---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/15/04: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:44 AM - Re: Yak Groupies (cpayne@joimail.com) 2. 04:27 AM - Re: Weights (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 05:00 AM - Re:Groupies (Janet Davidson) 4. 05:21 AM - 12V alternatives (Gus Fraser) 5. 06:45 AM - Re: 12V alternatives (Ernie Martinez) 6. 07:03 AM - Re: Weights (Ron Spencer) 7. 07:12 AM - 360hp or 285hp for cj's (Kelley Monroe) 8. 08:00 AM - Re: Weights (Ron Spencer) 9. 09:32 AM - T-34 (cjpilot710@aol.com) 10. 10:58 AM - Re: Winter Solstice (cpayne@joimail.com) 11. 11:56 AM - SNF Reservations (cpayne@joimail.com) 12. 12:11 PM - Re: 12V alternatives (Joe Howse) 13. 05:06 PM - Art work for shirts (Jay Land) 14. 05:17 PM - Hey everyone please take note (Doug Sapp) 15. 05:26 PM - Re: Hey everyone please take note (Cory Emberson) 16. 06:14 PM - Re: Hey everyone please take note (Terry) 17. 07:01 PM - Re: 12V alternatives (Walt Lannon) 18. 07:22 PM - Re: 12V alternatives (Gus Fraser) 19. 08:13 PM - Re: Hey everyone please take note (cjpilot710@aol.com) 20. 08:32 PM - Re: Hey everyone please take note (Ernie Martinez) 21. 09:16 PM - Re: Hey everyone please take note (Roger Bieberdorf) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:07 AM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak Groupies --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Doug asked: >I'm almost afraid to ask, but what the heck is a mucky stick? Doug, I think she just hit me with one! Not that a single "mucky stick" would ever keep away a REAL RedStar guy away from a fair lass with her own CJ/Yak...perhaps it works on those week-kneed spam can drivers who don't get as much exercise climbing up into the cockpit as we do :) Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:14 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Weights --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Ron, I was off on the weight. I checked the manual it says 11.6 kg which converts to 25.6 lbs. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Spencer" Subject: Yak-List: Weights > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" > > Anyone know how much the old russian generator weighs, compared to a new B&C > generator? > > thanks, -rs- > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:09 AM PST US From: "Janet Davidson" Subject: Yak-List: Re:Groupies --> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" Perfume, dahhling, perfume.... ;) And its a mixture of avgas and oil, of course....... On a more serious note, the INS has seen fit to issue me with all my employment authorization papers at long last, so if anyone know of a corporate flight department within about a 70 mile radius of Oshkosh that is looking for a pilot, please let me know. As soon as I can get a regular income I can repaint the Nanchang :) Thank you, Janet Time: 06:36:45 PM PST US From: Walt Fricke Subject: RE: Yak-List: Groupies... --> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke And I was going to ask...."Janet, what kind of aftershave do you use?" Ph: 920 232 9238 email: gbvfx@hotmail.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:41 AM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Folks, I am sure that this one has been slammed to death but I am looking for a really good 28V to 12V converter that works at a frequency that will work with a VHF com. I am going to be driving a couple of microair coms and some cameras so I am looking for about 7 + amps to make sure that I am not driving the unit at max. I do not really want to center tap the batteries due to uneven loads and charging issues. Any comments on the microair would be great to. BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with a bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and get me a virgin. Gus Yak52 N52EK And yes SP-91 N7SP91 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:49 AM PST US From: "Ernie Martinez" Subject: RE: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" http://www.mastervolt.com/dcdc/index.asp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gus Fraser Subject: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Folks, I am sure that this one has been slammed to death but I am looking for a really good 28V to 12V converter that works at a frequency that will work with a VHF com. I am going to be driving a couple of microair coms and some cameras so I am looking for about 7 + amps to make sure that I am not driving the unit at max. I do not really want to center tap the batteries due to uneven loads and charging issues. Any comments on the microair would be great to. BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with a bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and get me a virgin. Gus Yak52 N52EK And yes SP-91 N7SP91 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:18 AM PST US From: "Ron Spencer" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Weights --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" Thank you! -rs- ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Weights > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > Ron, > I was off on the weight. I checked the manual it says 11.6 kg which > converts to 25.6 lbs. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Spencer" > To: > Subject: Yak-List: Weights > > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" > >> >> Anyone know how much the old russian generator weighs, compared to a new > B&C >> generator? >> >> thanks, -rs- >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:20 AM PST US From: "Kelley Monroe" Subject: Yak-List: 360hp or 285hp for cj's --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" I just purchased my 5th CJ and the engine has 1278 hours since overhaul. Should I install a M14P or the 285hp? I plan to resale this plane in the next year or two. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:40 AM PST US From: "Ron Spencer" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Weights --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" To All, I have got to say that this e-mail list is really a fantastic wealth of info! I thank one and all for their time and input. Ok am slowly zeroing in on the W&B! One more question...anybody know the weight of the old Flight Data Recorder and its station on the Yak 55M, as I plan on replacing the FDR location with a smoke tank and pump? I am also somewhat amazed that the few Yak 55M in my area appear to have minimal W&B calcs! Merry Christmas! -rs- ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Weights > --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" > > Ron, > I was off on the weight. I checked the manual it says 11.6 kg which > converts to 25.6 lbs. > Dennis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Spencer" > To: > Subject: Yak-List: Weights > > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" > >> >> Anyone know how much the old russian generator weighs, compared to a new > B&C >> generator? >> >> thanks, -rs- >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:45 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: T-34 --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Troops, A little scuttlebutt from very good sources. The T-34 that just lost its wing down in Texas, while doing upset training with a South American student, had over 6,000 hours of 'air combat' time in the last ten or so years. It had some 14,000 hours total time. The wing broke 4 or 5 inches inside the fuselage wing attach point, in the cross over structure. Evidently the failure accrued at an old crack. There were also other cracks in the cross over section. The airplane had been over stressed a number of years ago at Sky Warriors in GA. and the spars were replaced with Baron spars at that time. Whether or not the crossover was inspected back than I don't know. Note that the Baron spars didn't fail but crossover structure between them so this is a "new problem". The inspection should be fairly easy but the repair/replace may not be. I understand the holders of the 4 spar mods that right now keep all T-34 airborne may change their specs to not cover air combat type maneuvers. The FAA seem to think that maybe good idea. This will most likely do away with those type "combat" schools/busniess but allow the T-34 guys back in the air. That is a simple as I can put it and this is very unoffical. While all this may seem out of our "baileywick" STC vs Experimental, the physics is not. Though our airplanes for the most part have much lower total times and we have never have had a known mid air breakup, physics is physics. We may luck out, in that our drag rise is a lot steeper than T-34s and we get to see a problem approaching sooner, we need to keep in mind and be continually reminded about over stressing our machine. In the heat of going after the kill, pilots will forget his first love, his airplane. Also preflight inspections and well as annuals inspection should be done meticulously. The cracks that these failures start from, are unbelievably small and hard to find with the naked eye. I got to see the original crack that caused the "to-do" on the rear spar of the T-34. It was unbelievably small. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:58:45 AM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Winter Solstice --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Gus said: "BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with a bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and get me a virgin." Gus: (1) I believe Winter Solstice isn't until the 21st, 0742 in your area. (2) LOL on Virgins over the legal minimum. Perhaps try some W120 "aftershave" for some of those Yak Groupies... or do you prefer 25W60?? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:26 AM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: SNF Reservations --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Due to popular demand, I'm posting room reservation info for our April Sun-n-Fun get together. We are staging out of Zephyrhills (ZPH), just NNW from LAL, located on Highway 301 and SR54 which crosses over from I-75. Easy to fly to, Easy to drive to. Finding the road to the airport is a little trickier. (1) Quality Inn, (813)762-2000, block period from Sunday 4/10, with Sunday 4/17 checkout. $63.99/night if more than 10 rooms reserved, otherwise $71.99 for King or Doubles. Mention "RedStar Pilots". Cancel 5 days prior to avoid 1st night charge. Cut off date for this rate is March 20th. I have 20 rooms on hold here and can get more if we need them. (2) Best Western, (813) 782-5527, about 1 mile closer to airport than the Quality, same block period but $71.10 night. Mention "RedStar Pilots". Rooms not reserved will be released April 1st. Not sure how many rooms I can actually hold, this place is a lot smaller. Make your own Credit Card reservation for these rooms at the RPA rate. I'll post rental car details later. Note that many other SNF attendees have been doing this very thing and at least 3 car rental companies will be at the field. Craig Payne (813) 764-9493 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:11 PM PST US From: Joe Howse Subject: Re: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse Ernie I have an "ASTRON" model 2412 regulated converter ASTRON CORP. IRVINE CA. input 24vdc output 12vdc 9amps continuos, 12 amps ICS > > Folks, > I am sure that this one has been slammed to death but I am looking for a > really good 28V to 12V converter that works at a frequency that will > work > with a VHF com. > > I am going to be driving a couple of microair coms and some cameras so I > am > looking for about 7 + amps to make sure that I am not driving the unit > at > max. I do not really want to center tap the batteries due to uneven > loads > and charging issues. Any comments on the microair would be great to. > > BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with > a > bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and > get > me a virgin. > > Gus > Yak52 N52EK > And yes > SP-91 N7SP91 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:46 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Art work for shirts From: Jay Land --> Yak-List message posted by: Jay Land Has anyone gotten a picture or drawing of a CJ6 digitized to use in embroidery on a shirt or hat (and would share it)? Thanks, Jay Land ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:37 PM PST US From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" As many of you know (and I am sure some don't) my primary business is growing flowers, my business name is actually Riverview Floral LTD. As the US flower market edged ever closer to the rim of the toilet I started selling CJ parts. In an effort to save a buck we decided to use the same credit card machine and credit card account that the floral business used. So when your credit card statement comes to you and your wife starts giving you the twenty questions treatment about who the hell you are sending 500 bucks worth of flowers to, please remember to tell her that it's really the "metal mistress" down at the hanger, not some bimbo bleach blonde strumpet that you have housed in a $3000.00 per month condo on the beach....honest honey. Over the past few months I have had at least a dozen calls from freaked out wives who wanted to know in no uncertain terms who the hell their lying, cheating, good for nothing layabout husbands were sending flowers to. One very pissed off wife indicated that "the dirty little SOB (her words) has never bought me a flower in 20 years"!! (some guys just aren't overly bright) I have also had several charges voided, Who the hell is Riverview?? This is a hassle also. So until we get a new account please remind your wife or whoever pays your bills that the charges to Riverview are OK. And while your at it go buy your wife some flowers, it just might be a good thing for both of us. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your business over the past years. Your support has been unbelievable, it has allowed me to develop my inventory into the largest CJ6 inventory anywhere this side of China and it's still growing because of all of you. Thanks again and please take our best wishes with you as you and your families enjoy this joyous Christmas season. Bless you one and all. Best wishes from our house to yours. Doug and Kathleen Sapp ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:19 PM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" Thanks for the head-up, Doug. Flowers do qualify for "Spousal Credits." Happy Holidays to all on the Yak list! Cory Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:38 PM PST US From: "Terry" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" Doug, I really got a laugh from this post. My wife also pays most bills and I made sure she knew what Riverview Florist was. Saved my tail ! Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > As many of you know (and I am sure some don't) my primary business is > growing flowers, my business name is actually Riverview Floral LTD. As > the > US flower market edged ever closer to the rim of the toilet I started > selling CJ parts. In an effort to save a buck we decided to use the same > credit card machine and credit card account that the floral business used. > So when your credit card statement comes to you and your wife starts > giving > you the twenty questions treatment about who the hell you are sending 500 > bucks worth of flowers to, please remember to tell her that it's really > the > "metal mistress" down at the hanger, not some bimbo bleach blonde strumpet > that you have housed in a $3000.00 per month condo on the beach....honest > honey. Over the past few months I have had at least a dozen calls from > freaked out wives who wanted to know in no uncertain terms who the hell > their lying, cheating, good for nothing layabout husbands were sending > flowers to. One very pissed off wife indicated that "the dirty little SOB > (her words) has never bought me a flower in 20 years"!! (some guys just > aren't overly bright) I have also had several charges voided, Who the > hell > is Riverview?? This is a hassle also. So until we get a new account > please > remind your wife or whoever pays your bills that the charges to Riverview > are OK. And while your at it go buy your wife some flowers, it just might > be a good thing for both of us. > > I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your > business over the past years. Your support has been unbelievable, it has > allowed me to develop my inventory into the largest CJ6 inventory anywhere > this side of China and it's still growing because of all of you. Thanks > again and please take our best wishes with you as you and your families > enjoy this joyous Christmas season. Bless you one and all. > > Best wishes from our house to yours. > > Doug and Kathleen Sapp > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:12 PM PST US From: "Walt Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" I also have the ASTRON 2412 in the Harvard and just recently bought a second (on ebay) for the CJ project. The one in the Harvard has been working fine for at least 15 years and was used when I got it. Walt > --> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse > > Ernie > > I have an "ASTRON" model 2412 regulated converter > ASTRON CORP. IRVINE CA. > input 24vdc > output 12vdc > 9amps continuos, 12 amps ICS > > > > Folks, > > I am sure that this one has been slammed to death but I am looking for a > > really good 28V to 12V converter that works at a frequency that will > > work > > with a VHF com. > > > > I am going to be driving a couple of microair coms and some cameras so I > > am > > looking for about 7 + amps to make sure that I am not driving the unit > > at > > max. I do not really want to center tap the batteries due to uneven > > loads > > and charging issues. Any comments on the microair would be great to. > > > > BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with > > a > > bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and > > get > > me a virgin. > > > > Gus > > Yak52 N52EK > > And yes > > SP-91 N7SP91 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:29 PM PST US From: "Gus Fraser" Subject: RE: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" Thanks all, My SP91 batteries will thank you all. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walt Lannon Subject: Re: Yak-List: 12V alternatives --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" I also have the ASTRON 2412 in the Harvard and just recently bought a second (on ebay) for the CJ project. The one in the Harvard has been working fine for at least 15 years and was used when I got it. Walt > --> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse > > Ernie > > I have an "ASTRON" model 2412 regulated converter > ASTRON CORP. IRVINE CA. > input 24vdc > output 12vdc > 9amps continuos, 12 amps ICS > > > > Folks, > > I am sure that this one has been slammed to death but I am looking for a > > really good 28V to 12V converter that works at a frequency that will > > work > > with a VHF com. > > > > I am going to be driving a couple of microair coms and some cameras so I > > am > > looking for about 7 + amps to make sure that I am not driving the unit > > at > > max. I do not really want to center tap the batteries due to uneven > > loads > > and charging issues. Any comments on the microair would be great to. > > > > BTW, Happy winter solstice to one and all, as a person who grew up with > > a > > bedroom window overlooking Stonehenge I feel a strong urge to go out and > > get > > me a virgin. > > > > Gus > > Yak52 N52EK > > And yes > > SP-91 N7SP91 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:44 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com It reminds me of my PAA days when crew scheduling lost me for a couple days (like 4). There I was sitting on the beach in Africa waiting to get assigned a flight home. There they were calling the house (ie my wife) wanting to send me out on a trip. There no scheduling computer back than. Just paper that evidently fill on the floor. Aaaa, that was the life. Pappy ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:06 PM PST US From: "Ernie Martinez" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie Martinez" Doug, I damn near just peed my pants. Ernie -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sapp Subject: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" As many of you know (and I am sure some don't) my primary business is growing flowers, my business name is actually Riverview Floral LTD. As the US flower market edged ever closer to the rim of the toilet I started selling CJ parts. In an effort to save a buck we decided to use the same ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:15 PM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PezPpGuhF/PVMsJqvDiVFFPGAmahTS8wsKJLhrvdFAxhS9uSUqT4MT9GyVoDrMOkCFTFWKkWY1Xom/MmVRtexHT0DIwS8ozyLhm3E5MHmvcxtncuo2oj62KRfUmzSCjoM3sSLWEMn5lOmn0fHnISqCXUCGOqKwgSHrpwnukTKac= ; From: Roger Bieberdorf Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hey everyone please take note --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf What kind of inconsiderate bastards are all of you people anyway?.....that you do not send your loved ones flowers at LEAST once per month. You certainly must be your own worst enemy! rb Doug Sapp wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" As many of you know (and I am sure some don't) my primary business is growing flowers, my business name is actually Riverview Floral LTD. As the US flower market edged ever closer to the rim of the toilet I started selling CJ parts. In an effort to save a buck we decided to use the same credit card machine and credit card account that the floral business used. So when your credit card statement comes to you and your wife starts giving you the twenty questions treatment about who the hell you are sending 500 bucks worth of flowers to, please remember to tell her that it's really the "metal mistress" down at the hanger, not some bimbo bleach blonde strumpet that you have housed in a $3000.00 per month condo on the beach....honest honey. Over the past few months I have had at least a dozen calls from freaked out wives who wanted to know in no uncertain terms who the hell their lying, cheating, good for nothing layabout husbands were sending flowers to. One very pissed off wife indicated that "the dirty little SOB (her words) has never bought me a flower in 20 years"!! (some guys just aren't overly bright) I have also had several charges voided, Who the hell is Riverview?? This is a hassle also. So until we get a new account please remind your wife or whoever pays your bills that the charges to Riverview are OK. And while your at it go buy your wife some flowers, it just might be a good thing for both of us. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your business over the past years. Your support has been unbelievable, it has allowed me to develop my inventory into the largest CJ6 inventory anywhere this side of China and it's still growing because of all of you. Thanks again and please take our best wishes with you as you and your families enjoy this joyous Christmas season. Bless you one and all. Best wishes from our house to yours. Doug and Kathleen Sapp ---------------------------------