---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/29/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:14 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 (Don Glittenberg) 2. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 (Doug Sapp) 3. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 (Don Glittenberg) 4. 02:59 PM - Sun and Fun (Rob Mortara) 5. 05:36 PM - All Red Star registration (Barry Hancock) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:09 AM PST US From: "Don Glittenberg" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" Question! Does the glycerin or alcohol absorb the water as H2O, or is it chemically combined with it? In other words, is the water still water or something else? Will it still cause corrosion? Don G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yak-List Digest Server" Subject: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 03/28/05: 11 > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg) > 2. 07:15 AM - Slordig (Thunderbolt) > 3. 07:32 AM - spark plugs (p.goswick) > 4. 08:08 AM - Re: (Doug Sapp) > 5. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Avionic Faceplates (Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers) > 6. 09:08 AM - Re: spark plugs (Roger Kemp) > 7. 11:01 AM - YAK-List: Re: KT-76 (Frank Stelwagon) > 8. 12:52 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure () > 9. 07:06 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure (Yak52) > 10. 08:37 PM - RPA Store Spring Sale (ByronMFox@aol.com) > 11. 08:51 PM - Re: RPA Store Spring Sale (Gary Reynolds) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:59:16 AM PST US > From: "Don Glittenberg" > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > Great info, > Thanks a bunch. That's what I needed to know. I think I'll do as the > Russians do...alcohol & glycerin. > Don G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > As you may or not know Glycerin is one of the prime chemicals used in > > preserving flowers. I buy it in semi quantities each spring. We use only > > USP grade (we even have some drums of Kosher glycerin if you feel so > > inclined. We also use alcohol in one of our processes, but due to the > > flammable nature of the stuff I think it best for you to get it locally > and > > not try to ship it. Glycerin on the other hand is not flammable is > classed > > as benign and has no problem moving via UPS or the mail. So, if I can be > of > > help contact me off list. > > > > Consider: Glycerin is one of a group of humectants (meaning it draws > > humidity/moisture). Alcohol will also absorb water. I'm not a Yak 52 guy > > and I know zip about it's systems, but I do know these two chemicals very > > well, and they both would most assuredly aid in removing moisture from the > > system. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > Robert, > > Thanks for the information. Along those lines, could you think of any > > reason why NOT to use the glycerin/denatured alcohol mix that the Russians > > use, in addition to the compressor oil? By the way, where are you located > > and do you have a 50 or 52? I have a Yak 50 and am located NE of Decatur, > > Texas. > > Don Glittenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Starnes" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes > > > > > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > > > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > > > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > > > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > > > add it to. > > > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > > > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > > > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > > > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > > > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > > > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > > > > > > > --- Don Glittenberg wrote: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > > > substance is to put in the > > > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > > > have heard everything from > > > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > > > Don Glittenberg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > To: "yak-list" > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > > > really impressed with it. > > > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > > > Having done a few shows on > > > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > > > guys too...plus they use a > > > > Herk! > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > > > film Fighter Pilot: > > > > Operation Red Flag > > > > > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/) > > > > It > > > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > > > documentary about the pilot and > > > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > > > of Hollywood in it which, > > > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > > > generated stuff and big > > > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > > > level, flares being popped > > > > all over the place (some look like they were > > > > salvo'ed and there was very > > > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > > > Imax's are usually pretty > > > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > > > but that is about it. > > > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > > > attended Red Flag and > > > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > > > of the greatest aviation > > > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > > > Subscriptions page, > > > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:15:33 AM PST US > From: "Thunderbolt" > Subject: Yak-List: Slordig > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Thunderbolt" > > > Slordig > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:32:49 AM PST US > From: "p.goswick" > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you gapping > your plugs at. > Thanks > Phil > Tulsa, Ok > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:08:48 AM PST US > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts for > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > This list is great!! > > Thanks again, best to all. > > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > dave@davelaird.com > Subject: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > Doug, > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > Hope it helps... > > Dave Laird > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > Dallas > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:53:51 AM PST US > From: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: Avionic Faceplates > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > > Doug, > > We don't have new faceplates but we do make faceplate inserts for the older > avionics. > See http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fp_list.htm for a listing of the > styles we make and > for the KT-76A's which there are two styles see > http://www.engravers.net/faceplates/king/kt76a-1to2.htm > > > Wayne Cahoon > Aircraft Engravers > (860) 653-2780 > (860) 653-7324 Fax > http://www.engravers.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts for > > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > > This list is great!! > > > > Thanks again, best to all. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > dave@davelaird.com > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > > > Doug, > > > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > > > Hope it helps... > > > > Dave Laird > > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > > Dallas > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:08:57 AM PST US > From: Roger Kemp > Subject: Re: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp > > contact Dennis Savarese @ DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM (YAK52 World). He has been flying > with the Plug wire/US auto plug conversion for about 30 hours now. He has > no complaints. Has about convenced me to do the same. Problem is I just bought > a new set of Chinese plug and have less than 100 hours on them. Will make the > conversion when these $480 plug wear out. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: "p.goswick" > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you gapping > your plugs at. > Thanks > Phil > Tulsa, Ok > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:01:45 AM PST US > From: "Frank Stelwagon" > Subject: Yak-List: YAK-List: RE: KT-76 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" > > Doug, > > Take a look at the Chief Aircraft Catalog (page 5 in the 2003 Catalog) they have > faceplates for the KT-76 A listed. > > Frank CJ6-A N23021 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:52:35 PM PST US > From: > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > Deon, > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the crankcase. > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > Like to hear about your findings now. > Thanks, > > Lieven B. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yak52" > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > Q question to all, > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > oil > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > it > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > drained > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deon. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:06:57 PM PST US > From: "Yak52" > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > In my view 1/2 liter per day is a lot - mine would sometimes have 1/4 liter > or less if I left it standing for even more than a week, and only sometimes. > What prompted me to strip the oil pump was more inspection and to check on > the valve. > > The valve was fine - oil pump was clean, but the oil reservoir and pipes > where filthy. So that alone made it worth my while to clean everything out. > I switched from 100W to 25W60 and decided to clean everything and inspect > with the oil change. Sounds to me you have a stuck or clogged valve. > > The complete process took a weekend - I made a special tool by modifying a > wrench to get into the narrow spaces to remove the oil pump. Also had to > remove the generator to get the oil reservoir out. Although quite an effort > it was worth it for me. > > Thanks to Dave Petri's advice I filled the pipes from the reservoir to the > oil pump with oil before stating the engine, Oil pressure was up and good > seconds after the engine started. > > Deon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > lie.buyse@pandora.be > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > Deon, > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the crankcase. > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > Like to hear about your findings now. > Thanks, > > Lieven B. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yak52" > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > Q question to all, > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > oil > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > it > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > drained > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deon. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:37:12 PM PST US > From: ByronMFox@aol.com > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat shirts > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 MTW > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send me a > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > ...Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > The RPA Store > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:51:59 PM PST US > From: Gary Reynolds > Subject: RE: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gary Reynolds > > Gday Byron > I would like to order a sweat shirt if i could > Regards Gary Reynolds > South Aust President > Antique Aeroplane Association of Australia > 24 Milan Crescent > Hackham West SA 5163 > ph/wk 08 8301 3343 > ph/hm 08 8384 8464 > fax 08 8301 3370 > mob 0417 899 343 > email gary.reynolds@hills.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ByronMFox@aol.com [mailto:ByronMFox@aol.com] > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat > shirts > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 > MTW > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send me > a > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > ...Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > The RPA Store > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:06 AM PST US From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" Don, It is my understanding that the water is held in suspension in the gly and alcohol mix. Normally there should be no danger of corrosion. But the mixture will at some point in time reach a saturation point where it cannot absorb any more water and will need to be replaced, at that point it may cause some rust or corrosion on metal parts. What's the normal change interval? I don't have a clue, I would think it would depend on the humidity in your area. Always Yakin, Doug Sapp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" Question! Does the glycerin or alcohol absorb the water as H2O, or is it chemically combined with it? In other words, is the water still water or something else? Will it still cause corrosion? Don G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yak-List Digest Server" Subject: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 03/28/05: 11 > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg) > 2. 07:15 AM - Slordig (Thunderbolt) > 3. 07:32 AM - spark plugs (p.goswick) > 4. 08:08 AM - Re: (Doug Sapp) > 5. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Avionic Faceplates (Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers) > 6. 09:08 AM - Re: spark plugs (Roger Kemp) > 7. 11:01 AM - YAK-List: Re: KT-76 (Frank Stelwagon) > 8. 12:52 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure () > 9. 07:06 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure (Yak52) > 10. 08:37 PM - RPA Store Spring Sale (ByronMFox@aol.com) > 11. 08:51 PM - Re: RPA Store Spring Sale (Gary Reynolds) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:59:16 AM PST US > From: "Don Glittenberg" > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > Great info, > Thanks a bunch. That's what I needed to know. I think I'll do as the > Russians do...alcohol & glycerin. > Don G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > As you may or not know Glycerin is one of the prime chemicals used in > > preserving flowers. I buy it in semi quantities each spring. We use only > > USP grade (we even have some drums of Kosher glycerin if you feel so > > inclined. We also use alcohol in one of our processes, but due to the > > flammable nature of the stuff I think it best for you to get it locally > and > > not try to ship it. Glycerin on the other hand is not flammable is > classed > > as benign and has no problem moving via UPS or the mail. So, if I can be > of > > help contact me off list. > > > > Consider: Glycerin is one of a group of humectants (meaning it draws > > humidity/moisture). Alcohol will also absorb water. I'm not a Yak 52 guy > > and I know zip about it's systems, but I do know these two chemicals very > > well, and they both would most assuredly aid in removing moisture from the > > system. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > Robert, > > Thanks for the information. Along those lines, could you think of any > > reason why NOT to use the glycerin/denatured alcohol mix that the Russians > > use, in addition to the compressor oil? By the way, where are you located > > and do you have a 50 or 52? I have a Yak 50 and am located NE of Decatur, > > Texas. > > Don Glittenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Starnes" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes > > > > > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > > > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > > > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > > > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > > > add it to. > > > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > > > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > > > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > > > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > > > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > > > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > > > > > > > --- Don Glittenberg wrote: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > > > substance is to put in the > > > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > > > have heard everything from > > > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > > > Don Glittenberg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > To: "yak-list" > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > > > really impressed with it. > > > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > > > Having done a few shows on > > > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > > > guys too...plus they use a > > > > Herk! > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > > > film Fighter Pilot: > > > > Operation Red Flag > > > > > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/) > > > > It > > > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > > > documentary about the pilot and > > > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > > > of Hollywood in it which, > > > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > > > generated stuff and big > > > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > > > level, flares being popped > > > > all over the place (some look like they were > > > > salvo'ed and there was very > > > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > > > Imax's are usually pretty > > > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > > > but that is about it. > > > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > > > attended Red Flag and > > > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > > > of the greatest aviation > > > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > > > Subscriptions page, > > > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:15:33 AM PST US > From: "Thunderbolt" > Subject: Yak-List: Slordig > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Thunderbolt" > > > Slordig > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:32:49 AM PST US > From: "p.goswick" > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you gapping > your plugs at. > Thanks > Phil > Tulsa, Ok > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:08:48 AM PST US > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts for > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > This list is great!! > > Thanks again, best to all. > > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > dave@davelaird.com > Subject: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > Doug, > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > Hope it helps... > > Dave Laird > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > Dallas > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:53:51 AM PST US > From: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: Avionic Faceplates > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > > Doug, > > We don't have new faceplates but we do make faceplate inserts for the older > avionics. > See http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fp_list.htm for a listing of the > styles we make and > for the KT-76A's which there are two styles see > http://www.engravers.net/faceplates/king/kt76a-1to2.htm > > > Wayne Cahoon > Aircraft Engravers > (860) 653-2780 > (860) 653-7324 Fax > http://www.engravers.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Sapp" > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts for > > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > > This list is great!! > > > > Thanks again, best to all. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > dave@davelaird.com > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > > > Doug, > > > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > > > Hope it helps... > > > > Dave Laird > > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > > Dallas > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:08:57 AM PST US > From: Roger Kemp > Subject: Re: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp > > contact Dennis Savarese @ DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM (YAK52 World). He has been flying > with the Plug wire/US auto plug conversion for about 30 hours now. He has > no complaints. Has about convenced me to do the same. Problem is I just bought > a new set of Chinese plug and have less than 100 hours on them. Will make the > conversion when these $480 plug wear out. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: "p.goswick" > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you gapping > your plugs at. > Thanks > Phil > Tulsa, Ok > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:01:45 AM PST US > From: "Frank Stelwagon" > Subject: Yak-List: YAK-List: RE: KT-76 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" > > Doug, > > Take a look at the Chief Aircraft Catalog (page 5 in the 2003 Catalog) they have > faceplates for the KT-76 A listed. > > Frank CJ6-A N23021 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:52:35 PM PST US > From: > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > Deon, > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the crankcase. > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > Like to hear about your findings now. > Thanks, > > Lieven B. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yak52" > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > Q question to all, > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > oil > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > it > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > drained > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deon. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:06:57 PM PST US > From: "Yak52" > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > In my view 1/2 liter per day is a lot - mine would sometimes have 1/4 liter > or less if I left it standing for even more than a week, and only sometimes. > What prompted me to strip the oil pump was more inspection and to check on > the valve. > > The valve was fine - oil pump was clean, but the oil reservoir and pipes > where filthy. So that alone made it worth my while to clean everything out. > I switched from 100W to 25W60 and decided to clean everything and inspect > with the oil change. Sounds to me you have a stuck or clogged valve. > > The complete process took a weekend - I made a special tool by modifying a > wrench to get into the narrow spaces to remove the oil pump. Also had to > remove the generator to get the oil reservoir out. Although quite an effort > it was worth it for me. > > Thanks to Dave Petri's advice I filled the pipes from the reservoir to the > oil pump with oil before stating the engine, Oil pressure was up and good > seconds after the engine started. > > Deon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > lie.buyse@pandora.be > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > Deon, > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the crankcase. > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > Like to hear about your findings now. > Thanks, > > Lieven B. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yak52" > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > Q question to all, > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > oil > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > it > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > drained > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deon. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:37:12 PM PST US > From: ByronMFox@aol.com > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat shirts > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 MTW > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send me a > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > ...Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > The RPA Store > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:51:59 PM PST US > From: Gary Reynolds > Subject: RE: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gary Reynolds > > Gday Byron > I would like to order a sweat shirt if i could > Regards Gary Reynolds > South Aust President > Antique Aeroplane Association of Australia > 24 Milan Crescent > Hackham West SA 5163 > ph/wk 08 8301 3343 > ph/hm 08 8384 8464 > fax 08 8301 3370 > mob 0417 899 343 > email gary.reynolds@hills.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ByronMFox@aol.com [mailto:ByronMFox@aol.com] > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat > shirts > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 > MTW > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send me > a > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > ...Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > The RPA Store > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:26 PM PST US From: "Don Glittenberg" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" Doug, Thanks for the info. That's about the way I had it figured also! I'll see if I can get in touch with my Russian friend, and maybe he knows how often to change it, etc. Don G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Sapp" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > Don, > It is my understanding that the water is held in suspension in the gly and > alcohol mix. Normally there should be no danger of corrosion. But the > mixture will at some point in time reach a saturation point where it cannot > absorb any more water and will need to be replaced, at that point it may > cause some rust or corrosion on metal parts. What's the normal change > interval? I don't have a clue, I would think it would depend on the > humidity in your area. > > Always Yakin, > Doug Sapp > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > Question! Does the glycerin or alcohol absorb the water as H2O, or is it > chemically combined with it? In other words, is the water still water or > something else? Will it still cause corrosion? > Don G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yak-List Digest Server" > To: "Yak-List Digest List" > Subject: Yak-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 03/28/05 > > > > * > > > > ================================================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ================================================== > > > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.html > > > > Text Version: > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2005-03-28.txt > > > > > > ================================================ > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ================================================ > > > > > > Yak-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Mon 03/28/05: 11 > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Don Glittenberg (Don Glittenberg) > > 2. 07:15 AM - Slordig (Thunderbolt) > > 3. 07:32 AM - spark plugs (p.goswick) > > 4. 08:08 AM - Re: (Doug Sapp) > > 5. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Avionic Faceplates (Wayne @ Aircraft > Engravers) > > 6. 09:08 AM - Re: spark plugs (Roger Kemp) > > 7. 11:01 AM - YAK-List: Re: KT-76 (Frank Stelwagon) > > 8. 12:52 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure () > > 9. 07:06 PM - Re: Oil pump and oil pressure (Yak52) > > 10. 08:37 PM - RPA Store Spring Sale (ByronMFox@aol.com) > > 11. 08:51 PM - Re: RPA Store Spring Sale (Gary Reynolds) > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 06:59:16 AM PST US > > From: "Don Glittenberg" > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > Great info, > > Thanks a bunch. That's what I needed to know. I think I'll do as the > > Russians do...alcohol & glycerin. > > Don G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doug Sapp" > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > > > As you may or not know Glycerin is one of the prime chemicals used in > > > preserving flowers. I buy it in semi quantities each spring. We use > only > > > USP grade (we even have some drums of Kosher glycerin if you feel so > > > inclined. We also use alcohol in one of our processes, but due to the > > > flammable nature of the stuff I think it best for you to get it locally > > and > > > not try to ship it. Glycerin on the other hand is not flammable is > > classed > > > as benign and has no problem moving via UPS or the mail. So, if I can > be > > of > > > help contact me off list. > > > > > > Consider: Glycerin is one of a group of humectants (meaning it draws > > > humidity/moisture). Alcohol will also absorb water. I'm not a Yak 52 > guy > > > and I know zip about it's systems, but I do know these two chemicals > very > > > well, and they both would most assuredly aid in removing moisture from > the > > > system. > > > > > > Always Yakin, > > > Doug Sapp > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Glittenberg > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > Thanks for the information. Along those lines, could you think of any > > > reason why NOT to use the glycerin/denatured alcohol mix that the > Russians > > > use, in addition to the compressor oil? By the way, where are you > located > > > and do you have a 50 or 52? I have a Yak 50 and am located NE of > Decatur, > > > Texas. > > > Don Glittenberg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Starnes" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Don Glittenberg > > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Robert Starnes > > > > > > > > In addition to using air tool oil try putting a little > > > > ACF-50 anti corrosion formula in the system. It acts > > > > as a water displacer and I see a lot less corrosion in > > > > the filter screens and air bottles in airplanes that I > > > > add it to. > > > > BTW, I am moving my shop across the field here at LZU, > > > > I anticipate the contractor being done with the new > > > > hanger @May 1st. Hope this does not cause any of you > > > > who need maintenance any inconvenience. Call me if you > > > > need something and I will put you in the temp. hanger > > > > until the new place is done. -Robert Starnes > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Don Glittenberg wrote: > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Don Glittenberg" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the correct recommended > > > > > substance is to put in the > > > > > pneumatic accumulator (sphere) in a Yak 50-52? I > > > > > have heard everything from > > > > > alcohol/glycerin to compressor oil. > > > > > Don Glittenberg > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > > To: "yak-list" > > > > > Subject: Yak-List: Re: TV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tim Gagnon" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > > > I too have seen the Blue Angels series and was > > > > > really impressed with it. > > > > > As much as I hate to say it (being USAF and all), IN > > > > > MY OPINION, the Blues > > > > > put on a much better show than the Thunderbirds. > > > > > Having done a few shows on > > > > > that side of the fence, they are all pretty good > > > > > guys too...plus they use a > > > > > Herk! > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted to add that I went and saw the Imax > > > > > film Fighter Pilot: > > > > > Operation Red Flag > > > > > > > > > (http://www.fighterpilotfilm.com/) > > > > > It > > > > > basically follows a F-15 driver through his first > > > > > trip to Nellis AFB for Red > > > > > Flag. If you think you are going to see a > > > > > documentary about the pilot and > > > > > Red Flag, you will be disappointed. There is a lot > > > > > of Hollywood in it which, > > > > > IN MY OPINION, kills the film. Lots of computer > > > > > generated stuff and big > > > > > Hollywood explosions. Dog fighting at scrub brush > > > > > level, flares being popped > > > > > all over the place (some look like they were > > > > > salvo'ed and there was very > > > > > little maneuvering following their deployment). > > > > > Imax's are usually pretty > > > > > stunning and this does have some cool flying scenes > > > > > but that is about it. > > > > > Just way too much Hollywood. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be interested to hear from those that have > > > > > attended Red Flag and > > > > > get their impression on the film. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. I am trying to put together a DVD collection > > > > > of the greatest aviation > > > > > films of all time. Any thoughts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > > > > Subscriptions page, > > > > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 07:15:33 AM PST US > > From: "Thunderbolt" > > Subject: Yak-List: Slordig > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Thunderbolt" > > > > > > Slordig > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 07:32:49 AM PST US > > From: "p.goswick" > > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you > gapping > > your plugs at. > > Thanks > > Phil > > Tulsa, Ok > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 08:08:48 AM PST US > > From: "Doug Sapp" > > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts for > > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > > This list is great!! > > > > Thanks again, best to all. > > > > Always Yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > dave@davelaird.com > > Subject: > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > > > Doug, > > > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > > > Hope it helps... > > > > Dave Laird > > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > > Dallas > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 08:53:51 AM PST US > > From: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: RE: Avionic Faceplates > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" > > > > > Doug, > > > > We don't have new faceplates but we do make faceplate inserts for the > older > > avionics. > > See http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fp_list.htm for a listing of the > > styles we make and > > for the KT-76A's which there are two styles see > > http://www.engravers.net/faceplates/king/kt76a-1to2.htm > > > > > > Wayne Cahoon > > Aircraft Engravers > > (860) 653-2780 > > (860) 653-7324 Fax > > http://www.engravers.net > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doug Sapp" > > Subject: Yak-List: RE: > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug Sapp" > > > > > > Many thanks to all those that responded to my request for the pinouts > for > > > the King KT76A transponder.............now anybody got a new faceplate?? > > > This list is great!! > > > > > > Thanks again, best to all. > > > > > > Always Yakin, > > > Doug Sapp > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > > > dave@davelaird.com > > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: > > > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: dave@davelaird.com > > > > > > Doug, > > > > > > I just sent you (off-list) a pinout I found here: > > > > > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data > > > > > > Hope it helps... > > > > > > Dave Laird > > > N63536 CJ6A "Betty" > > > Dallas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 09:08:57 AM PST US > > From: Roger Kemp > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: spark plugs > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp > > > > contact Dennis Savarese @ DSAVARESE@ELMORE.RR.COM (YAK52 World). He has > been flying > > with the Plug wire/US auto plug conversion for about 30 hours now. He has > > no complaints. Has about convenced me to do the same. Problem is I just > bought > > a new set of Chinese plug and have less than 100 hours on them. Will make > the > > conversion when these $480 plug wear out. > > Doc > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "p.goswick" > > Subject: Yak-List: spark plugs > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "p.goswick" > > > > anyone out there using American auto spark plugs in a MP14? what are you > gapping > > your plugs at. > > Thanks > > Phil > > Tulsa, Ok > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 11:01:45 AM PST US > > From: "Frank Stelwagon" > > Subject: Yak-List: YAK-List: RE: KT-76 > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Stelwagon" > > > > > Doug, > > > > Take a look at the Chief Aircraft Catalog (page 5 in the 2003 Catalog) > they have > > faceplates for the KT-76 A listed. > > > > Frank CJ6-A N23021 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 12:52:35 PM PST US > > From: > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > > > Deon, > > > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the > crankcase. > > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > > Like to hear about your findings now. > > Thanks, > > > > Lieven B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yak52" > > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > > > Q question to all, > > > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > > oil > > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > > it > > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > > drained > > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Deon. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 07:06:57 PM PST US > > From: "Yak52" > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > In my view 1/2 liter per day is a lot - mine would sometimes have 1/4 > liter > > or less if I left it standing for even more than a week, and only > sometimes. > > What prompted me to strip the oil pump was more inspection and to check on > > the valve. > > > > The valve was fine - oil pump was clean, but the oil reservoir and pipes > > where filthy. So that alone made it worth my while to clean everything > out. > > I switched from 100W to 25W60 and decided to clean everything and inspect > > with the oil change. Sounds to me you have a stuck or clogged valve. > > > > The complete process took a weekend - I made a special tool by modifying a > > wrench to get into the narrow spaces to remove the oil pump. Also had to > > remove the generator to get the oil reservoir out. Although quite an > effort > > it was worth it for me. > > > > Thanks to Dave Petri's advice I filled the pipes from the reservoir to the > > oil pump with oil before stating the engine, Oil pressure was up and good > > seconds after the engine started. > > > > Deon. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > lie.buyse@pandora.be > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: > > > > Deon, > > > > Was stripping and cleaning the oil pump worth the effort? > > Mine (also 1990) drains more than 1/2 litre of oil per day to the > crankcase. > > So I drain the oil after the last flight of the day. > > Like to hear about your findings now. > > Thanks, > > > > Lieven B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yak52" > > Subject: Yak-List: Oil pump and oil pressure > > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yak52" > > > > > > Q question to all, > > > > > > Standard 1990 Yak 52. > > > > > > I stripped and cleaned my oil pump over the weekend because of excessive > > oil > > > drain into the engine. I cannot find info on priming the oil pump in the > > > manual before starting again. Can I prime the pump? If not how long does > > it > > > take to get oil pressure up when I start for the first time again. I > > drained > > > and cleaned the complete oil system - oil holding tank (this thing was > > > dirty!), pipes, oil cooler, etc. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Deon. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 08:37:12 PM PST US > > From: ByronMFox@aol.com > > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat > shirts > > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 > MTW > > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send > me a > > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > > ...Blitz > > > > Byron M. Fox > > The RPA Store > > 80 Milland Drive > > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > > > > Time: 08:51:59 PM PST US > > From: Gary Reynolds > > Subject: RE: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Gary Reynolds > > > > Gday Byron > > I would like to order a sweat shirt if i could > > Regards Gary Reynolds > > South Aust President > > Antique Aeroplane Association of Australia > > 24 Milan Crescent > > Hackham West SA 5163 > > ph/wk 08 8301 3343 > > ph/hm 08 8384 8464 > > fax 08 8301 3370 > > mob 0417 899 343 > > email gary.reynolds@hills.com.au > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ByronMFox@aol.com [mailto:ByronMFox@aol.com] > > Subject: Yak-List: RPA Store Spring Sale > > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: ByronMFox@aol.com > > > > Get 'em while they last!! I've got 5 gray, extra large Yak logo sweat > > shirts > > -- $18 each. White RPA Wings logo hats -- $12 each. Were you there? - 16 > > MTW > > 2001 FAST Clinic video tapes -- for the postage -- $3.85 each. Just send > me > > a > > check payable to the Red Star Pilots Association. > > ...Blitz > > > > Byron M. Fox > > The RPA Store > > 80 Milland Drive > > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > > 415-307-2405 Cells Days > > 415-380-0907 Home Eves > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:50 PM PST US From: "Rob Mortara" Subject: Yak-List: Sun and Fun --> Yak-List message posted by: "Rob Mortara" Phil and I are planing on flying down on Monday April 11 from New Jersey Any one wishing to join us on the flight down rob ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:31 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star registration From: Barry Hancock --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock Fellow intrepid aviators, ARS is coming up quickly and I wanted to remind you that registration is open and your chance to pre-register for a reduced fee is still available! So far we have 22 people registered. This year is shaping up well and we're looking forward to lots of flying, food, and fun! We have secured Willy Driscoll (Vietnam Ace Randall Cunningham's WSO) as the keynote speaker this year. We have 5 extra All Red Star polo shirts to give away to the next 5 that register at www.allredstar.com. Also, on the site is a poster that you can download for your own personal enjoyment...or post at your local airport, etc. See you there! Cheers, Barry Barry Hancock Event Director All Red Star (949) 300-5510 www.allredstar.com "A Unique Aviation Experience"