Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/10/04


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:27 PM - Kimble's Fall Fly-in *** This Weekend ***** (Charlie Lynch)
     2. 01:37 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/09/04 (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
     3. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/09/04 (Ernie)
     4. 04:30 PM - Metric thread (Ernie)
     5. 05:01 PM - Re: Metric thread (Jorgen Nielsen)
     6. 05:15 PM - One more time (Barry Hancock)
     7. 05:50 PM - CJ followers....WHAT? (Frank Haertlein)
     8. 06:23 PM - Re: CJ followers....WHAT? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     9. 06:32 PM - Re: Kimble's Fall Fly-in *** This Weekend ***** (Gus Fraser)
    10. 06:33 PM - Re: CJ followers....WHAT? (Bpx2horn@aol.com)
    11. 07:13 PM - Re: Metric thread (Ron Davis)
    12. 07:27 PM - Yak vs CJ (Graeme Frew)
    13. 09:19 PM - Re: Metric thread (Walt Lannon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:27:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Kimble's Fall Fly-in *** This Weekend *****
    From: "Charlie Lynch" <lynch@netjets.com>
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Charlie Lynch" <lynch@netjets.com> Kimble's Aviation Fall Fly-in Georgetown, DE (KGED) Oct. 14th - 17th We currently have 21 participants and 17 aircraft. If you have not filled out an attendance form, please call me or send me an email and I will get one off to you. We are planning to have some great events and good times. We will have the following: * RPA formation ground school Friday morning taught by Ski and Al DeVere * Basic formation training with instructors Friday all day * RPA Lead school taught by Mike Filucci Friday evening * Advance formation Saturday night in both 2 and 4 ship flights * Two mass formation flights Saturday morning. * A flour bombing contest Saturday afternoon * Sunday morning will be left open for recommendation & check rides There will be lots of good food, cool beverages and plenty of tall tales. I hope you all can join us. Take Care, Charlie Mr. Charles R. Lynch 99 Winthrop Drive Riverside, CT 06878 (203) 637 - 2914 office (203) 637 - 4747 fax (732) 599 - 5473 cell Lynch@NetJets.com


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    Time: 01:37:31 PM PST US
    From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/09/04
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com> To all those that took part and especialy the mangment of "All red star" event you did a wonderfull job as viewed from the excelent cut of video on http://www.muzility.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?code=svmtvpub/allredstar I noted that many more CJ folowers were there than YAK's, why is that? Congratulations on the close formation flying, I see that you have modeled your flying after that of the "Blue Angels", in the UK our formation flying is modeled on that of the "red Arrows" www.yakuk.com/video.asp has a number of clips. The acm looked great also (not so sure about using the clouds though) Pity the tape did not show and jet formation and air 2 air, perhaps next year. We just had formation week in the UK, 2 hawker hunters took part along with YAK's. Last airshow of the season today at Duxford, 7 spitfire in formation and a/f beat up. T33, seahawk & Sabre as a jet formation. congratulations again, lets hope the same team want to arrange another success next year, its hard work !! bye MJ Best regards, Mark www.yakuk.com


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    Time: 04:28:32 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/09/04
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Was Tony Smith there with his spitty? Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK" <mark.j@yakuk.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/09/04 > --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com> > > > To all those that took part and especialy the mangment of "All red star" event you did a wonderfull job as viewed from the excelent cut of video on http://www.muzility.com/cgi-bin/viewer.cgi?code=svmtvpub/allredstar I noted that many more CJ folowers were there than YAK's, why is that? > > Congratulations on the close formation flying, I see that you have modeled your flying after that of the "Blue Angels", in the UK our formation flying is modeled on that of the "red Arrows" www.yakuk.com/video.asp has a number of clips. > > The acm looked great also (not so sure about using the clouds though) Pity the tape did not show and jet formation and air 2 air, perhaps next year. > > We just had formation week in the UK, 2 hawker hunters took part along with YAK's. Last airshow of the season today at Duxford, 7 spitfire in formation and a/f beat up. T33, seahawk & Sabre as a jet formation. > > congratulations again, lets hope the same team want to arrange another success next year, its hard work !! bye MJ > > > Best regards, Mark > www.yakuk.com > >


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    Time: 04:30:23 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Metric thread
    0.26 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> WHo out there can describe the thread on the pnematic fittings on out aircraft. Are they metric NPT or are they something else? What is the size, taper, TPI etc. Does anyone know where I could get the taps and dies? Ernie


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    Time: 05:01:01 PM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Metric thread
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> Ernie I can find out for you here, will try do so this week. South Africa is all metric. It may be easier to get dies from here. Of so can ship to you. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie Subject: Yak-List: Metric thread --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> WHo out there can describe the thread on the pnematic fittings on out aircraft. Are they metric NPT or are they something else? What is the size, taper, TPI etc. Does anyone know where I could get the taps and dies? Ernie == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 05:15:25 PM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
    Subject: One more time
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org> ARS III video WITH sound.... http://www.muzility.com/video/svmtvpvt/allredstar/=A0 Barry


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    Time: 05:50:29 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: CJ followers....WHAT?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Mark, you said, and I quote "I noted that many more CJ folowers were there than YAK's, why is that?" Well, the simple answer is that some people don't want to explore the full flight envelope. They may even be afraid of it. Hence the choice of a CJ6. On the other hand, if you're not afraid to explore the full capabilities of your aircraft and not afraid of reaching the limits of your own flying skill then you have but one choice......The YAK-52 :) Frank N9110M YAK-52 (L71)


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    Time: 06:23:20 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ followers....WHAT?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:51:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yak52driver@earthlink.net writes: Mark, you said, and I quote "I noted that many more CJ folowers were there than YAK's, why is that?" Well, the simple answer is that some people don't want to explore the full flight envelope. They may even be afraid of it. Hence the choice of a CJ6. On the other hand, if you're not afraid to explore the full capabilities of your aircraft and not afraid of reaching the limits of your own flying skill then you have but one choice......The YAK-52 :) Frank N9110M YAK-52 (L71) Excuse me! OTOH If one wants to explore beyond the next airport, one must pick a CJ-6. BTW the CJ-6 has demonstrated inverted spins. SAFE, inverted spins. AND if one needs to explore the realm of high speed flight, one must pick a CJ-6. The envelope of the Yak may be only as big as the airport traffic pattern while that of the CJ stretches beyond the horizon - in one leg. :) AH yes, to each his own. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "The reason older men are like fine wine: when young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. "Kill them all. Let God sort them out" Crusaders 900 AD "With my shield, or on it." Trojan Warriors, BC


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    Time: 06:32:21 PM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: Kimble's Fall Fly-in *** This Weekend *****
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Charlie, I will be there, is there a handy aerobatics box that I can use ? Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Lynch Subject: Yak-List: Kimble's Fall Fly-in *** This Weekend ***** --> Yak-List message posted by: "Charlie Lynch" <lynch@netjets.com> Kimble's Aviation Fall Fly-in Georgetown, DE (KGED) Oct. 14th - 17th We currently have 21 participants and 17 aircraft. If you have not filled out an attendance form, please call me or send me an email and I will get one off to you. We are planning to have some great events and good times. We will have the following: * RPA formation ground school Friday morning taught by Ski and Al DeVere * Basic formation training with instructors Friday all day * RPA Lead school taught by Mike Filucci Friday evening * Advance formation Saturday night in both 2 and 4 ship flights * Two mass formation flights Saturday morning. * A flour bombing contest Saturday afternoon * Sunday morning will be left open for recommendation & check rides There will be lots of good food, cool beverages and plenty of tall tales. I hope you all can join us. Take Care, Charlie Mr. Charles R. Lynch 99 Winthrop Drive Riverside, CT 06878 (203) 637 - 2914 office (203) 637 - 4747 fax (732) 599 - 5473 cell Lynch@NetJets.com


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    Time: 06:33:04 PM PST US
    From: Bpx2horn@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ followers....WHAT?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com Hey Jim, With 74 gallons availible to me in my 52 TW I can keep it up just as long if not longer than the average CJ owner.... I can stay in the air too.... Paul


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    Time: 07:13:59 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Metric thread
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com> The threads that are taper threads on a Chinese, Russian, ect. plane are NPT, the same as Americans use: 1/8-27 and up. The pitch is the same for all pipe fittings of a given size (no course and fine to worry about). One notable exception is the air and O2 bottles on L-39s (and perhaps other planes). If you can find out what that fitting is called, please pass the info on. I've never been able to identify it, let alone find a tap for it. It is very long, has more taper than an NPT and appears to be soldered into the tank after being screwed in and tightened. I tried some British taps because when I think of oddball threads, I..... Well, we don't need to go into that. None of the British taps I've tried are the same as the L-39 O2 tanks. The flared (straight threads) on an Eastern Block aircraft are fairly normal metric threads, except they tend to be finer pitch than the same size bolt would be. A good hardware store will have a metric thread pitch guage that you can use to find the pitch. Use a vernier caliper to find the diameter and remember that they are in whole millimeters so round the number you get to eliminate the decimal. They are available from machinist supply stores. I hope I answered the question you asked.


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    Time: 07:27:37 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Yak vs CJ
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net> Gentleman start your engines!!


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    Time: 09:19:02 PM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Metric thread
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> Ernie; I concur with Ron Davis's reply, the pipe threads are the same. I believe they are an original metric standard (like spark plugs) accepted by all. The air fittings are 1/8 NPT (National Pipe Taper) and the grease fittings are 1/8 NPS ( National Pipe Straight). Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Yak-List: Metric thread > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > WHo out there can describe the thread on the pnematic fittings on out aircraft. Are they metric NPT or are they something else? What is the size, taper, TPI etc. > > Does anyone know where I could get the taps and dies? > > Ernie > >




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