Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/17/05


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 12:15 AM - Re: Re: Leather Helmets (Jorgen Nielsen)
     2. 01:47 AM - Re: Re: Leather Helmets (Jerome Van Der Schaar)
     3. 06:17 AM - Duha! (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     4. 06:46 AM - Re: Duha! (mark williamson)
     5. 08:07 AM - Re: Duha! (N13472@aol.com)
     6. 08:25 AM - Airworthiness Certification (Richard Goode)
     7. 09:42 AM - Yk-52 standard airworthiness? (Jerry Painter)
     8. 09:46 AM - RPA Request (Ira Saligman)
     9. 09:57 AM - Re: Yk-52 standard airworthiness? (Ernest Martinez)
    10. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Leather Helmets (Steve Newing)
    11. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Leather Helmets (Michael Beach - Hartwigs Trucks Pty Ltd)
    12. 04:29 PM - Re: Cheep CJ wanted! (Marcus Bates)
    13. 07:05 PM - Outstanding RPA Store Orders (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    14. 07:05 PM - Re: Yk-52 standard airworthiness? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: RE: Leather Helmets
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen@mweb.co.za> Have a look at www.airwear.co.za The guy who runs the company is called Marc. They have made me a lot of stuff over the years, from flightsuits to patches to the aerobatic cotton helmets. They make a fantastic leather helmet, designed around an original WW2 British one. They supply with headset fitted or just alone - prices are good, around $250 for the leather helmet with headset fitted I think. Jorgen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > PeteAbbott@aol.com > Sent: 17 February 2005 02:05 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: RE: Leather Helmets > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com > > Anybody have a good source for leather helmets that have a > built in head > sets or go over your head sets? > > Pete Abbott > > Yak 52 N852GC > > > ========= > Matronics Forums. > ========= > ========= > > > >


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    Time: 01:47:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Leather Helmets
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30@hotmail.com> Not really a helmet, but it will make sure you will not loose your headset and it takes away the engine noise. Fit's for David Clarks. http://www.aerobaticproshop.com/david-clark-cloth-aerobatic-helmet.htm Jerome www.yakkes.com -------Original Message------- From: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: RE: Leather Helmets --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com Anybody have a good source for leather helmets that have a built in head sets or go over your head sets? Pete Abbott Yak 52 N852GC


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    Time: 06:17:57 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Duha!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Do you know the difference between a 47k ohm resistor and a 47 ohm resistor? Answer: 4 full days of bashing one's head against a hangar wall. A 90 mile round trip to a manufacture to convince him both his *& %**&#@ new senders were broke. (They weren't). And truly embarrassing yourself in frount of God and your friends that inspit of your vast aeronaughtical experance and 65 years of age, you are still an idot at anything dealing with electricity. Why? Because you can't understand what's the difference between a 47k ohm resistor and a 47 ohm resistor. Pappy


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    Time: 06:46:56 AM PST US
    From: mark williamson <yakk52@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Duha!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: mark williamson <yakk52@verizon.net> answer: orange ;) > > From: cjpilot710@aol.com > Date: 2005/02/17 Thu AM 09:17:03 EST > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Duha! > >


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    Time: 08:07:34 AM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Duha!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com In a message dated 2/17/2005 6:18:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cjpilot710@aol.com writes: Do you know the difference between a 47k ohm resistor and a 47 ohm resistor? Answer: 4 full days of bashing one's head against a hangar wall. A 90 mile round trip to a manufacture to convince him both his *& %**&#@ new senders were broke. (They weren't). And truly embarrassing yourself in frount of God and your friends that inspit of your vast aeronaughtical experance and 65 years of age, you are still an idot at anything dealing with electricity. Why? Because you can't understand what's the difference between a 47k ohm resistor and a 47 ohm resistor. Pappy even at your advanced age remembering is easy if you use this diddy. 0. Black Bad 1. Brown Boys 2. Red Rape 3. Orange Our 4. Yellow Young 5. Green Girls 6. Blue But 7. Violet Violet 8. Gray Gave 9. White Willingly 47 Ohm = Yellow, Violet, Black 4 7 0 - multiplier Tom Elliott CJ-6 N63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 08:25:23 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Airworthiness Certification
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Sorry for late arrival on this topic - have been in Russia. As some have already said, I cannot understand why anyone would want to obtain Normal Category certification. The practicality is that for a Yak-52 (or indeed a Yak-50 or Yak-55) it is effectively impossible.=20 These aircraft were exceedingly well designed, but according to Russian (then) military norms. There was no attempt to obtain any form of civilian certification.=20 To attempt to get Type-Certification, many procedures and systems have to be established at the time of original design and manufacture. To try to go back and obtain these respectively for an aircraft that was not designed to Type-Certified standard (e.g. FAR 23) is almost impossible. The simple fact is that Aerostar, despite a lot of trying and indeed significant commercial pressures to do so, have been unable to obtain certification within their home country of Romania for new production Yak-52s.=20 Richard Goode Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Mob: +44 (0) 7768 610389 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com dangerous content by the http://www.anti84787.com MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 09:42:23 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net>
    Subject: Yk-52 standard airworthiness?
    IMItemGuid: {251991F8-5744-4633-9BDE-4151A049F8E3} --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> My dear Yakster friends (and you, too, Ernie, even Frank), 1) Christian Dragoi--are you out there? Doug? Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is neither the -52 or CJ-6 has any "civilian" "type certificate" of any kind issued by any "civilian" political entity, anywhere. They were designed and built for use in times and places where "civil" aviation was an oxymoron. Yes, I know, DOSAAF was a "civilian" organization. Right. By the military, for the military. Ergo, no reciprocal ICAO or JAR type certification is possible, though, as Mark Jefferies and Dave Sutton have pointed out, they can be operated on the basis of, and by the rules of foreign registration in the US. "All" you have to do is operate them in accordance with the requirements of the country that registered the a/c. 2) Would it be possible to lay off the character assassination? Kids, please go outside to do your yelling. First it was Fred Ihlenburg, then Andrew Zheng, now it's Dave Sutton (sorry if I left anyone out). Who wants to go next? Sheesh, already! 3) Dave, do you still have your Broussard? Just curious. Fine airplane. We need to organize a fly-in somewhere that has an appreciation for French women, cheeses, wine and at least one of their airplanes. And you Florida guys can go to hell. Us real men up here in Seattle like it cold and wet in winter and cold and wet in the summer. So bugger off! Nobody likes a smart ass. Jerry Painter


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    Time: 09:46:26 AM PST US
    From: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com>
    Subject: RPA Request
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ira Saligman" <isaligman@saligman.com> If anyone is an accountant with a few minutes too talk about RPA, please contact me. Ira Ira Saligman Treasurer RPA o 610 225 8421 c 610 324 5500 f 215 243 7699 <mailto:isaligman@saligman.com> isaligman@saligman.com


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    Time: 09:57:51 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yk-52 standard airworthiness?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Just got back for a T-6 formation flight and am about to go up in the CJ to do some acro. Weasther was pretty bad earlier 70 F with 800 ft overcast, but its all clear and 80 now. Sorry Jerry :) Ernie On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:41:07 -0800, Jerry Painter <wild.blue@verizon.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue@verizon.net> > > My dear Yakster friends (and you, too, Ernie, even Frank), > > 1) Christian Dragoi--are you out there? Doug? Correct me if I'm wrong, > but my understanding is neither the -52 or CJ-6 has any "civilian" "type > certificate" of any kind issued by any "civilian" political entity, > anywhere. They were designed and built for use in times and places where > "civil" aviation was an oxymoron. Yes, I know, DOSAAF was a "civilian" > organization. Right. By the military, for the military. Ergo, no > reciprocal ICAO or JAR type certification is possible, though, as Mark > Jefferies and Dave Sutton have pointed out, they can be operated on the > basis of, and by the rules of foreign registration in the US. "All" you > have to do is operate them in accordance with the requirements of the > country that registered the a/c. > > 2) Would it be possible to lay off the character assassination? Kids, > please go outside to do your yelling. First it was Fred Ihlenburg, then > Andrew Zheng, now it's Dave Sutton (sorry if I left anyone out). Who wants > to go next? Sheesh, already! > > 3) Dave, do you still have your Broussard? Just curious. Fine airplane. > We need to organize a fly-in somewhere that has an appreciation for French > women, cheeses, wine and at least one of their airplanes. > > And you Florida guys can go to hell. Us real men up here in Seattle like it > cold and wet in winter and cold and wet in the summer. So bugger off! > Nobody likes a smart ass. > > Jerry Painter > > >


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    Time: 02:27:10 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Newing" <sbnewing@ozemail.com.au>
    Subject: Re: RE: Leather Helmets
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Newing" <sbnewing@ozemail.com.au> Pete try Ivan Campbell in New Zealand ivan@campbellaeroclassics.com he makes a fine leather helment, web www.campbellaeroclassics.com Steve Newing CJ6A VH-CJE ----- Original Message ----- From: <PeteAbbott@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: RE: Leather Helmets > --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com > > Anybody have a good source for leather helmets that have a built in head > sets or go over your head sets? > > Pete Abbott > > Yak 52 N852GC > > >


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    Time: 03:23:01 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Beach - Hartwigs Trucks Pty Ltd" <mbeach@hartwigs.com.au>
    Subject: RE: Leather Helmets
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Michael Beach - Hartwigs Trucks Pty Ltd" <mbeach@hartwigs.com.au> Steve could you contact Michael beach off list mbeach@hartwigs.com.au -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Newing Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: Leather Helmets --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Newing" <sbnewing@ozemail.com.au> Pete try Ivan Campbell in New Zealand ivan@campbellaeroclassics.com he makes a fine leather helment, web www.campbellaeroclassics.com Steve Newing CJ6A VH-CJE ----- Original Message ----- From: <PeteAbbott@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: RE: Leather Helmets > --> Yak-List message posted by: PeteAbbott@aol.com > > Anybody have a good source for leather helmets that have a built in head > sets or go over your head sets? > > Pete Abbott > > Yak 52 N852GC > > >


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    Time: 04:29:39 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Bates" <mlbjr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Cheep CJ wanted!
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Marcus Bates" <mlbjr@earthlink.net> Robert....wondered what ever happened to you and if you are still intrested in the CJ6 stuff.


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    Time: 07:05:45 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Outstanding RPA Store Orders
    --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com If any of you have outstanding orders with the RPA Store and have not heard from me, please contact me off list. The store is fully up and running. Here to serve you. Blitz Byron M. Fox The RPA Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-380-0907 Home Eves 415-307-2405 Cell Days


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    Time: 07:05:47 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Yk-52 standard airworthiness?
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com And you Florida guys can go to hell. Us real men up here in Seattle like it cold and wet in winter and cold and wet in the summer. So bugger off! Nobody likes a smart ass. Jerry Painter Now Jerry, if God had wanted man to live the cold and wet, He would NOT have made warmth and sun light and He would have made man with fur all over his body and an umbrella growing up the back of his neck. BTW I wore shorts in my hangar this afternoon. :))))) Pappy




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