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1. 03:44 AM - Re: Weather Stripping (cjpilot710@aol.com)
2. 04:01 AM - Re: Oil Analysis (cpayne@joimail.com)
3. 06:28 AM - Re: Weather Stripping (Jim Bernier)
4. 06:46 AM - SNF Room Reservations (cpayne@joimail.com)
5. 06:58 AM - Re: Weather Stripping (Ernest Martinez)
6. 08:28 AM - Re: SNF Room Reservations (Roger Kemp)
7. 11:14 AM - Acro Boxes (Jon Boede)
8. 11:55 AM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (ron wasson)
9. 12:29 PM - uplocks (ron wasson)
10. 01:27 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Ernest Martinez)
11. 01:46 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Roger Kemp)
12. 01:51 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
13. 02:40 PM - Re: Weather Stripping (DaBear)
14. 03:13 PM - Re: uplocks (cjpilot710@aol.com)
15. 03:56 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Ernest Martinez)
16. 04:22 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Rick Basiliere)
17. 04:50 PM - Re: uplocks (ron wasson)
18. 05:33 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Bitterlich GS11 Mark G)
19. 06:06 PM - You won't see this on the nightly news (Barry Hancock)
20. 07:11 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Ernest Martinez)
21. 07:19 PM - Re: Acro Boxes (Alex Belov)
22. 07:22 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Ernest Martinez)
23. 07:32 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Roger Kemp)
24. 07:40 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Ernest Martinez)
25. 07:42 PM - new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 (Roger Kemp)
26. 07:56 PM - Re: new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 (Ernest Martinez)
27. 07:57 PM - Re: oil analysis - HELP (Roger Kemp)
28. 08:05 PM - Re: You won't see this on the nightly news (Walt Fricke)
29. 08:05 PM - Re: uplocks (Frank Haertlein)
30. 08:09 PM - Re: new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 (Roger Kemp)
31. 08:20 PM - Re: uplocks (ron wasson)
32. 09:22 PM - Re: uplocks (Frank Haertlein)
33. 10:31 PM - PRB FAST clinic IP help (Barry Hancock)
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Stripping |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 3/17/2005 1:27:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
erniel29@gmail.com writes:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ernie,
You can find rubber sheets at some auto stores or ACE or other hardware
stores. It is usually 1/8" thick and 18" wide. You can use ordinary scissors
to
cut the patterns you need. Use ordinary "Contact Cement". This stuff will
hold on for an unbelievable time.
There is also a rubber tape on roll, about 1" wide. This good for the wing
straps, but its not cheap and its adhesive wasn't that good. And I forgot
where I got it. :[
Pappy
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Does anyone have a source for the rubber weather stripping used on the
inside edges of the gear doors and the wing straps???
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Analysis |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Iron ~ Cylinder wear, tappet lifter, valve train
Chrome ~ Piston ring wear, camshaft lobe wear
Nickel ~ Rings and cylinder, should run proportional to
chrome
Silver = Master Rod bearing
Aluminium ~ misc. piston wear
Copper ~ Valve guide, "bronze" bushings
Silicon = Dirt from ingestion
Lead ~ low level residue from fuel, high level from Master
Rod.
Yakkers,
Danger readings could result from any contaiminant which
reads sharply higher from the trend line. These engines use
a Single master rod bearing around the crank throw. The
bearing is built up from a Copper base, a Silver layer, and
a protective coating of Lead.
Using a foam/oil filter such as the Brackett filter reduces
Silicon which in turn reduces everything else due to lower
wear. The same is true with using an oil filter. Select a 10
micron absolute with pressure bypass type, it could save
your engine and even your sorry butt!
Modern US aircraft oils are far superior to what was used in
the Motherland. NEVER use automotive oils as many contain
Zinc and Sulfates that eat away at that Lead deposit that
protects the Silver master rod bearing. In my humble
opinion, it doesn't matter whether a single weight or
multi-viscosity oil is used AS LONG AS the engine is
operated withing allowable temperature ranges.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Stripping |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
Ernie,
I was able to find a 3M product at an outlet in Dallas. Any outlet will
do. It was 1/16" thick and 1" wide. The adhesive is fine as long as the
surface is real clean. It's easy to use and comes in a 36' roll. May be
pricey at about $40. But I use the whole roll. In fact, I had to buy
another roll. Gear doors about 12', wing fairings about 30', flap 13'.
You may want to use it on all the fairings. It goes quick.
Jim B
>>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:31:12 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Does anyone have a source for the rubber weather stripping used on the
inside edges of the gear doors and the wing straps???
Ernie
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| Subject: | SNF Room Reservations |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sun 'n Funners,
The block I have on Rooms at the (ZPH) Quality Inn expires
this Sunday, March 20th. There are 5 rooms left on the block
so if you want one, NOW would be a good time. Rate is $63.99
+ tx
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Stripping |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Thanks for all the replies,
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:26:50 -0600, Jim Bernier <JBernier@dart.org> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
> Ernie,
> I was able to find a 3M product at an outlet in Dallas. Any outlet will
> do. It was 1/16" thick and 1" wide. The adhesive is fine as long as the
> surface is real clean. It's easy to use and comes in a 36' roll. May be
> pricey at about $40. But I use the whole roll. In fact, I had to buy
> another roll. Gear doors about 12', wing fairings about 30', flap 13'.
> You may want to use it on all the fairings. It goes quick.
> Jim B
>
> >>> erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:31:12 PM >>>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> Does anyone have a source for the rubber weather stripping used on the
> inside edges of the gear doors and the wing straps???
>
> Ernie
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SNF Room Reservations |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Doc's not coming, but I will forward this to some of the none YAk list RPA'ers
that are planning on coming.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: SNF Room Reservations
--> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sun 'n Funners,
The block I have on Rooms at the (ZPH) Quality Inn expires
this Sunday, March 20th. There are 5 rooms left on the block
so if you want one, NOW would be a good time. Rate is $63.99
+ tx
Craig Payne
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
Other reasons?
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Rick
I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
on the oil as the the bad sample.
On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
>
> Folks;
> I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
>
> My question to you that know:
> @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
>
> Whazzit mean?
>
> Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> statistically the same.
>
> I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
>
> Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass. with
the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to have
much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks looked the
same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and flying
acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the old
actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had rust
and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the gear
just prior to changing.
My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a new one
to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
annually.
On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill weekend in
the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
formation partners locally in DFW.
Ron Wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
Fort Worth, Texas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
We need a box because we are within 4NM of an airway. I'm still not
sure if the box waives the 1500' floor though.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:07:47 -0600 (CST), Jon Boede <jon@email.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
>
> The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
>
> a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
>
> b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
>
> Other reasons?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
All of the below. Plus, two active military AFB's, One Low level IR route, boozos
in ultralights/ light sport A/C, and the next closest controlled acro box is
35 mi south of 08A ( 5 So. of MGM). Once recently, I was at 3000ft on my back
coming through the backside of a loop only to see a T-37 pass below at 1500
VFR direct Maxwell AFB after popping off the low level. Could not decide whether
to call guns, guns, guns on guard or hang and look. I chose hang and look.
This particular day, he was not talking to approach and I was. App. made the call
as I was 1/2 way through the pull.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede <jon@email.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
Other reasons?
Jon
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
More Reasons to Have a legal box.
You would like to be more safe by being able to publish, (or rather, cause
to be published) a NOTAM that details the activity and the date, time and
place where the acro is going to happen.
To allow the acro not only near an airway, but near, or over a controlled
airport with a tower, thus putting things under very positive control and
lowering the possibilities of a mid-air, etc.
To inform ARTCC's, Departure, and Approach Radars of your existance, what
you are doing, etc., etc, again allowing others to help you to avoid traffic
confrontations.
And finally, to help comfort the uninformed when they call the FAA, local
Control Tower, FISDO.. whatever... saying that some crazy person with an
airplane is trying to kill himself right over my house, etc., etc. This
last one, being one of the worst threats there is now-a-days.
Mark
N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon@email.net]
Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
Other reasons?
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Stripping |
--> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear <dabear@damned.org>
Jim,
Do you have a part number or other description?
Al
Jim Bernier wrote:
>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Bernier" <JBernier@dart.org>
>
>Ernie,
>I was able to find a 3M product at an outlet in Dallas. Any outlet will
>do. It was 1/16" thick and 1" wide. The adhesive is fine as long as the
>surface is real clean. It's easy to use and comes in a 36' roll. May be
>pricey at about $40. But I use the whole roll. In fact, I had to buy
>another roll. Gear doors about 12', wing fairings about 30', flap 13'.
>You may want to use it on all the fairings. It goes quick.
>Jim B
>
>
>
>>>>erniel29@gmail.com 3/16/2005 8:31:12 PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
>Does anyone have a source for the rubber weather stripping used on the
>inside edges of the gear doors and the wing straps???
>
>Ernie
>
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
In a message dated 3/17/2005 3:29:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ronwasson@mindspring.com writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson _ronwasson@mindspring.com_
(mailto:ronwasson@mindspring.com)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
My CJ-6A ( 1969 ) has no up locks. If I loose air, the gear drops down
automatically. The gear handle remains up at all time OR the gear will fall down
of course. I know some people think you need to put the gear handle off
each and every time but I've owned my CJ-6 over 10 years and have only changed
the actuator seals once ( just because I wanted to ).
I once found a system diagram in a manual that showed two different
pneumatic systems. One with no up locks and some differences up on the firewall.
Air tool oil is great to keep in the system.
Pappy
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass. with
the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to have
much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks looked the
same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and flying
acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the old
actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had rust
and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the gear
just prior to changing.
My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a new one
to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
annually.
On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill weekend in
the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
formation partners locally in DFW.
Ron Wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
Fort Worth, Texas
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
In reality, hardly anyone reads the NOTAMS and people constantly bust
through our box every day. Its only there so we can legaly do acro, we
still need to keep our eyes wide open, and when the IAC guys go up to
practice, they usually have a set of eyes on the ground to critique
and to look for bogeys.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:56:16 -0500, Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> More Reasons to Have a legal box.
>
> You would like to be more safe by being able to publish, (or rather, cause
> to be published) a NOTAM that details the activity and the date, time and
> place where the acro is going to happen.
>
> To allow the acro not only near an airway, but near, or over a controlled
> airport with a tower, thus putting things under very positive control and
> lowering the possibilities of a mid-air, etc.
>
> To inform ARTCC's, Departure, and Approach Radars of your existance, what
> you are doing, etc., etc, again allowing others to help you to avoid traffic
> confrontations.
>
> And finally, to help comfort the uninformed when they call the FAA, local
> Control Tower, FISDO.. whatever... saying that some crazy person with an
> airplane is trying to kill himself right over my house, etc., etc. This
> last one, being one of the worst threats there is now-a-days.
>
> Mark
> N50YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon@email.net]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
>
> The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
>
> a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
>
> b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
>
> Other reasons?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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| Subject: | oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
Thank you Ron and thank you all for your input. I'll change the oil again
and check this all against the others that I have dating back to 1993.
Rick B
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Rick
I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
on the oil as the the bad sample.
On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
>
> Folks;
> I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
>
> My question to you that know:
> @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
>
> Whazzit mean?
>
> Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> statistically the same.
>
> I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
>
> Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
I keep the handle up too most of the time. But it bugged me that
something could be wrong with a system that would bite me in the ass
and cause me to meet people at the fsdo I never knew. One uplock was in
bad shape even with the tool oil. These aircraft have life limits on
rubber and water soaked bare steel. No air and I wonder where the
locking ball in the actuator goes as the gear comes down. No ball in
hole means all bets are off.
Ron
On Mar 17, 2005, at 5:12 PM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/17/2005 3:29:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ronwasson@mindspring.com writes:
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson _ronwasson@mindspring.com_
> (mailto:ronwasson@mindspring.com)
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My CJ-6A ( 1969 ) has no up locks. If I loose air, the gear drops
> down
> automatically. The gear handle remains up at all time OR the gear
> will fall down
> of course. I know some people think you need to put the gear handle
> off
> each and every time but I've owned my CJ-6 over 10 years and have
> only changed
> the actuator seals once ( just because I wanted to ).
>
> I once found a system diagram in a manual that showed two different
> pneumatic systems. One with no up locks and some differences up on
> the firewall.
>
> Air tool oil is great to keep in the system.
>
> Pappy
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass.
> with
> the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to have
> much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks looked
> the
> same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and flying
> acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the old
> actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had rust
> and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the gear
> just prior to changing.
> My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a new one
> to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
> be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
> been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
> Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
> annually.
> On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill weekend in
> the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
> 4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
> fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
> they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
> formation partners locally in DFW.
> Ron Wasson
> ronwasson@mindspring.com
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Good point.
Brings up another question. Typically, a box is written for one person.
Ernie, have you ever seen a box over an exact same area written for more
than one person, or... a one box for more than one named person? Yes, I now
that "the owner" of a box can allow others to use it, but SUPPOSEDLY he must
be there and he must open and close it. Just wondering how others handle
that.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez [mailto:erniel29@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
In reality, hardly anyone reads the NOTAMS and people constantly bust
through our box every day. Its only there so we can legaly do acro, we
still need to keep our eyes wide open, and when the IAC guys go up to
practice, they usually have a set of eyes on the ground to critique
and to look for bogeys.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:56:16 -0500, Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> More Reasons to Have a legal box.
>
> You would like to be more safe by being able to publish, (or rather, cause
> to be published) a NOTAM that details the activity and the date, time and
> place where the acro is going to happen.
>
> To allow the acro not only near an airway, but near, or over a controlled
> airport with a tower, thus putting things under very positive control and
> lowering the possibilities of a mid-air, etc.
>
> To inform ARTCC's, Departure, and Approach Radars of your existance, what
> you are doing, etc., etc, again allowing others to help you to avoid
traffic
> confrontations.
>
> And finally, to help comfort the uninformed when they call the FAA, local
> Control Tower, FISDO.. whatever... saying that some crazy person with an
> airplane is trying to kill himself right over my house, etc., etc. This
> last one, being one of the worst threats there is now-a-days.
>
> Mark
> N50YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon@email.net]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
>
> The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
>
> a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
>
> b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
>
> Other reasons?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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| Subject: | You won't see this on the nightly news |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
http://adamkeiper.blogs.com/comparevideo/files/Iraq_Election.wmv
I think there's a Yak-11 in the background of one of the shots... :)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
The box belongs to and is administrated by our Local IAC chapter. In
order to "Officially" use it you must be a member. Any one of us has
the authority to open the box to use it. Another caveat is that you
must be a resident of our community, unless invited.
We used to have to open it on a daily basis and request from sunup to
sundown, then it was open to any authorized member. Recently we have
been getting it opened for a month at a time.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:37:44 -0500, Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> Good point.
>
> Brings up another question. Typically, a box is written for one person.
> Ernie, have you ever seen a box over an exact same area written for more
> than one person, or... a one box for more than one named person? Yes, I now
> that "the owner" of a box can allow others to use it, but SUPPOSEDLY he must
> be there and he must open and close it. Just wondering how others handle
> that.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernest Martinez [mailto:erniel29@gmail.com]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> In reality, hardly anyone reads the NOTAMS and people constantly bust
> through our box every day. Its only there so we can legaly do acro, we
> still need to keep our eyes wide open, and when the IAC guys go up to
> practice, they usually have a set of eyes on the ground to critique
> and to look for bogeys.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:56:16 -0500, Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
> <BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
> >
> > More Reasons to Have a legal box.
> >
> > You would like to be more safe by being able to publish, (or rather, cause
> > to be published) a NOTAM that details the activity and the date, time and
> > place where the acro is going to happen.
> >
> > To allow the acro not only near an airway, but near, or over a controlled
> > airport with a tower, thus putting things under very positive control and
> > lowering the possibilities of a mid-air, etc.
> >
> > To inform ARTCC's, Departure, and Approach Radars of your existance, what
> > you are doing, etc., etc, again allowing others to help you to avoid
> traffic
> > confrontations.
> >
> > And finally, to help comfort the uninformed when they call the FAA, local
> > Control Tower, FISDO.. whatever... saying that some crazy person with an
> > airplane is trying to kill himself right over my house, etc., etc. This
> > last one, being one of the worst threats there is now-a-days.
> >
> > Mark
> > N50YK
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon@email.net]
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
> >
> > Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
> >
> > The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
> >
> > a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
> >
> > b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
> >
> > Other reasons?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Alex Belov <belov@iac52.org>
Our waiver holder is our entire IAC chapter. While one person is
"responsible", any pilot in the chapter can active or deactivate the
box. It's so stated in Spec. Provisions. In box 8, "Various Pilots
strictly controlled by IAC Chapter XX, Waiver Holder."
Alex...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich
GS11 Mark G
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
--> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Good point.
Brings up another question. Typically, a box is written for one person.
Ernie, have you ever seen a box over an exact same area written for more
than one person, or... a one box for more than one named person? Yes, I
now
that "the owner" of a box can allow others to use it, but SUPPOSEDLY he
must
be there and he must open and close it. Just wondering how others
handle
that.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez [mailto:erniel29@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
In reality, hardly anyone reads the NOTAMS and people constantly bust
through our box every day. Its only there so we can legaly do acro, we
still need to keep our eyes wide open, and when the IAC guys go up to
practice, they usually have a set of eyes on the ground to critique
and to look for bogeys.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:56:16 -0500, Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G
<BitterlichMG@cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
>
> More Reasons to Have a legal box.
>
> You would like to be more safe by being able to publish, (or rather,
cause
> to be published) a NOTAM that details the activity and the date, time
and
> place where the acro is going to happen.
>
> To allow the acro not only near an airway, but near, or over a
controlled
> airport with a tower, thus putting things under very positive control
and
> lowering the possibilities of a mid-air, etc.
>
> To inform ARTCC's, Departure, and Approach Radars of your existance,
what
> you are doing, etc., etc, again allowing others to help you to avoid
traffic
> confrontations.
>
> And finally, to help comfort the uninformed when they call the FAA,
local
> Control Tower, FISDO.. whatever... saying that some crazy person with
an
> airplane is trying to kill himself right over my house, etc., etc.
This
> last one, being one of the worst threats there is now-a-days.
>
> Mark
> N50YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Boede [mailto:jon@email.net]
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Acro Boxes
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> Since I'm daft, I have to ask this.
>
> The reasons you'd bother with an acro box are:
>
> a) There are too many airways around to have a spot that's not on one.
>
> b) You want to fly below 1,500 AGL.
>
> Other reasons?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
The funny thing here is that Rick had taken on someones suggestion of
discontinuing the use of MMO to see if there was a change. Funny how
that went out the window and we all got consumed by his numbers
instead without regard to the original intent of the experiment.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:47 -0700, Rick Basiliere
<discrab@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
>
> Thank you Ron and thank you all for your input. I'll change the oil again
> and check this all against the others that I have dating back to 1993.
>
> Rick B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> Rick
> I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
> silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
> Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
> maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
> on the oil as the the bad sample.
>
> On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> > <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> >
> > Folks;
> > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
> >
> > My question to you that know:
> > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
> >
> > Whazzit mean?
> >
> > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> > statistically the same.
> >
> > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
> >
> > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
I give up? Do we MMO or do we not?
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
The funny thing here is that Rick had taken on someones suggestion of
discontinuing the use of MMO to see if there was a change. Funny how
that went out the window and we all got consumed by his numbers
instead without regard to the original intent of the experiment.
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:47 -0700, Rick Basiliere
<discrab@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
>
> Thank you Ron and thank you all for your input. I'll change the oil again
> and check this all against the others that I have dating back to 1993.
>
> Rick B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> Rick
> I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
> silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
> Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
> maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
> on the oil as the the bad sample.
>
> On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> > <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> >
> > Folks;
> > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
> >
> > My question to you that know:
> > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
> >
> > Whazzit mean?
> >
> > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> > statistically the same.
> >
> > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
> >
> > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
ooooh noooooo, not again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:31:58 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp
<viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> I give up? Do we MMO or do we not?
> Doc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> The funny thing here is that Rick had taken on someones suggestion of
> discontinuing the use of MMO to see if there was a change. Funny how
> that went out the window and we all got consumed by his numbers
> instead without regard to the original intent of the experiment.
>
> Ernie
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:47 -0700, Rick Basiliere
> <discrab@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Thank you Ron and thank you all for your input. I'll change the oil again
> > and check this all against the others that I have dating back to 1993.
> >
> > Rick B
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Rick
> > I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
> > silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
> > Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
> > maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
> > on the oil as the the bad sample.
> >
> > On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> > > <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> > >
> > > Folks;
> > > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> > > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> > > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
> > >
> > > My question to you that know:
> > > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> > > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> > > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
> > >
> > > Whazzit mean?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> > > statistically the same.
> > >
> > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
> > >
> > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Okay Yakers,
Why do we monitor CHT on the #4 cylinder? I have landed and checked my CHT with
a laser thermometer immeadiately after shutdown. I shut down at 170deg.C with
oil temp at 50deg.C. The laser temp on #9, 1, 2 were all above 240 to 260deg.C.
There have not been any modifications made to my engine shroud,cowling,or shutters.
The Intake collars are all tight as are the exhaust collars. I have a
YAK-52 with the stock M-14P.
I can not find the answer in my translated M-14 manual.
Answers?
Doc
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| Subject: | Re: new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
What did cylinder #4 say on the laser thermometer?
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:42:11 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp
<viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Okay Yakers,
> Why do we monitor CHT on the #4 cylinder? I have landed and checked my CHT with
a laser thermometer immeadiately after shutdown. I shut down at 170deg.C with
oil temp at 50deg.C. The laser temp on #9, 1, 2 were all above 240 to 260deg.C.
There have not been any modifications made to my engine shroud,cowling,or
shutters. The Intake collars are all tight as are the exhaust collars. I have
a YAK-52 with the stock M-14P.
> I can not find the answer in my translated M-14 manual.
> Answers?
> Doc
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil analysis - HELP |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Hey, you reminded us why that thread got started but we never solved the issue.
I do know a hell of a lot more about may oil analysis now though.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
ooooh noooooo, not again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:31:58 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp
<viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> I give up? Do we MMO or do we not?
> Doc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>
> The funny thing here is that Rick had taken on someones suggestion of
> discontinuing the use of MMO to see if there was a change. Funny how
> that went out the window and we all got consumed by his numbers
> instead without regard to the original intent of the experiment.
>
> Ernie
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:47 -0700, Rick Basiliere
> <discrab@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rick Basiliere" <discrab@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Thank you Ron and thank you all for your input. I'll change the oil again
> > and check this all against the others that I have dating back to 1993.
> >
> > Rick B
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ron wasson
> > To: yak-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: oil analysis - HELP
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Rick
> > I have oil samples from 1998. All have been 15-20 iron, 1 chrome, 0
> > silver. Double could mean trouble. You seem to have enough for trend.
> > Resample to see if it is rising fast or a fluke. I would take a sample
> > maybe after 5 hours running and if normal then again at the same hours
> > on the oil as the the bad sample.
> >
> > On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Richard Basiliere wrote:
> >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere"
> > > <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
> > >
> > > Folks;
> > > I took the oil analysis challenge offered earlier. The same outfit has
> > > been doing mine since new. All I have are the last 3 to compare right
> > > now, though. No MMO, 19 hours since last change. 25w-60 oil
> > >
> > > My question to you that know:
> > > @501 hours 15.7 iron, 1.8 Chromium, 0.0 silver
> > > @602 23.7 iron, 1.7 Chromium, 0.0 Silver
> > > @767 (the latest) 41.3 iron, 3.6 Chromium, 1.0 silver
> > >
> > > Whazzit mean?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help. All the rest of the "stuff" remained
> > > statistically the same.
> > >
> > > I can fax this analysis to anyone who would care to diagnose.
> > >
> > > Ricky B SU-29, rode hard but never put away wet
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: You won't see this on the nightly news |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Walt Fricke <walterfricke@yahoo.com>
Barry, That's not fair! You got me to watch something way off topic thru sheer
trickery. But the video was well worth it. (ran thru it four times looking
for the Yak 11 before I tumbled on to your slick trick....you rascal!
Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org> wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock
http://adamkeiper.blogs.com/comparevideo/files/Iraq_Election.wmv
I think there's a Yak-11 in the background of one of the shots... :)
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Ron
When repacking your uplocks, or any air operated actuator, I would
suggest using a good marine grease......like the stuff designed for
wheel bearings on boat trailers that see salt water. It resists the
effects of water and helps keep things from rusting or corroding.
During my recent annual, I disassembled an uplock to inspect for water
damage (this is a good place to look to determine the general condition
of your system). A little bit of dirty water was in the uplock but the
uplock internals looked new. The water didn't penetrate or displace the
grease. In other words, water was kept from affecting the metal parts.
Regards
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wasson
Subject: Yak-List: uplocks
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass. with
the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to have
much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks looked the
same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and flying
acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the old
actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had rust
and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the gear
just prior to changing.
My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a new
one
to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
annually.
On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill
weekend in
the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
formation partners locally in DFW.
Ron Wasson
ronwasson@mindspring.com
Fort Worth, Texas
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| Subject: | Re: new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
It varied. Generally it was 180 to 200 deg. I was doing the laser thermometer thing
on all 9 trying to track down a cold cylinder causing a rough engine. Turned
out I had a leaking exhaust valve on #2. But, that was not what caught my
attention. The marked difference in temp on the top 3 cylinders vs the other 6.
Fact of the matter is, there was 20 to 30 deg difference between all the cylinders.
CHT was not uniform for any cylinder of the 9. The bottom 5 were closer
than the top 4.
I will get a chance to fly tomorrow. I will recheck the CHT's with the laser and
let you know tomorrow night.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: new thread-Why monitor CHT on #4
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
What did cylinder #4 say on the laser thermometer?
Ernie
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:42:11 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp
<viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
>
> Okay Yakers,
> Why do we monitor CHT on the #4 cylinder? I have landed and checked my CHT with
a laser thermometer immeadiately after shutdown. I shut down at 170deg.C with
oil temp at 50deg.C. The laser temp on #9, 1, 2 were all above 240 to 260deg.C.
There have not been any modifications made to my engine shroud,cowling,or
shutters. The Intake collars are all tight as are the exhaust collars. I have
a YAK-52 with the stock M-14P.
> I can not find the answer in my translated M-14 manual.
> Answers?
> Doc
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Overhaul manual states castor oil or hyd. fluid 10. Airtool oil seems
close and is rated on O rings. I wonder if over time the grease would
harden and hangup the small up lock actuator. I have seen some very
hard grease on cars. Changing the grease on annual would work but I
intend to leave them alone for 4 or 5 years or never if a new owner
comes along.
Ron
On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Ron
> When repacking your uplocks, or any air operated actuator, I would
> suggest using a good marine grease......like the stuff designed for
> wheel bearings on boat trailers that see salt water. It resists the
> effects of water and helps keep things from rusting or corroding.
>
> During my recent annual, I disassembled an uplock to inspect for water
> damage (this is a good place to look to determine the general condition
> of your system). A little bit of dirty water was in the uplock but the
> uplock internals looked new. The water didn't penetrate or displace the
> grease. In other words, water was kept from affecting the metal parts.
>
> Regards
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
> L71
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wasson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: uplocks
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass. with
> the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to have
> much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks looked the
> same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and flying
> acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the old
> actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had rust
> and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the gear
> just prior to changing.
> My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a
> new
> one
> to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
> be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
> been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
> Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
> annually.
> On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill
> weekend in
> the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
> 4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
> fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
> they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
> formation partners locally in DFW.
> Ron Wasson
>
> ronwasson@mindspring.com
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Ron
The overhaul manual recommends a complete teardown and inspection of the
air system at 500 hours (YAK-52) because corrosion could be
present.....even though you're using the recommended oils.
Some oils do a poor job of displacing moisture and some hydraulic fluids
can be hydroscopic.... Be careful.
Marine grease was used in rebuilding my actuators, uplocks and check
valves back in 2001.
4 years and nearly 300 flight hours and, so far, no "hardening of the
grease" and no "corrosion".
Do what you think is right.
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
L71
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wasson
Subject: Re: Yak-List: uplocks
--> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Overhaul manual states castor oil or hyd. fluid 10. Airtool oil seems
close and is rated on O rings. I wonder if over time the grease would
harden and hangup the small up lock actuator. I have seen some very
hard grease on cars. Changing the grease on annual would work but I
intend to leave them alone for 4 or 5 years or never if a new owner
comes along.
Ron
On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Frank Haertlein wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Ron
> When repacking your uplocks, or any air operated actuator, I would
> suggest using a good marine grease......like the stuff designed for
> wheel bearings on boat trailers that see salt water. It resists the
> effects of water and helps keep things from rusting or corroding.
>
> During my recent annual, I disassembled an uplock to inspect for water
> damage (this is a good place to look to determine the general
> condition of your system). A little bit of dirty water was in the
> uplock but the uplock internals looked new. The water didn't penetrate
> or displace the grease. In other words, water was kept from affecting
> the metal parts.
>
> Regards
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
> L71
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron wasson
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: uplocks
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: ron wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> Just changed the up-locks on my CJ-6A. This included the hook ass.
> with the actuator. Getting off the AC was easy. New hooks seemed to
> have much more spring tension the old hooks. Springs on the hooks
> looked the same. Gear would fall down if the handle was in neutral and
> flying acro. Gear now stays up during acro even in neutral. Inside the
> old actuators was a mixed bag. One looked decent but the others had
> rust and pits in the cylinders. They seemed to work just fine on the
> gear just prior to changing.
> My next project is to overhaul my gear actuators. I bought a
> new
> one
> to put on first and overhaul the others in sequence as I go. They may
> be as bad as the the up-locks. Will report back. The check valves have
> been cleaned every annual and never looked as bad as the up-locks.
> Air-tool oil has been used on the pump filter, check valves and tanks
> annually.
> On a lighter note we are trying to get up a monthly drill
> weekend in
> the DFW area for Yaks. We now have
> 4 who fly form a lot and two new guys. One person with a F15 and
> fighter lead in instructor background is willing to teach new guys if
> they have their own Yak. He personally owns a Yak 52 and wants more
> formation partners locally in DFW.
> Ron Wasson
>
> ronwasson@mindspring.com
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
>
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| Subject: | PRB FAST clinic IP help |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
With the Paso Robles FAST clinic just two weeks away (April 1-3), we
are still short instructor pilots and are looking for a check airman
as well.
If you or anyone you know (FAST qualified, not necessarily RPA tho')
would like to come to the clinic to help instruct, please have them
contact me directly. We'll make sure they don't buy a drink all
weekend!
Thanks!
Barry
Barry Hancock
Western Regional Coordinator
RedStar Pilots Association
(949) 300-5510
www.flyredstar.org
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