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1. 04:16 AM - Re: Re: 20W50 vs 20W60 (Brian Lloyd)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: Re: 20W50 vs 20W60 (Gus Fraser)
3. 05:30 AM - What is a warbird? (Richard Goode)
4. 06:14 AM - Alex Zuyev Facts (yakparts@simplyweb.net)
5. 06:59 AM - Warbird or not Warbird..... (Tim Gagnon)
6. 07:15 AM - Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience (Ira Saligman)
7. 07:25 AM - Looking for radio/intercom panel experience (Ira Saligman)
8. 07:40 AM - Re: Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience (Brian Lloyd)
9. 07:51 AM - Re: Looking for radio/intercom panel experience (Brian Lloyd)
10. 08:17 AM - Re: Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience (A. Dennis Savarese)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: 20W50 vs 20W60 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
PeteAbbott@aol.com wrote:
> What do you guys think about the difference between the two. The wholesale
> supplier will order me the 60 but I have to purchase a larger amount while he
> stocks the 50.
I used 20W50 in my Huosai for several years and it worked just fine. I
only switched when I got a source of 25W60 for a much better price.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: 20W50 vs 20W60 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
I buy in bulk. In the next town to me is a bulk oil dealer who sells 55
gals of 25w60 for about $350, just one of the advantages of living in the
Garden state. The oil dealers name is Neslo
http://neslopetroleum.com/products.html
I am not sure what shipping costs are because they deliver to me. Hope this
helps
Gus
...... Original Message .......
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:15:02 -0400 Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
>PeteAbbott@aol.com wrote:
>> What do you guys think about the difference between the two. The
wholesale
>> supplier will order me the 60 but I have to purchase a larger amount
while he
>> stocks the 50.
>
>I used 20W50 in my Huosai for several years and it worked just fine. I
>only switched when I got a source of 25W60 for a much better price.
>
>--
>Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
>brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
>http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
>+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
>There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
>A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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| Subject: | What is a warbird? |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
It is difficult for me to understand the level of interest in this definition.
Does this control where you park at air shows etc?
In a number of European countries, this is an issue of REAL significance. In the
UK, for example, we can only fly Yak-50/52/55 on the basis that they ARE "ex-military."
Hence this issue has been examined in very considerable detail.=20
It is completely incorrect to say that "DOSAAF" was NOT a military organisation.
It most certainly was by any definition. Importantly:
=D8 All DOSAAF aircraft were designed to military requirements and specifications.
=D8 Orders were placed directly by military entities.
=D8 Acceptance was by military inspectors in each factory.
=D8 In terms of use, all control, budgeting and management of DOSAAF was through
the Russian military.
I am not sure what further criteria could be required - these issues have been
exhaustively examined, not just in aircraft type, but in terms of the specific
history of each individual aircraft - and that is why we cannot operate Yak-52s
manufactured after the beginning of 1993 in the UK - because 1992 and prior,
are accepted as being "ex-military," but not 1993 and later.
Richard Goode
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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| Subject: | Alex Zuyev Facts |
--> Yak-List message posted by: yakparts@simplyweb.net
Group,
Alex Zuyev was not killed in an L-39. He was killed in a Yak 52 on
June 10, 2001. Below is the NTSB summary, but you can get the full
NTSB report as a .pdf file:
The experimental category Yakovlev Yak-52, was destroyed after
colliding with terrain while maneuvering. The first pilot, a commercial
pilot/certified flight instructor who was seated in the forward seat,
and the second pilot, a commercial pilot receiving instruction, were
fatally injured. The accident airplane, a Yak-52, was the number two
airplane in a flight of three aircraft. Shortly after takeoff, the
number three airplane (Yak-18) returned to secure a fuel door that
became unlatched during the initial takeoff. The pilot of the Yak-52
elected to maneuver over an area know as Cherry Point and wait for
pilot of the Yak-18 to rejoin him. Approximately 10 minutes later, the
pilot of the Yak-18 rejoined the Yak-52. The Yak 18 pilot stated that
as he approached the area from the northwest, he observed the accident
airplane maneuvering northeast of his position at an altitude of 1,500
feet mean sea level (MSL). He instructed the Yak-52 pilot to reverse
his course in an effort to join him in formation flight. He reported
that shortly after the pilot of the Yak-52 initiated the turn to the
west (left), the airplane "...stalled and pitched nose down at about
40-60 degrees." Reportedly, the Yak-52 then rolled to the right,
pitched up and oscillated around its vertical axis. Witnesses stated
that the accident airplane rotated 2-3 times prior to impacting
terrain. The pilot of the Yak-18 stated the accident airplane impacted
terrain in a relatively level attitude with little forward motion. Post
accident inspection of the airplane and associated components revealed
no evidence of a preimpact mechanical malfunction or failure.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable
cause(s) of this accident as follows:
The first pilot's failure to maintain aircraft control while
maneuvering. Factors include an inadvertent stall.
Full narrative available
Jill Gernetzke
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| Subject: | Warbird or not Warbird..... |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:58:00 -0500
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
Folks,
Is the only concern we have being called a "warbird" so we can get better parking
at Oshkosh? I know it helps with insurance...at least I think it does.
I would like to echo Sam's remarks about the RPA and its staff. Great work and
it is much appreciated!
Tim
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| Subject: | Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
We are thinking of changin the radio/intercom panel.
Various intercom panels advertise that they have cconsiderable noise
reduction.
I have heard the the intercom panels
Ira Saligman
Saligman Capital
200 Chamounix Road
Wayne, PA 19087
o 610 225 8421
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
<mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com
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| Subject: | Looking for radio/intercom panel experience |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
When changin radio/intercom panels, the panel manufacturers (ie sigtronics
amongst others) advertise that their panel and switch has considerable noise
reduction capabilities.
I have also heard from individuals that simply putting in your own toggle
switches works as well.
Does anyone have any thoughts on if their are true benefits to buying a nice
selector panel vs using toggle switches?
Ira Saligman
200 Chamounix Road
Wayne, PA 19087
o 610 225 8421
c 610 324 5500
f 215 243 7699
<mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ira Saligman wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
>
> We are thinking of changin the radio/intercom panel.
>
> Various intercom panels advertise that they have cconsiderable noise
> reduction.
The big problem is reducing noise coming into the intercom. This means
proper selection for the microphone in your headset and/or helmet.
Sigtronics makes a high-noise noise-canceling microphone that seems to
work pretty well in the CJ and Yak-52. I have one on my helmet. I
believe that Doug Sapp has these.
The other issue is finding an intercom that has plenty of signal level
output. I have had good experience with PS Engineering in this area too.
In fact, I have had nothing but good experience with PS Engineering in
several airplanes including the CJ6A.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for radio/intercom panel experience |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
Ira Saligman wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
>
> When changin radio/intercom panels, the panel manufacturers (ie sigtronics
> amongst others) advertise that their panel and switch has considerable noise
> reduction capabilities.
I have not had a good experience with Sigtronics intercoms. I finally
removed them from my various airplanes and replaced them with units from
PS Engineering. Frankly, the cheapest intercom from PS Engineering
outperformed any of the Sigtronics units I tried.
> I have also heard from individuals that simply putting in your own toggle
> switches works as well.
I presume you mean separate push-to-talk for the intercom? That works
too. PTT for the intercom is often a good idea for a high-noise
environment. It depends a lot on the squelch action of the
voice-actuated intercoms whether you need PTT. I was able to use a
voice-actuated intercom in my CJ without any problems once I got a
decent noise-canceling microphone.
Again, the microphone is the key. It determines just how much crap the
intercom will have to deal with. If you have a crummy microphone the
intercom will have to work very hard to give good performance and may
not be able to do so at any price because the signal coming in is
already so bad.
> Does anyone have any thoughts on if their are true benefits to buying a nice
> selector panel vs using toggle switches?
I believe very strongly in getting a good intercom. As for an audio
selector panel, that depends on the number of radios you have in there.
If you have a full IFR installation with dual nav-coms, I would get a
good audio panel with intercom. If you only have one comm radio and use
GPS for navigation, I would just get a good intercom.
And it is nice to have music in the cockpit for cross country trips.
Most good intercoms support stereo music input. Most headsets now
support this and you can get your helmet wired up for stereo sound also.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM>
The microphone model Brian speaks of is the Sigtronics M80H. According to
Sigtronics, it was designed for high noise environments. I have 3 myself
and it is well worth the investment.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Looking for Radio/intercom panel experience
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> Ira Saligman wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
> >
> > We are thinking of changin the radio/intercom panel.
> >
> > Various intercom panels advertise that they have cconsiderable noise
> > reduction.
>
> The big problem is reducing noise coming into the intercom. This means
> proper selection for the microphone in your headset and/or helmet.
> Sigtronics makes a high-noise noise-canceling microphone that seems to
> work pretty well in the CJ and Yak-52. I have one on my helmet. I
> believe that Doug Sapp has these.
>
> The other issue is finding an intercom that has plenty of signal level
> output. I have had good experience with PS Engineering in this area too.
> In fact, I have had nothing but good experience with PS Engineering in
> several airplanes including the CJ6A.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
> +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
>
> There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
> A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
>
>
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