Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:41 AM - List Fund Raiser - What Listers Are Saying... (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:50 AM - RPA Newsletter? (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 06:09 AM - Baron 58 (Oliver Neufert)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] (Ernie)
5. 06:35 AM - southeast group (do not arcive) (N552tw@aol.com)
6. 06:35 AM - Re: RPA Newsletter? (Ernie)
7. 06:59 AM - Re: RPA Newsletter? (A. Dennis Savarese)
8. 09:19 AM - English and the avalanche (Richard Goode)
9. 09:52 AM - Re: English and the avalanche (Kevin Pilling)
10. 10:07 AM - Re: English and the avalanche (Ernie)
11. 11:45 AM - Re: English and the avalanche (Steve & Sharon Heugh)
12. 11:57 AM - Re: English and the avalanche (cjpilot710@aol.com)
13. 03:31 PM - Flight suits for sale Do not archive (Walt Murphy)
14. 05:15 PM - 2nd Annual SE RPA Waycross GA FAST Clinic/Fly-In (Shane Golden)
15. 07:36 PM - Re: 2nd Annual SE RPA Waycross GA FAST Clinic/Fly-In (FamilyGage@aol.com)
16. 08:09 PM - Re: flight suits for sale (Walt Murphy)
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| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - What Listers Are Saying... |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
First, I'd like say *thank you* to everyone that has already made a
Contribution to this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you! If you haven't
made your Contribution, won't you show your support for these valuable
services today? Since there's no advertising or other forms of direct
commercialism on the forums to support the Lists, its solely YOUR
GENEROSITY that keeps them running!!
Members have been including some very nice comments along with their
Contributions this year. Please take a minute to read over some of the
thoughts your fellow Listers have expressed regarding the Lists and what
they mean to them. What do the Lists mean to you...?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
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Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
do not archive
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Jim,
Are you working on the next newsletter? I'd like to insert
something about my promotion of the "Redstar Pilots"
formation teams. T.C. suggested handout flyers and a flip
chart for the Team Red booth at ICAS and I'm working on
that.
I can't seem to get in touch with Drew. I need to do that
since I'll be asking for what we got at Jackson + $500
donation to the RPA as our "fee". I'm meeting with an
airshow director this week for a gig up in N.C.
Craig
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Oliver Neufert <oliver.neufert@wanadoo.fr>
I know this has not much to do with Yaks and CJs, but a good friend of mine
is retiring from flying and is selling his Baron 58. The aircraft is in
excellent condition, and always kept hangared. From what I understand both
engines will have to be changed soon, therefore it could be a bargain for
someone willing to take this into account, or someone flying in a country
where TBO is not that important.
The aircraft is based in France and delivery can be arranged worldwide.
There is not a huge demand for this type of aircraft in France (the primary
buyer would be flying schools but these are having a hard time these days)
hence this post.
He is also selling an Alcym100 (JAA approved for IR/ME training) simulator.
As new as far as I can tell.
please reply off list for more info.
Oliver.
Yak-18T HA-YAL
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| Subject: | Re: "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Goto http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Scroll down enter your email address, then find yak-list, select
unsubscribe.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <deegrimm@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!]
> --> Yak-List message posted by: <deegrimm@cox.net>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I tried to get off the Matronics list and no longer get the mass of mail.
I just had an oppertunity to check my mail and it is jammed up with that
mail still. Can you help me?
>
> Regards, Dee (deegrimm@cox.net)
> >
> > From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> > Date: 2004/11/04 Thu PM 12:11:52 EST
> > To: dralle@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!]
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> >
> >
> > Dear Listers,
> >
> > Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?", and this is
certainly
> > a valid question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List
> > support enables. It provides for the very expensive, business-class,
> > high-speed T1 Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum
> > performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It
pays
> > for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the
highest
> > performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine and
> > List Browser. It pays for 16+ years worth of online archive data
available
> > for instant random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent
writing,
> > developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List
> > Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and PhotoShare.
> >
> > But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you
and
> > your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from
> > moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer
> > viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those
statements
> > about these days? I will venture to say - next to none...
> >
> > It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable
aspects
> > of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your
List
> > Contribution. Its the best investment you can make in your Sport - BAR
NONE!
> >
> > List Contribution Web Site:
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> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your support!
> >
> > Matt Dralle
> > Email List Administrator
> >
> >
> > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
> > do not archive
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| Subject: | southeast group (do not arcive) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: N552tw@aol.com
Guys
Robert Lankford and I have been discussing getting a group together this
weekend for some formation flying. LaGrange GA (LGC) seems to be a fairly central
location for a lot of us. LGC has long runways and reasonable gas prices
(credit card pump). For those who can we were thinking of flying in Friday 12 Nov
afternoon and maybe getting a couple of flights up. Saturday we can plan to fly
all day and probably leaving Sat afternoon. Please let me know if your
interested.
Tim Williams
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| Subject: | Re: RPA Newsletter? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Does anyone have an electronic copy of the RPA formation checklist they
could email me. I was flying this weekend at a CJAA event and I really
missed having our list.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: RPA Newsletter?
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>
> Jim,
>
> Are you working on the next newsletter? I'd like to insert
> something about my promotion of the "Redstar Pilots"
> formation teams. T.C. suggested handout flyers and a flip
> chart for the Team Red booth at ICAS and I'm working on
> that.
>
> I can't seem to get in touch with Drew. I need to do that
> since I'll be asking for what we got at Jackson + $500
> donation to the RPA as our "fee". I'm meeting with an
> airshow director this week for a gig up in N.C.
>
> Craig
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPA Newsletter? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
I have it Ernie and will email it along with the Formation Briefing Guide
off-list.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: RPA Newsletter?
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> Does anyone have an electronic copy of the RPA formation checklist they
> could email me. I was flying this weekend at a CJAA event and I really
> missed having our list.
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cpayne@joimail.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: RPA Newsletter?
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com"
<cpayne@joimail.com>
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Are you working on the next newsletter? I'd like to insert
> > something about my promotion of the "Redstar Pilots"
> > formation teams. T.C. suggested handout flyers and a flip
> > chart for the Team Red booth at ICAS and I'm working on
> > that.
> >
> > I can't seem to get in touch with Drew. I need to do that
> > since I'll be asking for what we got at Jackson + $500
> > donation to the RPA as our "fee". I'm meeting with an
> > airshow director this week for a gig up in N.C.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | English and the avalanche |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Yak List
English and the avalanche
I am pleased that Gus Frazer is taking it upon himself to teach Americans English.
Hopefully he can convince them that this will be a worthwhile exercise.
However the avalanche is actually a Porteous Loop, after Ranald Porteous who demonstrated
it in an Auster J5F Aiglet (Little Eagle). It is a heavier, four-seat,
somewhat underpowered Piper Cub.
Yours
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Re: English and the avalanche |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
Hey Gus...in the same vein as Richards post.
Could you help tell our US friends that there is no such word in the English
Language as "gotten".
Substitute "has got" and we return to Queens English and a far more elegant
syntax.
It's a good natured jibe.
kp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Subject: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
>
> Yak List
>
>
> English and the avalanche
>
>
> I am pleased that Gus Frazer is taking it upon himself to teach Americans
English. Hopefully he can convince them that this will be a worthwhile
exercise.
>
>
> However the avalanche is actually a Porteous Loop, after Ranald Porteous
who demonstrated it in an Auster J5F Aiglet (Little Eagle). It is a
heavier, four-seat, somewhat underpowered Piper Cub.
>
>
> Yours
>
>
> Richard Goode
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Herefordshire
> HR5 3LW
> United Kingdom
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
> dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: English and the avalanche |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
We are two people seperated by a common language. Lets keep it that way.
When you Brits learn to say French derived words like "garage" and
"Fuselage" properly, then we Americans might learn to talk good , since it
aint no good to have gotten a English lesson from ya, if you aint
pronunciatin yer words right like. :)
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
>
> Hey Gus...in the same vein as Richards post.
> Could you help tell our US friends that there is no such word in the
English
> Language as "gotten".
> Substitute "has got" and we return to Queens English and a far more
elegant
> syntax.
>
> It's a good natured jibe.
>
> kp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> To: "YAK USA LIST" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
> >
> >
> > Yak List
> >
> >
> > English and the avalanche
> >
> >
> > I am pleased that Gus Frazer is taking it upon himself to teach
Americans
> English. Hopefully he can convince them that this will be a worthwhile
> exercise.
> >
> >
> > However the avalanche is actually a Porteous Loop, after Ranald Porteous
> who demonstrated it in an Auster J5F Aiglet (Little Eagle). It is a
> heavier, four-seat, somewhat underpowered Piper Cub.
> >
> >
> > Yours
> >
> >
> > Richard Goode
> >
> > Richard Goode Aerobatics
> > Rhodds Farm
> > Lyonshall
> > Herefordshire
> > HR5 3LW
> > United Kingdom
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> > www.russianaeros.com
> >
> >
> > dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: English and the avalanche |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve & Sharon Heugh" <rastus@mweb.co.za>
Go Ernie!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> We are two people seperated by a common language. Lets keep it that way.
> When you Brits learn to say French derived words like "garage" and
> "Fuselage" properly, then we Americans might learn to talk good , since it
> aint no good to have gotten a English lesson from ya, if you aint
> pronunciatin yer words right like. :)
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kevin Pilling" <pilling.k@btconnect.com>
>>
>> Hey Gus...in the same vein as Richards post.
>> Could you help tell our US friends that there is no such word in the
> English
>> Language as "gotten".
>> Substitute "has got" and we return to Queens English and a far more
> elegant
>> syntax.
>>
>> It's a good natured jibe.
>>
>> kp
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>> To: "YAK USA LIST" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: English and the avalanche
>>
>>
>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"
>> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Yak List
>> >
>> >
>> > English and the avalanche
>> >
>> >
>> > I am pleased that Gus Frazer is taking it upon himself to teach
> Americans
>> English. Hopefully he can convince them that this will be a worthwhile
>> exercise.
>> >
>> >
>> > However the avalanche is actually a Porteous Loop, after Ranald
>> > Porteous
>> who demonstrated it in an Auster J5F Aiglet (Little Eagle). It is a
>> heavier, four-seat, somewhat underpowered Piper Cub.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yours
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard Goode
>> >
>> > Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> > Rhodds Farm
>> > Lyonshall
>> > Herefordshire
>> > HR5 3LW
>> > United Kingdom
>> >
>> > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>> > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>> > www.russianaeros.com
>> >
>> >
>> > dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com
>> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: English and the avalanche |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Ahh language. FACT (At least I think it is.) : Did you know the word
"hangar" (where we store our airplanes) comes from and is the French word meaning
'cow shed.' It seem that Ble'riot stored his aeroplane in a 'hangar' while
preparing for the first English Channel crossing. I guess the newspapers used
the
word as a place to work on aeroplanes and it has stuck since.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve
neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"The reason older men are like fine wine: when young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
"Kill them all. Let God sort them out"
Crusaders 900 AD
"With my shield, or on it."
Trojan Warriors, BC
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| Subject: | Flight suits for sale Do not archive |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
For Sale : a NEW CWU-27/P, Tan/Desert Pattern, Nomex flight suit,
size: 46 long.
It is constructed of 100% Nomex (92% Meta-Aramid, 5% Para-Aramid, 3%
Conductive Material).
This Flight suit is the current US aviator issue. This is a genuine
military specifications (MILSPEC) flight suit. No fraying, stains
or tears. It has Velcro strip sawn over the left breast pocket
(For the Nametag). All zippers and velcro closures are in perfect
working order.
This is the information on the tag:
SIZE: 46L
8415-01-452-4940
COVERALLS, FLYERS, SUMMER
FIRE RESISTANT CWU-27/P
92% Meta-Aramid, 5% Para-Aramid, 3% Conductive Material DJ Manufacturing
Corp.
Price is $65 + 10 shipping ( in the lower 48 )
Also have 1 green flight suit in good used condition , same style,
material , size and specification
for $45 + $10 shipping or both suits for $100 + shipping.( in the lower
48 )
please contact me off list if interested in either or both.
Thanks,
Walt
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| Subject: | 2nd Annual SE RPA Waycross GA FAST Clinic/Fly-In |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
Ok folks, it looks like we're going to have a great turn-out for Waycross.
So far I have 24 total aircraft with 6-7 students and a few people needing
check rides (me included).
I have a request for an aerobatic box for Fri/Sat, I'll be talking to the
FBO to set this up this week. I'm looking for suggestions/help in setting
up other activities. (Mass Form, Tactical Form, Acro, Bomb drops, etc.)
Y'all let me know what you want.
Here's the sign-up list so far. If I've left anyone off let me know.
Shane Golden Yak-52
Jay Land CJ-6/L-?
Jim Goolsbly CJ-6
Jeff Linebaugh CJ-6
Mike Filucci CJ-6
Dennis Savarese Yak-52
Roger Kemp Yak-52
Robert Langford Yak-52
Bill Walker Yak-52
Craig Payne CJ-6
Jim Plumlee CJ-6
Ken Terry T-34
Ray Gage Yak-52
Rich Hess CJ-6G
Ernie Martinez CJ-6
Cullen Underwood ?
Mike Roehr Yak-52
Ray Reeves Yak-52
Zach McNeil L-29
Terry Calloway CJ-6
Rodger Modglin Yak-52
Jose Rivera
Jan Keoki S2A
Dave Strawn CJ-6
Allan Cockrell? Yak-52
If you have any suggestions, questions or comments call me at 803-479-0449
or 803-532-9063.
Here's the info again:
Dates: 13 - 16 Jan 2005
Location: Waycross, GA KAYS FBO Manager: 912-337-9026
Hotel: Days Inn 912-285-4700
Shane Golden
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| Subject: | Re: 2nd Annual SE RPA Waycross GA FAST Clinic/Fly-In |
--> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com
Shane,
I have a motel reservation and look for to the clinic.
Ray Gage
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| Subject: | RE: flight suits for sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
The flight suits are sold , thanks for your interest,
Walt
CJ6-A
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