---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/29/05:6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:19 AM - Re: Coloured Smoke (Daniel Fortin) 2. 06:42 AM - Re: Coloured Smoke (Jon Boede) 3. 09:44 AM - Re: Coloured Smoke (Daniel Fortin) 4. 09:51 AM - Colored smoked (Daniel Fortin) 5. 12:36 PM - Re: Coloured Smoke (Jim Ivey) 6. 04:25 PM - Looking for Damaged Paddle Blade (cpayne@joimail.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:35 AM PST US From: "Daniel Fortin" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" The Snowbirds had at one point colored smoke. I know the had to add something to their smoke oil, but wouldn't be abe to venture a gess. Some of the European teams, Frecce Tricolori for one, use both white and colored smoke. Sorry I can't be of further help. D >From: "Lance Robb" >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke >Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:44:19 +1000 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" > >Hi Jim, >Thanks for the reply.....I wasn't sure if there was a new additive or >something available you guys might have known of.......looks like smoke >generators are the only option but too expensive for me...... >Regards, >Lance >North Queensland Warbirds > > >Lance: > > > >It cannot be done with a piston engine. > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:45 AM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke From: "Jon Boede" --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" Ok, so I'm curious. What is it that they're doing in a jet engine to make the colored smoke? Jon > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > The Snowbirds had at one point colored smoke. I know the had to add > something to their smoke oil, but wouldn't be abe to venture a gess. Some > of the European teams, Frecce Tricolori for one, use both white and > colored > smoke. > > Sorry I can't be of further help. > > D > >>From: "Lance Robb" >>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >>To: >>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke >>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:44:19 +1000 >> >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" >> >>Hi Jim, >>Thanks for the reply.....I wasn't sure if there was a new additive or >>something available you guys might have known of.......looks like smoke >>generators are the only option but too expensive for me...... >>Regards, >>Lance >>North Queensland Warbirds >> >> >Lance: >> > >> >It cannot be done with a piston engine. >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:48 AM PST US From: "Daniel Fortin" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" To the best of my knowledge, nothing. What they are doing is something with the smoke oil. The smoke system on a jet works the same way then on a piston engine, it simply sends a fluid into the exhaust that is burned thus trailing smoke. How is is colored???? Beats me. On the other hand, le me inquire with folks from the Northern lights and I come back with an answer. Hibou, any idea? Cheers, Dan >From: "Jon Boede" >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke >Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:26:59 -0500 (CDT) > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" > >Ok, so I'm curious. What is it that they're doing in a jet engine to make >the colored smoke? > >Jon > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > > > The Snowbirds had at one point colored smoke. I know the had to add > > something to their smoke oil, but wouldn't be abe to venture a gess. >Some > > of the European teams, Frecce Tricolori for one, use both white and > > colored > > smoke. > > > > Sorry I can't be of further help. > > > > D > > > >>From: "Lance Robb" > >>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > >>To: > >>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke > >>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:44:19 +1000 > >> > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" > >> > >>Hi Jim, > >>Thanks for the reply.....I wasn't sure if there was a new additive or > >>something available you guys might have known of.......looks like smoke > >>generators are the only option but too expensive for me...... > >>Regards, > >>Lance > >>North Queensland Warbirds > >> > >> >Lance: > >> > > >> >It cannot be done with a piston engine. > >> > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:51 AM PST US From: "Daniel Fortin" Subject: Yak-List: Colored smoked --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" Folks, Just spoke to Andre Lortie (2 years Snowbirds and 7 as Lead for the NorthernLights) and he says to get colored smoke you simply have to add dye to your smoke oil. Tons and tons of it. They tried with the Extra and he said its the shits. Clogs the smoke system like there is no tomorrow, so the stuck with the white smoke. D ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:06 PM PST US From: "Jim Ivey" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" Jets can do it because of the much higher temperatures achieved in the outlet nozzles. Recips can't reach said temperatures so the chemicals used for color can't be combusted they way they are in jets. Nobody has found how to make a piston engine create colored smoke from the exhaust. Jim Ivey > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Daniel Fortin > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:44 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > > To the best of my knowledge, nothing. What they are doing is > something with > the smoke oil. The smoke system on a jet works the same way > then on a > piston engine, it simply sends a fluid into the exhaust that > is burned thus > trailing smoke. How is is colored???? Beats me. > > On the other hand, le me inquire with folks from the Northern > lights and I > come back with an answer. > > Hibou, any idea? > > Cheers, > > Dan > > >From: "Jon Boede" > >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke > >Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:26:59 -0500 (CDT) > > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" > > > >Ok, so I'm curious. What is it that they're doing in a jet > engine to > >make the colored smoke? > > > >Jon > > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" > > > --> > > > > > > The Snowbirds had at one point colored smoke. I know the > had to add > > > something to their smoke oil, but wouldn't be abe to > venture a gess. > >Some > > > of the European teams, Frecce Tricolori for one, use both > white and > > > colored smoke. > > > > > > Sorry I can't be of further help. > > > > > > D > > > > > >>From: "Lance Robb" > > >>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com > > >>To: > > >>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Coloured Smoke > > >>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:44:19 +1000 > > >> > > >>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lance Robb" > > >>--> > > >> > > >>Hi Jim, > > >>Thanks for the reply.....I wasn't sure if there was a new > additive > > >>or something available you guys might have known > of.......looks like > > >>smoke generators are the only option but too expensive > for me...... > > >>Regards, Lance > > >>North Queensland Warbirds > > >> > > >> >Lance: > > >> > > > >> >It cannot be done with a piston engine. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:36 PM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Looking for Damaged Paddle Blade --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Yakker's, I'm looking for a damaged "Paddle Blade" prop for a project I'm working on. Here is a chance to clean out that hanger trash for cash! Whole prop or just blades OK. Please reply OFF-LIST if you have something available. I'm not looking for any other kind of prop at this time. Craig Payne