Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/29/04


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:27 AM - Yak-55 Info (Scott Kirk)
     2. 07:48 AM - Are you a CFI? (Drew Blahnick)
     3. 07:57 AM - Is your buddy a CFI? Part II (Drew Blahnick)
     4. 09:35 AM - Re: Are you a CFI? (Bpx2horn@aol.com)
     5. 09:37 AM - Insurance Concerns (Tom Johnson)
     6. 09:50 AM - Gear problem (Tom Johnson)
     7. 10:47 AM - V530 (Chanock Richka)
     8. 10:47 AM - Are you a CFI part III (Drew Blahnick)
     9. 11:30 AM - Re: Are you a CFI? (Terry Calloway)
    10. 12:29 PM - Re: V530 (ggg6@att.net)
    11. 12:34 PM - Re: Gear problem (Ernest Martinez)
    12. 01:37 PM - Re: V530 (cpayne@joimail.com)
    13. 01:54 PM - Re: Gear Mishaps and RPA newsletters (Lee Taylor)
    14. 03:22 PM - Re: Gear problem (Brian Lloyd)
    15. 03:58 PM - email bounce (Yak52)
    16. 04:32 PM - RPA CFI pt IV (Drew Blahnick)
    17. 04:48 PM - Re: Gear problem (DaBear)
    18. 07:00 PM - CJ 1778...who's dat guy? (David Stroud)
    19. 07:00 PM - Re: Gear problem (A. Dennis Savarese)
    20. 08:04 PM - Re: CJ 1778...who's dat guy? (Terry Calloway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:27:17 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Yak-55 Info
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Scott Kirk" <pilot8kcab@hotmail.com> Does anyone have the length of the Mean Aerodynamic Chord (MAC) for a Yak-55 long wing (not the Yak-55M)? I'm developing weight and balance info and unfortunately the manuals I have are for a 55M, not the 55. I've gone thru some of the original Russian books that came with the aircraft and have not been able to date to dig out this number though I did manage to find some of the other W&B info but not all. Any Yak 55 info relative to weight and balance calcs would be appreciated! Thanks, Scott


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    Time: 07:48:08 AM PST US
    From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Are you a CFI?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com> Folks, I have a huge request to ask from you, would you help me help your insurance rates? Would you please take a moment to e-mail me directly if you are a current certified flight instructor or will be in 2005?? I need you to mail me directly at lacloudchaser@yahoo.com If you want to go that extra step and add this info, please do so: First and last name RPA member yes or no City, State your phone contact if you want to provide it to me (default contct is email) Your contact info will not be shared in the public domain unless we speak and you give me further guidance. Even if you don't want to instruct at this time at your home field, I still need to here from you directly - not to the yak list please (just so I don't miss you) If you know of a friend who flys CJs and Yaks and is a CFI, please let me know, I will do the work tracking him/her down. Thanks! Drew Blahnick RPA ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:57:00 AM PST US
    From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Is your buddy a CFI? Part II
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com> Folks, In the last message, I referenced CJ, Yak owners who were CFIs, If you know of a CFI at your home field who has ample experience in CJs, Yaks, etc., and you have flown with him/her, please e-mail me off list, thank you Drew Blahnick RPA ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:35:10 AM PST US
    From: Bpx2horn@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Are you a CFI?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com Drew, I am a current and qualified Gold Seal CFI, II, and MEI. I have over 100 Hrs in a Yak 52 and I have over 100 Hrs in a Yak 52 TW. I live in Northern Illinos on the C77(Poplar Grove) airport. I also own a condo near the CVG airport as I am based their with DHL. Paul Hornick 815-547-1430 HM 859-150-3200 Cl


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    Time: 09:37:48 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: Insurance Concerns
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Fellow CJ / Yak pilots: As some of you may know, I've sounded the ALERT horn due to an alarming trend. The CJs and Yaks as a whole are having a very bad claims year due to Gear mishaps and Prop strikes. In the last month or so, we've had about 10 gear / prop related mishaps. In the last year, we've had about 24 gear / prop related mishaps. The T28s, T6s, T34s have had virtually Zero gear / prop related mishaps. This trend has been increasing in both frequency and magnitude in recent weeks. So, we stick out like a sore thumb to the underwriter at USSIC who provides most of our insurance. The problem for us, what will happen to our ability to obtain insurance? Prices go way up? US Specialty decides to stop writing Yaks? Now is NOT the time to point fingers, or blame capitalism or new pilots or old pilots. In fact the claims come from across the spectrum and indicate we need to change a few things in our aircraft and a few things in our training and habits. I am working closely with the RPA Board of Directors, and gathering input from our Mechanics and Instructors. We will fix this problem, and we will show the underwriters that we can get the results we want. In the meantime. Please re-read your emergency and normal checklists. If you have been having gear problems or gremlins, please address. My own aircraft is down now because of a small actuator leak, so I'm gonna rebuild both actuators just to be safe. Stand by for additional details, please. Yours truly. Tom Johnson


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    Time: 09:50:28 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com>
    Subject: Gear problem
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> You had an nice afternoon flight. You return to your home airport and execute a sweet overhead break. You select gear down and hear a nice loud .. . . .. jack-shit. Main air is ZERO. Emergency is 45ATM. What do you do now? Please think about this. Do not worry about the cause (failed compressor, failed line, etc) that doesn't matter now. How do you get that gear down. IF you reply to "the list" because you know your procedures cold and back up with a checklist . . Please keep your post short and to the point. Get that gear down.


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    Time: 10:47:46 AM PST US
    From: "Chanock Richka" <crichka@hotmail.com>
    Subject: V530
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Chanock Richka" <crichka@hotmail.com> Yakers; Does anyone have some info. on the V530 prop blade fabric material, removal and replacement. I have past experience with fabric and paint work, need good input. thanks Chanock. 52CY


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    Time: 10:47:46 AM PST US
    From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Are you a CFI part III
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com> Folks, well done! Great results, I've gotten 18 certified flight instructors from this polling on the yak list, but I need at least 25, I think we can do it... Remember, if you have a certified flight instructor on your field, someone you know and have flown with, and that person has ample time in your or others Yak, CJ, etc. We need to hear from you. Next step in this program is asking if any of you cfis (or not) have information you can send me electronically, such as: 1. checklists for the cj, yak 52, yak 50, etc, that you or someone has built 2. ops limits documents. Perhaps you once made a nice quick reference spreadsheet of ops limits. 3. new cj/yak pilot syllabus. have you made any form of a syllabus to guide your instruction of new / refresher pilots through sorties? 4. Any other training material you think we should look at. Please send electronically any such documents you think should be reviewed for training, nothing, is put in the public domain until I personally contact you. your stuff is not being critically judged, I'm just looking for the best source material out there to save time and save your insurance rates. Its best if they are in editable format, MS Word, Publisher, Excell for example. Thanks all, Drew Blahnick RPA ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:30:12 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: Are you a CFI?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> You forgot to mention that you're one Crazy Guy. :))) Hi, Paul how'z it going? tc >>> Bpx2horn@aol.com 12/29/04 11:33 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com Drew, I am a current and qualified Gold Seal CFI, II, and MEI. I have over 100 Hrs in a Yak 52 and I have over 100 Hrs in a Yak 52 TW. I live in Northern Illinos on the C77(Poplar Grove) airport. I also own a condo near the CVG airport as I am based their with DHL.


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    Time: 12:29:55 PM PST US
    From: ggg6@att.net
    Subject: Re: V530
    --> Yak-List message posted by: ggg6@att.net Hi Gary here in LAS... Contact Jim at Whrilwind Propeller in San Diego...he does a lot of blade work...and has worked on the V530...Gary -------------- Original message from "Chanock Richka" <crichka@hotmail.com>: -------------- > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Chanock Richka" > > Yakers; > > > Does anyone have some info. on the V530 prop blade fabric material, removal > and replacement. > > I have past experience with fabric and paint work, need good input. > > thanks > Chanock. 52CY > > > > > > <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> Hi Gary here in LAS... Contact Jim at Whrilwind Propeller in San Diego...he does a lot of blade work...and has worked on the V530...Gary -------------- Original message from "Chanock Richka" crichka@hotmail.com: -------------- -- Yak-List message posted by: "Chanock Richka" <CRICHKA@HOTMAIL.COM> Yakers; Does anyone have some info. on the V530 prop blade fabric material, removal and replacement. I have past experience with fabric and paint work, need good input. thanks Chanock. 52CY ==== <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->


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    Time: 12:34:49 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Gear problem
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Set the gear handle to neutral, and try again, you may have a bad guage. Try the flaps, if still nothing, then assuming this isnt a trick question and no one in the back seat has done anything. Close main air, open emergency air then set gear handle up, then down to avoid the BANG. Ernie On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:47:59 -0700, Tom Johnson <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > You had an nice afternoon flight. > You return to your home airport and execute a sweet overhead break. > > You select gear down and hear a nice loud .. . . .. jack-shit. > Main air is ZERO. Emergency is 45ATM. > > What do you do now? > > Please think about this. > Do not worry about the cause (failed compressor, failed line, etc) that doesn't matter now. > How do you get that gear down. > > IF you reply to "the list" because you know your procedures cold and back up with a checklist . . > Please keep your post short and to the point. > > Get that gear down. > > >


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    Time: 01:37:36 PM PST US
    From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: V530
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> I'm currently refinishing the V530 paddle blades on my CJ. Reason, I'm a po' boy and I can't stop challenging myself. Oh well.. Let me know off-list if you want details but first order a prop OH manual. The one I have is for the Wilga but close enough. Also order a digital scale that measures up to 10000 grams and is accurate to 1g. Not cheap but required. BTW, I'm going with 'glass and Kevlar on mine. Craig Payne


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    Time: 01:54:07 PM PST US
    From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gear Mishaps and RPA newsletters
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@comcast.net> Re Gear mishaps: (Anonymous--because I don't want anyone to know) Please, guys, put that audible warning switch on your throttle! I was test-flying quite a hot little homebuilt, and it developed an assymetrical control situation that very definitely got my attention. (it slowly developed a need for about half right aileron to hold level--no stick forces, just displaced aileron, which I could see). I set up for landing, and was trying to be very careful about speeds, etc, in case things got worse. Rather tense, I might admit. Somewhat in a hurry to get on the ground. Didn't know what the problem was, and wasn't going to wait around to see or troubleshoot. Turning final, a guy flew a radio-controlled model in front of me, no problem, but a distraction. Flared nicely, everything working out o-k, kinda congratulating myself on "my skill", when something flipped by the windshield. "Durn, what was that, a bird?" Nope, it was a piece of the wood prop, immediately before the scraping sound of the belly. This experimental didn't have a gear warning system, and with all the distractions, GUESS WHAT????? because I had burned all the fuel off that side of the wing. Dumb again.


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    Time: 03:22:52 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Gear problem
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> On Dec 29, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Tom Johnson wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" > <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > You had an nice afternoon flight. > You return to your home airport and execute a sweet overhead break. > > You select gear down and hear a nice loud .. . . .. jack-shit. > Main air is ZERO. Emergency is 45ATM. > > What do you do now? Here it is from the emergency check list that Linedog and I worked on several years ago. The last part, the one at the end labled "IF GEAR STILL FAILS TO EXTEND:" is the part you need to commit to memory. LANDING GEAR EXTENSION FAILURE Landing Gear Handles Check Fwd/Aft Main Air Valve Check Open Main Air Pressure Check IF AIR PRESSURE IS LOW: Continue and Monitor Pressure. If Air Pressure remains low, refer to Main Air Pressure Low checklist. IF AIR PRESSURE INCREASES TO NORMAL: Landing Gear Handle Down/3Green & Poles IF GEAR STILL FAILS TO EXTEND: Landing Gear Handles Check Fwd/Aft Landing Gear Handle Recycle Consider reducing airspeed, yawing the aircraft or using G-loads to assist in gear extension. IF GEAR STILL FAILS TO EXTEND: Main Air Valve Close Landing Gear Handle Neutral Emergency Air Valve Open Landing Gear Handle Down/3Green & Poles Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry


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    Time: 03:58:57 PM PST US
    From: "Yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org>
    Subject: email bounce
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org> Harold Middleton - please email me off list, your email Address seems to be invalid. Deon Esterhuizen - admin@flyredstar.org


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    Time: 04:32:34 PM PST US
    From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RPA CFI pt IV
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com> Folks, What an excellent response - thanks, please keep these cfi contacts coming, e-mail me directly, We will contact each and everyone individually on the program details. Drew ---------------------------------


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    Time: 04:48:12 PM PST US
    From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: Gear problem
    --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> Just a couple of comments. 1. if you don't have main air, putting the gear in the up position will not charge the up side (the emergency air doesn't go there.) 2. The main gear handle should be in the neutral position to put the gear down using the emergency air. 3. If there was no one in the back seat, then the handle (most likely) is in the neutral position since the gear came up. (IF the rear handle was in the down position, the gear wouldn't come up. If it was in the up position, the gear would have been up before taking off) The checklist I have says: Gear Fails to extend: 1. Main air valve OPEN/Check Pressure IF Low, continue until pressure increases 2. Aft Landing Gear Handle -Check Neutral (OR DOWN) 3. Forward Landing Gear Handle- Check DOWN 4. Gear Lights and Pins - Confirm gear down and locked IF gear fails to extend: 5. Landing Gear handles -- Neutral 6. Main Air Valve Closed 7. Emergency Air Valve -- OPEN 8. Gear Lights and Pins -- Confirm GEAR DOWN and LOCKED 9 Emergency Air System Pressure-- Check 10. Monitor Emergency and Main Air Systems Pressure-- MONITOR 11. LAND After Landing and Shutting down Aircraft: 12. Forward landing gear handle -- down. My checklist, not to be confused with an authorized checklist. Al DeVere Ernest Martinez wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > >Set the gear handle to neutral, and try again, you may have a bad >guage. Try the flaps, if still nothing, then assuming this isnt a >trick question and no one in the back seat has done anything. Close >main air, open emergency air then set gear handle up, then down to >avoid the BANG. > >Ernie > > >On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:47:59 -0700, Tom Johnson ><tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> wrote: > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> >> >>You had an nice afternoon flight. >>You return to your home airport and execute a sweet overhead break. >> >>You select gear down and hear a nice loud .. . . .. jack-shit. >>Main air is ZERO. Emergency is 45ATM. >> >>What do you do now? >> >>Please think about this. >>Do not worry about the cause (failed compressor, failed line, etc) that doesn't matter now. >>How do you get that gear down. >> >>IF you reply to "the list" because you know your procedures cold and back up with a checklist . . >>Please keep your post short and to the point. >> >>Get that gear down. >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 07:00:16 PM PST US
    From: "David Stroud" <dstroud@rogers.com>
    Subject: CJ 1778...who's dat guy?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <dstroud@rogers.com> We're packing for a move soon and I was cleaning up some stuff in the office and came upon a picture of four CJ's on a grassy area somewhere. Might have been in a real back corner at SNF, but the background doesn't look right. Four CJ's in total, all in olive drab, one with no markings and tied down, another tied down, two running, can't see the marks on number two but the guy in the rear seat of 1778 with the white ball cap is waving like hell. All red star markings I guess, being a star in a bar with yellow outline. David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS F24 C-FDAE in restoration


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    Time: 07:00:16 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
    Subject: Re: Gear problem
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net> Verbatim from the Yak 52 POH available for download on my website. Dennis If it is not possible to extend the landing gear in the usual way, perform an emergency extension as follows: Check emergency air pressure is at least 10 Kg/sM Set landing gear lever to neutral in both cockpits Wait as long as fuel allows for air to exhaust Reduce speed to minimum 82 MPH (71 Kts) Open emergency gear release valve on the right side of the cockpit Check for green "Gear Down" light Close the emergency gear release valve only after completing the flight and shutting down the engine DO NOT ATTEMPT TO RAISE THE GEAR USING THE EMERGENCY SYSTEM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> Subject: Yak-List: Gear problem > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > You had an nice afternoon flight. > You return to your home airport and execute a sweet overhead break. > > You select gear down and hear a nice loud .. . . .. jack-shit. > Main air is ZERO. Emergency is 45ATM. > > What do you do now? > > Please think about this. > Do not worry about the cause (failed compressor, failed line, etc) that doesn't matter now. > How do you get that gear down. > > IF you reply to "the list" because you know your procedures cold and back up with a checklist . . > Please keep your post short and to the point. > > Get that gear down. > >


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    Time: 08:04:59 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
    Subject: Re: CJ 1778...who's dat guy?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com> Standard Chinese markings? Kilo Watts, Muskogee, OK - SNF 2002 1778 on the tail. tc >>> dstroud@rogers.com 12/29/04 8:53 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "David Stroud" <dstroud@rogers.com> We're packing for a move soon and I was cleaning up some stuff in the office and came upon a picture of four CJ's on a grassy area somewhere. Might have been in a real back corner at SNF, but the background doesn't look right. Four CJ's in total, all in olive drab, one with no markings and tied down, another tied down, two running, can't see the marks on number two but the guy in the rear seat of 1778 with the white ball cap is waving like hell. All red star markings I guess, being a star in a bar with yellow outline. David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS F24 C-FDAE in restoration




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