Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:42 AM - Re: RPA Report (Daniel Fortin)
2. 03:46 AM - Re: Gear Warning (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 04:39 AM - Re: Gear Check (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 04:58 AM - Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale (black seven)
5. 05:49 AM - Hours on type (Daniel Fortin)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: Mags (Walt Murphy)
7. 07:18 AM - Re: Hours on type (Brian Lloyd)
8. 07:26 AM - Re: RPA Report (Ernest Martinez)
9. 07:37 AM - Re: Mags & ignition (Ernest Martinez)
10. 07:54 AM - Re: RPA Report (Yak52)
11. 08:04 AM - Re: GPS equiped ersonal Locator Beacon (PLB) (Lee Taylor)
12. 08:05 AM - Re: Mags & ignition (Frank Haertlein)
13. 08:11 AM - Important read this (Drew Blahnick)
14. 08:20 AM - Re: Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale (Jim and Vivian)
15. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Gear Check (D Zeman)
16. 08:33 AM - Re: Hours on type (cjpilot710@aol.com)
17. 08:36 AM - Re: Hours on type (N4829T@aol.com)
18. 08:54 AM - Re: Hours on type (Ernest Martinez)
19. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Re: Gear Check (A. Dennis Savarese)
20. 09:51 AM - Re: Hours on type (mark williamson)
21. 10:02 AM - Gear Checks and mind games (Doug Sapp)
22. 10:02 AM - Re: Hours on type (Gus Fraser)
23. 10:05 AM - Re: Hours on type (Doug Sapp)
24. 10:31 AM - Re: Gear Checks and mind games (Ernest Martinez)
25. 10:53 AM - Re: Gear Checks and mind games (John W. Cox)
26. 11:18 AM - Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (ART STAVRO)
27. 11:45 AM - Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (Doug Sapp)
28. 11:50 AM - Re: Mags & ignition (Ben Marsh)
29. 12:02 PM - Re: Mags & ignition (Jorgen Nielsen)
30. 12:13 PM - Re: Mags & ignition (A. Dennis Savarese)
31. 12:28 PM - Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (Ernest Martinez)
32. 12:29 PM - Re: Gear Checks and mind games (Ernest Martinez)
33. 01:24 PM - Re: Mags & ignition (Ben Marsh)
34. 01:56 PM - Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (ART STAVRO)
35. 01:59 PM - Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (ART STAVRO)
36. 03:04 PM - Re: Fw: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (Ernest Martinez)
37. 03:47 PM - Re: Gear Checks and mind games (cjpilot710@aol.com)
38. 03:51 PM - Re: Gear Checks and mind games (Doug Sapp)
39. 04:01 PM - Re: Mags & ignition (Jorgen Nielsen)
40. 04:30 PM - [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT! (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
41. 05:16 PM - Re: Hours on type (Jon Boede)
42. 05:21 PM - Re: Important read this (Jon Boede)
43. 05:42 PM - Re: Hours on type (Richard Basiliere)
44. 06:19 PM - Oil Temperatures (Cj6av8r@aol.com)
45. 08:32 PM - Re: Mags & ignition (Jim Martyn)
46. 08:32 PM - Re: Oil Temperatures (Walt Lannon)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Drew,
The password is easy to remember. The member number I simply cant. This is
the main reason I don't check the RPA or RPAtalk sites that often. I use
the auto-login on my own computer at home, but since I spend a fair amount
of time on the road these days don't have much opportunity to do so.
Personally, I would much prefer if one could choose his/her own sign-in name
or even simply remove the requirement for a member number and leave the
password...
Dan
>From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: RPA Report
>Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:49:38 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
>
>Folks,
>
>Trivia, but it might imply email address updating:
>
>The 'Letter from the President' sent 3 days ago to all RPA members emails
>in the database contained at flyredstar (master database) had a dual
>purpose; it was also a test of distribution effectiveness for the follow on
>newsletters/bulletins:
>
>92.7% Were delivered successfully to your inboxes
>
>7.3% Bounced and were not able to deliver (bad emails)
>
>Not bad, as some folks have moved on and are still on our list. If you
>didn't recieve this letter and you are an RPA member, please update your
>email in account administration.
>
>Coming soon: I'm having Deon remove passwords from the login process, just
>Member Numbers only to login. Change will occur shortly. Someone buy him
>a beer at Waycross.
>
>Drew
>
>Drew Blahnick
>RPA
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Warning |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez
<erniel29@gmail.com>
>What about the pneumatically operated ram installed in the
seat bottom
>which would actuate right up your butt if you didnt
acknowledge the
>warning given so far?
>
>Ernie
I have such a device...it's called a parachute, and after 2
hours Butt causes Brain to find the gear lever and an
airport to land. :)
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
One additional item that should be taught and become automatic. Whenever
the gear selector is moved to the DOWN position, the slide lock is moved
into the lock position. This should become an automatic function. With the
slide lock in place, the gear can not be retracted.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "D Zeman" <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Gear Check
> --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
>
> The gear mods are intriguing but they are not fool
> proof - nor is anything - I know everyone knows this.
> However, 3 main things are done in the pattern: gear,
> prop and flaps. The standard way is gear abeam, prop
> on base and flaps on final. I teach in this fashion.
> I do teach that at each configuration change to check
> the status of the others - i.e. abeam, gear down -
> call out and state: gear, prop and flap status (at
> abeam it would be GEAR DOWN AND LOCKED, STICKS
> CONFIRMED, PROP 70%, FLAPS UP). Base: you should be
> pushing the prop forward - check and call out the
> status of all three (GEAR DOWN AND LOCKED, STICKS
> CONFIRMED, PROP FORWARD, FLAPS UP) and repeat for the
> flap change on final (GEAR DOWN AND LOCKED, STICKS
> CONFIRMED, PROP FORWARD, FLAPS DOWN). Also I like a
> call of the status of all 3 on short final.
> Agreed this is not fool proof as well however, with
> this training, the most important feature, gear, is
> checked 3-4 times before landing.
> I believe training is much better than a reliance on a
> mechanical mechanism that can come to annoy you during
> the flight regimes these planes love so well.
> D. Zeman.
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: black seven <fwblack7@yahoo.com>
I'm looking for a Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale or trade. I have a Citabria 7KCAB
w/1155tt. I don't mind a project a/c. I'd appreciate any info or advice.
Thanks, Ben Recker
Check 6!
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Gang,
As I approach the 10year mark of my love affair with this beautiful Chinese
mistress of mine, I am now figuring out how many hours I have shared with
her. I am quite curious has to what level of on type experience we as a
group have on our airplanes. Anyone ever tallied up their on-type time?
Dan
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net>
Is anyone doing this for the CJ engine ?
thanks,
Walt
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| Subject: | Re: Hours on type |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Jan 7, 2005, at 8:48 AM, Daniel Fortin wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin"
> <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Gang,
>
> As I approach the 10year mark of my love affair with this beautiful
> Chinese
> mistress of mine, I am now figuring out how many hours I have shared
> with
> her. I am quite curious has to what level of on type experience we as
> a
> group have on our airplanes. Anyone ever tallied up their on-type
> time?
I amassed about 750 hours in the CJ when I had mine. That was over
about 3.5 years. I did feel that I was comfortable and proficient with
it at that rate.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Most websites today use the persons email as the username and let the
user choose a password.
Ernie
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:40:48 +0000, Daniel Fortin
<fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Drew,
>
> The password is easy to remember. The member number I simply cant. This is
> the main reason I don't check the RPA or RPAtalk sites that often. I use
> the auto-login on my own computer at home, but since I spend a fair amount
> of time on the road these days don't have much opportunity to do so.
> Personally, I would much prefer if one could choose his/her own sign-in name
> or even simply remove the requirement for a member number and leave the
> password...
>
> Dan
>
> >From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Yak-List: RPA Report
> >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:49:38 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >Trivia, but it might imply email address updating:
> >
> >The 'Letter from the President' sent 3 days ago to all RPA members emails
> >in the database contained at flyredstar (master database) had a dual
> >purpose; it was also a test of distribution effectiveness for the follow on
> >newsletters/bulletins:
> >
> >92.7% Were delivered successfully to your inboxes
> >
> >7.3% Bounced and were not able to deliver (bad emails)
> >
> >Not bad, as some folks have moved on and are still on our list. If you
> >didn't recieve this letter and you are an RPA member, please update your
> >email in account administration.
> >
> >Coming soon: I'm having Deon remove passwords from the login process, just
> >Member Numbers only to login. Change will occur shortly. Someone buy him
> >a beer at Waycross.
> >
> >Drew
> >
> >Drew Blahnick
> >RPA
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mags & ignition |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I would ask Pappy for advice on this one. He changed everything and it
turned out to be a bad mag. I think he even repleced the mag but the
replacement was bad also, so he chased his tail untill he tried yet
another mag and that fixed the problem. His only symptom was an out of
spec mag drop.
Ernie
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:09:26 -0600, A. Dennis Savarese <adsavar@gte.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> Replace your entire Russian spark plugs and ignition harness with an
> automotive conversion kit that includes everything down to the flat washers
> that replace the tabs removed with the wiring harness ring. Explicit
> instructions with color photos. Spark plugs are available over the counter
> at your local auto supply store and the wires are Taylor 8 mm spiro-wrapped,
> silicone-carbon impregnated racing wires. Everything is cut to fit for each
> plug, front and rear. Contact me off list if you're interested.
>
> I now have a little over 17 hours on the installation and it runs better
> than it ever has, idles significantly better, starts better and the mag drop
> is less than 2% on both mags.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> To: "Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > I recently suffered a rough running engine on my '52 on take off, run up
> > checks were OK. Problem was intermittent, and I found the problem to be
> > Mag 2 (RHS) missing badly so opened it up to find a cracked rotor.
> > Swapped it out, still had a problem. Then changed the whole magneto,
> > problem is still there sometimes but better.
> >
> > I now suspect a bad plug lead(s). Any ideas welcome.
> >
> > Point of the email is that I was faced with the problem of synchronising
> > the timing, but without a tool made for the job. I couldn't use 2 test
> > lamps because the points are grounded via the internal coil so dc flows
> > through regardless of whether the points are open or closed.
> >
> > Figuring the coil would provide some inductive resistance to ac, and
> > scratching around in the hangar, I made up a test unit with an old 6v
> > transformer (AC output, broke open a wall charger and snipped the diode
> > bridge & cap off), connected through 2 12v lamps I mounted to a board,
> > with 3 croc clips attached. One went to earth, one to each magneto
> > point. Also figured the 6v with 2 low power 12v maps would safety limit
> > current. Worked great. The lamps glow dimly, not blinding you when
> > looking at them but still bright, then almost go out as the points open.
> > Timed the second mag using the good mag so that turning the prop
> > extinguished both lamps simultaneously (as the points opened), so timing
> > dead on the same. This took a while. Maybe someone might be able to
> > use this somewhere...
> >
> > As mentioned although feeling very pleased with my home grown
> > synchroniser, still did not solve the problem - intermittently when
> > running on no. 2 she still misfires, other times she's OK. My engine
> > start & test was fine, run up test fine. Decided to go fly, taxi fine,
> > run ups showed a bit of mag drop, take off fine, no problems at all when
> > running on both, but sometimes when switching to 2 only she runs rough
> > still. But not always. I HATE intermittent faults!
> >
> > By the way, there should be a special club for people that have
> > successfully removed and replaced magnetos in-situ from the M14P. We
> > could meet from time to time and reminisce about whether we actually
> > managed to finger tighten the nut more than 1/2 turn, how many bleeding
> > wounds on the back of one's hand were generated, how on the first time
> > we took an angle grinder to our favourite no. 14 spanner, how to turn
> > the forward $%#%$ securing nut takes 3 operations top & bottom with 2
> > spanners to turn 1/6 turn, etc, etc....
> >
> >
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" <yak52@flyredstar.org>
I can change the login logic to accept email address as member id and you
can already pick your password. I do need some feedback on this before I
change the site - send me comments to admin@flyredstar.org if I get a lot of
positive feedback on this I will change the site.
You will still have a memberID that will be printed on your membership card
for unique identification.
Deon.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: Re: Yak-List: RPA Report
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Most websites today use the persons email as the username and let the
user choose a password.
Ernie
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:40:48 +0000, Daniel Fortin
<fougapilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Drew,
>
> The password is easy to remember. The member number I simply cant. This
is
> the main reason I don't check the RPA or RPAtalk sites that often. I use
> the auto-login on my own computer at home, but since I spend a fair amount
> of time on the road these days don't have much opportunity to do so.
> Personally, I would much prefer if one could choose his/her own sign-in
name
> or even simply remove the requirement for a member number and leave the
> password...
>
> Dan
>
> >From: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >To: yak-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Yak-List: RPA Report
> >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:49:38 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >Trivia, but it might imply email address updating:
> >
> >The 'Letter from the President' sent 3 days ago to all RPA members emails
> >in the database contained at flyredstar (master database) had a dual
> >purpose; it was also a test of distribution effectiveness for the follow
on
> >newsletters/bulletins:
> >
> >92.7% Were delivered successfully to your inboxes
> >
> >7.3% Bounced and were not able to deliver (bad emails)
> >
> >Not bad, as some folks have moved on and are still on our list. If you
> >didn't recieve this letter and you are an RPA member, please update your
> >email in account administration.
> >
> >Coming soon: I'm having Deon remove passwords from the login process,
just
> >Member Numbers only to login. Change will occur shortly. Someone buy
him
> >a beer at Waycross.
> >
> >Drew
> >
> >Drew Blahnick
> >RPA
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS equiped ersonal Locator Beacon (PLB) |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@comcast.net>
RE: ELT's vs PLB
We have (had, actually) the PLB on our boat. This is quite a
neat little gadget, like has been said, it combines the ELT function
with a GPS signal, plus is registered to the operator, so that whenever
it is activated, it not only sends out a GPS location for the search
vessels, it identifies who the signal is coming from. Identifies them
by name.
The only problem is this little sucker costs $1400, (slightly
less for the newest ones), and the battery, which has to be replaced
every five years, is $350.00!!! And it has to be sent to Washington
state to be replaced---no operator replacement allowed.
AND, when we just bit the bullet and sent ours in for a new
battery, (was working fine when we sent it in--that is a required
pre-sending check), when the put the new battery on it, the new battery
FRIED the unit! Kiss $1400 goodbye.
Plus the thing was that the unit was mounted on a bracket in the
aft cabin of the boat, and it is not an automatic unit. You have to get
to it, and turn it on. That could be real interesting if the
Lee Taylor
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
I'll second what Preston said about the ignition harness. I had similar
problems that wouldn't go away. Everything pointed to the ignition
harness. I replaced my wires with the 5mm silicone solid core wire
(about 100 feet worth if I remember right) by pulling them thru the
harness using the old wires. Saved allot of time and headache doing it
that way. Runs great now.
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
PHCarter@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
--> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent missing and
roughness
issues. I have similar long stories of trouble shooting, symptomology
(sp?),
and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and sparkplugs with
little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the ignition
harness.
Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be rebuilt and
then
re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many people had
suggestions
on how to replace the ignition wire without removing the entire harness.
After
long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to remove the
entire
harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great decision!
Removing
the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to re-install.
Re-building
the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding, re-plating metal
components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is not cheap
either. The
result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a beat since,
excellent
throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked up 5 to 10
kph
airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in Hayward CA
(510)
782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would recommend
calling them
regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness. Share your
problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
Preston Carter (N6209F)
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| Subject: | Important read this |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
Folks,
The RPA currently uses a non-changing "Member ID" and password - we are making
changes to make life simple for dues paying members based on your suggestions.
We received a very good suggestion to use your email address as your member ID
and retain a password of your choosing - great suggestion, much of the web is
moving this direction and so can we. This has of course an added benefit; it
will also insure you keep your email address up to date with us which drives all
RPA-Member communication.
Again, this system will retain a password field of your choice. I need you to
email us at admin@flyredstar.org, not to the yak list, if you have any further
feedback or suggestions, positive or negative on this before we make the code
changes tomorrow. It is very important that you visit account administration
and update your email address, as incorrect data will cost additional volunteer
manhours.
Please be aware, at this time I will not have the new membership cards printed
with your password on them; I am wary of folks who use common passwords for other
non-RPA uses and do not want to aid in accidental disclosure issues that could
harm our members. If you have comments on this, please include them to us
at admin.
Drew
Drew Blahnick
RPA
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
Ben
You can call me off line, I have a CJ and a Yak-53 for sale, And a Yak-18PS
.
Jim Selby
831 384-7046 Home
831 883-1266 Hanger
----- Original Message -----
From: "black seven" <fwblack7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale
> --> Yak-List message posted by: black seven <fwblack7@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm looking for a Yak 50, 52, or CJ6 for sale or trade. I have a Citabria
7KCAB w/1155tt. I don't mind a project a/c. I'd appreciate any info or
advice. Thanks, Ben Recker
>
>
> Check 6!
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Good point Dennis.
I think it was Mr. Goolsby that suggested a
spring-loaded locking latch mod - now that might be
worth looking into.
Regards,
Zeman
__________________________________
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Over 1,200 hours in just my CJ. Best part of my life!
Pappy
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--> Yak-List message posted by: N4829T@aol.com
About the best 500 hours of my life!
Jim(Launch Pad) Plumlee
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
About 350 hours
Ernie
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:36:23 EST, N4829T@aol.com <N4829T@aol.com> wrote:
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> About the best 500 hours of my life!
>
> Jim(Launch Pad) Plumlee
>
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>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Yes, that is possible, but operating the spring loaded slide lock and moving
the gear handle at the same time might be somewhat of a challenge.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "D Zeman" <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Re: Gear Check
> --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
>
> Good point Dennis.
>
> I think it was Mr. Goolsby that suggested a
> spring-loaded locking latch mod - now that might be
> worth looking into.
>
> Regards,
> Zeman
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hours on type |
--> Yak-List message posted by: mark williamson <yakk52@verizon.net>
Zero hours. Somebody find me a cheap yak or a partner and maybe I can bump up that
number!!
-mark
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| Subject: | Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
We all have our own little mind games and tricks to hopefully stave off the
day when it's our turn in the barrel. Mine is to say out loud "GEAR DOWN"
as I lower the gear and then say "AND LOCKED" as I move the slide. In my
mind the slide IS the gear lock, and without it being in the closed position
the gear is unsafe and NOT locked. The slide is the lock, 3 greens are just
icing on the cake. Just another way to look at the process. It all is
dependant upon where your head is at, some guys fly HUA some do not.
We need a guy on the ramp with a digital camera, anyone caught with their
slide in the unlocked position buys a round of beers for the house that
night.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Re: Gear Check
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
Yes, that is possible, but operating the spring loaded slide lock and moving
the gear handle at the same time might be somewhat of a challenge.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "D Zeman" <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Re: Gear Check
> --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
>
> Good point Dennis.
>
> I think it was Mr. Goolsby that suggested a
> spring-loaded locking latch mod - now that might be
> worth looking into.
>
> Regards,
> Zeman
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
700+ Yak 52
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin
Subject: Yak-List: Hours on type
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
Gang,
As I approach the 10year mark of my love affair with this beautiful Chinese
mistress of mine, I am now figuring out how many hours I have shared with
her. I am quite curious has to what level of on type experience we as a
group have on our airplanes. Anyone ever tallied up their on-type time?
Dan
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Mark,
What's your idea of cheap? Answer back off list and I give a look around.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mark williamson
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hours on type
--> Yak-List message posted by: mark williamson <yakk52@verizon.net>
Zero hours. Somebody find me a cheap yak or a partner and maybe I can bump
up that number!!
-mark
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Thats what I like about formation flying, a good lead usually makes
the call for gear down, and another for gear check. And theres at
least # two to watch out for lead.
During a 4 ship of T-6's here a while back lead was on final with no
gear, 2 yelled "LEAD GEAR!" and lead popped them down on short final.
During the debrief lead thanked 2 and then reminded the flight that if
he bellied in, a good formation would have followed suit. :)
Ernie
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:01:57 -0800, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> We all have our own little mind games and tricks to hopefully stave off the
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| Subject: | Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Ernie thanks for the great quip on a well trained, disciplined formation
team. Buy a beer the next time for your favorite LEAD.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gear Checks and mind games
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Thats what I like about formation flying, a good lead usually makes
the call for gear down, and another for gear check. And theres at
least # two to watch out for lead.
During a 4 ship of T-6's here a while back lead was on final with no
gear, 2 yelled "LEAD GEAR!" and lead popped them down on short final.
During the debrief lead thanked 2 and then reminded the flight that if
he bellied in, a good formation would have followed suit. :)
Ernie
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:01:57 -0800, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> We all have our own little mind games and tricks to hopefully stave off
the
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| Subject: | Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
ART
I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next week
and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum spinner
now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired about
gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap.. Also
anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable and
fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
ART
209 962 7725
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Art,
I have a shipment coming into the port of Seattle on the 18th of this month,
it will have everything in it to overhaul your set of shutters. So if you
want Jim to do it, have him send me a list of part number for what he needs,
or box up the gills and send the whole thing up here.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ART STAVRO
Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to
sender
--> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
ART
I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next
week
and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum
spinner
now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired
about
gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap..
Also
anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable
and
fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
ART
209 962 7725
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
I went down this road myself...
Al @ Savage is the one.
By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto?
I mean really; who wants a wall-flower magneto.
You know what I mean?
Marsh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PHCarter@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
--> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent missing and
roughness
issues. I have similar long stories of trouble shooting, symptomology
(sp?),
and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and sparkplugs with
little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the ignition
harness.
Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be rebuilt and then
re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many people had
suggestions
on how to replace the ignition wire without removing the entire harness.
After
long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to remove the entire
harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great decision!
Removing
the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to re-install.
Re-building
the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding, re-plating metal
components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is not cheap
either. The
result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a beat since,
excellent
throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked up 5 to 10 kph
airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in Hayward CA (510)
782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would recommend
calling them
regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness. Share your
problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
Preston Carter (N6209F)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Thanks to everyone who replied to this - have already made the change to
US plugs, now for the wiring...
Will check the wiring as best I can prior to replacing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Marsh
> Sent: 07 January 2005 21:52 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
>
> I went down this road myself...
> Al @ Savage is the one.
> By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto?
> I mean really; who wants a wall-flower magneto.
> You know what I mean?
>
> Marsh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> PHCarter@aol.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
>
> Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent
> missing and roughness
> issues. I have similar long stories of trouble shooting,
> symptomology (sp?),
> and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and
> sparkplugs with
> little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the
> ignition harness.
> Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be
> rebuilt and then
>
> re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many
> people had suggestions
> on how to replace the ignition wire without removing the
> entire harness. After
> long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to
> remove the entire
> harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great
> decision! Removing
> the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to
> re-install. Re-building
> the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding, re-plating metal
> components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is
> not cheap either. The
> result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a
> beat since, excellent
> throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked
> up 5 to 10 kph
> airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in
> Hayward CA (510)
> 782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would
> recommend calling them
> regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness.
> Share your
> problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
>
> Preston Carter (N6209F)
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mags & ignition |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
If you're talking about the Champion REL37B's, they do not have the
longevity of the Russian plugs, are more expensive and are not the correct
heat range for the M14. They were the only 14mm aircraft spark plugs
available from Champion. That's how they ended up in the M14. At $32.50 a
piece, it's an extremely expensive change. Unless I'm mistaken, Aeromotors
(the builder of the new M14PF in Romania) is shipping with Russian plugs
again.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to this - have already made the change to
> US plugs, now for the wiring...
>
> Will check the wiring as best I can prior to replacing.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Marsh
> > Sent: 07 January 2005 21:52 PM
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
> >
> > I went down this road myself...
> > Al @ Savage is the one.
> > By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto?
> > I mean really; who wants a wall-flower magneto.
> > You know what I mean?
> >
> > Marsh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > PHCarter@aol.com
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
> >
> > Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent
> > missing and roughness
> > issues. I have similar long stories of trouble shooting,
> > symptomology (sp?),
> > and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and
> > sparkplugs with
> > little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the
> > ignition harness.
> > Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be
> > rebuilt and then
> >
> > re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many
> > people had suggestions
> > on how to replace the ignition wire without removing the
> > entire harness. After
> > long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to
> > remove the entire
> > harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great
> > decision! Removing
> > the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to
> > re-install. Re-building
> > the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding, re-plating metal
> > components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is
> > not cheap either. The
> > result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a
> > beat since, excellent
> > throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked
> > up 5 to 10 kph
> > airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in
> > Hayward CA (510)
> > 782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would
> > recommend calling them
> > regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness.
> > Share your
> > problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
> >
> > Preston Carter (N6209F)
> >
> >
> > =========
> > Matronics Forums.
> > =========
> > =========
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Does the spinnder fit on the Housai prop, and will it nessitate the
removal of the gill shutters?
Ernie
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:19, ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
>
> ART
>
> I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next week
> and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum spinner
> now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired about
> gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap..
Also
> anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable and
> fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
>
> ART
>
> 209 962 7725
>
> ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Ok Pappy, First rounds on me :)
Ernie
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:42:38 -0800, John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Ernie thanks for the great quip on a well trained, disciplined formation
> team. Buy a beer the next time for your favorite LEAD.
>
> John Cox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gear Checks and mind games
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Thats what I like about formation flying, a good lead usually makes
> the call for gear down, and another for gear check. And theres at
> least # two to watch out for lead.
>
> During a 4 ship of T-6's here a while back lead was on final with no
> gear, 2 yelled "LEAD GEAR!" and lead popped them down on short final.
> During the debrief lead thanked 2 and then reminded the flight that if
> he bellied in, a good formation would have followed suit. :)
>
> Ernie
>
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:01:57 -0800, Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
> >
> > We all have our own little mind games and tricks to hopefully stave off
> the
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
I also use the REL37B plugs and am quite happy with them. While I've not
worked with the Russian stuff, I don't plan to go back. The US plugs,
however require either a plug adaptor for the ignition lead nut (available
through Carl Hays) or US nuts. I've used the adapters and converted to the
US nuts when Savage rebuilt my harness.
Remember it's only money.
Marsh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
If you're talking about the Champion REL37B's, they do not have the
longevity of the Russian plugs, are more expensive and are not the correct
heat range for the M14. They were the only 14mm aircraft spark plugs
available from Champion. That's how they ended up in the M14. At $32.50 a
piece, it's an extremely expensive change. Unless I'm mistaken, Aeromotors
(the builder of the new M14PF in Romania) is shipping with Russian plugs
again.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
<jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied to this - have already made the change to
> US plugs, now for the wiring...
>
> Will check the wiring as best I can prior to replacing.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Marsh
> > Sent: 07 January 2005 21:52 PM
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> >
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
> >
> > I went down this road myself...
> > Al @ Savage is the one.
> > By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto?
> > I mean really; who wants a wall-flower magneto.
> > You know what I mean?
> >
> > Marsh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > PHCarter@aol.com
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
> >
> > Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent
> > missing and roughness
> > issues. I have similar long stories of trouble shooting,
> > symptomology (sp?),
> > and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and
> > sparkplugs with
> > little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the
> > ignition harness.
> > Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be
> > rebuilt and then
> >
> > re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many
> > people had suggestions
> > on how to replace the ignition wire without removing the
> > entire harness. After
> > long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to
> > remove the entire
> > harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great
> > decision! Removing
> > the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to
> > re-install. Re-building
> > the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding, re-plating metal
> > components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is
> > not cheap either. The
> > result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a
> > beat since, excellent
> > throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked
> > up 5 to 10 kph
> > airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in
> > Hayward CA (510)
> > 782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would
> > recommend calling them
> > regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness.
> > Share your
> > problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
> >
> > Preston Carter (N6209F)
> >
> >
> > =========
> > Matronics Forums.
> > =========
> > =========
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
YES IT DOES REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF THE SHUTTTERS AND THE STOCK PROP IS WHAT I AM
RUNNING NOW.. ART
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:28 , Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> sent:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez erniel29@gmail.com>
>
>Does the spinnder fit on the Housai prop, and will it nessitate the
>removal of the gill shutters?
>
>Ernie
>
>
>On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:19, ART STAVRO art79@cwnet.com> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO art79@cwnet.com>
>>
>> ART
>>
>> I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next
week
>> and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum spinner
>> now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired about
>> gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap..
Also
>> anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable and
>> fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
>>
>> ART
>>
>> 209 962 7725
>>
>> ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
HEY DOUG, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING , GILLS RODS KNOB NOTHIN.. ARE YOU GETTING ENOUGH
STUFF TO MAKE UP A BRAND NEW INSTALLATION?
ART
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44 , Doug Sapp <rvfltd@televar.com> sent:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" rvfltd@televar.com>
>
>Art,
>I have a shipment coming into the port of Seattle on the 18th of this month,
>it will have everything in it to overhaul your set of shutters. So if you
>want Jim to do it, have him send me a list of part number for what he needs,
>or box up the gills and send the whole thing up here.
>
>Always Yakin,
>Doug Sapp
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com','','','')">owner-yak-list-
server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ART STAVRO
>To: Yak-List@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to
>sender
>
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO art79@cwnet.com>
>
>ART
>
>
> I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next
>week
>and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum
>spinner
>now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired
>about
>gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap..
>Also
>anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable
>and
>fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
>
> ART
>
>209 962 7725
>
>
>---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Have you got a pic of how it looks? I may be interested in a trade
since in Florida I never use the shutters.
Ernie
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:55:37, ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO <art79@cwnet.com>
>
> YES IT DOES REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF THE SHUTTTERS AND THE STOCK PROP IS WHAT I
AM
> RUNNING NOW.. ART
>
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:28 , Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> sent:
>
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez erniel29@gmail.com>
> >
> >Does the spinnder fit on the Housai prop, and will it nessitate the
> >removal of the gill shutters?
> >
> >Ernie
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:15:19, ART STAVRO art79@cwnet.com> wrote:
> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: ART STAVRO art79@cwnet.com>
> >>
> >> ART
> >>
> >> I will be shutting my aircraft down for an anual over at Jim Selby's next
week
> >> and will be installing a gill louver set and removing the large aluminum spinner
> >> now on the bird. I received quite a few responses the last time I inquired
about
> >> gill louvers and would like to get a really clean new or restored set asap..
> Also
> >> anyone looking for a Les Crowder spinner can have this one at a reasonable
and
> >> fair price as soon as it comes off.. Talk at ya later..
> >>
> >> ART
> >>
> >> 209 962 7725
> >>
> >> ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rvfltd@televar.com writes:
We need a guy on the ramp with a digital camera, anyone caught with their
slide in the unlocked position buys a round of beers for the house that
night.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
NOW THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA! I'm bring my digital camera to AYS!
Pappy
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| Subject: | Gear Checks and mind games |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
rvfltd@televar.com writes:
We need a guy on the ramp with a digital camera, anyone caught with their
slide in the unlocked position buys a round of beers for the house that
night.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
NOW THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA! I'm bring my digital camera to AYS!
Pappy
**********
I thought so,....... now there are two of us :>(
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Hi Dennis
So what plugs are all you guys using? I have read posts about auto
plugs?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A.
> Dennis Savarese
> Sent: 07 January 2005 22:11 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>
> If you're talking about the Champion REL37B's, they do not
> have the longevity of the Russian plugs, are more expensive
> and are not the correct heat range for the M14. They were
> the only 14mm aircraft spark plugs
> available from Champion. That's how they ended up in the
> M14. At $32.50 a
> piece, it's an extremely expensive change. Unless I'm
> mistaken, Aeromotors (the builder of the new M14PF in
> Romania) is shipping with Russian plugs again. Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who replied to this - have already made
> the change
> > to US plugs, now for the wiring...
> >
> > Will check the wiring as best I can prior to replacing.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Ben Marsh
> > > Sent: 07 January 2005 21:52 PM
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
> > >
> > > I went down this road myself...
> > > Al @ Savage is the one.
> > > By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto? I mean
> > > really; who wants a wall-flower magneto. You know what I mean?
> > >
> > > Marsh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > > PHCarter@aol.com
> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
> > >
> > > Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent
> missing and
> > > roughness issues. I have similar long stories of trouble
> shooting,
> > > symptomology (sp?),
> > > and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and
> > > sparkplugs with
> > > little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the
> > > ignition harness.
> > > Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be
> > > rebuilt and then
> > >
> > > re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many
> people had
> > > suggestions on how to replace the ignition wire without
> removing the
> > > entire harness. After
> > > long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to
> > > remove the entire
> > > harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great
> > > decision! Removing
> > > the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to
> > > re-install. Re-building
> > > the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding,
> re-plating metal
> > > components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is
> > > not cheap either. The
> > > result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a
> > > beat since, excellent
> > > throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked
> > > up 5 to 10 kph
> > > airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in
> > > Hayward CA (510)
> > > 782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would
> > > recommend calling them
> > > regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness.
> > > Share your
> > > problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
> > >
> > > Preston Carter (N6209F)
> > >
> > >
> > > =========
> > > Matronics Forums.
> > > =========
> > > =========
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Dear Listers,
Tonight, Friday 1/7/2005 at 7pm PDT, I will be working with my Internet
Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be
re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the
Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name
Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should
work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours
or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate
into the depths of the Internet.
If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a
bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it
again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of
the update or around 8pm PDT.
Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even
notice! :-)
Thanks for your patience!
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Hours on type |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Just over 800... in 3 years.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Gang,
>
> As I approach the 10year mark of my love affair with this beautiful
> Chinese
> mistress of mine, I am now figuring out how many hours I have shared with
> her. I am quite curious has to what level of on type experience we as a
> group have on our airplanes. Anyone ever tallied up their on-type time?
>
> Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Important read this |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Second the motion to have it accept email address as member ID... the
password I can remember. A number, oh, there are WAY too many numbers
already in my life! :-)
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Drew Blahnick <lacloudchaser@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> The RPA currently uses a non-changing "Member ID" and password - we are
> making changes to make life simple for dues paying members based on your
> suggestions.
>
> We received a very good suggestion to use your email address as your
> member ID and retain a password of your choosing - great suggestion, much
> of the web is moving this direction and so can we. This has of course an
> added benefit; it will also insure you keep your email address up to date
> with us which drives all RPA-Member communication.
>
> Again, this system will retain a password field of your choice. I need
> you to email us at admin@flyredstar.org, not to the yak list, if you have
> any further feedback or suggestions, positive or negative on this before
> we make the code changes tomorrow. It is very important that you visit
> account administration and update your email address, as incorrect data
> will cost additional volunteer manhours.
>
> Please be aware, at this time I will not have the new membership cards
> printed with your password on them; I am wary of folks who use common
> passwords for other non-RPA uses and do not want to aid in accidental
> disclosure issues that could harm our members. If you have comments on
> this, please include them to us at admin.
>
> Drew
>
> Drew Blahnick
> RPA
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hours on type |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Since buying the -52 in '96-98 350 hrs
Yak-55 200 hrs 98-2000
Sukhoi-29 550 hrs 2000 - present
May a few dozen of those straight and level
Ricky B
>>> jon@email.net 1/7/2005 6:15:12 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Just over 800... in 3 years.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin"
<fougapilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Gang,
>
> As I approach the 10year mark of my love affair with this beautiful
> Chinese
> mistress of mine, I am now figuring out how many hours I have shared
with
> her. I am quite curious has to what level of on type experience we
as a
> group have on our airplanes. Anyone ever tallied up their on-type
time?
>
> Dan
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| Subject: | Oil Temperatures |
FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS@matronics.com, From:, contains@matronics.com,
numbers@matronics.com, mixed@matronics.com, in@matronics.com,
with@matronics.com, letters@matronics.com, 1.78@matronics.com,
FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS3@matronics.com, From:, contains@matronics.com,
numbers@matronics.com, mixed@matronics.com, in@matronics.com,
with@matronics.com, letters@matronics.com
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Just curious what the general population is seeing out there regarding oil
temperatures. I have a stock CJ and I'm on a first run of Phillips 20w60. I'm
consistently showing 78-80 degrees C into the oil cooler and 30-32 degrees C
out of the cooler. My main question is whether a 48 degree spread is OK. I
haven't calibrated the probe in a long, long time, and with the new to me multi
weight oil I have not been able to get the temp much above those numbers.
Yes, I know the ambient temps are lower this time of year but I'm just wondering
if I'm missing something here. The other airplanes I fly don't show in&out
temps, so I guess too much information can be a bad thing :)
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Mags & ignition |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Martyn" <vertigo@whidbey.net>
- Bosch Platinum Auto Plugs (Stock #4236) @ $1.99each.
- 8mm Silicone Performance Auto Wires, heat-sleeved & safety wired.
- #2 Mag converted to HEI ignition, computer-controlled timing.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Dennis
>
> So what plugs are all you guys using? I have read posts about auto
> plugs?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A.
>> Dennis Savarese
>> Sent: 07 January 2005 22:11 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>>
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar@gte.net>
>>
>> If you're talking about the Champion REL37B's, they do not
>> have the longevity of the Russian plugs, are more expensive
>> and are not the correct heat range for the M14. They were
>> the only 14mm aircraft spark plugs
>> available from Champion. That's how they ended up in the
>> M14. At $32.50 a
>> piece, it's an extremely expensive change. Unless I'm
>> mistaken, Aeromotors (the builder of the new M14PF in
>> Romania) is shipping with Russian plugs again. Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>>
>>
>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
>> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>> >
>> > Thanks to everyone who replied to this - have already made
>> the change
>> > to US plugs, now for the wiring...
>> >
>> > Will check the wiring as best I can prior to replacing.
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Ben Marsh
>> > > Sent: 07 January 2005 21:52 PM
>> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
>> > >
>> > > I went down this road myself...
>> > > Al @ Savage is the one.
>> > > By the way, it is not an outstanding name, Savage Magneto? I mean
>> > > really; who wants a wall-flower magneto. You know what I mean?
>> > >
>> > > Marsh
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> > > PHCarter@aol.com
>> > > To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
>> > >
>> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
>> > >
>> > > Recently bought a Yak-52 which had similar intermittent
>> missing and
>> > > roughness issues. I have similar long stories of trouble
>> shooting,
>> > > symptomology (sp?),
>> > > and working theories. Replaced magneto caps, rotor, and
>> > > sparkplugs with
>> > > little or no improvement. In the end things pointed at the
>> > > ignition harness.
>> > > Replacing the entire harness, or at least removing it to be
>> > > rebuilt and then
>> > >
>> > > re-installed, is very time consuming and not cheap. Many
>> people had
>> > > suggestions on how to replace the ignition wire without
>> removing the
>> > > entire harness. After
>> > > long thought, and several fearful flights, I decided to
>> > > remove the entire
>> > > harness and have it rebuilt during annual. It was a great
>> > > decision! Removing
>> > > the harness takes about 8 hours and another 8 hours to
>> > > re-install. Re-building
>> > > the harness (replacing wire, insultation, shielding,
>> re-plating metal
>> > > components, up-grade plug connections to US plugs, etc.) is
>> > > not cheap either. The
>> > > result was a much smoother running engine, has not missed a
>> > > beat since, excellent
>> > > throttle response, quicker starting, and more power (picked
>> > > up 5 to 10 kph
>> > > airspeed cruise). I recommend calling Savage Magneto in
>> > > Hayward CA (510)
>> > > 782-7081 . They do great work and know their stuff. I would
>> > > recommend calling them
>> > > regardless if you are thinking about replacing the harness.
>> > > Share your
>> > > problems with "Al", he may be able to give you some advice.
>> > >
>> > > Preston Carter (N6209F)
>> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temperatures |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Hi Mark;
There are two grades of Phillips multi-grade; 20W50 and 25W60. I assume you
are referring to 25W60.
Oil IN (i.e.: oil entering the engine, not the cooler) temperature should be
50 to 65 degs.C during normal operation. Minimum temp is 30 degs.C and this
should be reached before run-up. I look for at least 40 degs. for run-up but
that is not a CJ manual requirement (It is a Pratt & Whitney spec.). At
least 30 degs. is specified in the CJ manual and you should NEVER apply full
power below that.
Maximum continuous is 75 degs with an allowance of 85 degs. for not over 15
minutes.
The maximum oil OUT (oil just leaving the engine) temperature is 125 degs.C.
I would normally expect about a 30 degs. difference between in and out
temps. If you are operating in a cold area you need to control the airflow
through the cooler by restricting the entrance area and make sure the exit
is almost, but not quite, fully closed when the control is in that position.
The temps. you describe indicate excessive cooling is taking place which
would of course increase the differential between in and out temperatures.
As noted temps. are measured at the engine, not the oil cooler. In the CJ
the oil travels a long way to and from the cooler and cooling is taking
place while it's doing that.
Monitoring of oil out temperature has never been a requirement in Western
aircraft. It is monitored during test and break-in running of new or
overhauled engines.
Walt
Subject: Yak-List: Oil Temperatures
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
>
> Just curious what the general population is seeing out there regarding oil
> temperatures. I have a stock CJ and I'm on a first run of Phillips 20w60.
I'm
> consistently showing 78-80 degrees C into the oil cooler and 30-32 degrees
C
> out of the cooler. My main question is whether a 48 degree spread is OK.
I
> haven't calibrated the probe in a long, long time, and with the new to me
multi
> weight oil I have not been able to get the temp much above those numbers.
> Yes, I know the ambient temps are lower this time of year but I'm just
wondering
> if I'm missing something here. The other airplanes I fly don't show
in&out
> temps, so I guess too much information can be a bad thing :)
>
> Mark
>
>
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