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1. 06:25 AM - Re: Spitfire Ace (Ernest Martinez)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: Mags & ignition (Ben Marsh)
3. 07:36 AM - Seat Harness (Ernest Martinez)
4. 07:45 AM - Re: Seat Harness (Terry Calloway)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Seat Harness (Daniel Fortin)
6. 09:22 AM - Stainless Steel Screws (Ross Bausone)
7. 10:18 AM - Re: Stainless Steel Screws (Doug Sapp)
8. 10:26 AM - stainless steel screws (Frank Stelwagon)
9. 10:26 AM - Yak 50 Gear Actuator seals available in Louisville, KY. (Dean Courtney)
10. 10:29 AM - Stainless screws (dean)
11. 12:54 PM - Re: Seat Harness (ByronMFox@aol.com)
12. 05:06 PM - Re: Stainless Steel Screws (A. Dennis Savarese)
13. 05:06 PM - Re: Stainless Steel Screws (A. Dennis Savarese)
14. 05:10 PM - Re: Stainless screws (A. Dennis Savarese)
15. 09:18 PM - Get out or you're dead! (Frank Haertlein)
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| Subject: | Re: Spitfire Ace |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
I watched the whole thing, was more of the history of the Battle of
Britain than anything else (which isnt a bad thing) the reality thing
was kinda bogus though. 9 hours of combat training consisted of a loop
a half cuban and an aileron roll as a GIB in a 2 seat version Spit. I
think there may have been a whole 20 min of "New kid learns to fly
Spitfire footage" during the 4 hour presentation (1.5 hours of
commercials)
Ernie
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:07:48 -0500, Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
>
> Ladies and Gents,
> Tonight on the History channel there is a reality TV show called Spitfire
> Ace. Four lucky bastards compete for nine hours of training in a Spitfire.
> It is on the History Channel and starts at 8:00pm EST. Those in CA better
> set those Tivo units to record it.
>
> BTW bought my Dynon D10A today for the SP-91 :))))
>
> Enjoy
>
> Gus
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ben Marsh" <ben@designselect.net>
Greetings,
Again, I concur. I too tested my harness with high tension on the
ground. It was only at 100 kts. and 100' AGL, with the gear coming up that
I came to know that sinking feeling, the true meaning of high tension
testing.
SAVAGE MAGNITO!!!
Re all the banter on plugs, I maintain that the REL37B is a fine
sparkler. Sure, they are expensive, but I've never had a problem with them.
And, I put a fair amount of time on my '52 throughout the year, for a few
years now. As for the money, who got into aviation to save bread? Alas, I
am not a purest.
Regards,
Marsh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PHCarter@aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Mags & ignition
--> Yak-List message posted by: PHCarter@aol.com
The hard thing about checking the ignition harness is that it usually checks
out okay. I my case the missing occurred only after some time in the air.
I
thought at first it was heat relayed. There was also a relationship with
moisture that was not very consistent. After we took the harness off and
tested
it at Savage (I wanted to make sure I was not spending my money on the wrong
fix) it was clear the harness was not performing well, but it was not
clearly
the smoking gun I wanted to see. Upon disassembly of the harness we found
alot
of moisture in the wiring and alot of rubber components braking down. After
the fact, I am convienced the harness was bad and I made the right
investment,
but before we started to taking the harness apart, the testing of the
harness
was inconclusive and I was nervous. Just my experience, hope things are
clearer for you.
Preston Carter N6209F
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Who can recommend a good harness for the CJ. I have these British
units and the tensioners on them stink. I'm ready to buy something a
little better.
Also Just to start another lively banter. What are some of the
settings (MP/RPM) that most people fly the CJ with stock Housai for:
A. Cruise
B. Acro.
C. Formation
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Seat Harness |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
>Who can recommend a good harness for the CJ. I have these British
>units and the tensioners on them stink. I'm ready to buy something a
>little better.
Hooker, Hooker, Hooker. nuff said.
Call them at 815.233.5478. They know all about the CJ.
I recommend the ratchet belt for acro with the gel-filled padding.
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| Subject: | Re: Seat Harness |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
I concur. Hooker is simply the best. If they'd let me, I have one in my
car...
D
>From: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Seat Harness
>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:45:26 -0600
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway"
><tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
>
> >Who can recommend a good harness for the CJ. I have these British
> >units and the tensioners on them stink. I'm ready to buy something a
> >little better.
>
>
>Hooker, Hooker, Hooker. nuff said.
>Call them at 815.233.5478. They know all about the CJ.
>I recommend the ratchet belt for acro with the gel-filled padding.
>
>
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| Subject: | Stainless Steel Screws |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:21:33 -0800
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Can anyone provide the specifications of the Screws used in the fuselage inspection
panels?
I have found two different size shafts and heads, both are Phillips head (not sure
of the curve description of the head). I also do not know the thread count.
I believe these are metric screws. They are Stainless Steel.
I need to find replacement screws, and the San Jose, CA (USA) based fastener supplier
requires a minimum purchase of 1000 each to supply. I need 20-30...
I thought it would be easier to shop for these if I at least had the correct description.
If anyone has a reliable source, that would also be helpful.
I would like both the screw info, and the supplier info. (Academic interest in
understanding what I'm getting, I guess)...
Kind regards,
Ross Bausone
Yak N254YK
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| Subject: | Stainless Steel Screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Ross,
I carry 4,5, and 6mm stainless steel screws for the Yaks and CJ's. Contact
me off list.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
Subject: Yak-List: Stainless Steel Screws
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Can anyone provide the specifications of the Screws used in the fuselage
inspection panels?
I have found two different size shafts and heads, both are Phillips head
(not sure of the curve description of the head). I also do not know the
thread count. I believe these are metric screws. They are Stainless Steel.
I need to find replacement screws, and the San Jose, CA (USA) based fastener
supplier requires a minimum purchase of 1000 each to supply. I need 20-30...
I thought it would be easier to shop for these if I at least had the correct
description.
If anyone has a reliable source, that would also be helpful.
I would like both the screw info, and the supplier info. (Academic interest
in understanding what I'm getting, I guess)...
Kind regards,
Ross Bausone
Yak N254YK
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| Subject: | stainless steel screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
Mr. Metric in San Jose, located off of Tenth street north of Hedding will sell
you any quantity you need> I don't have their phone or address but they are in
the book,
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| Subject: | Yak 50 Gear Actuator seals available in Louisville, KY. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
Gents,
Contact:
Tim Foster- Foster Hydraulics
7800 Johnstown Road
Louisville, KY. 40272
502-937-1666
tfosterfhi@mindspring.com
Tim is a pilot, and owner of the business, he helps on 2 50's and a Yak 11.
It is a full service Hyd & Pneumatic shop, in fact he can replicate your
actuators on his CNC equipment if you want to get that involved! Send him
your actuators and he will overhaul them using new seals, chevrons,
everything, for about $200 using his labor.
Cheers,
Dean Courtney Yak 50 84-2805
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| Subject: | Stainless screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "dean" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
www.yakmetric.com
They have stainless kits for the Yak. I will have to check to see what size goes
where. I want to say they are M3 & 4.
Dean
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| Subject: | Re: Seat Harness |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com
My CJ was equipped by the prior owner with an umpteen point Hooker harness
with a ratchet to tighten the lap belt. Takes 30 minutes to get into and
weighs a ton, but boy am I secure. Hope I never have to get out of it in arush.
Check with Allen Silver, our erstwhile West Coast parachute packer and All
Red Star lecturer. Allen makes, or represents, a harness with the Hooker's good
qualities but without the bulk. Silver Parachure Sales (
http://www.pia.com/silver/)
CJ power settings with Housai:
Cruise: 700 whatzits & 2100 rpm
Acro: Full power & 2200 rpm at 3000' to 5000' agl
Formation: See chapter 4, page 14 of the Formation Manual, V 1.1
...Blitz
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| Subject: | Re: Stainless Steel Screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM>
They are called Truss Head, Philips, Stainless Steel. Standard thread 4 mm
and 5 mm are the norm. Usually about 14 mm in length works for both. For
smaller quantities, you can either contact Carl or Jill Hays in San Diego,
858-292-7222 or Metric Screw and Tool Company,
http://www.metricscrew-toolco.com/. Don't forget to put nylon flat washers
underneath the heads. It will save your paint.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Stainless Steel Screws
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
<WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
> Can anyone provide the specifications of the Screws used in the fuselage
inspection panels?
>
> I have found two different size shafts and heads, both are Phillips head
(not sure of the curve description of the head). I also do not know the
thread count. I believe these are metric screws. They are Stainless Steel.
>
> I need to find replacement screws, and the San Jose, CA (USA) based
fastener supplier requires a minimum purchase of 1000 each to supply. I need
20-30...
>
> I thought it would be easier to shop for these if I at least had the
correct description.
>
> If anyone has a reliable source, that would also be helpful.
>
> I would like both the screw info, and the supplier info. (Academic
interest in understanding what I'm getting, I guess)...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ross Bausone
> Yak N254YK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stainless Steel Screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM>
Woops Doug, I am so sorry. I forgot to mention you carry them too. Me bad.
:(
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Stainless Steel Screws
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
>
> Ross,
> I carry 4,5, and 6mm stainless steel screws for the Yaks and CJ's.
Contact
> me off list.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Stainless Steel Screws
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ross Bausone"
> <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing@msn.com>
>
> Can anyone provide the specifications of the Screws used in the fuselage
> inspection panels?
>
> I have found two different size shafts and heads, both are Phillips head
> (not sure of the curve description of the head). I also do not know the
> thread count. I believe these are metric screws. They are Stainless Steel.
>
> I need to find replacement screws, and the San Jose, CA (USA) based
fastener
> supplier requires a minimum purchase of 1000 each to supply. I need
20-30...
>
> I thought it would be easier to shop for these if I at least had the
correct
> description.
>
> If anyone has a reliable source, that would also be helpful.
>
> I would like both the screw info, and the supplier info. (Academic
interest
> in understanding what I'm getting, I guess)...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ross Bausone
> Yak N254YK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stainless screws |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM>
Don't bother buying the "kit". It's a total waste. You'll only use about
1/10 of the stuff in the kit. Ask someone who has bought the kit. Do you
use 4 mm x 6 or 8 mm Truss head, Philips screws? I don't know of anywhere
on the airplane you would. Seriously! Buy the screws you need.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "dean" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Stainless screws
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "dean" <deancourtney696@hotmail.com>
>
> www.yakmetric.com
>
> They have stainless kits for the Yak. I will have to check to see what
size goes where. I want to say they are M3 & 4.
> Dean
>
>
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| Subject: | Get out or you're dead! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Getting out!
Yakinators...............
Just got my new chutes and tried them out in the 52. They are very
comfortable and allow freedom of movement for all normal cockpit
functions.
There seems to be a problem though. As someone on this list previously
suggested, "you should put on your chute and practice getting in and out
of your airplane".
For me, getting in isn't the problem, it's getting out! With 17 pounds
of chute strapped to my a$$ while its harnessed over the shoulders and
thighs it would seem that the chute backing (the part that connects the
seat-pack with the shoulder straps) works to inhibit my ability to get
out of the plane. Maybe there's some technique here I'm unaware of.
Getting out without the chute is easy enough. It's when I try to get out
with the chute that it seems the backing works to seriously inhibit my
ability to raise myself up and out of the seat.
We've all read or heard about the T-34 guys going in with their birds
even though they had chutes. As suggested, the FAA implies that the
right wing of both airplanes wrapped themselves over the canopy. This
suggests the pilots were unable to get out as they were blocked by the
wing. Realistically, there is no way for the FAA to know this for sure.
I'm not entirely convinced that, in both cases, the right wings wrapping
themselves around the canopy and thus served to inhibit their leaving
the airplane.
I suspect it may be difficult, yeah near impossible, to get out of an
airplane with a wing missing. Could it be that the gyroscopic forces may
be enough to "pin" you in? Couple that with a chute that makes it more
difficult to lift yourself out of the seat and I wonder if it's at all
possible to save yourself while twirling around without a wing. Just
what is the truth here?
Given that getting out of a twirling airplane is difficult enough, just
how much does the type of chute you have enter into that equation? My
gut instinct is that the seat pack chute will make it more difficult
than other types of chute designs to get out of the airplane.
Keep in mind that I realize the unlikelihood of a 52 wing breaking but
there is always that remote chance.......especially so with the T-34 or
CJ6 gumps.
Your opinion is welcome!
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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