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1. 05:00 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/12/04 (Steven A. Dalton)
2. 06:30 AM - Hangar Nazis (Tim Gagnon)
3. 09:25 AM - CJ Horizontal Spar (Ernie)
4. 09:39 AM - Horiz spar (Ernie)
5. 10:28 AM - Re: Horiz spar (Doug Sapp)
6. 11:14 AM - Re: Power settings (Mike Beresford)
7. 11:36 AM - Re: Horiz spar (Kelley Monroe)
8. 12:46 PM - Re: Horiz spar (Ernie)
9. 01:10 PM - Re: Horiz spar (Terry Calloway)
10. 01:40 PM - Front canopy removal (Graeme Frew)
11. 02:42 PM - Re: Front canopy removal (Kelley Monroe)
12. 03:26 PM - Re: Power settings (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
13. 04:04 PM - Re: Hanger Nazi's (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
14. 04:55 PM - Re: Front canopy removal (Graeme Frew)
15. 09:07 PM - Re: Russian Threads (Ron Davis)
16. 09:34 PM - Re: Fw: I protect the world from idiots like this!! (Ron Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/12/04 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steven A. Dalton" <sdalton@goeaston.net>
>Hey, I have a question for the TW owners. Is it true that spins are
>
>not recommended with someone in the back seat? That this was never
>
>tested at the factory?
I own the first TW made and have flown it for about 330 hours. The following are
my observations.
I don't believe the factory did any spin testing.
The CG was near the aft limit for acro with two people aboard. I added electric
start, in addition to air, and that helps move the cg forward. Also, relocating
the batteries forward makes this a total non-issue. I *think* the factory has
made the battery relocation standard to move the cg forward.
Since acro is prohibited with fuel in the aux tanks, and the main tanks hold 40
gallons, that really isn't an issue.
I know of one other TW owner, who in addition to myself, has done all types of
spins (upright, inverted and flat) with two people. No different than the old
-52 with the nose training wheel.
I do LOTS of acro in my TW and love it.
Steve Dalton
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Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:26:09 -0400
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
What if you had something of great value (besides the airplane) that turned up
missing during one of these visits?
"Hey, I had some say...camera equipment in the airplane and now it is gone!!"
Yeah..I would have a huge problem with someone snooping around in my hangar. A
friend of mine who has a Mustang that was hangared while on a cross country found
the local line guys crawling all over the airplane!! That would have led to
a serious beating...
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| Subject: | CJ Horizontal Spar |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Has anyone heard of a need to reinforce the horizontal stab spar on the CJ? I have
a buddy looking to purchase a plane and he mentioned one plane in particular
with a spar stiffner. The owner claims that older CJ's suffered from cracks.
Has anyone any knowledge of this???
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Well I checked the archives and saw a thread re: the doubler. I even found myself
with an unanswered post asking where to look for cracks. One "authority" said
that they check for cracks with dye penetrant. My question is this, how do
you check without pulling the skins off of the horizontals. This isnt something
that can be done at annual.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
The cracks appear near the center of the horiz close the points where it
attaches to the fuse. Inspection can be done by removing the fairings which
you should have off during annual anyway. If your aircraft is un cracked or
without this mod, this inspection should be done annually. IMHO even if you
have the mod you should inspect the area carefully every year also. I was
told that these cracks were the result of the PLAAF cadets snap rolling the
aircraft. In ACM high g turns that result in a hard buffet and a snap to
inverted are also hard on the horiz of aircraft with un braced tails such as
the CJ6. In the past there has been much talk and many opinions as to
rather the current heavy duty "stiffener" is excessively stiff and might
move the stress points outbd to an area (rib attach point) not meant to
carry the loads. I would have to agree that it might be over built and
should be instead made out of a material such as .032 2024-T3 and not
stainless steel.
As long as I am here:
FOR SALE
2001 CJ6A N700YK One of only 3 new CJ6's in civilian hands in the world.
22 hours Total airframe
22 hours 1st O/H 285 hp engine,
22 hours factory new propeller
Sump quick drain mod
New Hooker harnesses
Sigtronics war bird intercom
KY96 comm
AT150 with encoder
ELT
Stainless steel screw kit
Bladder tanks (64 gallons)
rear canopy seal kit
If you don't want the 285 and prop I'll buy it back for 9K.
Price 130K FOB Omak WA
will deliver for expenses.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: Horiz spar
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Well I checked the archives and saw a thread re: the doubler. I even found
myself with an unanswered post asking where to look for cracks. One
"authority" said that they check for cracks with dye penetrant. My question
is this, how do you check without pulling the skins off of the horizontals.
This isnt something that can be done at annual.
Ernie
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi all
I'm particularly interested from a fuel economy point
of view. Due to altitude restrictions at home airfield
(Rand, FAGM), I fly down to the south of the GFA where
I can get a decent height agl for aerobatics. I want
to get optimum fuel economy for the trip there and
back.
At the moment I cruise at 600 mm / 64%, altitude 7000
ft / 7500 ft depending on direction.
Blue skies
Mike
--- Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Mike
>
> Been running back & forth to FAVV a few times lately
> - there at 7000,
> back at 7500.
> At 7000 I can't get 735mm, usually get around 630
> wide open. So I use
> either wide open or 600mm, and pitch all the way
> back, around 64% (Think
> my low pitch needs adjustment, can't get lower).
>
> On Sunday I got (wheels off to wheels on):
> FAWB - FAVV 69NM 33 minutes 7000ft 630mm 64%
> FAVV - FAWB 64NM 32 Minutes 7500ft 600mm 64%
> Used a total of 69 litres of fuel, for 01h05 flying
> time.
>
> Your timing is good. I don't normally measure this,
> but did on Sunday
> just out of interest.
>
> Be nice to put a bigger blower on and get sea level
> performance up here.
>
> Are you based at FAGC?
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Mike Beresford
> >
> > HI all
> >
> > This might sound like a stupid question, but are
> the
> > power settings influenced by altitude?
> >
> > My home airfield is 5400 ft asl. On an average day
> the
> > ambient pressure is probably 600 mm Hg. The book
> > figures for power settings seem to assume ambient
> > pressure for normal sea level conditions.
> >
> > At the moment I tend to use 600 mm / 64% as my
> cruise
> > setting. This gives an indicated airspeed of
> 200-210
> > km/hr at 7000 / 7500 ft asl. Is this correct, or
> > should I be using 735 mm (would be about full
> > throttle)?
> >
> > Jorgen, what do you use out at FAWB?
> >
> > Blue skies
> > Mike Beresford
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
I have seen 5 or 6 horiz spars that were cracked. All of the cracks were in
the center near the hole that the cable goes through for the elevator. I
have installed a kit sold by Bill Blackwell made out of 4130 steel. It
takes about 15 hours to complete the install. I have had 2 cjs come from
China with a mod in this area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Horiz spar
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Ernie,
> The cracks appear near the center of the horiz close the points where it
> attaches to the fuse. Inspection can be done by removing the fairings
which
> you should have off during annual anyway. If your aircraft is un cracked
or
> without this mod, this inspection should be done annually. IMHO even if
you
> have the mod you should inspect the area carefully every year also. I
was
> told that these cracks were the result of the PLAAF cadets snap rolling
the
> aircraft. In ACM high g turns that result in a hard buffet and a snap to
> inverted are also hard on the horiz of aircraft with un braced tails such
as
> the CJ6. In the past there has been much talk and many opinions as to
> rather the current heavy duty "stiffener" is excessively stiff and might
> move the stress points outbd to an area (rib attach point) not meant to
> carry the loads. I would have to agree that it might be over built and
> should be instead made out of a material such as .032 2024-T3 and not
> stainless steel.
>
>
> As long as I am here:
>
> FOR SALE
> 2001 CJ6A N700YK One of only 3 new CJ6's in civilian hands in the world.
> 22 hours Total airframe
> 22 hours 1st O/H 285 hp engine,
> 22 hours factory new propeller
> Sump quick drain mod
> New Hooker harnesses
> Sigtronics war bird intercom
> KY96 comm
> AT150 with encoder
> ELT
> Stainless steel screw kit
> Bladder tanks (64 gallons)
> rear canopy seal kit
> If you don't want the 285 and prop I'll buy it back for 9K.
>
> Price 130K FOB Omak WA
> will deliver for expenses.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Horiz spar
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Well I checked the archives and saw a thread re: the doubler. I even found
> myself with an unanswered post asking where to look for cracks. One
> "authority" said that they check for cracks with dye penetrant. My
question
> is this, how do you check without pulling the skins off of the
horizontals.
> This isnt something that can be done at annual.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Thanks Doug,
I do take off the fairings every year and do give the area a thorough
inspection. Should I be doing a dye penetrant test?
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Horiz spar
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Ernie,
> The cracks appear near the center of the horiz close the points where it
> attaches to the fuse. Inspection can be done by removing the fairings
which
> you should have off during annual anyway. If your aircraft is un cracked
or
> without this mod, this inspection should be done annually. IMHO even if
you
> have the mod you should inspect the area carefully every year also. I
was
> told that these cracks were the result of the PLAAF cadets snap rolling
the
> aircraft. In ACM high g turns that result in a hard buffet and a snap to
> inverted are also hard on the horiz of aircraft with un braced tails such
as
> the CJ6. In the past there has been much talk and many opinions as to
> rather the current heavy duty "stiffener" is excessively stiff and might
> move the stress points outbd to an area (rib attach point) not meant to
> carry the loads. I would have to agree that it might be over built and
> should be instead made out of a material such as .032 2024-T3 and not
> stainless steel.
>
>
> As long as I am here:
>
> FOR SALE
> 2001 CJ6A N700YK One of only 3 new CJ6's in civilian hands in the world.
> 22 hours Total airframe
> 22 hours 1st O/H 285 hp engine,
> 22 hours factory new propeller
> Sump quick drain mod
> New Hooker harnesses
> Sigtronics war bird intercom
> KY96 comm
> AT150 with encoder
> ELT
> Stainless steel screw kit
> Bladder tanks (64 gallons)
> rear canopy seal kit
> If you don't want the 285 and prop I'll buy it back for 9K.
>
> Price 130K FOB Omak WA
> will deliver for expenses.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Horiz spar
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Well I checked the archives and saw a thread re: the doubler. I even found
> myself with an unanswered post asking where to look for cracks. One
> "authority" said that they check for cracks with dye penetrant. My
question
> is this, how do you check without pulling the skins off of the
horizontals.
> This isnt something that can be done at annual.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
Ernie,
The last I heard, annual was the same as every year.
The dye penetrant test is done on you skull.
You better leave both jobs to a professional though.
tc
ps Did you stop smoking again. :)
>>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 10/13/2004 2:04:13 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Thanks Doug,
I do take off the fairings every year and do give the area a thorough
inspection. Should I be doing a dye penetrant test?
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Horiz spar
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Ernie,
> The cracks appear near the center of the horiz close the points where
it
> attaches to the fuse. Inspection can be done by removing the
fairings
which
> you should have off during annual anyway. If your aircraft is un
cracked
or
> without this mod, this inspection should be done annually. IMHO even
if
you
> have the mod you should inspect the area carefully every year also.
I
was
> told that these cracks were the result of the PLAAF cadets snap
rolling
the
> aircraft. In ACM high g turns that result in a hard buffet and a
snap to
> inverted are also hard on the horiz of aircraft with un braced tails
such
as
> the CJ6. In the past there has been much talk and many opinions as
to
> rather the current heavy duty "stiffener" is excessively stiff and
might
> move the stress points outbd to an area (rib attach point) not meant
to
> carry the loads. I would have to agree that it might be over built
and
> should be instead made out of a material such as .032 2024-T3 and
not
> stainless steel.
>
>
> As long as I am here:
>
> FOR SALE
> 2001 CJ6A N700YK One of only 3 new CJ6's in civilian hands in the
world.
> 22 hours Total airframe
> 22 hours 1st O/H 285 hp engine,
> 22 hours factory new propeller
> Sump quick drain mod
> New Hooker harnesses
> Sigtronics war bird intercom
> KY96 comm
> AT150 with encoder
> ELT
> Stainless steel screw kit
> Bladder tanks (64 gallons)
> rear canopy seal kit
> If you don't want the 285 and prop I'll buy it back for 9K.
>
> Price 130K FOB Omak WA
> will deliver for expenses.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Horiz spar
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Well I checked the archives and saw a thread re: the doubler. I even
found
> myself with an unanswered post asking where to look for cracks. One
> "authority" said that they check for cracks with dye penetrant. My
question
> is this, how do you check without pulling the skins off of the
horizontals.
> This isnt something that can be done at annual.
>
> Ernie
>
>
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| Subject: | Front canopy removal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Could anyone tell me how to get the front canopy off of a Nanchang in easy steps.
Cheers
Graeme Frew
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| Subject: | Re: Front canopy removal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
You will need 2 people. Remove the pilots seat. Line up the canopy bearing
with the holes below the rails in the interior rear. Use a light to look in
the holes for alignment of screwdriver slot. Have one person hold the nuts
on the outside and the other insert the screw driver in the hole below the
canopy rail and turn it cc wise. This sounds easier than it is. Cheers
Kelley Monroe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Front canopy removal
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
>
> Could anyone tell me how to get the front canopy off of a Nanchang in easy
steps.
> Cheers
> Graeme Frew
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
As to the subject of getting best fuel economy. When I was ferrying a
YAK-50 to San Diego, Vladimir Yastremski advised me to take the throttle and
reduce it back from "full forward" until I could see a very small decrease
in manifold pressure and then just leave it there. Before that time,
whenever I was up high.... 7000-13,000 feet..... I would just leave the
throttle pegged against the firewall as I would in any other airplane.
But.... according to Vladimir, there is an enrichment circuit in the
carburetor when the throttle is WFO, and pulling it back slightly to where
you see just the beginning of reduction in manifold pressure results in a
significant savings in fuel.
I tried this. It seemed to work! I did not have accurate fuel flow
instrumentation to verify it, but I have done it ever since and have seemed
to achieve lower fuel consumption on cross countries.
I offer this information only as an interesting experiment. I have not
confirmed it by studying the internal workings of the carb., or by any other
means. On the flip side, Vladimir Yastremski usually has his "stuff" in one
bag when discussing the M-14P engine.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Beresford [mailto:mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Power settings
--> Yak-List message posted by: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi all
I'm particularly interested from a fuel economy point
of view. Due to altitude restrictions at home airfield
(Rand, FAGM), I fly down to the south of the GFA where
I can get a decent height agl for aerobatics. I want
to get optimum fuel economy for the trip there and
back.
At the moment I cruise at 600 mm / 64%, altitude 7000
ft / 7500 ft depending on direction.
Blue skies
Mike
--- Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Mike
>
> Been running back & forth to FAVV a few times lately
> - there at 7000,
> back at 7500.
> At 7000 I can't get 735mm, usually get around 630
> wide open. So I use
> either wide open or 600mm, and pitch all the way
> back, around 64% (Think
> my low pitch needs adjustment, can't get lower).
>
> On Sunday I got (wheels off to wheels on):
> FAWB - FAVV 69NM 33 minutes 7000ft 630mm 64%
> FAVV - FAWB 64NM 32 Minutes 7500ft 600mm 64%
> Used a total of 69 litres of fuel, for 01h05 flying
> time.
>
> Your timing is good. I don't normally measure this,
> but did on Sunday
> just out of interest.
>
> Be nice to put a bigger blower on and get sea level
> performance up here.
>
> Are you based at FAGC?
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Mike Beresford
> >
> > HI all
> >
> > This might sound like a stupid question, but are
> the
> > power settings influenced by altitude?
> >
> > My home airfield is 5400 ft asl. On an average day
> the
> > ambient pressure is probably 600 mm Hg. The book
> > figures for power settings seem to assume ambient
> > pressure for normal sea level conditions.
> >
> > At the moment I tend to use 600 mm / 64% as my
> cruise
> > setting. This gives an indicated airspeed of
> 200-210
> > km/hr at 7000 / 7500 ft asl. Is this correct, or
> > should I be using 735 mm (would be about full
> > throttle)?
> >
> > Jorgen, what do you use out at FAWB?
> >
> > Blue skies
> > Mike Beresford
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Well..... I was actually at an Airport Authority Meeting at New Bern North
Carolina when they sat right there and passed a rule that said they had the
right to enter and inspect any hanger on the field, due to the necessity of
verifying that the hanger was being kept in a safe and well maintained
condition. It kind of made me want to stand up and cry FOUL too, but I have
learned that trying to talk to Airport Authority Members is like "Tilting
Windmills". Concur on the very good idea of calling the police and
reporting stolen property after a "visit" like that.
Right up there on that same list was this same airport authority trying to
claim that they had the right to prohibit aerobatics in an established and
FAA approved aerobatic box. It took an FAA Representative telling them
that they had no jurisdiction on air space to curtail that one.
Not allowing user owned mobile refueling tanks on the field for even an
hour, was yet another (still in effect by the way)... after all you just
have to protect those FBO profits. By the way, the FBO refuses to sell
auto-fuel for use in aircraft, and also refuses to allow anyone to put in a
self-service pump.
Now... to top it all, an Airport Authority just down the road (Morehead
City, NC) has decided to use Federal Airport Security funds to purchase,
install and use camera equipment .... not to monitor the flight line or
borders for intruders... no siree. Instead to point at least one or more of
them at the RUNWAY to record those pilots and aircraft using runway 21 and
causing noise to the "city" when they determine they should not be. THEIR
(the airport authorities) explanation for these cameras is that a terrorist
could use runway 21 to take off from and then immediately crash into the
historic portions of the town. I guess if the wind favors another runway,
they feel that any terrorist actions would be curtailed.
Just gotta love those Airport Authority folks.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
p.s. And no, I am NOT kidding.
-----Original Message-----
From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger Nazi's
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Unbelievable! I'll bet some good aviation oriented attorney would jump all
over the unauthorized/no-notice entry thing, regardless of what it may say
in the lease agreement. That would be like someone renting an apartment or
any domain for that matter and the lessor arbitrarily entering the property
without prior notification to the lessee. What would happen if the lessee
happened to call the police and report a breaking and entering? To take it
one step further, what would have happened if the lessee had whacked the
perpetrator over the head because he/she wanted to protect his property?
Protecting his/her property is a "take appropriate action first, then ask
questions later".
I'll get down off my pedestal now! This just ticks me off!
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "cpayne1@joimail.com" <cpayne1@matronics.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Hanger Nazi's
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne1@joimail.com"
<cpayne1@matronics.com>
>
> Yes folks, TFR's are scary since they can "pop-up" at any
> time, especially during a busy campaign season. However,
> many pilots in the land of Hanging Chad face a real menace:
> Das Hanger Nazis. This last weekend I heard another Tale of
> Terror from a fellow warbirder at a local airshow.
>
> He hangers in SW Florida. The current airport admin entered
> his (and others) hanger without his knowledge...looking for
> signs of maintenance which is limited to a small partial
> shade hanger located across the field. No more than 6 qts of
> oil can be in the hanger, no wooden work bench, no spray
> paint, etc. They even got into his cabin for examination of
> paperwork, and opened the cowlings on the engines looking
> for fresh signs of maintenance, and non-STC'd mods,
> whatever.
>
> Since we now know that the 911 terrorists lived and trained
> in FLA, local airport authorities have taken such steps to
> protect the Homeland from the Pilot Menance. They expect
> local FBO's to help report crimes like "performing
> maintenance in a hanger without paying the FBO's mechanic".
> Dumping sumped fuel on the airport surface can result in a
> $50K fine but it's OK for Phosphate Mines to ignore their
> runoff...something about campaign contributions?
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front canopy removal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
Thanks Kelley,
I'll give it a try this afternoon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Front canopy removal
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> You will need 2 people. Remove the pilots seat. Line up the canopy
bearing
> with the holes below the rails in the interior rear. Use a light to look
in
> the holes for alignment of screwdriver slot. Have one person hold the
nuts
> on the outside and the other insert the screw driver in the hole below the
> canopy rail and turn it cc wise. This sounds easier than it is. Cheers
> Kelley Monroe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Front canopy removal
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Graeme Frew" <gfrew@attglobal.net>
> >
> > Could anyone tell me how to get the front canopy off of a Nanchang in
easy
> steps.
> > Cheers
> > Graeme Frew
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Russian Threads |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Don't you have some other pipe threads too- BSP or Wentworth or something?
I bought several taps while looking for the O2 bottle tap and they weren't
the same as Russian/US pipes. If you want I'll send a photo of the O2
fitting to see if you can identify it.
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: I protect the world from idiots like this!! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Has anyone kept track of how often the "just following orders" defense works
when the military murders innocent civilians?
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