Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:52 AM - CJ RUDDER TRAVEL (Kelley Monroe)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: automotive oil (Jim Bernier)
3. 06:20 AM - Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL (Brian Lloyd)
4. 06:52 AM - Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL (Terry Calloway)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Rich Hess (Ernest Martinez)
6. 07:37 AM - T-shirt (Barry Hancock)
7. 07:37 AM - SP-91 (Barry Hancock)
8. 08:29 AM - Re: SP-91 (Gus Fraser)
9. 09:16 AM - Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL (Walt Lannon)
10. 09:50 AM - Re: RPA FAST Card Renewal and Membership Notice (Ira Saligman)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: RPA FAST Card Renewal and Membership Notice (YakL1@aol.com)
12. 08:14 PM - Re: Cold weather starting procedure (Ron Davis)
13. 08:29 PM - Re: Cold weather starting procedure (Gus Fraser)
14. 08:34 PM - Re: Cold weather starting procedure (Gus Fraser)
15. 08:49 PM - Re: Cold weather starting procedure (Ron Davis)
16. 08:59 PM - Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL (Walt Lannon)
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| Subject: | CJ RUDDER TRAVEL |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
Does any know the rudder travel for a CJ? The book says 25 degrees. But how many
inches of travel?
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| Subject: | Re: automotive oil |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Searching the web, I came across this site on motor oils and additives.
It's an eye opener.
www.baileycar.com/oil_overview_html.htm
Enjoy, if you have the time.
Jim B
>>> erniel29@gmail.com 1/20/2005 9:19:17 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Excerpt from
http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jspbodyPage=/support/publications/keyReprints/operation/tips.html
QUESTION Is there really any difference between good automotive oil
and aviation oil?
ANSWER Yes indeed there is! Don't ever use automotive oil in your
aircraft engine. These oils are now blended for use with unleaded
fuels, and the additives in auto oil cause problems in an aircraft
engine that operates at much higher temperatures than the automobile
engine. We have encountered engines with holes burned in pistons due
to the use of automotive oils that have an ash deposit causing
preignition. It seems awfully hard to convince people who have had
great success with the oil used in their car that it may not be used
in their aircraft engine.
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:34:27 -0600 (CST), Jon Boede <jon@email.net>
wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> What's the difference between automotive oil and aviation oil?
>
> Why would it be unwise to put Penzoil 10W50 in my CJ?
>
> (not that I've done this, just curious)
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Kelley Monroe wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> Does any know the rudder travel for a CJ? The book says 25 degrees.
> But how many inches of travel?
You can figure it out pretty easily. 25 degrees would be 12.5 degrees
either side of center (that seems awfully small to me so perhaps it is
25 degrees center to full deflection). So you end up with a right
triangle with a 12.5 degree apex. Therefore the distance from center to
full travel on either side would be given by two times the arctangent
of 12.5 degrees times the distance from the hinge axis to the trailing
edge of the rudder.
total-travel = 2 * (atan(12.5) * distance-to-trailing-edge)
Since the trailing edge of the rudder is not parallel to the rotation
axis, the distance traveled will depend on where you measure it.
Regardless, the above formula will work in all cases if you take the
measurement from the hinge to the trailing edge. Be sure you measure
perpendicular to the hinge axis.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <tcalloway@datatechnique.com>
Good one Brian!
tc
>>> brianl@lloyd.com 1/21/2005 8:17:44 AM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Kelley Monroe wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe"
<kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> Does any know the rudder travel for a CJ? The book says 25 degrees.
> But how many inches of travel?
You can figure it out pretty easily. 25 degrees would be 12.5 degrees
either side of center (that seems awfully small to me so perhaps it is
25 degrees center to full deflection). So you end up with a right
triangle with a 12.5 degree apex. Therefore the distance from center to
full travel on either side would be given by two times the arctangent
of 12.5 degrees times the distance from the hinge axis to the trailing
edge of the rudder.
total-travel = 2 * (atan(12.5) * distance-to-trailing-edge)
Since the trailing edge of the rudder is not parallel to the rotation
axis, the distance traveled will depend on where you measure it.
Regardless, the above formula will work in all cases if you take the
measurement from the hinge to the trailing edge. Be sure you measure
perpendicular to the hinge axis.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . .
.
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
We get 2 bill every year, one for the runway the other for the association.
Runway $225
Asscociation $437
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:47:12 EST, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/20/2005 8:40:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> erniel29@gmail.com writes:
> Can someone give me Rich Hess's phone number offline please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ernie
> Ernie. Try 770-975-8328 & 404-964-4885 for Hess.
>
> BTW what's the annual dues over there at Leeward?
>
> Pappy
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On Jan 20, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Gus wrote:
> Maybe it's time for a new T Shirt to be made
>
> "Better off red than dead, Get a Yak or a CJ, you know it makes sense
> !"
>
> Gus
LOL! The new T-shirt at All Red Star this year was going to depict a
CJ on the tail of a T-34 and a Yak on the tail of a T-6....."Taking
over the skies on T-arget at a time!" Perhaps the graphics will need
to be revised to show strafing of the T-34 on the ramp!
Barry (screw politically correct!) Hancock
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On Jan 20, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Gus wrote:
> Gus
> Coolest little SP-91 in the world.
What the heck is an SP-91? Is that anything like an SP-95?
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Identical
...... Original Message .......
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:27:11 -0800 Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
>
>
>On Jan 20, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Gus wrote:
>
>> Gus
>> Coolest little SP-91 in the world.
>
>What the heck is an SP-91? Is that anything like an SP-95?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Kelly;
25 degs. -1/+0 or 257 -11/+0 mm at the trailing edge of rib #3 which is the
centre hinge rib.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> Does any know the rudder travel for a CJ? The book says 25 degrees. But
how many inches of travel?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPA FAST Card Renewal and Membership Notice |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
I am writing this note as the new Treasurer of Red Star.
A large part of my responsibility is to track who's membership and FAST
dues are current.
In addition to the improvements that Deon, Drew,AMy and the others added to
the web site we changed credit card systems and banks. It is possible that
in the changes, some information didn't port over properly.
If you suspect an error in your account (usually not showing up to date) or
have any other questions, please contact me and I will sort it out.
If you need the new member or renewal form, I can send you that too.
Ira Saligman
Treasurer
Red Star Pilots Association
200 Chamounix Road
Wayne, PA 19087
o 610 225 8421
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
h 610 688 5355
Treasurer@flyredstar.org
<mailto:Tresaurer@flyredstar.org>
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| Subject: | Re: RPA FAST Card Renewal and Membership Notice |
--> Yak-List message posted by: YakL1@aol.com
Ira:
I never got a FAST card for this last year, tho' I am already a wingman and
flew in multiple 4-ships at last years RedStar.
John Zecherle
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting procedure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
A heat lamp would heat the engine, but there's a downside. Heat lamps are
incandescent filaments in a thin glass bulb. One drop of anything on a hot
bulb will shatter it. Then the filament burns and if there is anything
flamable around (gasoline spings to mind here) then a large conflagration
will follow.
Something less dangerous would be better.
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| Subject: | Cold weather starting procedure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
How about these
http://www.1066.net/southernaviaries/brio.htm
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cold weather starting procedure
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
A heat lamp would heat the engine, but there's a downside. Heat lamps are
incandescent filaments in a thin glass bulb. One drop of anything on a hot
bulb will shatter it. Then the filament burns and if there is anything
flamable around (gasoline spings to mind here) then a large conflagration
will follow.
Something less dangerous would be better.
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| Subject: | Cold weather starting procedure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
Sorry I meant
http://www.infraredheaters.com/eselong.htm
The previous link only supplies 240V units
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Davis
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Cold weather starting procedure
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
A heat lamp would heat the engine, but there's a downside. Heat lamps are
incandescent filaments in a thin glass bulb. One drop of anything on a hot
bulb will shatter it. Then the filament burns and if there is anything
flamable around (gasoline spings to mind here) then a large conflagration
will follow.
Something less dangerous would be better.
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather starting procedure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
It says splashproof, so that would definitely be better than a normal heat
lamp.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Kelly;
Further to my post this AM the measurement I gave is taken at rudder rib #1
which is the bottom of the rudder not rib #3 as I stated.
I guess I could say that was a test to see if anyone was paying attention
but the truth is I screwed up in interpreting Note 2 of Fig. 1.4 (Tech.
Specifications page 6a)
Cheers;
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon@cablerocket.com>
>
> Kelly;
>
> 25 degs. -1/+0 or 257 -11/+0 mm at the trailing edge of rib #3 which is
the
> centre hinge rib.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
> To: "Yak List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: CJ RUDDER TRAVEL
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
> >
> > Does any know the rudder travel for a CJ? The book says 25 degrees. But
> how many inches of travel?
> >
> >
>
>
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