Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 03/16/05


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:52 AM - Re: Reno (cpayne@joimail.com)
     2. 04:07 AM - Re: Reno (Daniel Fortin)
     3. 04:27 AM - Re: Reno (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     4. 04:32 AM - Re: Reno (Rob Mortara)
     5. 04:56 AM - Re: Reno (Daniel Fortin)
     6. 05:22 AM - Re: Re: Reno (Frank Haertlein)
     7. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Reno (Roger Kemp)
     8. 06:26 AM - FAST cards (MFilucci@aol.com)
     9. 06:37 AM - Re: FAST cards (Ernest Martinez)
    10. 07:01 AM - oil analysis - HELP (Richard Basiliere)
    11. 07:55 AM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Ernest Martinez)
    12. 08:01 AM - Aerobatic boxes (Ernest Martinez)
    13. 09:28 AM - Volt regulator (JOE)
    14. 09:50 AM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (N13472@aol.com)
    15. 10:34 AM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (DaBear)
    16. 10:50 AM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Richard Basiliere)
    17. 11:01 AM - Re: Aerobatic boxes (Roger Kemp)
    18. 12:26 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Doug Sapp)
    19. 12:28 PM - Re: Reno (ByronMFox@aol.com)
    20. 03:03 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Richard Basiliere)
    21. 03:56 PM - Re: Aerobatic boxes (Ernest Martinez)
    22. 04:54 PM - Re: Aerobatic boxes (Richard Basiliere)
    23. 04:59 PM - Re: Aerobatic boxes (Richard Basiliere)
    24. 06:32 PM - Weather Stripping (Ernest Martinez)
    25. 06:42 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Sam Sax)
    26. 07:18 PM - Re: Aerobatic boxes (Roger Kemp)
    27. 08:54 PM - RPA #138 (SW FAST Clinic) (Barry Hancock)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:52:05 AM PST US
    From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> I'd say visit the Mustang Ranch but they closed down. However, there are some other establishments near that site. Any cabbie or limo driver can take you there, just east of town a ways... Craig Payne


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    Time: 04:07:07 AM PST US
    From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> OK, so I guess I'll have to spend a boring weekend since neither gamble nor drink. I'll just enjoy the sunshine. thanks, Dan >From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > >Drink heavily. >Doc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> >To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>, > Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> > >gamble >-- >Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com >President Voice: (415) 412-3062 >Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364 >PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com > > > > From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > Reply-To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:26:36 +0000 > > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Reno > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > > > Well, what is there to do on a weekend in Reno? Unfortunately in march, >not > > september... Arriving late thursday departing sunday. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:27:40 AM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 3/16/2005 3:17:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, viperdoc@mindspring.com writes: Alas, the girls! Think girls! At least I hear there are suppose to be girls there. You are interested in girls? Pappy :) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Drink heavily. Doc --> Yak-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> gamble -- Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com President Voice: (415) 412-3062 Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364 PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > Well, what is there to do on a weekend in Reno? Unfortunately in march, not > september... Arriving late thursday departing sunday. > > Dan


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    Time: 04:32:20 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com>
    Subject: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com> I with you on Gambleing and Drinking Try Sking at lake taho Heavenly valley or Squaw valley. The ski areas are only 1 1/2 hrs drive . Awsome place to ski. if you don't ski it won't be boring to learn. http://www.skiheavenly.com/ Lodging and food are cheep because of the gambling Rob Mortara PS whats up? are ---you going to sun n fun??? -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> OK, so I guess I'll have to spend a boring weekend since neither gamble nor drink. I'll just enjoy the sunshine. thanks, Dan >From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > >Drink heavily. >Doc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> >To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>, > Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> > >gamble >-- >Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com >President Voice: (415) 412-3062 >Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364 >PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com > > > > From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > Reply-To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:26:36 +0000 > > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Reno > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > --> <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > > > Well, what is there to do on a weekend in Reno? Unfortunately in > > march, >not > > september... Arriving late thursday departing sunday. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 04:56:03 AM PST US
    From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> Now there's an idea. I'll check with my partner se if he skis, but I think he's more of a golfer. I guess I'll just have to do some research and confirm Pappy's theory on the presence of "GIRLS"... ;-) As for SnF, nop not going. Flying to KLAL and back would burn about 1/3 of my yearly gas money. I much prefer to burn it on other more fun events like the ones in KGED. Mass form aint my thing... Plus Charlie Lynch and I may hook up that week to kick off the rust for the season. D >From: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: <yak-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Reno >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:31:48 -0500 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Mortara" <rob@robinhill.com> > >I with you on Gambleing and Drinking > >Try Sking at lake taho Heavenly valley or Squaw valley. The ski areas are >only 1 1/2 hrs drive . Awsome place to ski. if you don't ski it won't be >boring to learn. http://www.skiheavenly.com/ Lodging and food are cheep >because of the gambling > >Rob Mortara > >PS whats up? are ---you going to sun n fun??? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Fortin >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > >OK, so I guess I'll have to spend a boring weekend since neither gamble >nor >drink. I'll just enjoy the sunshine. > >thanks, > >Dan > > >From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno > >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > > >Drink heavily. > >Doc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> > >To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>, > > Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Reno > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Vance Cochrane <vec@ecochrane.com> > > > >gamble > >-- > >Vance Cochrane Email: vec@ecochrane.com > >President Voice: (415) 412-3062 > >Cochrane Consulting, Inc. Fax: (415) 651-9364 > >PO Box 854 Belmont, CA 94002 Web: http://www.ecochrane.com > > > > > > > From: Daniel Fortin <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > > Reply-To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:26:36 +0000 > > > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Yak-List: Reno > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > > --> <fougapilot@hotmail.com> > > > > > > Well, what is there to do on a weekend in Reno? Unfortunately in > > > march, > >not > > > september... Arriving late thursday departing sunday. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >advertising on the Matronics Forums. > >


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    Time: 05:22:02 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> Craig Speaking of the Mustang Ranch, there used to be a place outside of Tonopah Nev. called "Janie's". They recently shut their doors. The new sign out front says "JANIE'S IS NOW CLOSED - BEAT IT! Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cpayne@joimail.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: Reno --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" --> <cpayne@joimail.com> I'd say visit the Mustang Ranch but they closed down. However, there are some other establishments near that site. Any cabbie or limo driver can take you there, just east of town a ways... Craig Payne


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    Time: 05:49:31 AM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Nah, sport F_ _ _ _ ing can kill now. To many communicable diseases that can get thru that latex. It's back to drinking, gambling, skiing, or flying! Yah, Flying... that's the ticket! Just watchout for box canyons, midnight low levels over Lake Tahoa, and blow jobs! Deadly combination! Doc -----Original Message----- From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Reno --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com> I'd say visit the Mustang Ranch but they closed down. However, there are some other establishments near that site. Any cabbie or limo driver can take you there, just east of town a ways... Craig Payne


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    Time: 06:26:16 AM PST US
    From: MFilucci@aol.com
    Subject: FAST cards
    --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com RPA Warbirds drivers, We have gotten some feedback from members concerning the appearance of the member's aircraft (Yak-52, CJ6, etc.) on the FAST card. This does not constitute any restriction whatsoever on the aircraft you can fly in formation. It is intended simply as a "pride of ownership" indicator. Once you are formation qualified, you are formation qualified in any airplane you wish to fly -- assuming you can get at least one other pilot to agree to get close to you. I've heard that some are concerned about FAA scrutiny, some are concerned about liability, some fly so many different aircraft (think Barry Hancock) that we would have to enlarge the card to poster size, and some even don't have any pride of ownership. With all this in mind, we will not be putting any aircraft type on future FAST card issues unless you specifically request it be posted. Mike


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    Time: 06:37:05 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FAST cards
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Mike I have not received my membership or FAST card yet. Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:25:19 EST, MFilucci@aol.com <MFilucci@aol.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com > > RPA Warbirds drivers, > > We have gotten some feedback from members concerning the appearance of the > member's aircraft (Yak-52, CJ6, etc.) on the FAST card. > > This does not constitute any restriction whatsoever on the aircraft you can > fly in formation. It is intended simply as a "pride of ownership" indicator. > Once you are formation qualified, you are formation qualified in any airplane > you wish to fly -- assuming you can get at least one other pilot to agree to get > close to you. > > I've heard that some are concerned about FAA scrutiny, some are concerned > about liability, some fly so many different aircraft (think Barry Hancock) that > we would have to enlarge the card to poster size, and some even don't have any > pride of ownership. > > With all this in mind, we will not be putting any aircraft type on future > FAST card issues unless you specifically request it be posted. > > Mike > > >


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    Time: 07:01:07 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Folks; I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil My question to you that know: @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver Whazzit mean? Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained statistically the same. I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose. Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet


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    Time: 07:55:18 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I take it that you are only doing analyses after X number of oil changes, I hope you're not doing them every 100 hours!. The increase in any of the numbers could be just due to a longer interval between one sample and the other since the metals are cumulative. The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where silver would come from. Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:59:41 -0700, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> > > Folks; > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil > > My question to you that know: > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver > > Whazzit mean? > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained > statistically the same. > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose. > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet > > >


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    Time: 08:01:31 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to some so-called Moratorium??? It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers are in the mail. Ernie


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    Time: 09:28:09 AM PST US
    From: JOE <joeh@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Volt regulator
    --> Yak-List message posted by: JOE <joeh@shaw.ca> Anyone interested in a replacement for the CJ6 ZL1500 voltage regulator, contact me off list. joeh@shaw.ca


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    Time: 09:50:54 AM PST US
    From: N13472@aol.com
    Subject: Re: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com In a message dated 3/16/2005 7:55:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, erniel29@gmail.com writes: The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where silver would come from. Ernie The main bearings on most? radials contain silver. Tom Elliott CJ-6 NX63727 Sandy Valley NV 3L2 702-723-1223


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    Time: 10:34:47 AM PST US
    From: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org> So this raises some interesting questions, can someone speak from experience and draft a newsletter article on how to read the various items, what to look for, and what ranges are "normal" on the 285 Housai and the M14P? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Al DeVere N13472@aol.com wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: N13472@aol.com > > >In a message dated 3/16/2005 7:55:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >erniel29@gmail.com writes: > >The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where >silver would come from. > >Ernie > > >The main bearings on most? radials contain silver. > >Tom Elliott >CJ-6 NX63727 >Sandy Valley NV >3L2 >702-723-1223 > >


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    Time: 10:50:35 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Thanks and yes I change oil each 20-25 hours, test it each 100 or so >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:54:23 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I take it that you are only doing analyses after X number of oil changes, I hope you're not doing them every 100 hours!. The increase in any of the numbers could be just due to a longer interval between one sample and the other since the metals are cumulative. The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where silver would come from. Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:59:41 -0700, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> > > Folks; > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil > > My question to you that know: > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver > > Whazzit mean? > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained > statistically the same. > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose. > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet > > >


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    Time: 11:01:13 AM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> ernie, What did you do to get the paperwork to request an acro box. Did they set it up on a yearly basis? Call me stupid on this. Doc -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to some so-called Moratorium??? It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers are in the mail. Ernie


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    Time: 12:26:00 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Richard, Who are you using to test your oil? Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Basiliere Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Thanks and yes I change oil each 20-25 hours, test it each 100 or so >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:54:23 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I take it that you are only doing analyses after X number of oil changes, I hope you're not doing them every 100 hours!. The increase in any of the numbers could be just due to a longer interval between one sample and the other since the metals are cumulative. The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where silver would come from. Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:59:41 -0700, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> > > Folks; > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil > > My question to you that know: > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver > > Whazzit mean? > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained > statistically the same. > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose. > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet > >


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    Time: 12:28:00 PM PST US
    From: ByronMFox@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Reno
    --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com Now Dan, there are excellent shows in Reno at the large casinos. Also, you can rent a car and run up to LakeTahoe. Good restaurants in Truckee and lovely scenery. ...Blitz Byron M Fox The RPA Store 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 Cell Days 415-380-0907 Home Eves


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    Time: 03:03:20 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Aviation Laboratories 910 Maria St., Kenner, LA 504-469-6751 I don't know how Ben Russell (N55SU first owner) and I picked the same place...go figure. >>> rvfltd@televar.com 3/16/2005 1:24:08 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Richard, Who are you using to test your oil? Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Basiliere Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Thanks and yes I change oil each 20-25 hours, test it each 100 or so >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:54:23 AM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I take it that you are only doing analyses after X number of oil changes, I hope you're not doing them every 100 hours!. The increase in any of the numbers could be just due to a longer interval between one sample and the other since the metals are cumulative. The chromium is probably from your cylinders, I have no idea where silver would come from. Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:59:41 -0700, Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> > > Folks; > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil > > My question to you that know: > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver > > Whazzit mean? > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained > statistically the same. > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose. > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet > >


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    Time: 03:56:30 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> The boxes have to be renewed annually. I'm not familiar with the process, I was just passing on info from out IAC chapter pres who does this sort of stuff. We've had the box for years, so I have no idea what the application process was. Sorry Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > ernie, > What did you do to get the paperwork to request an acro box. Did they set it up on a yearly basis? Call me stupid on this. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to > some so-called Moratorium??? > > It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", > basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. > Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers > are in the mail. > > Ernie > > >


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    Time: 04:54:36 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Shhhh! We got our box renewed last year @STK for 2 years...so we're good for another year. DEN FSDO shhhh! >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 4:55:49 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> The boxes have to be renewed annually. I'm not familiar with the process, I was just passing on info from out IAC chapter pres who does this sort of stuff. We've had the box for years, so I have no idea what the application process was. Sorry Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > ernie, > What did you do to get the paperwork to request an acro box. Did they set it up on a yearly basis? Call me stupid on this. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to > some so-called Moratorium??? > > It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", > basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. > Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers > are in the mail. > > Ernie > > >


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    Time: 04:59:46 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
    Subject: Re: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Application process is: start at your local FSDO - tell them what you want to do - they give you a copy of the Directive - you read it - fill out the forms section - turn it in to them - hope and pray a lot. The directive will give you the forms to fill out along with what FSDO is looking for as far as what you want "waived" It will tell you precisely which FAR's can and cannot be waived. Akro within 4 miles of Airway can be waived. Akro below 1500 ft AGL can be waived. Akro over populated areas cannot be waived...that kind of stuff. Rick B >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 4:55:49 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> The boxes have to be renewed annually. I'm not familiar with the process, I was just passing on info from out IAC chapter pres who does this sort of stuff. We've had the box for years, so I have no idea what the application process was. Sorry Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > ernie, > What did you do to get the paperwork to request an acro box. Did they set it up on a yearly basis? Call me stupid on this. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to > some so-called Moratorium??? > > It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", > basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. > Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers > are in the mail. > > Ernie > > >


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    Time: 06:32:08 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Weather Stripping
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Does anyone have a source for the rubber weather stripping used on the inside edges of the gear doors and the wing straps??? Ernie


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    Time: 06:42:26 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: oil analysis - HELP
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> Richard, Oil analysis is effective only as a trend monitoring technique not just for a one time assessment of engine condition. I've been doing the oil spectro-analysis every 40 hours on my M-14P since new. With several such tests in a row, one could establish a trend of what's going on inside the engine - a great tool for monitoring the engine condition.. The motor is "making" metal continuously. You will see higher reading during the break-in and when something begins to go wrong. Just like a compression test - unless its really bad, a single test will not be conclusive. If your tests are done not in steady interval, I guess one could interpolate the results to the hours level you want. As to Chromium, I don't think wear of the cylinder walls is the culprit as the Cyls are made of steel. It's the piston rings that are Chrome plated and in my opinion, piston ring wear is the cause of higher level of Chromium. The iron (Fe) in the sample can come from the cylinder walls or gears. Not sure about silver although there are internal components that are silver impregnated (or plated), most likely the crankshaft main bearings. It would be best to consult any qualified engine overhaul shop for source of the various metals. I have been using (for the last 18 years) - Lab One, Inc. 101 W. Mohave, Phoenix, AZ 85003. Tel: 480.839.5221. Speak to Dianne. If requested, they will fax you the results in 24 hours and mail the report as well. Call her for oil sampling kits. They are real pros with great customer service. (If you do call, please say hello from me). My latest oil test showed very similar results to yours @ 501 hours (my engine time is 495 hours). Although Labs upper limits threshold may vary (above which is deemed abnormal), Lab One set FE upper limit at 50.00, CR at 20.00 and Silver at 2.00. Again, check with a qualified engine overhaul shop... FWIW, Sam Sax


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    Time: 07:18:01 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerobatic boxes
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Rick, Thanks for the information. I will start with the Birmingham FSDO and make the request. Thanks, Doc -----Original Message----- From: Richard Basiliere <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us> Application process is: start at your local FSDO - tell them what you want to do - they give you a copy of the Directive - you read it - fill out the forms section - turn it in to them - hope and pray a lot. The directive will give you the forms to fill out along with what FSDO is looking for as far as what you want "waived" It will tell you precisely which FAR's can and cannot be waived. Akro within 4 miles of Airway can be waived. Akro below 1500 ft AGL can be waived. Akro over populated areas cannot be waived...that kind of stuff. Rick B >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 4:55:49 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> The boxes have to be renewed annually. I'm not familiar with the process, I was just passing on info from out IAC chapter pres who does this sort of stuff. We've had the box for years, so I have no idea what the application process was. Sorry Ernie On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > ernie, > What did you do to get the paperwork to request an acro box. Did they set it up on a yearly basis? Call me stupid on this. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Aerobatic boxes > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > Has anyone out there been having problems renewing their boxes due to > some so-called Moratorium??? > > It has been resolved here in Florida, and "There Is No Moratorium", > basically a matter of local FSDO getting to cozy with a developer. > Atlanta FSDO stepped in and called our local FSDO, box renewal papers > are in the mail. > > Ernie > > >


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    Time: 08:54:35 PM PST US
    From: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
    Subject: RPA #138 (SW FAST Clinic)
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org> Hi Gang, The First Annual SW Regional FAST clinic is just two weeks away (April 1-3). I know there are many who have said they are planning to attend, but at this point I only have 7 registered. It is important for planning purposes (particularly instructor support) that we have an accurate count of all who will show up. Priority will be given to those who have pre-registered. If you have not done so, please visit the RPA site, go to the Events section, click on RPA #138 and register. Alternatively, click here: http://www.flyredstar.org/A_EventsReg.aspx?Event_ID=RPA138 I will be putting together the final details...hotels, etc., tomorrow and will send out that info as soon as I have it. Here are the people and aircraft I have officially registered for the event so far: George Lazik Yak-52 Frank Stelwagon CJ-6 Frank Surfas CJ-6 Tom Elliot CJ-6 Hal Provo CJ-6 Barry Hancock L-39 Neils Valentiner L-39 Again, there are many that I have spoken with that I know are planning to attend, so if you could please formalize it, we'd greatly appreciate your help! Thanks! Barry Barry Hancock Western Regional Coordinator RedStar Pilots Association (949) 300-5510 www.flyredstar.org "Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes"




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