worth ?
>
> Obviously the newer aircraft would be worth more but how much ?
>
> The other thing that is hard to account for is an overhaul. But anyway, it
> is just for s*&ts and giggles.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
> get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
> go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
> something wrong with your formula.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
> long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
> valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
> other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
> on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
> large ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
> whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
> and I will do you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
I added a general condition multiplier to the blue book calculator, see if
that makes more sense.
Remember that these prices are based on the US market.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Gus;
According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
something wrong with your formula.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Hi gang,
Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
large ballpark.
Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
and I will do you a blue book.
Gus
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Just dropped in |
--> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
Gus,
I like the change for condition but I'm now wondering about the 2000 hr TBO.
Does anyone have any experience of going this long before needing an engine
change ?
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> I added a general condition multiplier to the blue book calculator, see if
> that makes more sense.
>
> Remember that these prices are based on the US market.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
> get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
> go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
> something wrong with your formula.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
> long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
> valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
> other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
> on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
> large ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
> whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
> and I will do you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
My nickels worth:
M14P 500 hours TBO in Russia
M14B 1000 hours TBO in Russia
I have been told that in the UK these engines are recognized as good for 2
times TBO if they have been on US or English oils right from the git go.
Mark or Richard, you out there?? We all know that there are many M14P's out
there, still churning along, well past 500 hours, some at the 1000 hour
mark, but to say that the TBO is 2000 hours, well I think that may well be
wishful thinking.
As Brian says, your mileage may vary.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Marsh
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
Gus,
I like the change for condition but I'm now wondering about the 2000 hr TBO.
Does anyone have any experience of going this long before needing an engine
change ?
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> I added a general condition multiplier to the blue book calculator, see if
> that makes more sense.
>
> Remember that these prices are based on the US market.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
> get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
> go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
> something wrong with your formula.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
> long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
> valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
> other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
> on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
> large ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
> whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
> and I will do you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
TBO This will obviously have an effect what is the general feeling about TBO
?
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Sapp
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
My nickels worth:
M14P 500 hours TBO in Russia
M14B 1000 hours TBO in Russia
I have been told that in the UK these engines are recognized as good for 2
times TBO if they have been on US or English oils right from the git go.
Mark or Richard, you out there?? We all know that there are many M14P's out
there, still churning along, well past 500 hours, some at the 1000 hour
mark, but to say that the TBO is 2000 hours, well I think that may well be
wishful thinking.
As Brian says, your mileage may vary.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Marsh
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Just dropped in
--> Yak-List message posted by: David Marsh <swampy@videotron.ca>
Gus,
I like the change for condition but I'm now wondering about the 2000 hr TBO.
Does anyone have any experience of going this long before needing an engine
change ?
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> I added a general condition multiplier to the blue book calculator, see if
> that makes more sense.
>
> Remember that these prices are based on the US market.
>
> Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Gus;
> According to your calculations my plane is worth 50K. If that's all I'd
> get for it I'd keep it. With all the work I have in it I wouldn't let it
> go for less than 70K and that's on the cheap side. There's got to be
> something wrong with your formula.
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Just dropped in
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Hi gang,
> Just dropped in to post this. While selling my aircraft I have tried to
> understand the market, I guess I have worked for Goldman Sachs for too
> long, I looked at aircraft for sale and tried to come up with some
> valuation rules for a used Yak 52, I am sure that it can be done for
> other types but I am not interested in those. I spent all of three hours
> on this but the variance from asking price out there seems to bear out.
>
> http://www.gusfraser.com/bluebook.shtml
>
> Obviously every aircraft is unique, all I tried to do was develop a
> large ballpark.
>
> Any thoughts ? If you CJ guys want to think about your market using
> whatever rules you like, that can be expressed as a formula let me know
> and I will do you a blue book.
>
> Gus
>
>
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| Subject: | Airspeed Indicator Wanted |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Does anyone know of a source for a 0-800 kmph speedo. Preferably one not made from
solid gold with diamond movements.
Graeme Frew
Nanchang 01 (And no it's not for my Nanchang!)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
Come on guys,
A Blue book for YAK's and CJ's. First of you never find 2 alike, each is modified/equipped
to suit its owner. The owner sets a price that seems correct to
him and adjusts to suit the market. Why do we have to make everything harder
and more complex. I guess that is a stock broker.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
More broke than stock :)
Gus Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Stelwagon
Subject: Yak-List: Value
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon"
<pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
Come on guys,
A Blue book for YAK's and CJ's. First of you never find 2 alike, each is
modified/equipped to suit its owner. The owner sets a price that seems
correct to him and adjusts to suit the market. Why do we have to make
everything harder and more complex. I guess that is a stock broker.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| Subject: | YAK-52 mineral oil and ashless dispersants. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakinators
Originally, my 52 came with an engine that had 365 hours on it running
the stock, Russian mineral oil. Since I've owned it I've put over 300
hours on the engine using Aeroshell W100 ash less dispersant oil
(non-mineral). At first, the oil would come out black after only an hour
running so I've gone overboard and changed the oil every two or three
flights. I figured this was prudent considering the engine spent a good
portion of it's life on mineral oil and oil changes are allot cheaper
than an engine replacement. Now it takes over 3 hours of flight for the
oil to begin going black. The trend has been toward cleaner oil for a
longer period. It's as though the W100 is acting as a solvent in
cleaning the engine. It would appear that frequent oil changes are
flushing the engine of sediments that may have precipitated out of the
original mineral oil during it's first 365 hours of operation.
Compression measurements along the way show little change.
Any arguments pro or con to this method?
Frank Haertlein
N9110M
Yak-52
The legacy of 911
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/never_forget.html
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