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From: "Avcraft" <avcraft@citlink.net>
Subject: Fw: Airport Management
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Scott,
Can you post this on the yaklist. I can't get it to post for some reason.
Thanks for your help,
Janace Harbour
everyone!
Avcraft, Inc. in Columbus, NE has approached the Board to manage the airport
Many of you have been to the FAST clinics in the past few years. We would
appreciate reference letters to the Columbus Municipal Airport Authority
stating your opinion of Avcraft, Inc. and Keith & Janace Harbour and what
has been done to promote the community of Columbus and aviation and why we
would be the best choice for this position.
The address for the Board is:
2765 - 14th Avenue
Columbus, NE 68601
or you can send to the board members e-mail addresses:
cecjones@neb.rr.com
jferg@megavision.com
dlduren@megavision.com
cathieann@frontiernet.net
tatobia@megavision.com
Please copy us at:
2851 - 14th Ave.
Columbus, NE 68601
or
avcraft@citlink.net
We appreciate any support and thank you in advance.
Keith & Janace Harbour
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<!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <X-FID>FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000</X-FID> <X-FVER>4.0</X-FVER> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> Scott, Can you post this on the yaklist. I can't get it to post for some reason. Thanks for your help, Janace Harbour everyone! Avcraft, Inc. in Columbus, NE has approached the Board to manage the airport. Many of you have been to the FAST clinics in the past few years. We would appreciate reference letters to the Columbus Municipal Airport Authority stating your opinion of Avcraft, Inc. and Keith Janace Harbour and what has been done to promote the community of Columbus and aviation and why we would be the best choice for this position. The address for the Board is: 2765 - 14th Avenue Columbus, NE 68601 =20or you can send to the board members e-mail addresses: cecjones@neb.rr.com jferg@megavision.com dlduren@megavision.com cathieann@frontiernet.net tatobia@megavision.com Please copy us at: 2851 - 14th Ave. Columbus, NE 68601 or avcraft@citlink.net We appreciate any support and thank you in advance. Keith Janace Harbour <IMG alt"Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE!" hspace0 src"http://www2.incredimail.com/contents/stamps/imstp_emo_en.gif" alignbaseline border0>
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| Subject: | Re: High cylinder head temp. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
There are two temperature probes on the M14. Both are typically attached to
the rear spark plug on #4 cylinder. Check the temperature probe connections
inside the wiring harness and the connections inside the cannon type plug at
the back of the instrument.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: High cylinder head temp.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>
> Jim
> If I were getting low cyl head temps with the shutters fully closed I
> would suspect a problem with the temp sensors. It's better to run with
> the shutters fully open than it is with them fully closed (unless your
> living in Siberia with outside air temps of -80).
>
> Don't believe your temp gauge if it tells you your cold with the
> shutters closed! There has to be something wrong. I suspect the temp
> sender unit is bad!
>
> As a side note.....I think it is best to run with the shutters open all
> the time unless it is bitter cold......like in Siberia.
>
> Frank
> N9110M
> YAK-52
> L71
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ivey
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: High cylinder head temp.
>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Ivey" <jim@jimivey.com>
>
> How about low cylinder temp? My M14-P (CJ) can barely reach 150 on the
> CHT with the shutters fully closed. I leave them closed practically all
> the time to try to keep the CHT up. Typically I see 130-140 in cruise
> even with the shutters shut. Rear cockpit gauge shows about 5 degrees
> higher so that makes me feel a little bit better, but not much. And I
> live in the desert southwest, high and hot.
>
> Any collective wisdom as to why the temps would remain so low?
>
> Jim Ivey
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Frank Haertlein
>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:48 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: High cylinder head temp.
>>
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein"
>> --> <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Rick,Jeff
>> Your 52 is acting normally. Paint your CHT gauge with the
>> limits of yellow (100 to 130), green (130 to 185) and yellow
>> again on the top end (185 to 225).
>>
>> I never run anywhere near the top end of 225 and I'm in the
>> Mojave Desert...... So if you're below 225 it's all good. If
>> you're still worried about high cyl temps per American
>> standards then just change your oil regularly and run an
>> upper cylinder lubricant like MMO :)
>>
>> Frank
>> N9110M
>> YAK-52
>> L71
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cathie
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: HELP! High cylinder head temp.
>>
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Cathie" <cathieann@frontiernet.net>
>>
>> Help! Recently acquired a YAK 52. It is registering a high
>> cylinder head temperature of 200 to 205 Celsius on initial
>> climb out and standard climb. It does level out at about 180
>> Celsius at cruise. This is with the gill shutters wide open
>> on a cool day. Being new YAK owners, we are at a loss. We
>> have been told that this is high. It is a very low time
>> engine. We have tried richening the fuel mixture. But, with
>> no change. Also, the aneroid altitude compensation valve.
>> Also no change. Has anyone ever had this happen? Does
>> anybody have any suggestions. Does anyone know who would be
>> the best person to contact concerning this? We have heard
>> there is someone who can bench set the carbs. Perhaps, this
>> will have to be done. Does anyone have this persons name
>> and/or phone number. Could this be a timing problem? Could
>> someone advise us of the procedure for timing? We do have
>> some manuals. The Colorado Pak has been a great help to us
>> and we do appreciate it. This is!
>> got us stumped and a pain in the "tail". Besides, a few
>> bugs, this has really been the only real problem we have had.
>> We would like to expand our cry for help to the greater YAK world.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rick Gasper
>> Jeff Krings
>> Columbus, NE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: High cylinder head temp. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: JerzyStrzyz@aol.com
You may want to check your ignition timing. My M14PF runs nice and cool -
CHTs around 170C (Su26, shutters removed) even during hard acro at full power
with timing set at 14deg on the prop flange. I have recently re-timed it to
16.5 deg and my CHTs went up by 20C. My mag drops also went from 1.5 to 2%.
She is going back to 14deg today.
Jerzy Strzyz
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| Subject: | Re: High cylinder head temp. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
You must have M9F mags on your PF if you're setting the timing to 14.5
degrees BTDC. Most PF's now come with M9-35's, which are timed to 4-6
degrees (depends on the number stamped in the boss of the mag under the mag
cover) AFTER TDC. With the M9F's, an increased # of degrees = more
horsepower. More horsepower = more heat. 190 C at full power during hard
acro is VERY acceptable.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: <JerzyStrzyz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: High cylinder head temp.
> --> Yak-List message posted by: JerzyStrzyz@aol.com
>
> You may want to check your ignition timing. My M14PF runs nice and cool -
> CHTs around 170C (Su26, shutters removed) even during hard acro at full
> power
> with timing set at 14deg on the prop flange. I have recently re-timed it
> to
> 16.5 deg and my CHTs went up by 20C. My mag drops also went from 1.5 to
> 2%.
> She is going back to 14deg today.
> Jerzy Strzyz
>
>
>
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| Subject: | High fuel presure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
I have a CJ 285hp that is indicating .7 for fuel pressure on the rear panel and
.4 on the front panel at any power setting. Any thoughts?
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| Subject: | Re: High fuel presure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Have you swapped the instruments front and rear to see if the readings
follow the instruments?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
Subject: Yak-List: High fuel presure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> I have a CJ 285hp that is indicating .7 for fuel pressure on the rear
> panel and .4 on the front panel at any power setting. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: High fuel presure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
I have not swapped yet. I am thinking I have a air bubble in the line.
Because this problem didn't appear until I change fuel hoses.
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: High fuel presure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>
> Have you swapped the instruments front and rear to see if the readings
> follow the instruments?
> Dennis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
> To: "Yak List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: High fuel presure
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
> >
> > I have a CJ 285hp that is indicating .7 for fuel pressure on the rear
> > panel and .4 on the front panel at any power setting. Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: High fuel presure |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Kelly,
I don't think an air bubble will do this. The bubble will compress and
transfer the same pressure to the gauge as the fluid.
Changing a hose of any kind introduces the possibility of
a blockage in the line or fitting. A new hose should be pressure tested and
then blown out with air BOTH ways to be sure the fitting did not cut the
hose and cause a rubber flapper valve to be created inside the hose .
Terry Lewis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: High fuel presure
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>
> I have not swapped yet. I am thinking I have a air bubble in the line.
> Because this problem didn't appear until I change fuel hoses.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: High fuel presure
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese@elmore.rr.com>
>>
>> Have you swapped the instruments front and rear to see if the readings
>> follow the instruments?
>> Dennis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>> To: "Yak List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: High fuel presure
>>
>>
>> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
>> >
>> > I have a CJ 285hp that is indicating .7 for fuel pressure on the rear
>> > panel and .4 on the front panel at any power setting. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: High cylinder head temp. |
--> Yak-List message posted by: JerzyStrzyz@aol.com
Yes, I have M9F mags on mine PF.
Jerzy
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
On May 6, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Walt Lannon wrote:
> So tell me, if you don't have a FAST card ( or a parachute ) what
> exactly is there to do for a newbie at All Red Star?
> The daily rate seems a little steep if you only get to watch.
>
>
That's a great question, Walt. A newbie who has no interest in
formation, or aerobatics, or flying his airplane is a bit limited in
his choices, but we do encourage *especially* those new to the
community and their airplane to attend. Nowhere else will you find
such a wealth of information regarding the safe operation of your
aircraft as you will at All Red Star. Over 50 pilots, most of the
veterans of their mounts, not to mention a gajillion hours of combined
military, airline, and other professional type flying time experience
to draw on. Most, if not all, are happy to share their experience with
the newer pilots...heck, it's in everybody's best interest to help the
community, right? Also, consider the following experts donating their
time to the event:
* Vladimir Yastremski and Bill Blackwell are there giving help and
seminars on engine and airframe maintenance. * Jim Fackler is giving a
prop balancing, shaft vibration analysis seminar.
* Highly renowned aviation photog Tyson Rininger (Sean Tucker's
personal photographer) will be giving a briefing on air-to-air
photography safety.
* Allen Silver doing his emergency egress and parachute maintenance
seminar.
plus
*The only aerial demonstrations event of everything from a Yak-18T to a
MiG-21 in the west.
*Camaraderie with the most enjoyable warbird community on the planet
(and I mean that! No patronizing here...).
And don't forget that the prices you see for the event are "all
inclusive." The only thing you need extra money for is gas (yeah,
that's been cheaper...), merchandise, and booze. Heck, we're even
including the keg beer this year. I've looked long and hard for another
aviation event where you have this much fun with a great group of
people for anything close to what we charge...I'm still lookin'. And
after all, that's the whole point of ARS!
Hope you can make it out some day, Walt. I simply cannot do it justice
in writing....
Cheers,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: All Red Star |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim and Vivian" <jimscjs@mbay.net>
If you've never been to RED STAR, it's worth the trip they have a great
Aviation Museum there, and a great Old Air Base, Plus all the Great People
that will be there, so show up, the Weather is supposed to be great also,
it's a nice Place to Fly around also. 30 minutes West and you can Fly around
the Pacific and see some great area's.
Jim Selby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <barry@flyredstar.org>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: All Red Star
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <barry@flyredstar.org>
>
>
> On May 6, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Walt Lannon wrote:
>
> > So tell me, if you don't have a FAST card ( or a parachute ) what
> > exactly is there to do for a newbie at All Red Star?
> > The daily rate seems a little steep if you only get to watch.
> >
> >
>
> That's a great question, Walt. A newbie who has no interest in
> formation, or aerobatics, or flying his airplane is a bit limited in
> his choices, but we do encourage *especially* those new to the
> community and their airplane to attend. Nowhere else will you find
> such a wealth of information regarding the safe operation of your
> aircraft as you will at All Red Star. Over 50 pilots, most of the
> veterans of their mounts, not to mention a gajillion hours of combined
> military, airline, and other professional type flying time experience
> to draw on. Most, if not all, are happy to share their experience with
> the newer pilots...heck, it's in everybody's best interest to help the
> community, right? Also, consider the following experts donating their
> time to the event:
>
> * Vladimir Yastremski and Bill Blackwell are there giving help and
> seminars on engine and airframe maintenance. * Jim Fackler is giving a
> prop balancing, shaft vibration analysis seminar.
> * Highly renowned aviation photog Tyson Rininger (Sean Tucker's
> personal photographer) will be giving a briefing on air-to-air
> photography safety.
> * Allen Silver doing his emergency egress and parachute maintenance
> seminar.
> plus
> *The only aerial demonstrations event of everything from a Yak-18T to a
> MiG-21 in the west.
> *Camaraderie with the most enjoyable warbird community on the planet
> (and I mean that! No patronizing here...).
>
> And don't forget that the prices you see for the event are "all
> inclusive." The only thing you need extra money for is gas (yeah,
> that's been cheaper...), merchandise, and booze. Heck, we're even
> including the keg beer this year. I've looked long and hard for another
> aviation event where you have this much fun with a great group of
> people for anything close to what we charge...I'm still lookin'. And
> after all, that's the whole point of ARS!
>
> Hope you can make it out some day, Walt. I simply cannot do it justice
> in writing....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Barry
>
>
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