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Fri 01/14/05


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 01:11 AM - bail out (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
     2. 07:49 AM -  (Tim Gagnon)
     3. 12:57 PM - Re: Yak 55M Question (Rick Basiliere)
     4. 11:20 PM - Re: Bail Out (Mike Beresford)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:11:20 AM PST US
    From: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com>
    Subject: bail out
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com> and afterwards he was flying again commercially with 100's of pax behind him at his day job within a few hours I'm told. !!!! bailouts are rare along with ejections from jets, the reason is certainly down to mental preparation. For example a Folland Knat recently did a dead stick in a field after the instructions given to the passenger to EJECT refused to do so. The pilot then had to try a field landing, luckly they both survived. be prepaired, think rationaly under pressure. Strong parachutes have just saved a man (was)in a starduster or similare that fell appart at altitude, he jumped at low level and was under the inflated canopy for 3 seconds!! MJ Successful (non-glider) bailouts are extremely rare, I agree, but I still like the option even so. Here's one from the UK not so long ago, proving that a disciplined attitude can make all the difference: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_500352.pdf To open a new 'front', what about ditching. A number of my ex-military chums say that they would rather bail than ditch. Would a YAK 50 (my toy) or '52/CJ go straight under? My preference would be to find out, rather than try and swim with an acre of canopy and yards of paracord attached. Your thoughts gentlemen? Best regards, Mark www.yakuk.com +44 (0)1767 651156 office +44 (0)7785 538 317 mobile


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    Time: 07:49:33 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
    Subject:
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:33:39 -0500 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> >> It is necessary to redesign safety covers of the cables of the >> rudder flight >> control in order to achieve higher flight safety standards. >> >> For this purpose, removal and modification of the safety covers >> should be >> performed on all "YAK-50" and "YAK-52" aircraft as per the attached >> sketch. Yeah..count me in too! Could you pass along the sketch?? Tim Gagnon Yak-50 NiftyYak50@msn.com


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    Time: 12:57:36 PM PST US
    From: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Yak 55M Question
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net> I have seen a picture of Azat Zaydullin flying inverted over Kiev with his wigman - with the canopy open. I have flown my Longwing with the canopy open - some flutter of the canopy but no problems -----Original Message----- From: Ron Spencer <splitimage.wing@verizon.net> Subject: Yak-List: Yak 55M Question --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Spencer" <splitimage.wing@verizon.net> Has any body ever flown with the canopy open? There does not appear to be any limits other than "Canopy Closed" in the 55M manuals.


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    Time: 11:20:29 PM PST US
    From: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Bail Out
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk> Hi all David H wrote: "Would a thin back pack chute in a Yak 52 be ok? If it would be a good fit, possibly easier egress?" My Yak arrived without any seat parachutes. I prefer having a parachute available for aerobatics, so I looked around at the various options. In the end I decided to investigate the backpack option. I was swayed in this by a little bit of skydiving experience. With the backpack I was able to get a "square" canopy with a freebag deployment system. The packs were designed and built here in South Africa by Chris Dales of Chute Shop. Chute Shop is a manufacturer of sports skydiving equipment, with exports to the States - might be known to some of you. For those who are familiar with skydiving rigs, the pack is fitted with a 250 sq ft "Decelerator" 7 cell canopy. This is basically a standard reserve canopy used by students. I did consider getting a smaller canopy (I normally jump with a 150 sq ft Sabre), but I wanted the canopies to be usable by inexperienced (non experienced) people. I've seen skydiving students who have "frozen" after deployment, and failed to control their canopies in any way. The larger canopies minimise the risk of injury on landing, even without control inputs. The harness system is basically standard skydiving rig, including the reserve system. The straps are fitted with clip links for easy removal. No cutaway fitted - might be a problem in a water landing, but the straps themsleves have quick release clips. The container is about the same length as a normal skydiving rig, but since it only houses one canopy it is somewhat thinner. Chris even stitched a red star onto the strap covers ;-) Chris came out to the aircraft to do the measurements, and to make suggestions. They then sent me a prototype, which I found to be slightly too long. They modified the prototype, and when this proved satisfactory I ordered a second one. I'm very happy with my rig, but have found a problem with other users. When Chris came out to see the cockpit and make suggestions, we were sitting in the front cockpit. Apart from one flight a few years back, I've never sat in the rear cockpit. I didn't realise that the rear cockpit is shorter than the front. People in the rear cockpit complain that they can't use the rudder pedals properly, as their knees are "up around their ears". I've already got the rudder on full forward position. It seems that I might have to revert to a seat parachute for the rear cockpit. Blue skies Mike Beresford South Africa --- NapeOne@aol.com wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: NapeOne@aol.com > > Would a thin back pack chute in a Yak 52 be ok? If > it would be a good fit, > possibly easier egress? > David H. > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > >




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