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1. 02:41 AM - Re: CJ6-what? and other musings (Brian Lloyd)
2. 04:34 AM - Re: CJ6-what? and other musings (Gus Fraser)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: leaking emergency tank (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 06:56 AM - Re: CJ6-what? and other musings (Jim Bernier)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: CJ 6 starter button (Walt Murphy)
6. 10:41 AM - Re: CJ 6 starter button (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
7. 11:20 AM - Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
8. 11:43 AM - Re: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Daniel Fortin)
9. 01:14 PM - 2nd Annual Waycross GA Fly-In Poll (Shane Golden)
10. 01:50 PM - Re: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Rick Basiliere)
11. 02:01 PM - Re: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Rick Basiliere)
12. 02:45 PM - main lnd gear (Terry)
13. 03:30 PM - Re: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Gus Fraser)
14. 03:31 PM - Re: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi (Gus Fraser)
15. 03:43 PM - Re: 2nd Annual Waycross GA Fly-In Poll (A. Dennis Savarese)
16. 03:51 PM - Re: main lnd gear (cjpilot710@aol.com)
17. 06:24 PM - Re: main lnd gear (Walt Lannon)
18. 06:53 PM - Custom Machining and CAD Program (Frank Haertlein)
19. 07:09 PM - Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program (Walt Lannon)
20. 07:10 PM - Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program (Bill VonDane)
21. 07:23 PM - Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program (Gus Fraser)
22. 07:26 PM - Hanger space in Florida (Gus Fraser)
23. 07:45 PM - Re: main lnd gear (Walt Lannon)
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6-what? and other musings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Nov 24, 2004, at 12:32 AM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> >In a message dated 11/23/2004 11:25:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >l39parts@hotmail.com writes:
> >If you think that's depressing, look at a chart of dollar vs euro for
> the
> >last two years. In Feb 2002 you could buy a Euro for 88 cents
> American. Now
> >it's 1.30 american.
> Hay When I was based in West Germany a litter of beer was 1 dm = $.25
> Of
> course that was a million years ago. :]
> "Pappy"
And when I had my hot-rod in high school I was paying $0.30/gallon for
premium gas. A couple of years back I was paying $0.99/gal for regular
gasoline I was burning in my CJ6A. Now I wish I could run my car on
Rum. It is almost cheaper that gasoline now.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | CJ6-what? and other musings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Hiccc, Is gonna vote for that tooooo, hiccc
Gus
> Now I wish I could run my car on
>Rum. It is almost cheaper that gasoline now.
>
>Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
>brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
>+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
>
>I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: leaking emergency tank |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Hopefully you are using a spray bottle of soapy water to check for leaks.
On the Yak 52 or 52TW just inside the external air fill port is a check
valve. If this check valve is leaking you will have air from the emergency
tank leaking out of the external air fill port. Spray soapy water on the
external air fill port and see if it is bubbling. If it is, then the check
valve is leaking. The most difficult part is getting to the check valve.
If you trace the pneumatic line from the external air fill port, you will
come to a T fitting. One side of the T fitting goes to the firewall. The
other side is connected to the check valve which goes to the emergency tank.
Next, spray the soapy water directly on the T fitting on the emergency tank
and watch it closely for bubbling. Trace the pneumatic line from the T
fitting back toward the external air fill port. I'm not certain, but there
may be a B nut joint joining two sections of tubing. If there is, spray it
as well. Spray the fittings on the check valve as well.
Going back to the T fitting on the emergency tank, trace the opposite side
pneumatic line from the tank back toward the emergency gear extension valves
on the right side consoles. Be sure to spray all fittings with soapy water
to check for leaks.
Good luck,
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig" <rupilot@nvbell.net>
Subject: Yak-List: leaking emergency tank
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "craig" <rupilot@nvbell.net>
>
> I have a leak in my emergency tank, The tank drains down in about 6
> hours.
> The main tank stays up. I though I read here on the list to check the
check
> valve.
> Where is this check valve at. or any other thoughts where this leak can
be.
> I have
> check most of the plumbing but have found nothing. This is on a Yak 52tw.
> Thanks for any sugestions.
> Craig
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6-what? and other musings |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Doug,
Welcome back, safe and sound. Well at least safe.
The question is: Is there any good word on the air filter/ spark
arrester?
Almost finished with the plane. I've attached a photo. You have to
respect my wife, she puts up with me.
Jim
>>> rvfltd@televar.com 11/23/2004 8:39:46 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Just home from China, have been up since 3AM because I am jet lagged to
the
max so I am catching up on my emails and just could not resist
responding to
the posting about CJ6 models numbers:
Heck guys, you want a CJ6-X or perhaps a CJ6-Y or Z, or the very
latest
CJ6-X-99PDQ? no problem, they will call them anything you want, just
send
your Yankee dollars and tell me how you want the bill of sale to read.
Guys, there is no airframe differences in my brand new CJ6, and the
earlier
models. My B of S from the factory and CAAC reads Nanchang CJ6A. Fan
and
CATIC are looking to stroke the ego's of the "rich Americans" who (in
their
minds) all want to be one up on their buddies by owning the very
latest
models. The "new" G is not something new and improved unless you feel
that
a CJ6A which they have installed a small factory baggage compartment in
is
new and improved. One last point, there are not (to my knowledge) any
CJ6's
especially "made for export to the States". The Nanchang factory is
not a
"factory" like you might expect wherein sheet metal and engines come in
one
end and finished aircraft come out the other. All CJ's are only
assembled
at the factory from airframe parts made at various locations in China,
engines in one factory, wings in another, airframes is still another.
The
only thing that makes the new aircraft a bit different from the rest is
that
recently the factory has started issuing different serial numbers to
new or
remaned aircraft coming out of China, your serial number might be say
1132020 (7 digits), meaning that that aircraft is from batch number 11,
was
assembled in factory number 320 (which is the Nanchang factory), and
was the
20th aircraft in batch number 11. My factory new CJ has a serial
number
consisting of 4 digits, 64-33, Hal Morley's CJ also has a 4 digit
serial
number, I was surprised to find however that Rich Hess's "Mongoose" has
a
totally different type of serial number (H2S001), the FAA records show
HONGDO AVIA INDUSTRY CO LTD as the manufacturer not the Nanchang
Aircraft
Co., and it is listed as a CJ6, not an A, or G but a plain old CJ6,
which as
we all know was a 260 hp aircraft---go figure. The 6 retired aircraft
which
we are having remanufactured in China have also been issued the new 4
digit
type of serial number. What the thinking is behind these changes, or
what
the new numbers actually mean I do not know.
One last observation on a totally different topic:
While in China the English version of the China Daily News and the
Wall
street Journal were both reporting lines of people at banks in both
Beijing
and Hong Kong, waiting to trade their US $ for Euros and Yuan. This is
not
a good indicator guys. The US dollar has been the currency of choice
for
years and they (Chinese) have been eager to accept greenbacks in
payment
because they could take them to the black market and receive a 20%
increase
when changed to Yuan, but now they are feeling so uneasy about the
current
down turn in our economic situation that they are dumping the dollar
for the
Euro and Yuan. Perhaps they feel that China will finally revalue the
Yuan
at "normal rates" rather than the artificial low rate which it has in
the
past. If the dollar continues to slide and they do revalue the Yuan we
can
all expect aircraft and parts cost to go up markedly. My last 2
purchases
from Russia were made in Euros as the vendor would not accept US
dollars.
One deal was "revalued" just before shipping because the dollar had
markedly
moved, cutting into the vendors profit. Make of it what you will, but
I for
one don't like the direction all this seems to be heading.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Thunderbolt
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yakkes-List
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Thunderbolt" <thunderbolt@home.nl>
Helleu Jeff,
Thanx for your quick response, both on mail and on the Yak-list.
And for explaining the CJ-alfabet ;-)
Nice looking site with exactly the info I was looking for and a great
looking CJ!
Is it ok for us to use pictures from the site?
Met vriendelijke groet, with kind regards, mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen,
Salutations amicales, Srdacan pozdrav, greetz,
Alex Smit
www.yakkes.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Linebaugh
To: thunderbolt@home.nl ; yak-list@matronics. com
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yakkes-List
Hello Alex!
Thanks for your note!
Check out our website...it explains all the history we know of
our
airplane.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jefflinebaugh
The CJ-6 came/comes from the factory in at least 3 versions:
CJ-6: airframe with HS-6 engine (260 HP)
CJ-6A: same airframe with HS-6A engine (285 HP)
CJ-6G: new airframes sold for export (usually without engine to
the
U.S.)
Numerous CJs have been converted to the Russian M-14P engine
(360
HP) and have been known coloquially as CJ-6P's. There are also
modifications available to increase range with additional fuel. You
can add
the ER monniker to these aircraft.... Then there are a few with
"glass
cockpits" and autopilots! ....so add a G and an A..... you end up
with a
CJ-6PERGA... I can hear it now...guys at the next event bragging on
there
"PERGA'd" Changs.
Its nice to know we have Yak friends in the Netherlands! Fly
safe!
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
CJ-6P N621CJ
Memphis, TN
-------Original Message-------
From: Thunderbolt
Date: 11/21/04 05:27:23
To: jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
Subject: Yakkes-List
Helleu Yakflyer,
My name is Alex Smit and I live in the Netherlands. Recently I
joint
the Yakkes Foudation. We fly four Yak-52's. In the wintertime we try to
kill
time by creating the Yakkes-list. The Yakkes-list has to become a list
of
all Yak-radials worldwide. Ofcourse we're starting off with Yak-52 but
it
has to grow to a list of all types of Yak-radials.
On the Yak-list I saw you fly CJ-6P N621CJ.
Could you help me with some more info on the plane? Why is it
a
CJ-6P? Info like constructionnumber and history of the plane, owner,
previous owners and maybe a good picture to add to the data?
And maybe you have info on more Yaks or their owners.
I will add all this info to the Yakkes-list that's not yet
online.
But when it is it will be added to www.yakkes.com.
In advance I thank you very much.
Greetz, Alex Smit
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| Subject: | Re: CJ 6 starter button |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
I would like to thank you all for giving me such a complete answer to
my air start problem .
This is a great example of the value of this forum .
Walt Murphy
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| Subject: | CJ 6 starter button |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
I'll take the "C" with pleasure.
Take care,
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ 6 starter button
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
For whatever reason, that part of the sentence was deleted from my email.
You are 100% correct with your hunch. No wager necessary. It IS the air
start distributor.
Based on your response, I take it you are now willing to take an "F" for
your homework assignment. However, because you apparently a very honest
individual (and very wise I might add), I will graciously move your grade up
to a "C". Thus when you take home your report card you won't be grounded
(literally) for getting an F on this homework assignment. -)
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ 6 starter button
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> Thank you Dennis (and Doug and Jim [Pappy!] and David!). I am gratified
> that such experts found anything I wrote worth reading.
>
> Dennis, you asked me to disassemble and describe the operating mechanism,
> and correct timing procedures for something pneumatic on the M-14P. You
> neglected to say exactly what, but based on a hunch, I'll wager money that
> you were talking about the M-14P air start distributor itself.
>
> My answer to that challenge Sir (if I happen to be correct) is simply
this:
> "Some things God intended man to be able to take apart and repair, and
> others he did not". The air start distributor was obviously God's first
> attempt at a Rubik's Cube.
>
> Oddly enough, I happen to have had some experience with this invention of
> the Devil. First, I know that if anyone ever takes it apart and puts it
> back together and installs it...and the engine happens to rotate perfectly
> on the first try... it is probably rotating backwards.
>
> I watched a very experienced Russian mechanic take this thing apart....
and
> I also stood by him for the next 36 hours as he attempted to get the
engine
> to rotate properly (in the right direction) when the starter was actuated.
> During that time I learned that this device not only ports air to each
> cylinder in the correct order... it ALSO sends a PURGE charge through the
> bottom three cylinders during the exhaust cycle in order to help blow out
> any OIL in the cylinders that happen to remain in there. And yes... it IS
> possible to get everything to rotate in the proper direction, but have it
> also scavenging the WRONG cylinders.
>
> No Dennis... I'll stick with the starter valve. It has very few moving
> parts, and no itsy-bitsy-tiny-little gears that only have to be out ONE
> TOOTH to mess the whole thing up.
>
> My advice to anyone with an oil leak on the M-14 Air Start Distributor
> gasket is simply this: Clean it up very very well, and run a bead of 8802
> around the thing to seal it. Or..if you like to live extremely
dangerously,
> lift it up just the smallest tiny amount and squeeze some sealant under
the
> edge and hope it stops the leak. If you remove it all the way.... you
> probably won't be flying again for awhile (at least not in THAT airplane).
>
>
> Dennis, if you really know how to remove and reinstall that thing
> properly... on the first try.... you are a Wizard of the First Order and I
> bow at your mighty feet!
>
> R/S,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:adsavar@gte.net]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ 6 starter button
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Very well diagnosed and an excellent explanation. You get an "A+" on the
> airstart solenoid. Now for your next homework assignment, please
> disassemble and describe the operating mechanism, correct timing
procedures
> when installed on an M14P, pitfalls if any during reassembly and
> installation and finally, have this all completed for the Wednesday
> Pneumatic Systems class. -)
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bitterlich GS11 Mark G" <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ 6 starter button
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
> >
> > Everyone seems to have put their 2 cents in about this darn valve, so I
> > thought I would be safe adding my experiences too.
> >
> > I have the Russian version (YAK-50) which is also common to the YAK-52.
I
> > have studied this valve many times, and the first thing I noticed is
that
> if
> > you take it out of the aircraft (easy on the YAK-50... but NOT quite as
> easy
> > on the 52), and you apply 28 VDC to the thing....nothing seems to
happen.
> I
> > was expecting some big WHACK from a very powerful solenoid needed to
lift
> a
> > pin against 750 psi or so. Nothing. I spent the next several hours
> looking
> > at this thing and while I am not willing to BET on it... my study seemed
> to
> > show that the original engineering design actually USES air pressure to
> help
> > open the valve. The solenoid itself is rather small. The return spring
> for
> > this solenoid is very light too...again, given the pressures involved.
It
> > appears that the valve is in fact a two stage design where the small
> > solenoid opens a tiny needle valve which in turn ports pressure to move
a
> > much LARGER valve and this is what ends up actually porting the air down
> to
> > the starter distributor on the engine. Air escaping from the two stage
> > relief port (before it closes and sends air to open the MAIN port) is
what
> > causes that loud POP you hear when first hitting your starter button.
> >
> > The point is that a tiny amount of dirt in this thing will cause it to
> > become massively intermittent. I made a habit of removing the intake
air
> > line and spraying WD-40 down it's throat once a year during the
> Conditional,
> > and this ended all my problems until about 4 years later when it finally
> > just got so sporadic that I knew I had to either really tear it down to
> > parade rest, or ... put in a new one. Carl Hays had a new one... but it
> was
> > a slightly different model (I have the actual part numbers somewhere).
> The
> > "slightly different model" does NOT have the external lever that allows
> you
> > to MANUALLY actuate the valve itself. I bought it anyway on a hunch
that
> > turned out to be correct.
> >
> > You can not take just the "lever" out of an old valve and install it
into
> > the different kind of valve with NO lever.
> >
> > But....... you can unscrew the new valve..... taking it apart right
above
> > where the lever would usually go, and then screw in the BOTTOM half off
> the
> > OLD valve (the one WITH the lever) and poof... you have a new valve with
> the
> > old housing that has the manual start lever.
> >
> > What about the solenoid and pin? They also come right out of the new
> > housing that you just screwed off, and slide right down into the
original
> > housing that has the manual start lever. (The solenoid has no
polarity...
> > don't worry about where the electrical pins for it happen to end up.)
> So...
> > you can basically take everything needed from a new valve without the
> start
> > lever and "rebuild" you old valve (per se) to make it 100%.
> >
> > The manual lever is a bit tricky to re-install... so be VERY VERY
careful
> to
> > note EXACTLY how it goes in there when you take it apart... and be aware
> > that the lever itself is held in with a small pin that will fall out and
> get
> > lost if you are careless taking the whole mess apart.
> >
> > For what it is worth.... I have started my engine with only 14 volts on
> that
> > valve when it is in "brand new" condition. Anyone who has it fail to
> > operate at 20 volts, but work ok at 24 volts has... in my humble
> opinion....
> > a valve that is very close to failing at ANY voltage. The main solenoid
> > controlled pin will develop a "bevel" on it from many many reseats into
> the
> > valve. This bevel can cause a slight stick that requires every last
ounce
> of
> > energy from the actual solenoid to overcome. Taking the valve apart
and
> > using fine grit sandpaper to clean off this "burr/bevel" solves this
> > problem.
> >
> > This valve is an item that any long term YAK-50 or 52 owner would be
wise
> to
> > keep a spare of on-hand.
> >
> > R/S,
> >
> > Mark Bitterlich
> > N50YK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug Sapp [mailto:rvfltd@televar.com]
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: CJ 6 starter button
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > The CJ5 /yak 18 uses the same start solenoid as the CJ6, I had the same
> > problem as you have described. First I played with the start timing
(got
> a
> > real education, but no good results), next I cleaned and lubed the
bugger,
> > even talked nice to the dirty SOB, Last effort was to replace all the
> > rubber parts and springs in it (now I've got you I thought). But it
still
> > would leave me stranded when ever it took a mind to not want to
function,
> > this was normally at air shows where everyone was watching, and waiting
to
> > hear the mighty roar of the 5 cly (slightly bigger than a small John
Deer
> > tractor) radial engine. After I had embarrassed myself 4 or 5 times I
> > finally gave up and did what any good parts seller would do......went to
> the
> > shelf and got a brand new shiny start solenoid and put it on and bingo
no
> > further problems in over 200 hours.
> >
> > Like in any solenoid there are windings inside, I am betting that there
is
> a
> > bit of corrosion in there that is causing just enough resistance that
> unless
> > everything is just right (a full 24+ volts) it will not actuate the
valve.
> > Just a guess on my part.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge base,
I thought it worth at least asking for.
Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
Please take your choice:
mgb@jcs.mil
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Its Russian, the prop turns the correct way, all is forgotten.
>From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: "'yak-list@matronics.com'" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:27:09 -0500
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
><BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
>
>Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
>asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
>
>There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge
>base,
>I thought it worth at least asking for.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
>
>Mark Bitterlich
>N50YK
>Please take your choice:
>mgb@jcs.mil
>mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
>bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
>
>
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| Subject: | 2nd Annual Waycross GA Fly-In Poll |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
Things are coming together quickly for the Waycross fly-in. We're trying to
get a good idea of who wants to do what. Please review the enclosed list
and let me know what you are most interested in.
1) FAST Proficiency training flights
2) MASS Formation Practice (airshow type?)
3) Tactical/Advanced Formation Training
4) Aerobatics and Unusual Attitude Training and use of the aerobatic box
5) Newbie FAST Training
6) Derby practice
We have app. 5 newbie formation pilots that will require backseaters for a
while, this activity will be separated from the rest for a day or two.
Shane
Message 10
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
You might check with Beegles' Aircraft in Greeley, CO they had the wreck of
a 26 a couple years ago. 970-353-9200 The insurance companies might know,
like Falcon Agency, they do IAC stuff. 800-880-4545. Hope this helps.
Rick B
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Its Russian, the prop turns the correct way, all is forgotten.
>From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: "'yak-list@matronics.com'" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:27:09 -0500
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
><BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
>
>Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
>asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
>
>There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge
>base,
>I thought it worth at least asking for.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
>
>Mark Bitterlich
>N50YK
>Please take your choice:
>mgb@jcs.mil
>mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
>bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
>
>
Message 11
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
Opps...Falcon Insurance for Sukhoi salvage 866-620-4422 or
www.falconinsurance.com Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich GS11
Mark G
Subject: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge base,
I thought it worth at least asking for.
Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
Please take your choice:
mgb@jcs.mil
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
Message 12
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Hi,
In the very near future I need to pull the main gear on my
CJ to change out the bushings. While going over the procedure I noticed that the
book shows a pin, with a nut
on it, that holds the pivot shaft to the fuselage bracket.
My plane (1965) has a pin in each side at this position with no nut.
Question:
Is this normal and how do you remove this pin.
Any advice on this is greatly appreciated.
Terry Lewis
Message 13
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Do you have a picture of them, are they the same as sp I3 ?
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Basiliere
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
Opps...Falcon Insurance for Sukhoi salvage 866-620-4422 or
www.falconinsurance.com Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bitterlich GS11
Mark G
Subject: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge base,
I thought it worth at least asking for.
Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
Please take your choice:
mgb@jcs.mil
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
Message 14
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| Subject: | Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Did you try snaproll ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Basiliere
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
You might check with Beegles' Aircraft in Greeley, CO they had the wreck of
a 26 a couple years ago. 970-353-9200 The insurance companies might know,
like Falcon Agency, they do IAC stuff. 800-880-4545. Hope this helps.
Rick B
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Its Russian, the prop turns the correct way, all is forgotten.
>From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: "'yak-list@matronics.com'" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Gas Cap needed for Sukhoi
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:27:09 -0500
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
><BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
>
>Yep.... I know this is the "Yak List" but if everyone will forgive me for
>asking, I need a gas cap for a Sukhoi 26.
>
>There are so many people on this list that span such a broad knowledge
>base,
>I thought it worth at least asking for.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help in finding one.
>
>Mark Bitterlich
>N50YK
>Please take your choice:
>mgb@jcs.mil
>mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
>bitterlichmg@cherrypoint.usmc.mil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 2nd Annual Waycross GA Fly-In Poll |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Hi Shane,
Since I do not have my FAST card, I'm not sure whether I will need the
"newbie training" or not. I have flown many times with Rich Hess and Jeff
Linebaugh in formations. I will ask Jeff Linebaugh and Rich Hess if they
think I should go through the ground school etc. Assuming I do not have to
attend the newbie training, I'd like to sign up for FAST proficiency
training flights, MASS formation practice, Unusual attitude training (always
good to do this). I of course, would like to get a check ride while I'm
there.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Golden" <scgsmg@direcway.com>
Subject: Yak-List: 2nd Annual Waycross GA Fly-In Poll
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
>
> Things are coming together quickly for the Waycross fly-in. We're trying
to
> get a good idea of who wants to do what. Please review the enclosed list
> and let me know what you are most interested in.
>
>
> 1) FAST Proficiency training flights
>
> 2) MASS Formation Practice (airshow type?)
>
> 3) Tactical/Advanced Formation Training
>
> 4) Aerobatics and Unusual Attitude Training and use of the aerobatic box
>
> 5) Newbie FAST Training
>
> 6) Derby practice
>
>
> We have app. 5 newbie formation pilots that will require backseaters for a
> while, this activity will be separated from the rest for a day or two.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: main lnd gear |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 11/24/2004 5:45:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
talew@comcast.net writes:
Hi,
In the very near future I need to pull the main gear on my
CJ to change out the bushings. While going over the procedure I noticed that
the book shows a pin, with a nut
on it, that holds the pivot shaft to the fuselage bracket.
My plane (1965) has a pin in each side at this position with no nut.
Question:
Is this normal and how do you remove this pin.
Any advice on this is greatly appreciated.
Terry Lewis
Terry,
Been there done that. My landing gear had a taper pin (just one) vertical
though the pivot shaft. The nut that was holding the taper pin was at the
bottom. With the airplane on jacks, I had to push the landing gear in ward to
get
at the nut on the bottom of the taper pin. Once the taper pin is out, you can
drive the pivot shaft out using the access holes fore and aft of the gear. It
takes about an hour to remove one landing gear. Start with the tire. ;)
Note too, that the new bushings inside diameter is to small for the pivot
shaft. You can either cut down the pivot shaft to fit the bushings or hone out
the bushings to fit the shaft. I honed out the bushings, reason: the shaft
surface has been cased harden for wear, cutting it down to fit the bushings kills
that protection, plus, the bushing is suppose to take the wear, not the pivot
shaft. WHY the Chinese did this I don't know, but Doug Sapp was good enough
to warn me in time about it.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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| Subject: | Re: main lnd gear |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Terry;
That is a taper pin driven in from the bottom with a 0.8 X 5mm threaded end
and nut on top to retain it. Most of the CJ's have this removed and the
pivot pin drilled through for a through bolt to hold the pin in place.
The reason for the mod is to keep the rear bushing from being forced out by
grease gun pressure and at the same time retain the pivot pin.
I prefer the taper pin for pivot pin retention since it
prevents both axial and rotational movement. To retain the rear bushing I
drill & tap the aft end of the pin (for a 3/8" AN bolt if I remember
correctly) and install a large washer to cover the bushing.
If you wish to go that route (which could be easier than drilling the pin
for a through bolt) you need to remove the taper pin without damaging the
thread. You will find a hole in the wing upper surface lining up with the
taper pin.
Get a piece of 5/16" or 3/8" bar stock, drill and tap one end 0.8X5mm,
remove the nut & spacer, screw on the bar stock and give it a whack. Should
loosen the pin with no damage.
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: main lnd gear
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
>
> Hi,
> In the very near future I need to pull the main gear on my
> CJ to change out the bushings. While going over the procedure I noticed
that the book shows a pin, with a nut
> on it, that holds the pivot shaft to the fuselage bracket.
> My plane (1965) has a pin in each side at this position with no nut.
> Question:
> Is this normal and how do you remove this pin.
> Any advice on this is greatly appreciated.
> Terry Lewis
>
>
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| Subject: | Custom Machining and CAD Program |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Some time ago someone posted a link to a site that does custom machining
per your design using a downloadable CAD program they supply. I've had a
computer crash since that link was added to my favorites so I don't have
it anymore. Would someone please forward that link to the list again?
Thanks in advance!
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
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| Subject: | Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
That would be "emachineshop.com"
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Custom Machining and CAD Program
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Yaksters;
> Some time ago someone posted a link to a site that does custom machining
> per your design using a downloadable CAD program they supply. I've had a
> computer crash since that link was added to my favorites so I don't have
> it anymore. Would someone please forward that link to the list again?
> Thanks in advance!
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Frank... Was it eMachineShop?
http://www.emachineshop.com/
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Custom Machining and CAD Program
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yaksters;
Some time ago someone posted a link to a site that does custom machining
per your design using a downloadable CAD program they supply. I've had a
computer crash since that link was added to my favorites so I don't have
it anymore. Would someone please forward that link to the list again?
Thanks in advance!
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
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| Subject: | Re: Custom Machining and CAD Program |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Just as a follow up,
Since I initially posted the emachines link I have had two non aircraft
related parts made and the are outstanding in quality.
If you draw it, it will come :)
Gus
...... Original Message .......
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:10:15 -0700 "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>Frank... Was it eMachineShop?
>
>http://www.emachineshop.com/
>
>-Bill
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Custom Machining and CAD Program
>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
><yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
>Yaksters;
>Some time ago someone posted a link to a site that does custom machining
>per your design using a downloadable CAD program they supply. I've had a
>computer crash since that link was added to my favorites so I don't have
>it anymore. Would someone please forward that link to the list again?
>Thanks in advance!
>Frank
>N9110M
>YAK-52
>
>
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| Subject: | Hanger space in Florida |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Does anyone know of some winter hanger space in Florida ? A fellow pilot in
my local IAC chapter is looking for a winter home for his Pitts.
Thanks in advance
Gus
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| Subject: | Re: main lnd gear |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: main lnd gear
> Note too, that the new bushings inside diameter is to small for the pivot
> shaft. You can either cut down the pivot shaft to fit the bushings or
hone out
> the bushings to fit the shaft. I honed out the bushings, reason: the
shaft
> surface has been cased harden for wear, cutting it down to fit the
bushings kills
> that protection, plus, the bushing is suppose to take the wear, not the
pivot
> shaft. WHY the Chinese did this I don't know, but Doug Sapp was good
enough
> to warn me in time about it.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
The bushings are made undersize to allow for line reaming to size after
installation. This is standard practice for this type of pin/bushing design.
The T6/Harvard gear pivot is done in the same manner.
Walt
>
>
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