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1. 02:13 AM - hooker harness (Steve Newing)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: Annual Challenge (Richard Basiliere)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - again (Ron Davis)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: CJ6 Tail slides (cjpilot710@aol.com)
5. 11:15 AM - Re: CJ6 Tail slides (Gus Fraser)
6. 12:07 PM - Re: harnesses (cjpilot710@aol.com)
7. 01:23 PM - Re: intake drain kit (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
8. 01:37 PM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - again (Jorgen Nielsen)
9. 02:15 PM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - FOREVER (Jorgen Nielsen)
10. 02:44 PM - Re: MMO and oil changes (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
11. 03:50 PM - Re: Re : Hooker harness installation (Bob Fitzpatrick)
12. 05:56 PM - RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM (Frank Haertlein)
13. 06:47 PM - Oil Change Intervals (Frank Haertlein)
14. 07:27 PM - Re: RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM (Ernest Martinez)
15. 09:13 PM - Re: Re: RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM (D Zeman)
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2.00 DATE_IN_FUTURE_24_48 Date: is 24 to 48 hours after Received: date
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Newing" <sbnewing@ozemail.com.au>
Hi Guy's
Can anybody advise me if Hooker make a sport Harness for the cj6 and has fitted
them especially the crotch strap?
Cheers
Steve
Yakkin Downunder
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Challenge |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Now that is a properly thrown gauntlet...
>>> cpayne@joimail.com 2/6/2005 4:00:45 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com"
<cpayne@joimail.com>
Girly Men: I'm talking to you Whiskey Delta
Sons-of-the-MotherLand and Misplaced Miscreants of Mao. The
time has come to me meet me on the field of honor in the Sun
'n Fun 60 race!
Well maybe it's only time to submit your entry forms anyway.
Download an entry form from the Aircraft Spruce site and
send in your $35. I'm tired of being the sole carrier of the
Red Star flag. Yes I've trashed every Mooneye, Bananna, and
Cess-nought I have encountered but I still get thrashed by
the 300+hp Marchetti's, (I've beaten the stock SF-260) and
Comanche 400's. I'd love to see a class of our own, all it
takes is 4 aircraft.
So where are those 400HP Yak-50's, the -52TD, and Air
Performance injected 'Changs? Come and whup me if you
can..Ha ha, ha... What's a matter? vibrations from your
mis-tuned motors weaken your spines?
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery Oil - again |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
Jorgen,
Your mind is made up on Marvel Mystery Oil. You have no use for facts or
other people's experience with the product.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; you waste your time and annoy the pig"--
Lazarus Long
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 Tail slides |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Geee's I go out of town a few days and we get the Yak turkeys all ginned up.
Lance,
Take no heed of this pretender. "Combat type level" maneuvers DO NOT
include tail slides. To stand still in the air for even an instant is asking
for
either an easy missile solution for your killer, or a stationary target for
his quick gun shot. If he misses, you are still at disadvantage, cause you
have accelerate in order to turn toward him to his same speed or greater, to
close. By that time he's gone.
"Speed kills" the other guy in aerial combat. Ask ANY Yak pretender to dive
with you OR EVEN, fly straight and level at YOUR cruise power settings.
Now acrobatics. Acrobatics were never invented so the pilot would need to
sit crunched up in a small cockpit, with minimum fuel, and endure bone
crushing G forces just to turn around a circle. Acrobatics were invented as a
soul
reaching extended experience, that emulates art. Finesse of movement and
fine of touch. To be able to enjoy every lengthy moment of sight, sound, touch
of your craft. As my Brazilian daughter-in-law exclaimed as I took her
though her first loop "Ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I am born to do d'is!"
Now as to tail slides in the CJ-6. Yes she will do them. But it may NOT BE
OK to do them. The CJ community has found several airplanes with cracks in
the front spar of the horizontal stab. These cracks emulate from a hole cut
in the spar web, so that the elevator cable can go though. Most of us avoid
tail slides because the tail don't look all that beefy compared to other
aircraft. Like all other aircraft, if you do a tail slide, DO NOT let the
controls slap freely as the aircraft starts to slide. Hold tight to the stick
and
do not allow the rudder to slam one way or the other. I do very nice hammer
head turns to stay in the box.
Now the CJ will do just about any maneuver a Yak can do. Only in nice
stately elegant manner. No hurky jerky snappy crape. Only a certified masticus
would endure such ham fisted convolutions. Pilots are artist and poets at
heart. You don't see real artists slapping on paint or poets scribbling words.
Such things (and aerobatics) are done with deliberate diligence. Even the
untrained eye on the ground appreciate it more. Just sit in the crowd some
time and listen to them. It's like "Oh! Isn't really beautiful" (from a #10
blond of a CJ-6's barrel roll) as compared to "What the *&
% was that!" ( a
Yak's reverse outside snap rolls)
Get back in place and mind your manner Frank! :-)
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 2/4/2005 12:44:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
yak52driver@earthlink.net writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Lance
As regards aerobatics with the CJ. I would counsel that the CJ is best
described as a point A to point B airplane. It is well recognized that
it is incapable of performing to an equivalent "combat type level" as
you might expect with a YAK-52.
If I owned a CJ, I would fly it as though my grandmother were in the
back seat thus ensuring you never exceed the CJ's somewhat limited
flight envelope. Tail slides are an advanced maneuver limited to the
stronger airplanes, like the YAK-52, so you would be well advised to
avoid such maneuvers. In fact, my general advice is to sell the CJ and
get a man's airplane.....the YAK-52. This will allow you to explore the
full flight spectrum with confidence. There are pilots and there are
aviators. But most of all, there are those who really know how to push
the envelope and explore the limits of their aircraft. It is unlikely
you will experience either in the CJ.
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lance Robb
Subject: Yak-List: CJ6 Tail slides
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
Hi Guys,
I'll introduce myself, I'm Lance Robb and I fly a CJ6 at the North
Queensland warbirds at Mareeba in Far North Queensland Australia. I
have been flying our CJ for a little over 12 Months now and find it a
thrill to fly. Since starting to fly aerobatics with it I have been
steadily increasing my number of aeros and am wanting to know if there
is anyone out there who has any comments on tail sliding the CJ6. I
don't see there should be a problem but our chief pilot has suggested I
ask those who have probably tried it first to get their feed back.
Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Lance
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 Tail slides |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Gus Fraser <fraseg@comcast.net>
Ah, all the signs of classic G envy ;))
On the plus side, when you perform those 0 to -ve G figures in your CJ ,
being the artist it is, the engine will, just at the most poetic point go
quiet just to allow you to enjoy the shear beauty of it all.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gus
...... Original Message .......
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:45:53 EST cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
>
>Geee's I go out of town a few days and we get the Yak turkeys all ginned
up.
>
>Lance,
>
>Take no heed of this pretender. "Combat type level" maneuvers DO NOT
>include tail slides. To stand still in the air for even an instant is
asking for
>either an easy missile solution for your killer, or a stationary target
for
>his quick gun shot. If he misses, you are still at disadvantage, cause
you
>have accelerate in order to turn toward him to his same speed or greater,
to
>close. By that time he's gone.
>
>"Speed kills" the other guy in aerial combat. Ask ANY Yak pretender to
dive
>with you OR EVEN, fly straight and level at YOUR cruise power settings.
>
>Now acrobatics. Acrobatics were never invented so the pilot would need
to
>sit crunched up in a small cockpit, with minimum fuel, and endure bone
>crushing G forces just to turn around a circle. Acrobatics were invented
as a soul
>reaching extended experience, that emulates art. Finesse of movement and
>fine of touch. To be able to enjoy every lengthy moment of sight, sound,
touch
>of your craft. As my Brazilian daughter-in-law exclaimed as I took her
>though her first loop "Ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I am born to
do d'is!"
>
>Now as to tail slides in the CJ-6. Yes she will do them. But it may NOT
BE
>OK to do them. The CJ community has found several airplanes with cracks
in
>the front spar of the horizontal stab. These cracks emulate from a hole
cut
>in the spar web, so that the elevator cable can go though. Most of us
avoid
>tail slides because the tail don't look all that beefy compared to other
>aircraft. Like all other aircraft, if you do a tail slide, DO NOT let
the
>controls slap freely as the aircraft starts to slide. Hold tight to the
stick and
>do not allow the rudder to slam one way or the other. I do very nice
hammer
>head turns to stay in the box.
>
>Now the CJ will do just about any maneuver a Yak can do. Only in nice
>stately elegant manner. No hurky jerky snappy crape. Only a certified
masticus
>would endure such ham fisted convolutions. Pilots are artist and poets
at
>heart. You don't see real artists slapping on paint or poets scribbling
words.
>Such things (and aerobatics) are done with deliberate diligence. Even
the
>untrained eye on the ground appreciate it more. Just sit in the crowd
some
>time and listen to them. It's like "Oh! Isn't really beautiful" (from a
#10
>blond of a CJ-6's barrel roll) as compared to "What the *&
>% was that!" ( a
>Yak's reverse outside snap rolls)
>
>Get back in place and mind your manner Frank! :-)
>
>
>Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
>In a message dated 2/4/2005 12:44:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>yak52driver@earthlink.net writes:
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
><yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
>Lance
>As regards aerobatics with the CJ. I would counsel that the CJ is best
>described as a point A to point B airplane. It is well recognized that
>it is incapable of performing to an equivalent "combat type level" as
>you might expect with a YAK-52.
>
>If I owned a CJ, I would fly it as though my grandmother were in the
>back seat thus ensuring you never exceed the CJ's somewhat limited
>flight envelope. Tail slides are an advanced maneuver limited to the
>stronger airplanes, like the YAK-52, so you would be well advised to
>avoid such maneuvers. In fact, my general advice is to sell the CJ and
>get a man's airplane.....the YAK-52. This will allow you to explore the
>full flight spectrum with confidence. There are pilots and there are
>aviators. But most of all, there are those who really know how to push
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
That's what I did. Works great.
Jim"Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 2/6/2005 3:28:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Aviatre@aol.com writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Aviatre@aol.com
I was thinking about sending the chinese belts out to be re-webbed instead
of instllalling something like hookers. This is mosly in an effort to keep
as
thing as original as possible.
Any thoughts pro or con? Also thought it might be cool to find a chinese
flight suit?
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| Subject: | intake drain kit |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
The best drain kits for the M-14 come from Mr. Kimbell down in Florida.
What makes them "better" is that he uses braided lines to connect everything
together instead of solid aluminum tubing. The latter eventually cracks.
I know next to nothing about the hs6a, but maybe the same parts would fit?
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Robb [mailto:lrob4783@bigpond.net.au]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: intake drain kit
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" <lrob4783@bigpond.net.au>
We have fitted 3 small drain valves to the bottom 3 intakes and leave them
open with a small tin with a wire loop on it to catch what drains from them.
We have found since using them we have not had one lock and was definitely
worth the time to fit them. I'm not sure where they came from but shouldn't
be a problem to get hold of.
Lance
NQWB Aust
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aviatre@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: intake drain kit
--> Yak-List message posted by: Aviatre@aol.com
Who makes an intake drain kit for the hs6a?
An inquiring mind wants to know
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Marvel Mystery Oil - again |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Ron, not at all. I have a lot of use for facts - but so far not many
are in evidence. Re experience, I acknowledge the expertise on this
list - seems many are engineers or technically qualified. I am not. I
note that many well qualified and experienced people on this list are
very happy with MMO. I can therefore assume it does no harm.
I am just somewhat cynical re any "cure all" type product.
A pigs snork can be somewhat melodic if you that way inclined.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Davis
> Sent: 07 February 2005 18:53 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Marvel Mystery Oil - again
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
>
> Jorgen,
>
> Your mind is made up on Marvel Mystery Oil. You have no use
> for facts or other people's experience with the product.
>
>
> "Never try to teach a pig to sing; you waste your time and
> annoy the pig"-- Lazarus Long
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Marvel Mystery Oil - FOREVER |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
Hi Mark
Good stuff! BTW I like the XS-1100, used one a lot driving up & down
the coast in Durban. (would fly down with the missus, borrow the bike
from a friend).
WD-41 also not approved in any of my vehicles or for aviation use! :-)
Hopefully you got the Camaro & she got the chainsaw?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
> Sent: 04 February 2005 22:55 PM
> To: 'yak-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Yak-List: Marvel Mystery Oil - FOREVER
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
> --> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> Hi Jorgen! Hope everything is going well with you!
>
> I have run MMO quite often in my:
>
> Yak-50, which we've already talked about.
> 1982 Yamaha XS-1100, with 58,000 very hard miles, a lot at or
> above redline.
>
> 1968 ProStreet Camaro, 640 HP 502 Cu.in. Big Block, turning
> 10.8 seconds at 138 mph in the 1/4 mile.
> Stihl Chainsaw
> (Ex) Wifes Mazda RX-7 running a rotary engine.
>
> None have yet had pieces of valve, piston, rod, etc., "flying
> out of the block".
>
> Maybe the owners should change the name though, to... hmmm... maybe
> something like: "WD-41"? :-)
>
> Take care,
>
> Mark Bitterlich
> N50YK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Nielsen [mailto:jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Marvel Mystery Oil - again
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
> --> <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
>
> Ron, with a name like Marvel Mystery Oil I would think the
> opposite! Maybe it is a culture thing. Would you buy a 2nd
> hand car from someone who calls himself "The Shadow"?.
>
> I drive a BMW M3 and ride a Yamaha R1 - the M3 with superb
> handling & overall performance is an example of the best
> German engineering, the R1 is an example of the best Japanese
> engineering. Both are superb, and completely reliable,
> despite the very high power / displacement ratio. Both are
> from manufacturers with major R&D budgets and both
> specifically advise against any and all additives.
>
> I have a hunch that if I put MMO in either of these vehicles'
> oil it would not be long before pieces of valve, piston etc.
> would be flying around out of the block.
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ron Davis" <l39parts@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Jorgen,
> >
> > I agree that all mystery engine additives are snake oil.
> > Except Marvel Mystery oil. It's ok with me if you disagree
> > and don't use it. Have you heard of Chevron's Techron? I
> > use it too. I used it before Chevron invented it. It is
> > oridinary engine cleaning solvent (Stoddard Solvent) that
> > mechanics buy by the 55 gallon drum. Maybe someday Chevron
> > will discover MMO.
> >
> > Ron
> >
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
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> =========
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | MMO and oil changes |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Hello Steve. Thanks for your comments.
Your engine seems to be running extremely well, and I'd be a hypocrite if I
did not follow my own advice: "If it works good, then don't fix it." Your
engine seems to not be depositing any lead on the spark plugs, so there is
good logic that says, don't fool around with obvious success. Just out of
curiosity, and maybe we could take this off-line, but...where have you been
inspecting the spark plugs for lead? As for the exhaust valves, I did not
start having problems with the valves not closing all the way/sticking until
I got up around 280-320 hours or so. This is not a situation where the lead
screws up the exhaust valve in minutes... it takes a rather significant
amount of time to build. What's really a mess is if it gets down into the
valve GUIDES!
I will admit something here. I was rather lackluster about keeping MMO in
the fuel when I first started flying my 50. Like you, I was extremely
pleased with the almost perfect compression tests I achieved in the first
year or two. However, when my first cylinder (#2) had to be pulled and the
exhaust valve ground to reseal it... it got my attention. Shortly
afterwards I started having leakage in cylinders #9 and #1. Examination of
spark plugs showed leading. I immediately started paying attention to what
I knew I should have been doing all along, and all my friends also enjoyed
reminding me of: I should have been running MMO. I started using it
religiously...... 200 hours later, the proof is in the pudding. I also am
seriously considering flying a 50/50 mix of 93 octane automobile fuel and
100 LL, and would love to hear any opinions on this from anyone else. But in
the end analysis... yes, I would still recommend running MMO in your fuel.
Maybe not at the ratio I use, but still... some .......I obviously think it
is worthwhile.
Putting myself in your shoes, I think a reasonable thought pattern would be:
1. Enough people are using this stuff and swearing by it, that it obviously
isn't ruining anything.
2. It is admittedly a solvent... and should help to keep my carburetor
clean, especially the barostat (more so if I burn car gas)
3. Everyone admits that it is a top end lubricant, and heck.. there is
nothing wrong with that.
Bottom line... it does not appear that it can HURT anything... consider the
fact that not one person on this list has ever mentioned, or implied
something like: "I USED MMO AND IT DESTROYED MY ENGINE" In fact, just the
contrary... a lot of people swear by it. So.. yes, I would recommend it to
you.. but if you decide not to use it, hey, no sweat!
You said: "Would you address my point
that considering the consistent use and replacement of 1 quart per hour
I seam to be continuously "changing" my oil. Am I not losing the old,
worn-out, dirty oil at a rate of 1 quart per hour? It seams to me that
after approximately 10 to 12 hours my oil will remain of constant
condition until I change it at an arbitrary point of time. If it is OK
from the 12 to 25 or 30 hour point why is it not good indefinitely?
Your theory would be accurate except for some small points.
Fact: You are losing oil at a certain rate.
Assumption: With that loss of oil quantity, you are also losing the exact
same amounts of precipitate matter/contamination that has collected in the
oil from the operation of the engine, along with the break down products of
the oil itself, (acid, etc.) not to mention any moisture content.
The above assumption is what gets your premise into trouble Steve. The
carbon (and other) deposits collect in the oil and do not burn out and
disappear like the petrochemical products of the oil itself. Thus over
time, no matter how much oil you keep adding... those deposits just keep
building and building and building, even with the loss and replacement of
the fluid matter itself.
Mathematically consider this thought too: With an oil change, we can assume
there is NOTHING "bad" in the oil at that point of time. Using your
premise, we would eventually build to a certain level of contaminant and
maintain that level continuously until a total oil change, at some
indeterminate point. Even if this were perfectly true... changing the oil
more often would lower the overall percentage of contamination over time.
Now, just to throw a monkey wrench into the whole point I have just worked
so hard to make..... I would be remiss if I did not admit that "back in the
day" when radial engines ruled the skies and the engine oil tanks often
would exceed 50 GALLONS of oil, that the operators of these engines would do
exactly as you mentioned. They would just keep adding oil ... and rarely
emptied it all and replaced it on any kind of "20 hour" basis!
They also had a whole bevy of trained mechanics, brand new engines sitting
on stands ready to go on, and had no thought of trying to make the engines
last just as long as was humanly possible. In addition, the quality of the
oil used back in those days is not what we have today. Point being
though... your premise does indeed have some historical significance and is
not totally without consideration. If you were to add some extremely good
oil filtration system to your engine, it is perfectly true that you could
also extend the time between oil changes. In theory, if you also changed to
a synthetic oil, that would not break down as easily... you could extend
this time period to an amazingly high value.
With that said Steve, I run a dual oil filter in my big block Camaro. I
also run synthetic oil. I also change it just as religiously as I ever
have. Why? Because that pro street engine cost me over $15,000. Same
thing for my airplane engine. My M-14 engine turns oil black with carbon
faster than if I were to inject black INK into it. That said, and since I
want to get every hour I can out of that baby, I change the oil every 20
hours.
Great luck and happy flying in your 52! I wish I could fit into one of the
darn things myself. Believe it or not, there is more room in a 50, than a
52 for a tall pilot!
Mark Bitterlich
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven A Johnson [mailto:sajdds@comcast.net]
Subject: Yak-List: MMO and oil changes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steven A Johnson" <sajdds@comcast.net>
Hi Mark
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my statements and questions in
such detail. You obviously have considerable knowledge on the subject. I
am a relatively new owner (1 year) and trying to learn how to best take
care of my toy. I have no mechanical background.
Regarding the lead issue I have examined my plugs, one from each
cylinder, at 30, 60, 100, and 130 hours since overhaul. I have never
observed any significant deposits on any plugs and have never cleaned
them. Compression readings at 100 hours where very high on all
cylinders. Would you still recommend the use of MMO in the fuel in this
circumstance?
Regarding the oil changes: I understand that the oil becomes
contaminated and also that with heat and use the oil itself will break
down and loss it's lubricating abilities. Would you address my point
that considering the consistent use and replacement of 1 quart per hour
I seam to be continuously "changing" my oil. Am I not losing the old,
worn-out, dirty oil at a rate of 1 quart per hour? It seams to me that
after approximately 10 to 12 hours my oil will remain of constant
condition until I change it at an arbitrary point of time. If it is OK
from the 12 to 25 or 30 hour point why is it not good indefinitely?
Would you also comment on the practice of having oil analyzed? Is it a
good idea? Why and where is the best place to have it done?
Please note I am not trying to convince anyone of my point of view. I am
just questioning to gain a better understanding.
Thanks for your comments.
Steve
N9900X Yak 52
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| Subject: | Re: Hooker harness installation |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com>
I have installed a Hooker in my 52 and it works great. Can't remember
who told me how to do it but this works:
The ratchet on is the front belt, ratchet to the right. This belt is
attached to the airframe. I used 1/8" cable to extend down to the
frame. I consider this my primary belt. At 6'3"" with a seat pack it is
the only way to keep your head off the Plexiglas when negative. Outside
of a crash or belt failure this is all you would need.
Everything else attached the same places the Russian belts did : belt to
the seat, crotch to the floor and shoulders to the frame.
Note BOTH systems attach you to the frame and not just the seat. Also
note all of the second system must connected to give you the
protection of a 5-point harness (as opposed to two 3-point systems if
you connect the crotch to the bottom belt and shoulders to the top belt).
Always hook the bottom belt first an tighten the ratchet. Then connect
the 5 points at the top belt. This way the crotch strap protects the
primary latch from being accidentally opened by some wild stick
thrashing.
bob
yse@pandora.be wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "lie.buyse@pandora.be" <lie.buyse@telenet.be>
>
>
>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>Van
>: lie.buyse@pandora.be [mailto:lie.buyse@telenet.be]
>Verzonden
>: zaterdag
> 5, 2005 07:55 PM
>Aan
>: yaklist@matronics.com
>Onderwerp
>: Re: Yak-List: Hooker harness installation
>
>Thank you for the information.
>If there is anyone who already installed this type of harness in his/her Yak,
I would like to know how and where an attachment point can be made for this second
(backup) seat belt.
>Lieven Buyse
>RA1428K
>
>
>
>>----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>>Van
>>
>>
>: Wesley Warner [mailto:warner.wesley@gmail.com]
>
>
>>Verzonden
>>
>>
>: zaterdag
> 5, 2005 02:42 PM
>
>
>>Aan
>>
>>
>: lie.buyse@pandora.be
>
>
>>Onderwerp
>>
>>
>: Re: Yak-List: Hooker harness installation
>
>
>>Lieven,
>>
>>
>>
>>>Questions :
>>>
>>>- belt with ratched must face rearwards (so on the left side) with the attachment
on the seat pan?
>>>
>>>
>>It would be better to attach the belts to the airframe rather than the
>>seat. However, you can just attach it to the place where the original
>>belts were. If this is the seat, then that's ok.
>>
>>
>>
>>>- "front" belt attachment point somewhere on the airframe or on the seat pan
together with the former one?
>>>
>>>
>>No, the second belt is a backup for the first. It should be attached
>>at a different point.
>>
>>
>>
>>>- shoulders straps and crotch strap to be clicked on the same strap? the front
or the rear one? or maybe shoulders rear and croth front?
>>>
>>>
>>The crotch strap should be clipped to the front belt, while the
>>shoulder straps should be on the rear belt.
>>
>>Wes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM http://www.redstaraviation.org/
Red Star Aviation is a unique non-profit Warbird Flying Museum,
Consulting Service, and Flight Training & Aircraft Operating environment
which is open to the public. Breaking the mold of the commercialization
of Warbird flight training, we offer a non-competitive, non-commercial
training and aircraft basing alternative for the novice or experienced
Warbird pilot.
Brought to you as a public service from the
YAK LINKS Page http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
Frank Haertlein
YAK-52
N9110M
L71
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| Subject: | Oil Change Intervals |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Mark
I change my oil at a rate more frequently than you do. If I let it get
to ten hours on an oil change that is a long interval. I change the oil
shortly after it gets black and that's around five or six hours of
flight. I know it's an expensive way to go but it's a whole lot less
expensive than an engine replacement........and it won't hurt anything
even if it is too high a frequency.
A while back I designed an oil filtration system that took the used oil
down to around 2 microns and it would still be black in color. The black
oil color wasn't due so much to contamination of the oil as it had to do
with the oil being "caramelized" or permanently taking on a darker color
due to heat. In other words, you COULD filter your oil to .1 microns and
it would still be black.
In my Toyota truck, the oil stays a light brown color for thousands of
miles. Keep in mind engine temperature is very well regulated with an
oversized radiator so the oil doesn't get black due to heat (anyone want
to mention the extreme high mileage figures typically obtained with a
Toyota?).
The YAK is an air-cooled motor so the temperature it runs at is less
well regulated. The YAK readily turns it's oil black due to heat. Heat
breaks down an oil's lubricity and turns it a darker color.
Are my oil changes too frequent? Probably! But then again I'm operating
on the extreme left side of the bell curve. I think there are some
benefits to be derived from that.....like long engine life!
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
Subject: Language Barriers
A Chinese guy was trying to exchange yen for dollars and said to the
Teller...........
"why it change, yestoday I get two hunat dolla fo yen.....Today I get a
Hunat eighty?
"The teller says - "fluctuations"
The Chinese guy says "well, fluc you white guys too"
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| Subject: | Re: RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Words of advise........steer well clear of this org, or more aptly
said... this guy. Nuff said.
Ernie
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:55:15 -0800, Frank Haertlein
<yak52driver@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM http://www.redstaraviation.org/
> Red Star Aviation is a unique non-profit Warbird Flying Museum,
> Consulting Service, and Flight Training & Aircraft Operating environment
> which is open to the public. Breaking the mold of the commercialization
> of Warbird flight training, we offer a non-competitive, non-commercial
> training and aircraft basing alternative for the novice or experienced
> Warbird pilot.
>
> Brought to you as a public service from the
> YAK LINKS Page http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
>
> Frank Haertlein
> YAK-52
> N9110M
> L71
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re: RED STAR AVIATION MUSEUM |
--> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
From knowledge and past experience, I would have to
agree with Ernie.
Zeman
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