---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/17/05: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:36 AM - A few photo's of All Red Star '05 (Stepehen Fox) 2. 06:40 AM - Back from All RedStar (cjpilot710@aol.com) 3. 07:41 AM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Ernest Martinez) 4. 08:25 AM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Dave Laird) 5. 10:14 AM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (DaBear) 6. 10:31 AM - Re: Back from All RedStar (Cliff Umscheid) 7. 12:18 PM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Jim Shafer) 8. 01:01 PM - Experimental Markings (cpayne@joimail.com) 9. 01:02 PM - Experimental Markings (cpayne@joimail.com) 10. 01:12 PM - Re: Experimental Markings (Kelley Monroe) 11. 02:08 PM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Jorgen Nielsen) 12. 03:27 PM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Jim Shafer) 13. 05:49 PM - Re: Experimental Markings (A. Dennis Savarese) 14. 06:33 PM - Re: Back from All RedStar (Walter Lannon) 15. 06:56 PM - Re:Re: Experimental Markings (cpayne@joimail.com) 16. 07:34 PM - Re: Back from All RedStar (Daniel Fortin) 17. 07:46 PM - Hal Morley (Jim Selby) 18. 07:52 PM - Re: Re:Re: Experimental Markings (A. Dennis Savarese) 19. 08:52 PM - Re: Hal Morley (KingCJ6@aol.com) 20. 08:56 PM - Re: Hal Morley (JOE) 21. 11:56 PM - Re: loooking for : PDA GPS info (Paul Nicholson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:06 AM PST US From: Stepehen Fox Subject: Yak-List: A few photo's of All Red Star '05 --> Yak-List message posted by: Stepehen Fox I've just posted a few pictures from this years All Red Star. http:// homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum7.html To say the least this was a great event! Barry Hancock and crew deserve a hearty pat on the back for a job more than well done. Great flying, great food and the Friday evening Air Show was outstanding. Steve "SOB" Fox Yak 52 N3043R http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum5.html ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:47 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com Troops, FINALLY back from MER. Barry and his troops did a top notch job again this year. I watched a father/son team in a Yak 18T and 55 do rolling scissors around each other at 200'. It was really impressive!!!! The old 18T did some real impressive moves for a cabin job and the whole routine was fantastic. Craig Medford did a BEAUTIFUL routine in the CJ-6. Mind you this is a 285 hp HS-6 with modified pistons rings, but Craig just set the power and uses the elegance of the CJ to do the rest. Sly, Buck, and myself were the formation judges this year. Four teams competed. Green Flight (the AZ boys in CJ-6s) won it by just 21 points. Having Sly and Buck to back me up and share the heat against the slings and arrows of the contestants was really appreciated and I was surprised how close we were on our scoring. I wasn't able to watch the Bomb dropping contest, BUT as a ground safety guy during a test flight I can tell you that rubber chickens don't have much of a trajectory. Gave a bunch of flight checks and I loss count of the number of training rides. THANKS Postal and Buck! Spent all day trying to get out of SFO and finally was able to get a flight direct the NEXT day. So much for the joys of pass riding. Today I catch up on sleep, pick up my new boat motor, and start getting ready for the Fort Pierce show this week-end. Plus will need to re-access my income cash flow since I just lost some 45% (I think) of my UAL pension. Gentlemen and ladies who ply the airways as airline pilots, there ani't no such thing as a "contract" worth a s**t. And before I really get to upset and vent my frustrations on those who don't deserve it, I'll sign off for now. NICE JOB BERRY! Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:30 AM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez I mounted the stock garmin dash mount on top of the glare sheild in my CJ for the 296. I little in the way, but I can see around it. I must say while the 296 is nice the display was MUCH better on my 295. The 296 has crisp graphics, but everything is tiny, I can barely read the screen in bright sunlight. The 295 was mounted in the same spot, and I was able to fold it down for landings. For the money a used 295 is a great buy for a CJ. Ernie On 5/17/05, Jim Shafer wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" > > I got some parts from a Ram mount and placed a ball on the top of my > airscoop. Articulating arms attach to a ball mount on the back of the 296. > You can place the 296 just above the artificial horizon. Easy to see and > reach. I will take some photos tomorrow. > > Jim Shafer. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Bieberdorf" > To: > Subject: RE: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf > > > > Possibly because I am not familiar with a Yak 52; I do not understand how > > you fasten a Garmin 296 to a "stick" type of aircraft. I have a Garmin > > 296 that I use in my Cessna 182; but do not move it to my CJ-6 for lack > > of knowing how to mount it in the CJ and not block some other instruments > > that I consider important. If you have some pics, I would be interested. > > I too went thru the Anywhere + Ipaq and find the Garmin 296 to be superior > > in all aspects. rb > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:20 AM PST US From: Dave Laird Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird I had my A&P make a little mount for my 295 to put in my CJ. It is just a little piece of aluminum bent into a 4 inch long extruded U channel... it mounts to the front edge of the vent-plenum. Then I have the mount for the 295 attached to that... I just used the "cradle" part of the mount... it has 4 little holes in it that make it easy to screw to anything... this effectively puts the screen of the 295 splitting the edge roll on the front of the glare shield... no problem seeing over/around it... I can see the whole AI below the GPS and I can still see the end of the big CJ nose above the Garmin. I never have plumbed the power into a breaker.... I keep meaning to do it... but for now, I just leave it plugged into the cigarette lighter adapter... plus 6 minus 2 no problem for the mount/gps .... except the GPS will lose the satellites when inverted! Dave Laird On May 17, 2005, at 9:32 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Ernest Martinez > > I mounted the stock garmin dash mount on top of the glare sheild in my > CJ for the 296. I little in the way, but I can see around it. I must > say while the 296 is nice the display was MUCH better on my 295. The > 296 has crisp graphics, but everything is tiny, I can barely read the > screen in bright sunlight. The 295 was mounted in the same spot, and I > was able to fold it down for landings. > > For the money a used 295 is a great buy for a CJ. > > Ernie > > On 5/17/05, Jim Shafer wrote: >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" >> >> I got some parts from a Ram mount and placed a ball on the top of my >> airscoop. Articulating arms attach to a ball mount on the back of >> the 296. >> You can place the 296 just above the artificial horizon. Easy to see >> and >> reach. I will take some photos tomorrow. >> >> Jim Shafer. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Bieberdorf" >> To: >> Subject: RE: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info >> >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Bieberdorf >>> >>> >>> Possibly because I am not familiar with a Yak 52; I do not >>> understand how >>> you fasten a Garmin 296 to a "stick" type of aircraft. I have a >>> Garmin >>> 296 that I use in my Cessna 182; but do not move it to my CJ-6 for >>> lack >>> of knowing how to mount it in the CJ and not block some other >>> instruments >>> that I consider important. If you have some pics, I would be >>> interested. >>> I too went thru the Anywhere + Ipaq and find the Garmin 296 to be >>> superior >>> in all aspects. rb >>> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:28 AM PST US From: DaBear Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: DaBear I have my 295 on the glare shield as well. Does just fine during G. I have modified the antenna so I have 2, one on the glare shield between front and back cockpits and one between the main wheel wells so it does just fine inverted. Al DeVere :-) I have property to sell as well. Dave Laird wrote: >--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird > >I had my A&P make a little mount for my 295 to put in my CJ. >It is just a little piece of aluminum bent into a 4 inch long extruded >U channel... it mounts >to the front edge of the vent-plenum. Then I have the mount for the >295 attached to >that... I just used the "cradle" part of the mount... it has 4 little >holes in it that make it >easy to screw to anything... this effectively puts the screen of the >295 splitting the edge roll on >the front of the glare shield... no problem seeing over/around it... I >can see the whole >AI below the GPS and I can still see the end of the big CJ nose above >the Garmin. >I never have plumbed the power into a breaker.... I keep meaning to do >it... >but for now, I just leave it plugged into the cigarette lighter >adapter... > >plus 6 minus 2 no problem for the mount/gps .... except the GPS will >lose the satellites when inverted! > >Dave Laird > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar From: Cliff Umscheid --> Yak-List message posted by: Cliff Umscheid Pappy, Thanks for the description of the MER affair, which I missed primarily because we ex EAL types don't have any pass or J/S priveleges with anyone. 37 years with EAL and I have to pay full fare if I want to go somewhere . NOW, you're feeling the sharp end of the probe because PBGC will be administering your retirement fund. I hope you got out with your "B"fund in a lump sum. As to the "contract", Lorenzo's use of the bankruptcy laws put an end to contractUAL obligations related to collective bargaining agreements. Governments and courts favor the Corporations not employees.\ Take a rest, put your feet up, have a cold beer and tighten your belt; it's a different world from what we thought it was. Cliff Umscheid, YAK 50, N53526 On Tue, 17 May 2005 08:52:55 EDT cjpilot710@aol.com writes: > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Troops, > FINALLY back from MER. > Barry and his troops did a top notch job again this year. > > I watched a father/son team in a Yak 18T and 55 do rolling scissors > around > each other at 200'. It was really impressive!!!! The old 18T did > some real > impressive moves for a cabin job and the whole routine was > fantastic. > > Craig Medford did a BEAUTIFUL routine in the CJ-6. Mind you this is > a 285 > hp HS-6 with modified pistons rings, but Craig just set the power > and uses the > elegance of the CJ to do the rest. > > Sly, Buck, and myself were the formation judges this year. Four > teams > competed. Green Flight (the AZ boys in CJ-6s) won it by just 21 > points. Having > Sly and Buck to back me up and share the heat against the slings > and arrows of > the contestants was really appreciated and I was surprised how > close we were > on our scoring. > > I wasn't able to watch the Bomb dropping contest, BUT as a ground > safety guy > during a test flight I can tell you that rubber chickens don't have > much of > a trajectory. > > Gave a bunch of flight checks and I loss count of the number of > training > rides. THANKS Postal and Buck! > > Spent all day trying to get out of SFO and finally was able to get a > flight > direct the NEXT day. So much for the joys of pass riding. > > Today I catch up on sleep, pick up my new boat motor, and start > getting > ready for the Fort Pierce show this week-end. > > Plus will need to re-access my income cash flow since I just lost > some 45% > (I think) of my UAL pension. Gentlemen and ladies who ply the > airways as > airline pilots, there ani't no such thing as a "contract" worth a > s**t. > > And before I really get to upset and vent my frustrations on those > who don't > deserve it, I'll sign off for now. > > NICE JOB BERRY! > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > ====================== > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:34 PM PST US From: "Jim Shafer" Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" The mount I use does not require any constructing. Just 4 riv nuts in the air scoop on the glare shield and three commercially available pieces of mounting equipment. Anyone interested in photos, email me directly and I will send pictures. Yak list strips attachments and I don't want to load up the list with these photos. Jim Shafer 360EB CJ6-P ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:40 PM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Whilst preparing to start up for the Lumberton, NC Mid-Atlantic Fly-in on Sat, I was informed by some of Air Bosses' folks that I would not be flying that day because the FAA had "issues" with my airplane. Of course, no one from the FAA or Air Boss contacted me earlier but that's another subject. To make a short story long, one of the "issues" they had was that there was no "EXPERIMENTAL" marking on the outside of the aircraft and my Authentic Warbird paint scheme was missing. I had stripped of most of the paint for an up coming refinish and applied 3" letters by the horizontal stab as per "experimental category" practice. Come Sunday, I had one of Raleigh FSDO's Finest with me at the airplane. After climbing up on the wing he spotted the 2" high EXPERIMENTAL letters on my Ration box lid, next to the GIB seat. After a careful review of Operating Restrictions he golf carted somewhere to look up Part 45.23. Upon his return, his considered opinion was that I had to remove the stick-on letters from inside the cockpit and place it on the outside; then I would be good to go. His suggestion was that I follow the language of part 45.22 and insert an "X" after the "N" in my N-number and I would require NO OTHER "experimental" markings. Sunday evening, my local Orlando FSDO guru just happened to be sitting next to me at dinner (coincidence of course). His interpetation followed my original inside placement but didn't think that using the "NX" would get me away from any other marking usage. Result: I now have Both outside 2" EXPERIMENTAL letters and an "NX" in my tail number. In a general discussion on the WB line the following questions were asked but not answered: - Does a new Yak-52TW qualify for 2" tail numbers when it's clearly NOT 30 years old? - Did the Blue Angels really fly L-39's? - So the Alabama National Guard flew SF-260 Marchetti's? Anyone else have similiar "issues" with the FAA's Finest?? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:45 PM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" Whilst preparing to start up for the Lumberton, NC Mid-Atlantic Fly-in on Sat, I was informed by some of Air Bosses' folks that I would not be flying that day because the FAA had "issues" with my airplane. Of course, no one from the FAA or Air Boss contacted me earlier but that's another subject. To make a short story long, one of the "issues" they had was that there was no "EXPERIMENTAL" marking on the outside of the aircraft and my Authentic Warbird paint scheme was missing. I had stripped of most of the paint for an up coming refinish and applied 3" letters by the horizontal stab as per "experimental category" practice. Come Sunday, I had one of Raleigh FSDO's Finest with me at the airplane. After climbing up on the wing he spotted the 2" high EXPERIMENTAL letters on my Ration box lid, next to the GIB seat. After a careful review of Operating Restrictions he golf carted somewhere to look up Part 45.23. Upon his return, his considered opinion was that I had to remove the stick-on letters from inside the cockpit and place it on the outside; then I would be good to go. His suggestion was that I follow the language of part 45.22 and insert an "X" after the "N" in my N-number and I would require NO OTHER "experimental" markings. Sunday evening, my local Orlando FSDO guru just happened to be sitting next to me at dinner (coincidence of course). His interpetation followed my original inside placement but didn't think that using the "NX" would get me away from any other marking usage. Result: I now have Both outside 2" EXPERIMENTAL letters and an "NX" in my tail number. In a general discussion on the WB line the following questions were asked but not answered: - Does a new Yak-52TW qualify for 2" tail numbers when it's clearly NOT 30 years old? - Did the Blue Angels really fly L-39's? - So the Alabama National Guard flew SF-260 Marchetti's? Anyone else have similiar "issues" with the FAA's Finest?? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:39 PM PST US From: "Kelley Monroe" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "Kelley Monroe" I have installed NX#s on 4 CJs. The local FSDO said that's all that is needed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Experimental Markings > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > Whilst preparing to start up for the Lumberton, NC > Mid-Atlantic Fly-in on Sat, I was informed by some of Air > Bosses' folks that I would not be flying that day because > the FAA had "issues" with my airplane. Of course, no one > from the FAA or Air Boss contacted me earlier but that's > another subject. > > To make a short story long, one of the "issues" they had was > that there was no "EXPERIMENTAL" marking on the outside of > the aircraft and my Authentic Warbird paint scheme was > missing. I had stripped of most of the paint for an up > coming refinish and applied 3" letters by the horizontal > stab as per "experimental category" practice. > > Come Sunday, I had one of Raleigh FSDO's Finest with me at > the airplane. After climbing up on the wing he spotted the > 2" high EXPERIMENTAL letters on my Ration box lid, next to > the GIB seat. After a careful review of Operating > Restrictions he golf carted somewhere to look up Part 45.23. > Upon his return, his considered opinion was that I had to > remove the stick-on letters from inside the cockpit and > place it on the outside; then I would be good to go. His > suggestion was that I follow the language of part 45.22 and > insert an "X" after the "N" in my N-number and I would > require NO OTHER "experimental" markings. > > Sunday evening, my local Orlando FSDO guru just happened to > be sitting next to me at dinner (coincidence of course). His > interpetation followed my original inside placement but > didn't think that using the "NX" would get me away from any > other marking usage. > > Result: I now have Both outside 2" EXPERIMENTAL letters and > an "NX" in my tail number. In a general discussion on the WB > line the following questions were asked but not answered: > > - Does a new Yak-52TW qualify for 2" tail numbers when it's > clearly NOT 30 years old? > > - Did the Blue Angels really fly L-39's? > > - So the Alabama National Guard flew SF-260 Marchetti's? > > Anyone else have similiar "issues" with the FAA's Finest?? > > Craig Payne > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:34 PM PST US From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" I had a number of requests for pics of my 196 / 296 setup in the Yak. When I built it I took pics of the building process, and installation, so have now edited these and added text to explain rubber mounting etc. If anyone wants a copy let me know & I will mail direct - file size is 600k. Out of interest, Mk1 of the mount was rigidly mounted, when running off battery power the unit would switch itself off due to high vibration levels in Yak. (I guess the battery contacts were opening). So off it came and I then added some grommets etc. to mechanically isolate the bracket to airframe and the bracket to mount (probably over-engineered it, but hey, so is the Yak!) Also, bracket is mounted using existing holes and screws as I did not want to drill. And Jim, I would like some pics of yours. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Shafer > Sent: 17 May 2005 21:18 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" > > The mount I use does not require any constructing. Just 4 > riv nuts in the > air scoop on the glare shield and three commercially > available pieces of > mounting equipment. Anyone interested in photos, email me > directly and I > will send pictures. Yak list strips attachments and I don't > want to load up > the list with these photos. > > Jim Shafer > 360EB > CJ6-P > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:59 PM PST US From: "Jim Shafer" Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" Pics attached. The three pieces of the mount are all parts of various RAM mounts. You can get them individually. Jim 360EB CJ6-P ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:38 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" Craig, 45.22 (b) says; Note - at least 30 years ago OR ........experimental certificate has been issued .......for operation as an exhibition aircraft. (b) A small U.S.-registered aircraft built at least 30 years ago OR a U.S.-registered aircraft for which an experimental certificate has been issued under 21.191(d) or 21.191(g) for operation as an exhibition aircraft or as an amateur-built aircraft and which has the same external configuration as an aircraft built at least 30 years ago may be operated without displaying marks in accordance with 45.21 and 45.23 through 45.33 if: (1) It displays in accordance with 45.21(c) marks at least 2 inches high on each side of the fuselage or vertical tail surface consisting of the Roman capital letter N followed by: (i) The U.S. registration number of the aircraft; OR (ii) The symbol appropriate to the airworthiness certificate of the aircraft (C, standard; R, restricted; L, limited; or X, experimental) followed by the U.S. registration number of the aircraft; and My interpretation and most of the DAR's and FSDO's that issue airworthiness certificates and operating limitations is 2" N numbers are acceptable. 2" EXPERIMENTAL must be visible to any passenger boarding the airplane. See 45.23 (b) When marks include only the Roman capital letter N and the registration number is displayed on limited, restricted or light-sport category aircraft or experimental or provisionally certificated aircraft, the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station, in letters not less than 2 inches nor more than 6 inches high, the words limited, restricted, light-sport, experimental, or provisional, as applicable. (most people put it on the outside, left side, between the front and rear canopies. There is nothing in the regulation that I'm aware of that says you have to have an "authentic" military paint scheme. The Yak 52TW is certificated as an Experimental Exhibition and therefore can have 2" N numbers as stated in 45.22 (b). Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Experimental Markings > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > Whilst preparing to start up for the Lumberton, NC > Mid-Atlantic Fly-in on Sat, I was informed by some of Air > Bosses' folks that I would not be flying that day because > the FAA had "issues" with my airplane. Of course, no one > from the FAA or Air Boss contacted me earlier but that's > another subject. > > To make a short story long, one of the "issues" they had was > that there was no "EXPERIMENTAL" marking on the outside of > the aircraft and my Authentic Warbird paint scheme was > missing. I had stripped of most of the paint for an up > coming refinish and applied 3" letters by the horizontal > stab as per "experimental category" practice. > > Come Sunday, I had one of Raleigh FSDO's Finest with me at > the airplane. After climbing up on the wing he spotted the > 2" high EXPERIMENTAL letters on my Ration box lid, next to > the GIB seat. After a careful review of Operating > Restrictions he golf carted somewhere to look up Part 45.23. > Upon his return, his considered opinion was that I had to > remove the stick-on letters from inside the cockpit and > place it on the outside; then I would be good to go. His > suggestion was that I follow the language of part 45.22 and > insert an "X" after the "N" in my N-number and I would > require NO OTHER "experimental" markings. > > Sunday evening, my local Orlando FSDO guru just happened to > be sitting next to me at dinner (coincidence of course). His > interpetation followed my original inside placement but > didn't think that using the "NX" would get me away from any > other marking usage. > > Result: I now have Both outside 2" EXPERIMENTAL letters and > an "NX" in my tail number. In a general discussion on the WB > line the following questions were asked but not answered: > > - Does a new Yak-52TW qualify for 2" tail numbers when it's > clearly NOT 30 years old? > > - Did the Blue Angels really fly L-39's? > > - So the Alabama National Guard flew SF-260 Marchetti's? > > Anyone else have similiar "issues" with the FAA's Finest?? > > Craig Payne > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:54 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" Jim; You were watching Bud Granley and son Ross. Bud is retired from UAL (B747), ex RCAF from the Sabre days and an air show pilot extrodinaire for many years. Ross and brother Chris are ex Canadian Air Force CF18 pilots and both did the tour with the Snowbirds. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > Troops, > FINALLY back from MER. > Barry and his troops did a top notch job again this year. > > I watched a father/son team in a Yak 18T and 55 do rolling scissors around > each other at 200'. It was really impressive!!!! The old 18T did some > real > impressive moves for a cabin job and the whole routine was fantastic. > > Craig Medford did a BEAUTIFUL routine in the CJ-6. Mind you this is a > 285 > hp HS-6 with modified pistons rings, but Craig just set the power and uses > the > elegance of the CJ to do the rest. > > Sly, Buck, and myself were the formation judges this year. Four teams > competed. Green Flight (the AZ boys in CJ-6s) won it by just 21 points. > Having > Sly and Buck to back me up and share the heat against the slings and > arrows of > the contestants was really appreciated and I was surprised how close we > were > on our scoring. > > I wasn't able to watch the Bomb dropping contest, BUT as a ground safety > guy > during a test flight I can tell you that rubber chickens don't have much > of > a trajectory. > > Gave a bunch of flight checks and I loss count of the number of training > rides. THANKS Postal and Buck! > > Spent all day trying to get out of SFO and finally was able to get a > flight > direct the NEXT day. So much for the joys of pass riding. > > Today I catch up on sleep, pick up my new boat motor, and start getting > ready for the Fort Pierce show this week-end. > > Plus will need to re-access my income cash flow since I just lost some 45% > (I think) of my UAL pension. Gentlemen and ladies who ply the airways as > airline pilots, there ani't no such thing as a "contract" worth a s**t. > > And before I really get to upset and vent my frustrations on those who > don't > deserve it, I'll sign off for now. > > NICE JOB BERRY! > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:30 PM PST US From: "cpayne@joimail.com" Subject: Yak-List: Re:Re: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" But of course I have all the latest CFR text from faa.org. It's not in the words, but in the reading of the words; wherein the FSDO Apparachiks use the Infinite Wisdom of their vast experience. So what constitutes an "authentic" paint scheme from an era at least 30 years ago?? I see no requirement for the paint scheme to be original to that Type of warbird. The T-6 guys have it made as schemes changed constantly from the Services to Guard units using the type. How about certified (not experimental) civilian Navions made up not as L-17 Navions but as Navy/Air Force fighters. I've never heard of a beef with them, but...what about that Commie Crap that falls from the sky in pieces upon the unsuspecting heads of Our Good People? Surely the people must be protected! One more round for our Public Servants barkeep! Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:56 PM PST US From: "Daniel Fortin" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar --> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" In a previous life when I was in training in Moose Jaw (Saskatchewan) home of the Snowbirds, Bud came to the annual airshow. At that time, he only flew his Harvard (T6) but we were treated to a Father-Son-Son day as Bud flew his solo routine, one of his son flew the F16 demo (he was on exchange with the USAF) and the other flew with the Snowbirds. I guess airshow is in their blood. D >From: "Walter Lannon" >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar >Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:33:20 -0700 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" > >Jim; > >You were watching Bud Granley and son Ross. >Bud is retired from UAL (B747), ex RCAF from the Sabre days and an air show >pilot extrodinaire for many years. >Ross and brother Chris are ex Canadian Air Force CF18 pilots and both did >the tour with the Snowbirds. > >Walt >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Subject: Yak-List: Back from All RedStar > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > Troops, > > FINALLY back from MER. > > Barry and his troops did a top notch job again this year. > > > > I watched a father/son team in a Yak 18T and 55 do rolling scissors >around > > each other at 200'. It was really impressive!!!! The old 18T did some > > real > > impressive moves for a cabin job and the whole routine was fantastic. > > > > Craig Medford did a BEAUTIFUL routine in the CJ-6. Mind you this is a > > 285 > > hp HS-6 with modified pistons rings, but Craig just set the power and >uses > > the > > elegance of the CJ to do the rest. > > > > Sly, Buck, and myself were the formation judges this year. Four teams > > competed. Green Flight (the AZ boys in CJ-6s) won it by just 21 >points. > > Having > > Sly and Buck to back me up and share the heat against the slings and > > arrows of > > the contestants was really appreciated and I was surprised how close we > > were > > on our scoring. > > > > I wasn't able to watch the Bomb dropping contest, BUT as a ground >safety > > guy > > during a test flight I can tell you that rubber chickens don't have >much > > of > > a trajectory. > > > > Gave a bunch of flight checks and I loss count of the number of >training > > rides. THANKS Postal and Buck! > > > > Spent all day trying to get out of SFO and finally was able to get a > > flight > > direct the NEXT day. So much for the joys of pass riding. > > > > Today I catch up on sleep, pick up my new boat motor, and start getting > > ready for the Fort Pierce show this week-end. > > > > Plus will need to re-access my income cash flow since I just lost some >45% > > (I think) of my UAL pension. Gentlemen and ladies who ply the airways >as > > airline pilots, there ani't no such thing as a "contract" worth a s**t. > > > > And before I really get to upset and vent my frustrations on those who > > don't > > deserve it, I'll sign off for now. > > > > NICE JOB BERRY! > > > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:49 PM PST US From: "Jim Selby" Subject: Yak-List: Hal Morley --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" I'm trying to find Hal Morley, If someone can send me his e-mail address, it would be much appreciated. Thanks Jim Selby Jr ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:58 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re:Re: Experimental Markings --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" You know you can always sick the EAA's WOA on the them. Sometimes when one of these guys starts acting like he's the "new sheriff in town", it takes the horsepower of our organization to take them down a peg or two. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Yak-List: Re:Re: Experimental Markings > --> Yak-List message posted by: "cpayne@joimail.com" > > But of course I have all the latest CFR text from faa.org. > It's not in the words, but in the reading of the words; > wherein the FSDO Apparachiks use the Infinite Wisdom of > their vast experience. > > So what constitutes an "authentic" paint scheme from an era > at least 30 years ago?? I see no requirement for the paint > scheme to be original to that Type of warbird. The T-6 guys > have it made as schemes changed constantly from the Services > to Guard units using the type. How about certified (not > experimental) civilian Navions made up not as L-17 Navions > but as Navy/Air Force fighters. I've never heard of a beef > with them, but...what about that Commie Crap that falls from > the sky in pieces upon the unsuspecting heads of Our Good > People? Surely the people must be protected! > > One more round for our Public Servants barkeep! > > Craig Payne > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:53 PM PST US From: KingCJ6@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hal Morley --> Yak-List message posted by: KingCJ6@aol.com In a message dated 5/17/2005 7:47:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alikatz@mbay.net writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Selby" I'm trying to find Hal Morley, If someone can send me his e-mail address, it would be much appreciated. Thanks Jim Selby Jr This should help: Yakjock@msn.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:40 PM PST US From: JOE Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hal Morley --> Yak-List message posted by: JOE JIM yakjock@email.msn.com Joe Howse > > > I'm trying to find Hal Morley, If someone can send me his e-mail address, > it would be much appreciated. Thanks > > Jim Selby Jr > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:31 PM PST US From: "Paul Nicholson" Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info --> Yak-List message posted by: "Paul Nicholson" Yes please Jorgen Regards Paul Nicholson ZU-IAK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorgen Nielsen" Subject: RE: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen" > > > I had a number of requests for pics of my 196 / 296 setup in the Yak. > When I built it I took pics of the building process, and installation, > so have now edited these and added text to explain rubber mounting etc. > > > If anyone wants a copy let me know & I will mail direct - file size is > 600k. > > Out of interest, Mk1 of the mount was rigidly mounted, when running off > battery power the unit would switch itself off due to high vibration > levels in Yak. (I guess the battery contacts were opening). So off it > came and I then added some grommets etc. to mechanically isolate the > bracket to airframe and the bracket to mount (probably over-engineered > it, but hey, so is the Yak!) > > Also, bracket is mounted using existing holes and screws as I did not > want to drill. > > And Jim, I would like some pics of yours. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Shafer >> Sent: 17 May 2005 21:18 PM >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: loooking for : PDA GPS info >> >> >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jim Shafer" >> >> The mount I use does not require any constructing. Just 4 >> riv nuts in the >> air scoop on the glare shield and three commercially >> available pieces of >> mounting equipment. Anyone interested in photos, email me >> directly and I >> will send pictures. Yak list strips attachments and I don't >> want to load up >> the list with these photos. >> >> Jim Shafer >> 360EB >> CJ6-P >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.