Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/26/04


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 12:35 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04 (Mark Jefferies)
     2. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: remote switches (WSC/Herb Coussons)
     3. 07:22 AM - "The Project" is for sale (Brian Lloyd)
     4. 07:22 AM - "The Project" is for sale (Brian Lloyd)
     5. 07:46 AM - Over G Horn/Indicator (PSalter@aol.com)
     6. 08:30 AM - Re: 1995 YAK-52 FOR SALE (JGibson912@aol.com)
     7. 09:06 AM - Re: Over G Horn/Indicator (D Zeman)
     8. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04 (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
     9. 02:09 PM - Re: Cylinder head bolts (Jim Bernier)
    10. 03:28 PM - Re: Cylinder head bolts (Ernie)
    11. 04:52 PM - Re: Cylinder head bolts (N13472@aol.com)
    12. 06:03 PM - Re: Cylinder head bolts (Walt Lannon)
    13. 06:07 PM - Re: Cylinder head bolts (A. Dennis Savarese)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:35:54 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
    Subject: RE: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com> Sounds like the perfect answer to a remotely controlled explosion where your terrorist can be miles from the scene. > Does anyone know of a cell phone activated 110 V switch? I would like > to be able to remotely turn on the oil heaters on my YAK this winter. > I usually only fly about once a week during the winter. There is an excellent article in the Oct 2004 issue of Light Plane Maintenance. It covers the various heating systems including why you need them and how they work. The mention a box from Judith Mountain Technologies that functions like a pager and controls your preheat system remotely. See: http://www.goflying.cc/ Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry


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    Time: 07:17:02 AM PST US
    From: "WSC/Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: remote switches
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "WSC/Herb Coussons" <drc@wscare.com> I have looked at the remote switches for preheat. In Green Bay Preheat is needed for at least 6 mos out of the year. I now just leave it plugged in. My electric bill in the hanger went from about 10$ a month to about 18$. Minimal increase. I now have a toasty warm case and oil reservoir, no on off problems, never call ahead - always ready to go. I even leave my J3 plugged in because I notice alot of moisture condensation blown out if I do not. I assume the same with Yak - with the warmed engine there will not be as much moisture if any in the case. Just some thoughts. Herb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com> Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com> > > Sounds like the perfect answer to a remotely controlled explosion where your > terrorist can be miles from the scene. > > > Does anyone know of a cell phone activated 110 V switch? I would like > > to be able to remotely turn on the oil heaters on my YAK this winter. > > I usually only fly about once a week during the winter. > > There is an excellent article in the Oct 2004 issue of Light Plane > Maintenance. It covers the various heating systems including why you need > them and how they work. The mention a box from Judith Mountain Technologies > that functions like a pager and controls your preheat system remotely. > > See: http://www.goflying.cc/ > > Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza > brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 > +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 > > I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . > Antoine de Saint-Exupry > >


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    Time: 07:22:23 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: "The Project" is for sale
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> For someone looking for a first-class CJ6A without having to buy a new one, The Project is for sale. It is a 1967 CJ6A airframe that has been totally disassembled and restored. Any skins that were not up-to-snuff were replaced. All steel fittings were removed, cleaned, inspected, and placed back into service only if they met spec. The entire pneumatic system has been disassembled, cleaned, and inspected with any marginal components replaced. All bearings have been replaced. The gear and actuators have been disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and rebuilt. The airframe is effectively complete and just about ready to fly. The engine is a first-run, overhauled M-14P with a new stainless-steel exhaust manifold. The prop is a 250cm German MT prop with about 60 hours on it. The gill louvers are from a Yak-18T. At this point there is no glass, electrical system, instrumentation, avionics, or paint. (Actually, the interior was painted light grey as it was being reassembled to protect it.) Given the weight and condition I felt that the original electrical system was not worth keeping. I was planning to design and build a new electrical system that will meet the needs of whatever instrumentation/avionics I planned to install. The airplane is ready to be customized to the purchaser's specifications. I would be happy to work with a buyer to have the aircraft completed to their specifications. Contact me off the list if you are interested. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 07:22:27 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: "The Project" is for sale
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> For someone looking for a first-class CJ6A without having to buy a new one, The Project is for sale. It is a 1967 CJ6A airframe that has been totally disassembled and restored. Any skins that were not up-to-snuff were replaced. All steel fittings were removed, cleaned, inspected, and placed back into service only if they met spec. The entire pneumatic system has been disassembled, cleaned, and inspected with any marginal components replaced. All bearings have been replaced. The gear and actuators have been disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and rebuilt. The airframe is effectively complete and just about ready to fly. The engine is a first-run, overhauled M-14P with a new stainless-steel exhaust manifold. The prop is a 250cm German MT prop with about 60 hours on it. The gill louvers are from a Yak-18T. At this point there is no glass, electrical system, instrumentation, avionics, or paint. (Actually, the interior was painted light grey as it was being reassembled to protect it.) Given the weight and condition I felt that the original electrical system was not worth keeping. I was planning to design and build a new electrical system that will meet the needs of whatever instrumentation/avionics I planned to install. The airplane is ready to be customized to the purchaser's specifications. I would be happy to work with a buyer to have the aircraft completed to their specifications. Contact me off the list if you are interested. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 07:46:25 AM PST US
    From: PSalter@aol.com
    Subject: Over G Horn/Indicator
    --> Yak-List message posted by: PSalter@aol.com Yak 52 Expertskis, Last time I flew my Yk52, the g-meter, over g horn came on and would not stop until I turned off the A/H inverter. When I would hit the top of the g-meter panel with my hand, the horn would breifly stop, then start blaring again. The indicator on the g-meter, compass panel was also on. My guess is the over g transmitter in the g-meter has trash in it or has gone bad. Has anyone had this problem and what is the cure? Thanks in advance Phil Salter Cell 409-656-4148


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    Time: 08:30:01 AM PST US
    From: JGibson912@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 1995 YAK-52 FOR SALE
    --> Yak-List message posted by: JGibson912@aol.com 1995 YAK-52 294 HOURS ON AIRFRAME AND ENGINE SINCE NEW (NOT SINCE REBUILT) THE WING HAS THE HEAVY +7-5 G RATING NEW FABRIC IN AUG 2001 CAMO PAINT WITH MARKINGS,TRT 250D TRANSPONDER WITH ALTITUDE ENCODER, KING AK-450ELT, 2 BUTLER PARACHUTES, 5 POINT HOOKER HARNESS, RUSSIAN RADIO AND INTERCOM WIRED FOR US HEADSET, DAVTRON M655 WITH SHADIN FUEL FLOW COMPUTER, WHIRLWIND PROP UPGRADE, NEW ENGINE FUEL HOSES 10-02 AND MANY OTHER NEW HOSES DURING 1-04 ANNUAL, SMOKED GLASS, SPARES KIT,TOOL, KIT, COVERS, TOW BAR ALL LOGS AND MANUALS THIS AIRCRAFT WAS BOUGHT NEW FROM THE FACTORY AND HAS NO DAMAGE HISTORY THIS YAK IS AN EXCELLENT AND STRONG FLYER CALL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INFO 702-461-6929 THIS AIRCRAFT IS LOCATED IN THE LAS VEGAS NEVADA AREA (AIR CONDITIONED HANGER)


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    Time: 09:06:42 AM PST US
    From: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Over G Horn/Indicator
    --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com> Hello Phil, The "over g" sender is in the "g-meter" itself. On the back of the front cockpit g-meter is a cannon plug which ties it into the electrical system. There are also some adjustment screws on the back of the g-meter itself. A quick fix is to swap the front and rear g-meters - the rear one does not connect to the electrical system. Cheers, Zeman __________________________________


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    Time: 01:19:58 PM PST US
    From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
    Subject: RE: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> I can assure you Brian that the terrorists have already thought of such a device and there is no need to worry about YAK members letting out information that they can use.... not that I am pointing fingers by any means. The simple fact though is that IED's have become pretty damn sophisticated and ingenious, and we'll leave that discussion right there. Bottom line is: "They're damn good... but so are we." As to the subject of heaters..... I have heard a lot of argument about leaving them on all the time, and NOT doing so. Pro's and Con's of what it does to the oil, to the condensation, etc., etc. I never have heard an actual debate on it that referenced actual scientific data... just a lot of opinions on both sides. I'd be curious to know what people in general think of a "constant on" indirect oil heater ... pro/con.... that at least has some basis in fact or long term experience. My personal remote heater system started with a pager as a control circuit wired to a relay. I added a 555 timer to that circuit so that it had a 10 hour automatic shutoff control after activation. The pager became too expensive, so I redesigned it to use some of the spare 2 meter ham radio equipment that I had along with a DTMF decoder. Almost reason enough to get your ham radio license! :-) Mark Bitterlich N50YK -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jefferies [mailto:mark.j@yakuk.com] Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 10/25/04 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com> Sounds like the perfect answer to a remotely controlled explosion where your terrorist can be miles from the scene. > Does anyone know of a cell phone activated 110 V switch? I would like > to be able to remotely turn on the oil heaters on my YAK this winter. > I usually only fly about once a week during the winter. There is an excellent article in the Oct 2004 issue of Light Plane Maintenance. It covers the various heating systems including why you need them and how they work. The mention a box from Judith Mountain Technologies that functions like a pager and controls your preheat system remotely. See: http://www.goflying.cc/ Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry


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    Time: 02:09:26 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder head bolts
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> Ernie, I don't know of a means to extract that stud without taking the cylinder off the block. If after you get the jug off and you find enough stud sticking up you can use vise grips to back it out. If not, you can cut a slit in the stud and use a hand held impact hammer. If not, center drill the ugly ?#*% with a small bit. Then get a counter rotating drill bit. Sears has them. They cut counter clockwise. The way they bite may work it out. If not, use the drill again and place a heli-coil in it's place. If you need a stud I can send one to you. Don't use an Easy-out. If it breaks off in the stud you can give the engine to me. Some people have luck using them, but I can't take the chance Good luck. Jim B >>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 10/25/2004 5:18:17 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Fellow CJ'rs I cleaned my engine yesterday trying to track down a leak. I flew it today then inspected the engine. Good news....I found the leak. Bad news.....one of the port rear cylinder base studs broke off. Question: Has anyone been able to remove a busted stud while the cylinder was still in place. If yes, advise is most welcome. Doug, Have you got "Special Wrench Cylinder Nuts" oh very special chineese parts man???? Ernie


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    Time: 03:28:17 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder head bolts
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Thanks Jim, I got the cylinder off and thre stud came out very easily. Now I need to find a piston ring compressor that will fit that size piston and the proper wrench to torque the nuts back on. I was able to get them off with a crows foot, because they were ALL loose except for one. Thanks Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cylinder head bolts > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> > > Ernie, > I don't know of a means to extract that stud without taking the > cylinder off the block. If after you get the jug off and you find enough > stud sticking up you can use vise grips to back it out. If not, you can > cut a slit in the stud and use a hand held impact hammer. If not, center > drill the ugly ?#*% with a small bit. Then get a counter rotating drill > bit. Sears has them. They cut counter clockwise. The way they bite may > work it out. If not, use the drill again and place a heli-coil in it's > place. If you need a stud I can send one to you. Don't use an Easy-out. > If it breaks off in the stud you can give the engine to me. Some people > have luck using them, but I can't take the chance > Good luck. Jim B > > >>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 10/25/2004 5:18:17 PM >>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Fellow CJ'rs > > I cleaned my engine yesterday trying to track down a leak. I flew it > today then inspected the engine. Good news....I found the leak. Bad > news.....one of the port rear cylinder base studs broke off. > > Question: Has anyone been able to remove a busted stud while the > cylinder was still in place. If yes, advise is most welcome. > > Doug, > > Have you got "Special Wrench Cylinder Nuts" oh very special chineese > parts man???? > > Ernie > >


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    Time: 04:52:28 PM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Cylinder head bolts
    --> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com In a message dated 10/26/2004 3:28:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Thanks Jim, > > I got the cylinder off and thre stud came out very easily. Now I need to > find a piston ring compressor that will fit that size piston and the proper > wrench to torque the nuts back on. I was able to get them off with a crows > foot, because they were ALL loose except for one. > > Ernie call Bill Blackwell before you install the new stud/studs He use's a locking compound from, I think loctite ? In anycase it will keep the studs from coming loose. Which is the problem. Tom Elliott CJ-6 N63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2


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    Time: 06:03:07 PM PST US
    From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder head bolts
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com> Hi Ernie; Suggest you replace the two adjacent studs to the broken one. That is standard practice since they have also been subject to cyclic loading and may be cracked and /or stretched. Inspect for cracks and if found continue to replace adjacent studs. Good luck; Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cylinder head bolts > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Thanks Jim, > > I got the cylinder off and thre stud came out very easily. Now I need to > find a piston ring compressor that will fit that size piston and the proper > wrench to torque the nuts back on. I was able to get them off with a crows > foot, because they were ALL loose except for one. > > Thanks > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cylinder head bolts > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org> > > > > Ernie, > > I don't know of a means to extract that stud without taking the > > cylinder off the block. If after you get the jug off and you find enough > > stud sticking up you can use vise grips to back it out. If not, you can > > cut a slit in the stud and use a hand held impact hammer. If not, center > > drill the ugly ?#*% with a small bit. Then get a counter rotating drill > > bit. Sears has them. They cut counter clockwise. The way they bite may > > work it out. If not, use the drill again and place a heli-coil in it's > > place. If you need a stud I can send one to you. Don't use an Easy-out. > > If it breaks off in the stud you can give the engine to me. Some people > > have luck using them, but I can't take the chance > > Good luck. Jim B > > > > >>> ernest.martinez@oracle.com 10/25/2004 5:18:17 PM >>> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > Fellow CJ'rs > > > > I cleaned my engine yesterday trying to track down a leak. I flew it > > today then inspected the engine. Good news....I found the leak. Bad > > news.....one of the port rear cylinder base studs broke off. > > > > Question: Has anyone been able to remove a busted stud while the > > cylinder was still in place. If yes, advise is most welcome. > > > > Doug, > > > > Have you got "Special Wrench Cylinder Nuts" oh very special chineese > > parts man???? > > > > Ernie > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:07:20 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder head bolts
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Isn't that stuff called Silkolene or something like that? Suppose to be great stuff fro just such applications. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: <N13472@aol.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cylinder head bolts > --> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com > > In a message dated 10/26/2004 3:28:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > ernest.martinez@oracle.com writes: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > > > Thanks Jim, > > > > I got the cylinder off and thre stud came out very easily. Now I need to > > find a piston ring compressor that will fit that size piston and the proper > > wrench to torque the nuts back on. I was able to get them off with a crows > > foot, because they were ALL loose except for one. > > > > > > Ernie call Bill Blackwell before you install the new stud/studs He use's a > locking > compound from, I think loctite ? In anycase it will keep the studs from > coming > loose. Which is the problem. > > > Tom Elliott > CJ-6 N63727 > Sandy Valley NV > 3L2 > >




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