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1. 05:08 AM - Marvel Mystery Oil - again (Bryan Jones)
2. 07:15 AM - twaddy about Marvel Mystery Oil (Mark Jefferies)
3. 07:31 AM - Re: twaddy about Marvel Mystery Oil (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 08:05 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - again (Ron Davis)
5. 10:32 AM - [ Craig Payne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
6. 12:02 PM - Re : Hooker harness installation (lie.buyse@pandora.be)
7. 02:46 PM - Po' Boy Glass cockpit (cpayne@joimail.com)
8. 07:11 PM - MMO and oil changes (Steven A Johnson)
9. 09:55 PM - intake drain kit (Aviatre@aol.com)
10. 11:28 PM - Re: intake drain kit (Lance Robb)
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| Subject: | Marvel Mystery Oil - again |
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>The article you refer to mainly questions the use of PTFE as an engine
>additive. I agree with their postulations in that regard. It refers to
>MMO
>as a solvent. I agree with that definition too. It does not specifically
>find anything wrong with MMO, at least the way I read it.
Please forgive me for jumping into this discussion mid-stream, but I see the
"Slick 50" type additive topic raising it's head and I feel compelled to
comment.
If someone is questioning the use of a particulate oil additive such as
Teflon or other similar material, they are very wise. Based on 17 years of
machinery engineering experience in the petrochem manufacturing industry,
never, *never* put any particulate additive such as PTFE, PFA... (Teflon)
into a piece of oil lubricated machinery.
And as for liquid oil additives, they *can* sometimes be beneficial. I have
no significant experience with MMO, but additives such as STP, PAO
synthetics, etc. can be very helpful in the right application and with
compatible fluids.
2 cents
Bryan Jones RV-8... CJ or Yak, future
Houston
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| Subject: | twaddy about Marvel Mystery Oil |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
Why all this black magic in USA about an oil additive? (MMO) There has been
no marketing cult built up in the UK about this stuff. There was something
called "red X" once upon a time that got a small following from the boy
racers.
If MMO is so clever why is it not used world over? Could be worth millions.
Lycoming "approve" an oil additive or is MMO the same stuff? The purpose is
corrosion protection.
For flat 4 and 6's there is always EXXON Elite multigrade, that carries real
benefits for those engines in corrosion protection and wear protection. Just
ask the oil analysis people for an independent view on that one. Pity we
cant use it in the radials.
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| Subject: | Re: twaddy about Marvel Mystery Oil |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM>
Mark said - "If MMO is so clever why is it not used world over?"
Who knows. Maybe that's why they call it MYSTERY oil. -)
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
Subject: Yak-List: twaddy about Marvel Mystery Oil
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies" <mark.j@yakuk.com>
>
> Why all this black magic in USA about an oil additive? (MMO) There has
been
> no marketing cult built up in the UK about this stuff. There was something
> called "red X" once upon a time that got a small following from the boy
> racers.
>
>
> If MMO is so clever why is it not used world over? Could be worth
millions.
>
>
> Lycoming "approve" an oil additive or is MMO the same stuff? The purpose
is
> corrosion protection.
>
>
> For flat 4 and 6's there is always EXXON Elite multigrade, that carries
real
> benefits for those engines in corrosion protection and wear protection.
Just
> ask the oil analysis people for an independent view on that one. Pity we
> cant use it in the radials.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - again |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>I hate to commit another blasphemy or appear stupid but I have a
>question for the group. Why do we change our oil? The system holds 8-12
>quarts. I loose 1 quart per hour. After I have flown 25 or 30 hours I
>have added 25 to 30 quarts of new oil. The oil is constantly being mixed
>so it is not that I am draining slug out of the bottom. I figure my oil
>is never more than about 12 hours old. I can see checking or cleaning
>the screens but why drain and discard perfectly good oil. It does not
>make sense to me. Any comments?
>
>Steve
>N9900X
I can't argue with your logic. Never change your oil again, just add new
oil. Let us know how it turns out for you.
p.s. I'm being facetious
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| Subject: | [ Craig Payne ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | Hooker harness installation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "lie.buyse@pandora.be" <lie.buyse@telenet.be>
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van
: lie.buyse@pandora.be [mailto:lie.buyse@telenet.be]
Verzonden
: zaterdag
5, 2005 07:55 PM
Aan
: yaklist@matronics.com
Onderwerp
: Re: Yak-List: Hooker harness installation
Thank you for the information.
If there is anyone who already installed this type of harness in his/her Yak, I
would like to know how and where an attachment point can be made for this second
(backup) seat belt.
Lieven Buyse
RA1428K
>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>Van
: Wesley Warner [mailto:warner.wesley@gmail.com]
>Verzonden
: zaterdag
5, 2005 02:42 PM
>Aan
: lie.buyse@pandora.be
>Onderwerp
: Re: Yak-List: Hooker harness installation
>
>Lieven,
>
>> Questions :
>>
>> - belt with ratched must face rearwards (so on the left side) with the attachment
on the seat pan?
>
>It would be better to attach the belts to the airframe rather than the
>seat. However, you can just attach it to the place where the original
>belts were. If this is the seat, then that's ok.
>
>> - "front" belt attachment point somewhere on the airframe or on the seat pan
together with the former one?
>
>No, the second belt is a backup for the first. It should be attached
>at a different point.
>
>> - shoulders straps and crotch strap to be clicked on the same strap? the front
or the rear one? or maybe shoulders rear and croth front?
>
>The crotch strap should be clipped to the front belt, while the
>shoulder straps should be on the rear belt.
>
>Wes
>
>
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| Subject: | Po' Boy Glass cockpit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Some of our yaksters have really fine glass cockpit displays
that wow the troops at every stop. Surely something to be
proud of, but...how much of that stuff do you really use?
For guys with priorities other than new high-end glass for
Baby (mortages, etc) I have stumbled upon a line of
instruments, long on features but short in price. For
Ultralights no less.
MGL Avionics has a whole line of neat stuff for the techie
pilot. I'm interested in their digital encoding
altimeter/VSI, the configurable AH/Compass/Turn coordinator
and a fuel flow meter. See www.sportflyingshop.com
for downloadable .pdf files.
Anybody using this stuff?
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | MMO and oil changes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steven A Johnson" <sajdds@comcast.net>
Hi Mark
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my statements and questions in
such detail. You obviously have considerable knowledge on the subject. I
am a relatively new owner (1 year) and trying to learn how to best take
care of my toy. I have no mechanical background.
Regarding the lead issue I have examined my plugs, one from each
cylinder, at 30, 60, 100, and 130 hours since overhaul. I have never
observed any significant deposits on any plugs and have never cleaned
them. Compression readings at 100 hours where very high on all
cylinders. Would you still recommend the use of MMO in the fuel in this
circumstance?
Regarding the oil changes: I understand that the oil becomes
contaminated and also that with heat and use the oil itself will break
down and loss it's lubricating abilities. Would you address my point
that considering the consistent use and replacement of 1 quart per hour
I seam to be continuously "changing" my oil. Am I not losing the old,
worn-out, dirty oil at a rate of 1 quart per hour? It seams to me that
after approximately 10 to 12 hours my oil will remain of constant
condition until I change it at an arbitrary point of time. If it is OK
from the 12 to 25 or 30 hour point why is it not good indefinitely?
Would you also comment on the practice of having oil analyzed? Is it a
good idea? Why and where is the best place to have it done?
Please note I am not trying to convince anyone of my point of view. I am
just questioning to gain a better understanding.
Thanks for your comments.
Steve
N9900X Yak 52
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| Subject: | intake drain kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Aviatre@aol.com
Who makes an intake drain kit for the hs6a?
An inquiring mind wants to know
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| Subject: | intake drain kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
We have fitted 3 small drain valves to the bottom 3 intakes and leave them
open with a small tin with a wire loop on it to catch what drains from them.
We have found since using them we have not had one lock and was definitely
worth the time to fit them. I'm not sure where they came from but shouldn't
be a problem to get hold of.
Lance
NQWB Aust
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Subject: Yak-List: intake drain kit
--> Yak-List message posted by: Aviatre@aol.com
Who makes an intake drain kit for the hs6a?
An inquiring mind wants to know
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