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1. 12:04 AM - Re: Re: On group interaction (I've had enough) (Gerald Sweidan)
2. 02:58 AM - Emerg air (Lou Dakos)
3. 05:37 AM - Tandem troubles.. (Tim Gagnon)
4. 06:51 AM - Re: Pandora's Box... (RV_8 Pilot)
5. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: On group interaction (I've had enough) (Ernie)
6. 07:04 AM - Re: Tandem troubles.. (Brian Lloyd)
7. 08:13 AM - Yak 18T (Richard Goode)
8. 08:44 AM - Re: Yak 18T (Brian Lloyd)
9. 08:58 AM - Re: Emerg air (Doug Sapp)
10. 09:42 AM - Re: Yak 18T (davestroud)
11. 10:08 AM - Re: Yak 18T (Brian Lloyd)
12. 12:17 PM - Re: aluminum fuel tank repairs (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
13. 01:18 PM - Re: Emerg air (Lou Dakos)
14. 01:26 PM - Re: aluminum fuel tank repairs (Yak52)
15. 01:36 PM - Air Compressor (Ernie)
16. 02:25 PM - Re: Air Compressor (Terry)
17. 02:50 PM - Re: Air Compressor (Doug Sapp)
18. 07:44 PM - Re: aluminum fuel tank repairs (Walt Lannon)
19. 08:02 PM - Ernie's had enough (Frank Haertlein)
20. 08:35 PM - Ernie, consider just how important things like this are to us....... (Frank Haertlein)
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| Subject: | Re: On group interaction (I've had enough) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gerald Sweidan" <gerald.sweidan@sweidan.co.za>
Dear Scott et al
Relatively new to the list and an I3 owner (Hi Gus and Cliff). I am a CA
(CPA to the US fraternity) and am not privileged to be paid for my hobby
as some of you are...
So I miss the interaction with fellow aviators like you and really enjoy
reading the banter as well as the great tips.
I understand that someone in South Africa(?) is planning a YAK52 aero
competition in 2006 and I look forward to meeting some of you here ...
that is if the FDA do not ground some of you before then...
In the meanwhile...my view - lighten up and enjoy the privilege
(dubious... Scott?) of sharing the lives and thoughts of some real
interesting ...people.
Best wishes
Gerald
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
scott.huff@aivia.aero
Subject: Yak-List: Re: On group interaction (I've had enough)
--> Yak-List message posted by: scott.huff@aivia.aero
The last digest contained 14 messages (out of the 24 total) that were of
religious or political banter that really wasn't "orthogonal to the
discussion
of Yaks."
While all of us are truly passionate about our freedoms, I'm tired of
having to
delete non-Yak related noise that comes from this list. Other groups I'm
involved with manage to stay on topic ... Grumman Gang, CPA, and
Cardinal
Flyers for example. Every few weeks or so certain members of this group
consistently get off topic. I've had enough. I'm unsubscribing.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
Thank you gentelmen for your advice on my high emergency tank pressure I wound
my pop off valve spring out a little and went for a fly and all gauges red 50atm
on the button.
Lou
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| Subject: | Tandem troubles.. |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:32:35 -0400
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
Dennis, the Yak-18T is a nice airplane but I just cannot go that route. If I am
going to go that far, then I would get something a bit faster and more economical.
An aerobatic 4-seater is cool but not everyone likes acro! I equate it to
something I did this past December. I had bought a BMW 325Ci (Coupe) as a gift
to myslef when I upgraded to the left seat. In December, in preparation for
a family, I traded it in on a new Acura TL (which is an awesome car by the way).
Going from a sporty little two door to a four door was one of the hardest
things I have ever done!! I damn near cried!
Rick, the SU-29 is way beyond my means..but I agree they are a sweet ride. You
may recall a man named Tom Jones back in '90, who brought over the first (I think)
SU-26. I saw his first show in the airplane and his last. He was killed in
the airplane on Fathers Day at the Oklahoma City Airshow. What an impressive
airplane. Everyone who knew anything about airplanes would just watch him in
awe on what the airplane and the pilot could do! Someday maybe..
Gus, the SP-91 looks cool and the performance is not too shabby either!
Brian, She does want to learn how to fly. That may help things out. I think there
may be a Yak-52 (or CJ-6) in our future. If she learns how to fly, will she
want to hang out at the airport too!!?? By the way, how is the diving this time
of year in your neck of the woods? My wife and I need a vacation.
Scott...come back. Point taken...
Tim
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| Subject: | Pandora's Box... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>But now I have a bit of a problem, she gets "car"sick riding in the rear
>seat of a tandem! What I am supposed to do..get an RV? Help!
You'll have to tell her to keep her eyes outside the cockpit and out of the
book! ;)
BTW - best I can tell, about half the RV's flying are tandem. You have
seating arrgt choices there too.
2 cents
Bryan Jones
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: On group interaction (I've had enough) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
I wish all would just buy a soap box and go stand in a public place to spout
their drivel instead of doing it here. I've been out of town for a week, and
couldnt believe that for every 1 small post regarding PLANES of all things,
there would be 5 posts of topics of interest to some but of absolutely no
value when it comes to YAKS and CJ's!
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| Subject: | Re: Tandem troubles.. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Oct 21, 2004, at 8:32 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote:
> I equate it to something I did this past December. I had bought a BMW
> 325Ci (Coupe) as a gift to myslef when I upgraded to the left seat. In
> December, in preparation for a family, I traded it in on a new Acura
> TL (which is an awesome car by the way). Going from a sporty little
> two door to a four door was one of the hardest things I have ever
> done!! I damn near cried!
Tim, it is OK. You can still be a real man with a 4-door car.
Contrary to popular opinion, one's masculinity is not connected to the
type of car driven at all. A man's masculinity is actually tied to
what type of *AIRCRAFT* he flies. Given that most men do not fly, most
"men" are really effeminate "girly-men," which gives us real men all
kinds of advantages out there. (wink wink, nudge nudge)
BTW, aircraft ownership always enhances the attractiveness of a woman
as well. Just ask any male pilot. And the cooler the airplane, the
more attractive the woman.
> Brian, She does want to learn how to fly. That may help things out. I
> think there may be a Yak-52 (or CJ-6) in our future. If she learns how
> to fly, will she want to hang out at the airport too!!??
Yes, she will. She will become your willing slave even going so far as
to wash oil and exhaust stains off the belly of the airplane by choice.
You will begin to hear things like, "dear, you know that diamond
pendent we were talking about before I learned to fly? Well now I am
no longer interested. I really think we need to add a 260cm
three-blade MT prop to the Yak instead. I know you are disappointed
but we will manage somehow."
There is one down side. If your wife learns to fly and then has a
Yak-52 or CJ6A, she will become so attractive you may have to move to
someplace where there are no pilots.
> By the way, how is the diving this time of year in your neck of the
> woods? My wife and I need a vacation.
Diving is actually quite nice. The water is still very warm so you can
burn two tanks comfortably without any sort of wet suit. Let me know
if you want to come down. We can do some island hopping in the
Comanche as well.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good
citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak 18T, in reply to Tim Gagnon
To make it clear, I am very biased, and indeed have a vested interest since we
sell quite a lot of 18Ts!!
There is however a huge difference in performance (and indeed price) between an
old Soviet 18T, with all its heavy electrical and radio equipment, and the specification
of most of the ones that we currently sell.
We can save almost 250lbs on an empty aeroplane, which either goes into climb or
load; with 400-HP and 3-blade propeller, it has a genuine 165-knot cruise; will
operate out of 350-yards; and at medium weights, climbs at of 2,000-ft per
minute; and depending on fuel configuration has up to 9-hours fuel.
Also it is huge inside; a great aeroplane to fly; can have inverted fuel and oil
etc etc. Okay a Bonanza is a bit faster, but I don't think anything else can
match its combination of features.
I only wish they were easier to ship (even with the wings off an 18T needs an outsize
container), and I am sure there would be a lot more in the US!
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
> 2,000-ft per minute; and depending on fuel configuration has up to
> 9-hours fuel.
> ...
> I only wish they were easier to ship (even with the wings off an 18T
> needs an outsize container), and I am sure there would be a lot more
> in the US!
Richard, if it has 9 hours of fuel it would be cake to just fly it
across. Let me know if you need someone to ferry an 18T across the
pond.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good
citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Lou,
You may or may not have solved your problem. Unless this has been a problem
from day one I would suggest that the pop off was not your problem. Let me
play the devils advocate:
Your gauges may be defective and reading lower than what they actually are,
or there may be a bit of crud on the seal of your pop off valve. By
screwing down your pop off valve you now see the correct reading but may in
fact be over pressurizing your system. You have fixed the problem only
VISUALLY, you have not found the root cause of the problem and I would
caution you that screwing down the pop off valve can lead to explosive
consequences if you go too far and/or happen to have a old emergency or main
air tank that may be pitted or rusty. Remember that the CJ's run NORMALLY
at over 700 PSI, and if you screw down the pop off valve far enough you
could easily increase he pressure to over 1000 PSI.
To be sure of what you have you need to check the gauges with a known
quantity (pressure).
Recall the Yak 50 in the UK with the ruptured air tank, it was indeed not a
pretty picture. The pilot was very lucky that it happened on the ground.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lou Dakos
Subject: Yak-List: Emerg air
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
Thank you gentelmen for your advice on my high emergency tank pressure I
wound my pop off valve spring out a little and went for a fly and all gauges
red 50atm on the button.
Lou
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "davestroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
Take me with you, Brian..you'd probably want to arrive in Gander anyway and
I can
translate from English to Newfy, back and forth etc. :-)
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 18T
> > I only wish they were easier to ship (even with the wings off an 18T
> > needs an outsize container), and I am sure there would be a lot more
> > in the US!
>
> Richard, if it has 9 hours of fuel it would be cake to just fly it
> across. Let me know if you need someone to ferry an 18T across the
> pond.
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Oct 21, 2004, at 12:22 PM, davestroud wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "davestroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
>
> Take me with you, Brian..you'd probably want to arrive in Gander
> anyway and
> I can translate from English to Newfy, back and forth etc. :-)
Going eastbound I leap out of Gander because the winds aloft are more
favorable there. Coming back I prefer to go into Goose Bay as the
winds aloft are not as strong farther north.
I had no trouble with basic English (actually American) and hand
gestures when in Newfoundland.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good
citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | aluminum fuel tank repairs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
I'm sorry Dave.... Brian gave the specs for it in his original message,
I.E. (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. This material is
usually available from Aircraft Spruce or any other major supplier. There
is also a replacement for it that we use in the military that is just as
good, but I will have to look that number up for you.
This material comes in a two part mix. The type we use comes in a tube that
when you press in the plunger automatically mixes the two parts equally. It
looks and feels like a gray paste that is pretty much like a silicone rubber
substance, and in fact has a lot of the properties of that substance, except
for the fact that it is impervious to petrochemicals. Fuel and Oil will not
touch this stuff. It "hardens" to a very hard rubber kind of consistency
and if the surface has been properly repaired.... sticks like high strength
glue... no... ever BETTER than glue!
I keep several tubes of it handy at all times... along with 9906 (I need to
check on this number to be sure I am right about this one)... which is a
structural Hysol adhesive that bonds metal to metal. In my YAK-50, the
front nose ring halves (riveted to the top and bottom of the cowl in the
front) were cracking and I filled the whole structure with 9906 which
stopped the cracking dead in it's tracks.
Anyway, (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. (As Brian spec'ed it)
works just GANG-BUSTERS on any kind of fuel, hydraulic, or oil leak. We use
it quite heavily on the wet wing sections of the EA-6B.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: davestroud [mailto:davestroud@rogers.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
--> Yak-List message posted by: "davestroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
For the uninitiated Mark, could you please say what 8802 is? Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
..... I check the tank often and it is holding up well
> with no further signs of cracking or leakage.
>
> 8802 is some amazing material.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lou Dakos" <ldakos@bigpond.net.au>
Doug
When I re-built my cj I did check all three gauges against a good modern
gauge and I didn't screw my saftey valve down I screwed it out to lower
pressure
Lou
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| Subject: | aluminum fuel tank repairs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org>
Thanks for this explanation Mark - can you please double check on the 9906
as mentioned in your email - I would like to use it on my 52's cowl as well.
Deon Esterhuizen
Yak52
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich GS11
Mark G
Subject: RE: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
I'm sorry Dave.... Brian gave the specs for it in his original message,
I.E. (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. This material is
usually available from Aircraft Spruce or any other major supplier. There
is also a replacement for it that we use in the military that is just as
good, but I will have to look that number up for you.
This material comes in a two part mix. The type we use comes in a tube that
when you press in the plunger automatically mixes the two parts equally. It
looks and feels like a gray paste that is pretty much like a silicone rubber
substance, and in fact has a lot of the properties of that substance, except
for the fact that it is impervious to petrochemicals. Fuel and Oil will not
touch this stuff. It "hardens" to a very hard rubber kind of consistency
and if the surface has been properly repaired.... sticks like high strength
glue... no... ever BETTER than glue!
I keep several tubes of it handy at all times... along with 9906 (I need to
check on this number to be sure I am right about this one)... which is a
structural Hysol adhesive that bonds metal to metal. In my YAK-50, the
front nose ring halves (riveted to the top and bottom of the cowl in the
front) were cracking and I filled the whole structure with 9906 which
stopped the cracking dead in it's tracks.
Anyway, (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. (As Brian spec'ed it)
works just GANG-BUSTERS on any kind of fuel, hydraulic, or oil leak. We use
it quite heavily on the wet wing sections of the EA-6B.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: davestroud [mailto:davestroud@rogers.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
--> Yak-List message posted by: "davestroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
For the uninitiated Mark, could you please say what 8802 is? Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
..... I check the tank often and it is holding up well
> with no further signs of cracking or leakage.
>
> 8802 is some amazing material.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Has anyone ever rebuilt the compressor on the HS-6? Does anyone sell a rebuild
kit? My buddy is having trouble with his and we suspect the valve in the piston,
the compressor sucks but doesnt blow, no punn intended.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Air Compressor |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Ernie,
I have tried to repair one however it didn't work out very well.
I bought a new one from Doug Sapp. They are not that expensive.
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Air Compressor
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Has anyone ever rebuilt the compressor on the HS-6? Does anyone sell a
> rebuild kit? My buddy is having trouble with his and we suspect the valve
> in the piston, the compressor sucks but doesnt blow, no punn intended.
>
> Ernie
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ernie,
I have 2 compressors in stock, one new one and one used serviceable. Have
your friend contact me off list.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie
Subject: Yak-List: Air Compressor
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Has anyone ever rebuilt the compressor on the HS-6? Does anyone sell a
rebuild kit? My buddy is having trouble with his and we suspect the valve in
the piston, the compressor sucks but doesnt blow, no punn intended.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: aluminum fuel tank repairs |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Hi Mark, David:
8802 looks like the MIL Spec number - MIL (military specification) S
(sealant). Type 1 ( don't know, probably specific usage, e.g. integral fuel
tank sealing and/or chemical composition, etc.), "B" Heavy viscosity -
spatula or gun application ("A" is brush application), 1/2, 2, 4 refer to
mixed pot life in hours.
PRC 1422 A and B used to be the industry standard for integral fuel tank
sealant used by Douglas and Boeing at least up to the early B747. It may
still be, I see it is still listed on the PRCDeSoto web site but there are
many more as well.
There could be a number of different manufacturers producing sealant to meet
the Spec.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> I'm sorry Dave.... Brian gave the specs for it in his original message,
> I.E. (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. This material is
> usually available from Aircraft Spruce or any other major supplier. There
> is also a replacement for it that we use in the military that is just as
> good, but I will have to look that number up for you.
>
> This material comes in a two part mix. The type we use comes in a tube
that
> when you press in the plunger automatically mixes the two parts equally.
It
> looks and feels like a gray paste that is pretty much like a silicone
rubber
> substance, and in fact has a lot of the properties of that substance,
except
> for the fact that it is impervious to petrochemicals. Fuel and Oil will
not
> touch this stuff. It "hardens" to a very hard rubber kind of consistency
> and if the surface has been properly repaired.... sticks like high
strength
> glue... no... ever BETTER than glue!
>
> I keep several tubes of it handy at all times... along with 9906 (I need
to
> check on this number to be sure I am right about this one)... which is a
> structural Hysol adhesive that bonds metal to metal. In my YAK-50, the
> front nose ring halves (riveted to the top and bottom of the cowl in the
> front) were cracking and I filled the whole structure with 9906 which
> stopped the cracking dead in it's tracks.
>
> Anyway, (MIL-S-8802) Type 1, Class B-1/2, B-2, or B-4. (As Brian spec'ed
it)
> works just GANG-BUSTERS on any kind of fuel, hydraulic, or oil leak. We
use
> it quite heavily on the wet wing sections of the EA-6B.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davestroud [mailto:davestroud@rogers.com]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "davestroud" <davestroud@rogers.com>
>
> For the uninitiated Mark, could you please say what 8802 is? Thanks.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 Early construction
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: aluminum fuel tank repairs
>
>
> ..... I check the tank often and it is holding up well
> > with no further signs of cracking or leakage.
> >
> > 8802 is some amazing material.
> >
> > Mark Bitterlich
> > N50YK
>
>
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| Subject: | Ernie's had enough |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Ernie
Imagine yourself as part of a group a disparate pilots. Kind of like you
might have at a typical "fly-in" or "hangar party".
As is typical for an eclectic gathering of pilots, conversation will
take many turns. It is the nature of human interaction. From this we
learn of all the angles or aspects of a subject that may be important to
us. Take the fight for the Sport Pilot rule as an example. It was mostly
a political fight but it has increased our freedoms. This "talk" is what
teaches the multitude aspects of our flying experience..... Be it the
mechanical or political. I think we need to address every single subject
that encompasses our flying experiences and our freedom to do so.
The most disturbing thing I can think of is the person that says "SHUT
UP". I want you to talk about the bolt torque on a propeller and that's
all!
Don't get me wrong, I think bolt torque is important. I also think we
shouldn't be limited to that. Our flying goes way beyond that.
You may disagree with me, but rest assured that I will continue to
battle for our freedom to fly AND the furtherance of the mechanical
understanding of the aircraft we fly. One cannot exist without the
other, they are interlocked, inseparable and equally important.
What good does it do to own numerous jet aircraft when some political
decision prohibits you from doing so? What if the regulatory burden
became just too much? If I had my way you wouldn't be having to undergo
the regulations you are as a jet owner. I'm on your side here.
Maybe we all have been told to "SHUT UP" too many times and now people
won't speak up for our rights because they have been beaten down too
many times? When it comes to our freedom to fly don't you think we
should talk about it?
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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| Subject: | Ernie, consider just how important things like this are to us....... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Poberezny Underscores GA's Importance To President Bush
The GOP's rental of two EAA exhibition hangars for a political rally on
Friday, October 15, provided the EAA a rare opportunity to have direct
communications with the President.
"Because the campaign conducted its event on our grounds, I was part of
a greeting party to welcome the President to Oshkosh," said Tom
Poberezny, EAA president.
"Bush spent a brief moment with each of us, and I used the opportunity
to stress the importance of general aviation and EAA's role in it. I
characterized our event as the world's greatest annual aviation
celebration and the spawning ground for major breakthroughs and
innovations in aviation. I had the opportunity to reinforce to the
President EAA's role in the aviation community and pleased to have
received the President's acknowledgement of the importance of our event
to the values, freedoms and progress it represents to the United
States."
Ernie, don't forget it was a liberal democrat who pandered and who
conspired to take some of your freedoms. It's representative of a
liberal democrat mindset that gives short thrift to our freedoms!
Our freedoms are too important to shut up about!
Frank
YAK-52
N9110M
L71
PS Your voice and your vote matters.
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