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Sun 03/27/05


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 08:36 AM - Re: TV (Roger Kemp)
     2. 09:06 AM - Re: TV (Tim Gagnon)
     3. 10:13 AM - Re: Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic 29,30 Apr-1 May 05 (Yakjock)
     4. 12:43 PM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg)
     5. 01:35 PM - Re: TV (Ernest Martinez)
     6. 02:19 PM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Robert Starnes)
     7. 03:13 PM - Re: TV (Tim Gagnon)
     8. 04:04 PM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg)
     9. 04:25 PM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg)
    10. 05:01 PM - Re: Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic 29,30 Apr-1 May 05 (Roger Kemp)
    11. 05:52 PM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Doug Sapp)
    12. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: TV (Roger Kemp)
    13. 07:32 PM - Kt76A pinout (Doug Sapp)
    14. 08:26 PM -  (dave@davelaird.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:36:51 AM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: TV
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Me too. May piss some members off along the way, but we seem to be doing it for the most part right. After all we do this for fun not the bucks. But our buts depend on us doing it safely. Doc -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Subject: Yak-List: TV --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> I'm in the middle of a commercial break on part 3 of the Blue Angles Shows on the Military Channel, as are most of you :). I was given a copy of Pilot Journal today with a special article on CJ's today. I was "amused" by some of the "facts" and statistics on the airplane, but otherwise a nice read. I am really starting to miss the fact that I'm gonna miss S&F this year with my airplane due to its cosmetic overhaul that I have embarked on but I think its gonna be worth it. Watching the T-Bird show gives me a new found appreciation for the military influenced professionalism that the RPA brings to its events. Being a civilian pilot who has been through RPA's events gives me a different viewpoint and respect to what the "Pros" do in real life. How bought we work on a vertical break like the Blues. Just wanted to say "I'm proud to be a Red Star Pilot"!!! Ernie


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    Time: 09:06:45 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: TV
    Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:05:56 -0500 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> Hey, I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was really impressed with it. As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN MY OPINION, the Blues put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. Having done a few shows on that side of the fence, they are all pretty good guys too...plus they use a Herk! I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax film Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) It basically follows a F-15 driver through his first trip to Nellis AFB for Red Flag. If you think you are going to see a documentary about the pilot and Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot of Hollywood in it which, IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer generated stuff and big Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush level, flares being popped all over the place (some look like they were salvo'ed and there was very little maneuvering following their deployment). Imax's are usually pretty stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes but that is about it. Just way too much Hollywood. I would be interested to hear from those that have attended Red Flag and get their impression on the film. Regards, Tim PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection of the greatest aviation films of all time. Any thoughts....


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    Time: 10:13:39 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic 29,30 Apr-1 May 05
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> For the Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic are they requiring participants to be CAF members? Membership is required for the events in California. Just curious. Batman


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    Time: 12:43:45 PM PST US
    From: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net>
    Subject: Re: Don Glittenberg
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net> Does anyone know what the correct recommended substance is to put in the pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I have heard everything from alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. Don Glittenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > Hey, > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was really impressed with it. As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN MY OPINION, the Blues put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. Having done a few shows on that side of the fence, they are all pretty good guys too...plus they use a Herk! > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax film Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) It basically follows a F-15 driver through his first trip to Nellis AFB for Red Flag. If you think you are going to see a documentary about the pilot and Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot of Hollywood in it which, IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer generated stuff and big Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush level, flares being popped all over the place (some look like they were salvo'ed and there was very little maneuvering following their deployment). Imax's are usually pretty stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes but that is about it. Just way too much Hollywood. > > I would be interested to hear from those that have attended Red Flag and get their impression on the film. > > Regards, > > Tim > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection of the greatest aviation films of all time. Any thoughts.... > >


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    Time: 01:35:33 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: TV
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> Its on the military channel, dont know the schedule though. Ernie On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:36:06 -0600 (GMT-06:00), Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> > > Me too. May piss some members off along the way, but we seem to be doing it for the most part right. After all we do this for fun not the bucks. But our buts depend on us doing it safely. > Doc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: TV > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> > > I'm in the middle of a commercial break on part 3 of the Blue Angles > Shows on the Military Channel, as are most of you :). > > I was given a copy of Pilot Journal today with a special article on > CJ's today. I was "amused" by some of the "facts" and statistics on > the airplane, but otherwise a nice read. > > I am really starting to miss the fact that I'm gonna miss S&F this > year with my airplane due to its cosmetic overhaul that I have > embarked on but I think its gonna be worth it. Watching the T-Bird > show gives me a new found appreciation for the military influenced > professionalism that the RPA brings to its events. Being a civilian > pilot who has been through RPA's events gives me a different viewpoint > and respect to what the "Pros" do in real life. > > How bought we work on a vertical break like the Blues. > > Just wanted to say "I'm proud to be a Red Star Pilot"!!! > > Ernie > > >


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    Time: 02:19:28 PM PST US
    From: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Don Glittenberg
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I add it to. BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, I anticipate the contractor being done with the new hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes --- Don Glittenberg <auxtank@boldwireless.net> wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > <auxtank@boldwireless.net> > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > substance is to put in the > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > have heard everything from > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > Don Glittenberg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > To: "yak-list" <Yak-List@matronics.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > > > Hey, > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > really impressed with it. > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > MY OPINION, the Blues > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > Having done a few shows on > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > guys too...plus they use a > Herk! > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > film Fighter Pilot: > Operation Red Flag > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) > It > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > documentary about the pilot and > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > of Hollywood in it which, > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > generated stuff and big > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > level, flares being popped > all over the place (some look like they were > salvo'ed and there was very > little maneuvering following their deployment). > Imax's are usually pretty > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > but that is about it. > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > attended Red Flag and > get their impression on the film. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > of the greatest aviation > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:13:22 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: TV
    Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:55:43 -0500 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> That last post got all jacked up, sorry. I think it was the link that did it. Here is the link http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/> Hey, I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was really impressed with it. As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN MY OPINION, the Blues put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. Having done a few shows on that side of the fence, they are all pretty good guys too...plus they use a Herk! I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax film Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag. It basically follows a F-15 driver through his first trip to Nellis AFB for Red Flag. If you think you are going to see a documentary about the pilot and Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot of Hollywood in it which, IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer generated stuff and big Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush level, flares being popped all over the place (some look like they were salvo'ed and there was very little maneuvering following their deployment). Imax's are usually pretty stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes but that is about it. Just way too much Hollywood. I would be interested to hear from those that have attended Red Flag and get their impression on the film. Regards, Tim PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection of the greatest aviation films of all time. Any thoughts....


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    Time: 04:04:01 PM PST US
    From: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net>
    Subject: Re: Don Glittenberg
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net> Robert, Thanks for the information. Along those lines, could you think of any reason why NOT to use the glycerin/denatured alcohol mix that the Russians use, in addition to the compressor oil? By the way, where are you located and do you have a 50 or 52? I have a Yak 50 and am located NE of Decatur, Texas. Don Glittenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Starnes" <a35plt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > add it to. > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > --- Don Glittenberg <auxtank@boldwireless.net> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > <auxtank@boldwireless.net> > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > substance is to put in the > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > have heard everything from > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > Don Glittenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > To: "yak-list" <Yak-List@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > really impressed with it. > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > Having done a few shows on > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > guys too...plus they use a > > Herk! > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > film Fighter Pilot: > > Operation Red Flag > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) > > It > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > documentary about the pilot and > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > of Hollywood in it which, > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > generated stuff and big > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > level, flares being popped > > all over the place (some look like they were > > salvo'ed and there was very > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > Imax's are usually pretty > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > but that is about it. > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > attended Red Flag and > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > of the greatest aviation > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:25:22 PM PST US
    From: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net>
    Subject: Re: Don Glittenberg
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net> Robert, I just re-read your email and if I'm not mistaken LZU is in Georgia. Did you happen to know Cris Smisson? Don Glittenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Starnes" <a35plt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > add it to. > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > --- Don Glittenberg <auxtank@boldwireless.net> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > <auxtank@boldwireless.net> > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > substance is to put in the > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > have heard everything from > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > Don Glittenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > To: "yak-list" <Yak-List@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > really impressed with it. > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > Having done a few shows on > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > guys too...plus they use a > > Herk! > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > film Fighter Pilot: > > Operation Red Flag > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) > > It > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > documentary about the pilot and > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > of Hollywood in it which, > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > generated stuff and big > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > level, flares being popped > > all over the place (some look like they were > > salvo'ed and there was very > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > Imax's are usually pretty > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > but that is about it. > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > attended Red Flag and > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > of the greatest aviation > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:01:15 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic 29,30 Apr-1 May 05
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Batman, They have not said for sure yet. They are looking at the fact that we will have our on RPA check pilot and FAST lead/ rec pilots there with us. If we have to guess we could do it on our on without them. I am already a member of the CAF so it is not a big deal for me, but it could be for others. Doc -----Original Message----- From: Yakjock <Yakjock@msn.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic 29,30 Apr-1 May 05 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> For the Dixie Wing CAF FAST clinic are they requiring participants to be CAF members? Membership is required for the events in California. Just curious. Batman


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    Time: 05:52:00 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Don Glittenberg
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> As you may or not know Glycerin is one of the prime chemicals used in preserving flowers. I buy it in semi quantities each spring. We use only USP grade (we even have some drums of Kosher glycerin if you feel so inclined. We also use alcohol in one of our processes, but due to the flammable nature of the stuff I think it best for you to get it locally and not try to ship it. Glycerin on the other hand is not flammable is classed as benign and has no problem moving via UPS or the mail. So, if I can be of help contact me off list. Consider: Glycerin is one of a group of humectants (meaning it draws humidity/moisture). Alcohol will also absorb water. I'm not a Yak 52 guy and I know zip about it's systems, but I do know these two chemicals very well, and they both would most assuredly aid in removing moisture from the system. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" <auxtank@boldwireless.net> Robert, Thanks for the information. Along those lines, could you think of any reason why NOT to use the glycerin/denatured alcohol mix that the Russians use, in addition to the compressor oil? By the way, where are you located and do you have a 50 or 52? I have a Yak 50 and am located NE of Decatur, Texas. Don Glittenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Starnes" <a35plt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes <a35plt@yahoo.com> > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > add it to. > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > --- Don Glittenberg <auxtank@boldwireless.net> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > <auxtank@boldwireless.net> > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > substance is to put in the > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > have heard everything from > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > Don Glittenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > To: "yak-list" <Yak-List@matronics.com> > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > <NiftyYak50@msn.com> > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > really impressed with it. > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > Having done a few shows on > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > guys too...plus they use a > > Herk! > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > film Fighter Pilot: > > Operation Red Flag > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) > > It > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > documentary about the pilot and > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > of Hollywood in it which, > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > generated stuff and big > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > level, flares being popped > > all over the place (some look like they were > > salvo'ed and there was very > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > Imax's are usually pretty > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > but that is about it. > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > attended Red Flag and > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > of the greatest aviation > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:04:01 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: TV
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com> Tim, I have been to Red Flag x2 and Green Flag once. From the teasers on that website, it is to much "Hollywood". Some of the flying looked good but like all the aviation War movies, Hollywood screws it up. I liked "Top Gun". But, that is only for the aviation scenes. The rest of the story is BS. Another good war movie is " Battle of Britian". Again the movie makers take to much "litarary privilage" and fake it up. " 12 O'Clock" high is also good. Agian for the B-17 footage in combat. "Memphis Bell" the War Department documentary not the Hollywoood movie of recient is a good movie also. It comes closer to being on the point than any. But they had the help of Hollywood therefore there a level of BS included. Depressing huh? I have never heard a 500, 1000, or 2000 lb'er explode from the cockpit. Nice flash on the ground when your pulling off the range looking back over your shoulder though. The 'Grunts" say its pretty loud. You do hear the vulcan 20 mm fire ( and feel it in your left but cheek). Kinda sounds and feels like a jack hammer burst. The Hollywood types can't get the radio calls correct either in the above movies. That's my opinion for what it is worth. Doc -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@msn.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@msn.com> Hey, I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was really impressed with it. As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN MY OPINION, the Blues put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. Having done a few shows on that side of the fence, they are all pretty good guys too...plus they use a Herk! I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax film Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/<http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/>) It basically follows a F-15 driver through his first trip to Nellis AFB for Red Flag. If you think you are going to see a documentary about the pilot and Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot of Hollywood in it which, IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer generated stuff and big Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush level, flares being popped all over the place (some look like they were salvo'ed and there was very little maneuvering following their deployment). Imax's are usually pretty stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes but that is about it. Just way too much Hollywood. I would be interested to hear from those that have attended Red Flag and get their impression on the film. Regards, Tim PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection of the greatest aviation films of all time. Any thoughts....


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    From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com>
    Subject: Kt76A pinout
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd@televar.com> Anyone out there have the pinout for a King Kt76A transponder that I could mooch off them? Always Yakin, Doug Sapp


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    --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com Doug, I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data Hope it helps... Dave Laird N63536 CJ6A "Betty" Dallas




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