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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Batteries (Cj6av8r@aol.com)
2. 06:02 AM - Survival Gear (Cj6av8r@aol.com)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Batteries (Roger Bieberdorf)
4. 07:23 AM - Re: Survival Gear (Bill Geipel)
5. 08:41 AM - 285 hp prop logo decal (Doug Sapp)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: [SPAM] - Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject (Terry)
7. 02:55 PM - Re: Batteries (Jon Boede)
8. 03:07 PM - Re: Prop logo (cpayne@joimail.com)
9. 08:01 PM - M14P Cowl Support Ring (Frank Haertlein)
10. 08:17 PM - Re: M14P Cowl Support Ring (Roger Kemp)
11. 08:27 PM - Re: [SPAM] - Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject (Roger Kemp)
12. 08:40 PM - Re: M14P Cowl Support Ring (Sam Sax)
13. 08:41 PM - Re: Survival Gear (Roger Kemp)
14. 08:57 PM - ARS 2005 Registration is now OPEN! (Barry Hancock)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
In a message dated 3/5/2005 5:49:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
erniel29@gmail.com writes:
I saved almost 20 lbs in the L-29 forcing me to add weight to the nose to
compensate.
Hey Ernie are you sure this wasn't an excuse to hit the all-u-can-eat
buffets? From what I've seen 20lbs is doable :)
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numbers@matronics.com, mixed@matronics.com, in@matronics.com,
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Gents,
I've approached this from the scenario that has me under canopy and the
airplane a smoking hole somewhere else, hopefully. What works for me is a fly
fishing vest with all my survival gear in it. It's mostly mesh (breathable),
big pockets all over the place, and short like a waist coat so it doesn't
interfere with the lap belts. My gear is basically what I had when I was flying
in
the Navy plus a few things. Here's what I bring along... Cell phone, an old
Garmin 90 GPS (it's tiny), pencil flares, smoke/flare, mirror, whistle,
survival mylar blanket, and a 1/2 pt canteen. Also if I have the time I can take
my
VHF handheld from my Nav bag and I have a spot for it, but it's too bulky to
fly with it on me. The mesh vest allows me to tie lanyards to all the
equipment so I won't drop it from 5000 feet. The big back pocket is perfect for
the
blanket and any charts/paperwork you might want with you. Now I'll admit that
for local hops I don't always wear this except for the cell phone. But
remember you may not be able to walk out of the forrest and they may have to see
or
hear you. Also an FYI regarding cell phones, the capability to triangulate
your position from cell towers exists, if the rescuers have access to the
equipment.
This is what I have done for my personal safety so critique away, I welcome
the input ....... I think
Mark
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf <rogerbyak@yahoo.com>
Walt; I replaced a Gill 24 volt battery (expensive) with two of the Odessey batteries.
Check the archives of the list for the subject of center tapping to
get 12 volts. Brian Lloyd came up with much good advice. I also installed a
Battery Tender that is wired to a 120 volt male plug at the APU door port on the
left side of the aircraft. I keep a 120 volt extension cord plugged in all
the time that the aircraft is in the hangar. The physical size of the 2 odessey
(biggest available) is very close to the size of the Gill battery. There
were a couple of pictures posted that gave me guidance. rb
Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt
Murphy
Has anyone used a pair of Odessey 12V batteries ( in series ) aboard a
YAK or a CJ ?
I see most of the Vans RV guys using this sealed battery . Advantages
are sealed construction , work well in high vibration areas , can be
mounted in any orientation , more power ( CCA's ) ( Amp hours ) , 2 +
year storage life , won't freeze ( good to - 40 degrees F ) , made in
the US , 2 year replacement warrantee.
The only downside I see on these is that a pair will weigh about 4
pounds more than the currently installed Concord RG series battery.(
Hawker Oddessey PC 680 ) http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm
Thanks,
Walt
CJ6-A N68WH
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| Subject: | Re: Survival Gear |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <czech6@earthlink.net>
Survival gear? Flight suits?
This is a 2 seat, single engine trainer. Like a Cessna 150. I have never thought
about this stuff flying the same type of airplanes. Parachutes are required
by the fed if you are upside down with a passenger, but???
The yak doesn't have enough gas to get to enemy territory, (East of the Mason/Dixon
line) So being found shouldn't be a problem.
I don't argue the point that having it on board is a good thing, but flight training
students in a Cessna doing touch & goes at the Orange County airport, (John
Wayne) is infinently more dangerouse than flying formation with a bunch of
guys that have all been trained in a great program.(Fast).
My day;
The sun is shinning on a beautiful Sunday morning. The wind is calm, the temp around
65, fuel cost about a buck a gallon, (humor me) And we are off for some
of those $100 pancakes. The high today is forcast to be 75.
I am in shorts, as is my wing man, Canopies are open, it is great to be alive!
Your day:
The sun is shinning on a beautiful Sunday morning. The wind is calm, the temp around
65, fuel cost about a buck a gallon, (humor me) And we are off for some
of those $300 pancakes. The high today is forcast to be 75.
I am in nomex underwear, socks, gloves and flight suit. My helmut is strapped on,
canopies are closed because we may hit a bird or bee. My canopy knife/hammer
is stowed. (Do you think that canopy could survive a crash?) The police line
tape is in the survival kit because terrorists could approach the aircraft while
we eat even though I have posted a guard, the tape will enclose the area.
I'm hot because the air conditioning is not operable, but it is in the log book
and signed off so we are legal to fly. It is a total of 15 minutes to the breakfast.
It is a beautiful Sunday morning, my neighbors just took off in their
C-150. In shorts with no survival gear. They will never make it, silly amatures.
Just go fly and have fun. We are not under attack its not a military airplane.
It is their version of the Cessna.
When they ground us because of a spar failure, then we can worry about the rescue.
Blue Sky's.
Bill
p.s.: I love to stir the pot. Keep smiling.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Survival Gear
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Gents,
I've approached this from the scenario that has me under canopy and the
airplane a smoking hole somewhere else, hopefully. What works for me is a fly
fishing vest with all my survival gear in it. It's mostly mesh (breathable),
big pockets all over the place, and short like a waist coat so it doesn't
interfere with the lap belts. My gear is basically what I had when I was flying
in
the Navy plus a few things. Here's what I bring along... Cell phone, an old
Garmin 90 GPS (it's tiny), pencil flares, smoke/flare, mirror, whistle,
survival mylar blanket, and a 1/2 pt canteen. Also if I have the time I can take
my
VHF handheld from my Nav bag and I have a spot for it, but it's too bulky to
fly with it on me. The mesh vest allows me to tie lanyards to all the
equipment so I won't drop it from 5000 feet. The big back pocket is perfect for
the
blanket and any charts/paperwork you might want with you. Now I'll admit that
for local hops I don't always wear this except for the cell phone. But
remember you may not be able to walk out of the forrest and they may have to see
or
hear you. Also an FYI regarding cell phones, the capability to triangulate
your position from cell towers exists, if the rescuers have access to the
equipment.
This is what I have done for my personal safety so critique away, I welcome
the input ....... I think
Mark
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| Subject: | 285 hp prop logo decal |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
Hey all you 285hp CJ dirvers out there, in a few days there will be (should
be) a photo share image of the new J9-G1 prop logo decal which several of
you have inquired about. If interested in restoring your prop to it's
original factory look, please contact me off list. The logo is an exact
reproduction of the factory logo that is on all 285 hp blades.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Coppersmith
Subject: Re: Yak-List: a NEW subject
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bryan Coppersmith <bryan@yaknz.com>
Hi
I extracted this from the Russian manuals when I wrote
our manual for use by Yak 52 drivers here in New Zealand.
In the clean configuration, the gliding range is 7:1 at the best
lift/drag speed of 160 km/hr. (Conservatively, this results in
a range of 1 nm per 1000ft AGL.
To obtain the maximum range, use 150 km/hr with a tailwind,
160 km/hr in still air, and 170 km/hr in a
headwind.
For each 10 knots of headwind, range decreases by
aproximately 10%.
The best performance when turning is achieved at 170 km/hr
at 45 angle of bank. A 180 turn in this configuration will take
12-15 seconds and results in an altitude loss of
approximately 370 ft.
Cheers - Bryan Coppersmith
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| Subject: | Re: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Ernie,
Thanks for the offer, however, what I need now is a formal FAST clinic to
finish off my training .
Have fun guys . Wish I was there!
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Terry,
>
> The options are, you can take up the hospitality of Rich Langer
> another Leeward resident who has offered up accomodations in his
> hangar office, which is a large finished room, he has offered up cots.
> Not exactly the Holiday Inn, but beats the mosquito netting.
>
>
> Ernie
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:46:30 -0500, Terry <talew@comcast.net> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
>>
>> Ernie,
>> I don't understand. What are the options ? I must have missed something.
>> Terry Lewis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in
>> subject
>>
>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Well, I guess its up to those who want to attend and need
>> > accomodations.
>> >
>> > All those interested.....speak up.
>> >
>> > Ernie
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:55:42 +0000, rlanger2@comcast.net
>> > <rlanger2@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: rlanger2@comcast.net
>> >>
>> >> Ernie: I can put 5 or 6 in my 15x55 utility room that is set up for a
>> >> dormitory style bedroom. It is finished off like a bedroom ( sheetrock
>> >> ceilings, walls , heat, a/c ,bathroom etc. ). I just have to find
>> >> cots,
>> >> sleeping bags, roll-a-ways or blow up matresses( I have two now). Let
>> >> me
>> >> know off site.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Received-SPF: pass (zoso.email.net: domain of jon@email.net designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) receiver=zoso.email.net; client-ip=127.0.0.1; helo=zoso.email.net; envelope-from=jon@email.net; x-software=spfmilter 0.95 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2;
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
The Odessey batteries are really great... after going through TWO of the
Concorde 390E batteries in my L-39 at $1,300 (cough) EACH (in the space of
about one year, and well within the warranty that Concorde never did
honor), I switched to a pair of $99 Odessey batteries and they've worked
like a charm under all manner of ACM shenanigans and up to FL330.
Jon
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf <rogerbyak@yahoo.com>
>
> Walt; I replaced a Gill 24 volt battery (expensive) with two of the
> Odessey batteries. Check the archives of the list for the subject of
> center tapping to get 12 volts. Brian Lloyd came up with much good
> advice. I also installed a Battery Tender that is wired to a 120 volt
> male plug at the APU door port on the left side of the aircraft. I keep a
> 120 volt extension cord plugged in all the time that the aircraft is in
> the hangar. The physical size of the 2 odessey (biggest available) is
> very close to the size of the Gill battery. There were a couple of
> pictures posted that gave me guidance. rb
>
> Walt Murphy <waltmurphy@charter.net> wrote:--> Yak-List message posted by:
> Walt Murphy
>
> Has anyone used a pair of Odessey 12V batteries ( in series ) aboard a
> YAK or a CJ ?
> I see most of the Vans RV guys using this sealed battery . Advantages
> are sealed construction , work well in high vibration areas , can be
> mounted in any orientation , more power ( CCA's ) ( Amp hours ) , 2 +
> year storage life , won't freeze ( good to - 40 degrees F ) , made in
> the US , 2 year replacement warrantee.
> The only downside I see on these is that a pair will weigh about 4
> pounds more than the currently installed Concord RG series battery.(
> Hawker Oddessey PC 680 ) http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Walt
> CJ6-A N68WH
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Heh, that Chinese prop logo will look great on my blue
colored, 'glassed Rusky paddle blade. I have some pics of
CJ-6's (Not CJ-6A's) with wood paddle blades. Can't tell
whether or not they have decals, but WTF!
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | M14P Cowl Support Ring |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakinators:
The ring of soft pads/hard foam that goes around the M14P helps support
the cowling. Turns out mine are near their useful service life so am
looking to replace them. Anyone got a slick replacement for the original
factory configuration? I'm considering a continuous ring of thick
silicone rubber to replace the stock setup which would then be covered
with Teflon tape to minimize wear. Any thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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| Subject: | Re: M14P Cowl Support Ring |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Frank,
It might work until you have to pull a cylinder. Suggest Termikus or Anabaras for
replacement parts.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: M14P Cowl Support Ring
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakinators:
The ring of soft pads/hard foam that goes around the M14P helps support
the cowling. Turns out mine are near their useful service life so am
looking to replace them. Anyone got a slick replacement for the original
factory configuration? I'm considering a continuous ring of thick
silicone rubber to replace the stock setup which would then be covered
with Teflon tape to minimize wear. Any thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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| Subject: | Re: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Terry,
Where are you located? The Wetumpka, Al (08A) guys are working with the T-6 guys
(CAF) out of Peachtree City, Ga. to put on a FAST clinic at Peachtree City
or Selma (the Old Craig AFB), Al. Will know more about it in one week. The POC
is on vacation with his family. Will be a mix of T-6's, P-51's, Jets, and at
least 3 maybe 6 YAKs. We are shooting for 28,29Apr-! May 05.
Doc Kemp
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry <talew@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Ernie,
Thanks for the offer, however, what I need now is a formal FAST clinic to
finish off my training .
Have fun guys . Wish I was there!
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in subject
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Terry,
>
> The options are, you can take up the hospitality of Rich Langer
> another Leeward resident who has offered up accomodations in his
> hangar office, which is a large finished room, he has offered up cots.
> Not exactly the Holiday Inn, but beats the mosquito netting.
>
>
> Ernie
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:46:30 -0500, Terry <talew@comcast.net> wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
>>
>> Ernie,
>> I don't understand. What are the options ? I must have missed something.
>> Terry Lewis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Leeward Mini Clinic - Email found in
>> subject
>>
>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Well, I guess its up to those who want to attend and need
>> > accomodations.
>> >
>> > All those interested.....speak up.
>> >
>> > Ernie
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:55:42 +0000, rlanger2@comcast.net
>> > <rlanger2@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: rlanger2@comcast.net
>> >>
>> >> Ernie: I can put 5 or 6 in my 15x55 utility room that is set up for a
>> >> dormitory style bedroom. It is finished off like a bedroom ( sheetrock
>> >> ceilings, walls , heat, a/c ,bathroom etc. ). I just have to find
>> >> cots,
>> >> sleeping bags, roll-a-ways or blow up matresses( I have two now). Let
>> >> me
>> >> know off site.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | M14P Cowl Support Ring |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
Actually, Doug Sapp may have some in stock- give him a call. These are
identical to both engine types.
Sam Sax
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P Cowl Support Ring
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Frank,
It might work until you have to pull a cylinder. Suggest Termikus or
Anabaras for replacement parts.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: M14P Cowl Support Ring
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
<yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakinators:
The ring of soft pads/hard foam that goes around the M14P helps support
the cowling. Turns out mine are near their useful service life so am
looking to replace them. Anyone got a slick replacement for the original
factory configuration? I'm considering a continuous ring of thick
silicone rubber to replace the stock setup which would then be covered
with Teflon tape to minimize wear. Any thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
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| Subject: | Re: Survival Gear |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Mark,
Who makes the vest and is it a fly fishing vest. The AF/Army has a multipocket
survival vest the could be found at base salvage sometimes. The squadron changed
out the OD for Desert Tan. It is very similar to what you are talking about.
Have had to fly with it a few times in the Viper, kinda bulky and can be uncomfortable.
Your idea is good. Had approached the survival kit for XC 's by putting it all
in my helmet bag and hanging the bag on the emergency gear extension handle with
hopes that I could get it free quick enough if I had to step over the side.
Can you email me a picture of your offline?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Survival Gear
--> Yak-List message posted by: Cj6av8r@aol.com
Gents,
I've approached this from the scenario that has me under canopy and the
airplane a smoking hole somewhere else, hopefully. What works for me is a fly
fishing vest with all my survival gear in it. It's mostly mesh (breathable),
big pockets all over the place, and short like a waist coat so it doesn't
interfere with the lap belts. My gear is basically what I had when I was flying
in
the Navy plus a few things. Here's what I bring along... Cell phone, an old
Garmin 90 GPS (it's tiny), pencil flares, smoke/flare, mirror, whistle,
survival mylar blanket, and a 1/2 pt canteen. Also if I have the time I can take
my
VHF handheld from my Nav bag and I have a spot for it, but it's too bulky to
fly with it on me. The mesh vest allows me to tie lanyards to all the
equipment so I won't drop it from 5000 feet. The big back pocket is perfect for
the
blanket and any charts/paperwork you might want with you. Now I'll admit that
for local hops I don't always wear this except for the cell phone. But
remember you may not be able to walk out of the forrest and they may have to see
or
hear you. Also an FYI regarding cell phones, the capability to triangulate
your position from cell towers exists, if the rescuers have access to the
equipment.
This is what I have done for my personal safety so critique away, I welcome
the input ....... I think
Mark
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| Subject: | ARS 2005 Registration is now OPEN! |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
The new site is finally finished, and registration is open...go to
allredstar.com and check it out!
Early registration gets you a 10% discount!!! The first 20 people to
register get an ARS polo shirt of their choice.
There are lots of new features and new flying activities at the event
this year, and more importantly a larger staff both in ground and air
ops to make sure that you there is more flying, better food, and more
fun than ever before.
Some highlights not mentioned on the site yet:
-Possibility of both an F-5 Tiger II out of Yuma and an F/A-18
Aggressor out of Miramar will be there.
-Red Star Performer's showcase on Friday night including Eddie
Andrieni in his Yak-9, Greg Medford in his CJ-6A, and Sal Rubino flying
not one, but perhaps BOTH of his MiG-21's.
-Banquet speaker, TBD, but Willy Driscol (Navy Ace Randy Cunningham's
WSO) and Bernie Fisher (Congressional Medal of Honor from Vietnam)
are on the short list.
-Air Race demo, road recce, and introduction to low-level flying
activities.
-COLD Keg of beer on the ramp every night at 1700!
-Aerobatics box over the field at the end of each day.
-Drew dressed in drag! Mmmmm, bad mental image....maybe not.
-Online secure registration using major CC's!
-Downloadable daily schedule and *poster* that you can print to hang
at your local airport, or in your hangar, behind the settee in the
dining room, etc.
-The real dirt on our staff...on the "staff" page, of course!
-Much, much more...but that's what the web site is for!
www.allredstar.com
Looking forward to seeing all of you there, May 11-15!
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"A Unique Aviation Experience"
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